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  • Ronald Whittemore - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Hey Mark,

    The times of Noah were horrendous as in Genesis 6:11. As you said sons of God are used 5 times in OT Genesis 6 Job 1 Job 2 and Job 38 all referring to angels. It is used 6 times in the NT John 1 Romans 8 Philippians 2 and 1 John 3, my understanding is referring to those who have accepted and have faith in Jesus.

    There are many opinions on fallen angels, devils/demons. There are evil beings on this earth today, we see in Daniel battles that may be going on that we are not aware of, Daniel 10. There is a set of angels that were different and for what they did, God locked them in chains of darkness until the judgment 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6, and others can still roam the earth.

    In verses 6:4 daughters of men having children, they became mighty men of old. The Hebrew word for old is m-'-w-lm, meaning defined as long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, ancient, or world. It was translated everlasting 110 times, forever 136 times.

    Giants we see before and after the flood as said in Genesis 6:4 "and also after that". The word giant is Nephilim and also the Rephaim (or Rephaites, the terrible ones), You can find them throughout the OT and their descriptions are not just a tall big man, Numbers 13:33 Amos 2:9 and more.

    When God created everything the seed is after his kind, a dog will have a dog, a bear will have a bear, and so on, a man and woman may have a tall big man but it will not be a giant. Angels can on earth have a body that can eat, and drink, Genesis 18, fiscally wrestle Genesis 32 and we are told how we should entertain strangers because they may be an angel, Hebrews 13.

    Just a few things you may look at. If an angel left his first estate and came down to earth could he mate? Was that why God locked them in darkness and other bad angels and Satan can still roam the earth? After the flood, there were only 8 where did these giants come from?

    Interesting subject,

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Chris - in Reply
    Hi Suze. You are correct, as you noted that Isaiah chapter 14 is written against the King of Babylon (just as Ezekiel chapter 28 pertains to the Prince/King of Tyre/Tyrus).

    In both accounts, you will note that those monarchs were elevated to an incredibly high position, both in terms of their kingdoms (Babylonia & Phoenicia), their wealth & power, & also in their own eyes. Yet, we see some strange descriptions of them which simply cannot be applied to an earthly ruler (e.g. falling from Heaven, I will ascend into Heaven, exalt my throne above the stars of God. And to Tyre: having been in Eden, anointed cherub, perfect in all thy ways till iniquity was found in thee).

    Some see that none other than earthly rulers are spoken of here, but others see the reason for their pride, belief in their invincibility, & eventual downfall of these kings as pertaining to the spirit that controlled them. It is as when Jesus spoke against Peter ( Matthew 16:23); Jesus was certainly looking at Peter, but heard Satan's voice coming through again (as in Matthew 4:3-10), a spirit pressing Peter to blurt out those words that were in opposition to Jesus' Words that the Cross was truly God's Plan. When one utters words that are contrary to God's Word, believing them to be true, those words are Satan-generated, for the enemy will always seek to distort the Truth (remember Eden?).

    Even Jesus spoke about Satan's fall from Heaven in John 10:18, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven", though unsure whether Jesus specifically quoted the Isaiah passage. Yet, there was that occasion when Satan & his angels were cast out from Heaven ( Revelation 12:9; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6). Therefore, I too understand that those OT passages have references to both those rulers, but also to the satanic spirit that moved in them, hence the very specific references to Satan being cast out as well. And yet, Satan will once again manifest himself mightily in the person of Anti-Christ ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4).

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  • Adam - in Reply on Romans 8
    2 Corinthians 5:10 - "For we must ALL appear..."

    ALL. All means all.

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    In the LAST TIME. It doesn't salvation is given on Earth.

    1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    HOPE to the END. It doesn't say NOW. Grace that IS TO BE brought. It doesn't say NOW.

    Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

    CHOOSE. It's a daily decision. Freewill is not stripped away.

    Matthew 7:21-23

    "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

    Not all believers are saved and not all who claim to be followers.

    Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

    SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN. I read this and know what it says.

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    Believing alone isn't enough according to this verse.

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    This is a warning, it is clear, and I understand it. I don't want to test God.

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Jude 1:21 "KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."

    These verses are the Words of God.

    I read, pray for understanding, and know in my heart what these verses say and mean. If another believer says "No, that's not the truth, believe ME instead" then that is a huge red flag of something that doesn't come from God. God bless.
  • Marke on Luke 8:14
    Luke 8 - The Parable of the Sower

    There are three kinds of hearers who never get saved and only one kind of hearer who gets saved.

    Luke 8

    11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

    12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

    13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

    14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.

    15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

    Way side hearers don't give God a second thought.

    Those whose seed is received on the rock have no root, which is the Lord Jesus ( Revelation 22:16

    I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.)

    Those who receive the seed among thorns have no fruit ( Jude 1:12

    These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;)

    Good ground hearers get saved. They have the root and offspring of David. They have the fruit of the Spirit. And they have the Lord Jesus who will keep them from falling away ( Jude 1:24

    Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,)
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Genesis 2
    I believe you're looking for Revelation 12, I gave additional Scripture in your question on same subject.

    I wanted to add: Jude 1, entire chapter & compare Revelation 12 to Luke 2:1-7, Matthew 2:7-23, John 19:30, 1Corinthians 15:20, John 21:14, Luke 22:69, Mark 16:19, Acts 5:31,

    Hopefully these are helpful also
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Genesis 2
    Hopefully these verses are helpful : Luke 10:17-20, Isaiah 14:12-32, Daniel 10, through Daniel 11:1, Daniel 12, Jude 1:9, 2Corinthian 11:13-14, Revelation 12, compare books of Luke,

    1Chronicles 21:27, Hebrews 1:1-14, please read whole chapter,
  • Jesse - in Reply
    Doug,

    From what I gather, you believe you can walk away from Jesus Christ. Let me ask you this: will Jesus ever walk away from you? You referenced Jude 1:21, but that verse does not have anything to do with God forcing us or not forcing us to remain in Him. I am going to assume that you are saved? If so, once God saved you, are you now in control of your salvation (keeping yourself saved), or are you being kept by God's power?



    You say that "He will not force us to remain in Him," and my response to that would be that God does not have to force any believer to remain in Him. A true believer remains in Him, not because they are forced to, but because they have God's Spirit in them, and it is His Spirit that causes them to remain (MENO) permanently in Him.

    Now, I belong to Christ. I have been born of His Spirit. However, I still have choice and I still have free will. What does that mean? Does that mean I can be disobedient to Christ because I have free choice? Well, I can put it to the test and exercise my free choice or free will, but if I truly belong to Christ, He's going to deal with me. And if I truly belong to Christ and one day I decide I don't want to be saved anymore and that I'm going to just denounce the whole thing and walk away, then I was never saved to begin with.

    For me personally, I have to differentiate between my flesh and the Spirit of Christ that lives in me. My flesh will never submit to the things of the Lord and will always want to get away. But the Spirit of Christ who lives in me, He is the one who energizes me and causes me to never "walk away." A person who professes to belong to Christ but later on walks away is a person who never belonged to Christ to begin with.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Terry.

    Jude 1:24. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
  • Adam - in Reply
    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    Jude 1:21 "KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."

    James 5:19-20 "BRETHREN, if any of YOU do ERR FROM THE TRUTH, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    1 Corinthians 9:26-27 "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so FIGHT I, not as one that beateth the air: But I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and BRING IT INTO SUBJECTION: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."

    Hebrews 10:29

    "Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?"

    1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race"
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 12
    David,

    Here is what I can share on Jude 1:9:

    Yet Michael the archangel, when he was contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, he did not bring against him a railing accusation, but basically said, The Lord rebuke you.

    So Michael the archangel, according to a writing called the Assumption of Moses, an apocryphal book, which means the authority of these books cannot be proven one way or another.

    But in the early first century A.D., it was used as an historical document, as the Jews believed some of the things mentioned in the document were historically true.

    And what Jude is doing is he is quoting from the Assumption of Moses that tells us that Michael the archangel was in charge of the burial of the body of Moses, because Satan wanted to take the dead body of Moses and mock it and mistreat it.

    So Michael the archangel was sent out. But he didn't fight with Satan. He says the Lord rebuke you. He didn't rebuke Satan because he had a respect for glory and authority. He knew he did not have the authority. He knew the Lord did. That's a good lesson for us as well.

    So they spoke evil of glories, or angels. But even Michael the archangel didn't do that with Satan. He said the Lord will take care of you!
  • David on Revelation 12
    With out taking out of contents explain jude 1:9 yet michael the archangle when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of moses.
  • Ronald Whittemore - in Reply
    Hey Debbie B.

    There may be several opinions on this, but does the bible tell us where He was? Jesus said He would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth, Matthew 12:40. And He said He would be killed, and after three days rise again, Mark 8:31. One theory starts with 1 Peter 3:18-22. Looking at the context of the chapter it is about doing good and refraining from evil and it is good to suffer for righteousness to have a clean conscience.

    If we look at these verses Jesus was put to death in the flesh but quickened by the Spirit. Jesus was raised from the dead in a glorified body and the same Spirit of Him that raised Jesus will raise those who have Christ in them Romans 8:10-11.

    Jesus went and preached to spirits in prison who were disobedient in the days of Noah. As far as I know nowhere in scripture is man or saints called spirits, or the dead be in prison, I may be wrong. Why would Jesus only be preaching to those before the flood? The only ones I know that scripture says are in prison in chains of darkness are the angels who left their first estate 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6. In the verses, there is nothing to indicate a time frame in which Jesus did this.

    My understanding is Jesus was in the grave/tomb until His Father raised Him on the day of the Feast of First Fruits on the first day of the week before the sun came up. There is more scripture like Ephesians 4:8-10 that you can study for your understanding, keep in context of the entire chapter with an open mind and led by the Holy Spirit.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer
    Brothern.

    Beware of doctrines demons.

    There are some that supposedly have a deeper understanding of the word of God that has crept in the church.

    Strategically they converse with you, " Not to convert you but to use the platform you provide them to confuse the simple.

    They stand in the way of salvation for those who seek Christ through his word.

    ENCOURAGEMENT.

    However God is aware of Satan's tares in the congregation, And he that the Lord calls WILL come to him!!

    Jude 1:4. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Galatians 1:8-9. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    2 John 1:10-11. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

    For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

    Encouragement!!

    The gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church.

    Matthew 16:18.

    God bless.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Genesis 4:1, Genesis 4:16,23,24,

    Genesis 4:25,26, Genesis 5:1-3, Genesis 5, Genesis 6:1-13, Genesis 7, & 8, Genesis 9:8-9, Hebrews 11:1-7, 1John 3:12,

    Romans 5:14, 1Corinthians 15:45, Deuteronomy 32:8, Matthew 3:21-38, Romans 5:14, 1Corinthians 15:22,45,

    Jude 1,
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Bill.

    It means apostasia a "defection from the truth." ( Apostasy).

    There is many opostates in our midst today. I wouldn't call them members of the Church, they're not called out. These can be called tares as seen in Mathew 13:24-30. You see Jude mention of certain men crept in our midst in

    Jude 1:3-4.

    It was going on in Pauls day. Acts 20:29-31.

    Jesus warned his disciples of this in Matthew 7:15.

    So Apostasy isn't something new to the Church.

    But 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3. has a future climax.

    vs.2) That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

    vs.3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    Jesus asks in Luke "Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find the faith on the earth?" The answer is No.

    We have 2 departures going on here,

    1) The organization has departed from the faith.

    2) The true Church has departed from the Earth.

    There can be no total Apostasy until the Church is removed.

    This notes what must happen before the great tribulation.

    God bless.
  • Tina - in Reply on Romans 7
    Jude 1:20

    How do you pray in the Holy Spirit?
  • T. Levis - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 4
    1Corinthians 4, understanding 1st pray & read: James 1:5,

    1Corinthians 4:1 "Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of CHRIST, and the stewards of the mysteries of GOD." references: Mark 4:11, in context Mark 4:1-34, Romans 11:25, Romans 16:25-27, Ephesians 3, Revelation 10:7, some Old Testament references: Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, Zechariah 13:6, Leviticus 16:17, John 19,



    Romans 14:12 : reference for several

    1Corinthians 4:2, references: Titus 1:7,

    1Corinthians 4:3-4, ref: Romans 8:33, Isaiah 50:8, Jude 1:24-25, Romans 14:13, Psalms 98:9,

    1Corinthians 4:5, ref: Matthew 25:31-46, Hebrews 10:30, 2Thessalonians 2,

    1Corinthians 4:6,7,8, ref: 1Corinthians 12, Deuteronomy 8:18, Psalms 75:6-7, John 19:11,

    1Corinthians 4:9-14, Hebrews 11,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Brother Carl - in Reply on Romans 7
    The outward man is the flesh:

    For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

    Rom 2:28 (KJV)

    But the inward man is the Spirit:

    But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    Rom 2:29 (KJV)

    We perfect holiness in the fear of God (Afraid to Sin) by cleansing ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit:

    Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

    2 Cor 7:1 (KJV)

    This cleansing is done with washing by the word of God:

    That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

    Eph 5:26 (KJV)

    Man is spirit, soul and body which must be blameless when JESUS CHRIST comes back:

    And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    1 Ths 5:23 (KJV)

    The Spirit of man is the Candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly - Proverbs 20:27

    The washing of the regeneration is with the renewing of the Holy Ghost - Titus 3:5

    Building up your most holy faith praying in the holy ghost - Jude 1:20

    This way the inward man is renewed day by day.

    For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

    2 Cor 4:16 (KJV)

    JESUS CHRIST bless you.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    I've heard it explained it was a perversion thing. Note they were adults, Genesis 6:18, Genesis 7:7,13, Genesis 8:16,18,

    Genesis 9:22, honestly ask yourself would you go tell others? Or cover? Who showed their father honor? Genesis 9:23

    Noah, "knew what his younger son had done to him." Genesis 9:24, it wasn't that he just saw.

    There's additional information, to help readers understand, Genesis 9:18, Genesis 9:22, Genesis 9:25, Genesis 10:15, note Canaan, 1st recorded rape of a girl Genesis 33:18, Genesis 34:1-2, & Sodom & Gomorrah, Genesis 10:19, Genesis 13:13, Genesis 18:20, Genesis 18, Gen. 19,

    Isaiah 3:9, Jeremiah 23:14, Ezekiel 16:49, Jude 1:7, it appears to point to a root of evil started with that person.

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Here are scripture links about Jesus CHRIST ministry, the Bible however indicates HIS open ministry longer than a year on earth.

    Luke 3:23, people take that scripture & add holidays & other events to draw a timeline.

    It doesn't actually say that Jesus CHRIST ministry is/was limited to just those years of HIS open ministry because it's everlasting. Luke 1, John 1:1-5, Luke 2:42-50, John 8:58, 1Corinthians 15:47-58, Ephesians 3:9-11, Titus 3:7, John 3:15, Hebrews 5:9, Jude 1:21, Romans 6:23, Romans 5:21, John 17:3, 2Timothy 2:10, 2Corinthians 5:1, 1John 5:11, John 10:28, 1John 5:20,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • RichFairhurst on Hebrews 11
    (Originally posted under wrong verse, should be Hebrews 11:5-7)

    Enoch

    Genesis 5:21-22

    Hebrews 11:5-6

    Jude 1:14-15

    Noah

    Genesis 6:1 through Genesis 9:29

    Matthew 24:37-39

    Luke 17:26-30

    Hebrews 11:7

    1 Peter 3:19-20

    2 Peter 2:5

    2 Peter 3:3-7

    Whether or not a person acknowledges it, Enoch and Noah are fathers to every man, woman and child living today. However, without saving faith they will only be fathers according to the flesh to our generation. That genetic relationship will be undeniably proven before God, but it will not only profit us nothing, it will actually make anyone in our generation more guilty than the people in theirs if they mock or ignore the testimony concerning them in these last days without repenting and believing in Jesus Christ as they did. We need to carefully consider and draw both encouragement and warning from their examples of faith if we want to share any of the benefits of the heritage they have left us.

    Jesus Christ is the one who will catch us up to be with Him, like He did Enoch, if we are confirmed by the Holy Spirit to be those who please Him and His Father. He is also the unexpected Bridegroom who will close the wedding feast door that lets in the prepared wise virgins but shuts out the unprepared foolish virgins where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth, like He closed the door of the Ark that Noah prepared behind him and his household, shutting out those who were unprepared outside.

    Although no one should count on it, if in His grace the Father continues to patiently wait beyond our short lives to send Christ with His holy angels for the final harvest, we still must hold to the fear of the LORD we see in these two ancestors of ours and uphold their testimony so that we may be partakers with them in the pleasure the Father has in their faith and the faith of all those mentioned in this chapter of Hebrews. That is one of the ways we will be able to add our own testimony of faith to theirs.
  • T Levis - in Reply on 2 Timothy 4
    As opposed to what? Destroying the evil? Genesis 6:5-6,11,12, He did that in Noah's day: Genesis 6:7-9, Genesis chapters 6-9,

    Genesis 8:21-22, Gen. 9:9-17, therefore HE made a covenant of mercy. Yet HE also makes promises of giving an "account"

    Genesis 9:5-6, Psalms 37, Isaiah 61:3, Romans 12:9, Hebrews 10:30, Jude 1:7,

    It's like this Genesis: GOD gave dominion to man over the Earth, including sea. Gen. 1:28, It's a ' stewardship ' that all men will give an account for. Matthew 25:31-46, yet the Earth still belongs to GOD : 1Corinthains 10:26,

    GOD gave Moses a set of "Best Laws" That if people obeyed, would cut down on suffering. Instead many have rebelliously rejected, mocked & ignored & refusal to enforce. Whose then to blame for suffering in consequence? Proverbs 3:27,

    I think it amazing that GOD intervenes on our behalf so many times. Exodus 3:9, Psalms 12:5,

    & ultimately gave us Salvation John 3:16-18, Ecclesiastes 5:8,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Charles Robert Northup - in Reply
    Followers of Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch: The perverse mixing of idol worship, sacrificing to idols of food and perverse sex acts combined after He was one of the 7 who were of Stephen appointed to wait tables to serve the widows in the church he is mentioned in Acts 6:5 Paul wrote that some who were of us went out from among us.

    Smith's Bible Dictionary

    Nicolaitans:

    (followers of Nicolas) a sect mentioned in Revelation 2:6; 2:15 whose deeds were strongly condemned. They may have been identical with those who held the doctrine of Balaam. They seem to have held that it was lawful to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit fornication, in opposition to the decree of the Church rendered in Acts 15:20; 15:29. The teachers of the Church branded them with a name which expressed their true character. The men who did and taught such things were followers of Balaam ( 2 Peter 2:15; Jude 1:11). They, like the false prophet of Pethor, united brave words with evil deeds. In a time of persecution, when the eating or not eating of things sacrificed to idols was more than ever a crucial test of faithfulness, they persuaded men more than ever that was a thing indifferent ( Revelation 2:13-14). This was bad enough, but there was a yet worse evil. Mingling themselves in the orgies of idolatrous feasts, they brought the impurities of those feasts into the meetings of the Christian Church. And all this was done, it must be remembered not simply as an indulgence of appetite: but as a part of a system, supported by a "doctrine," accompanied by the boast of a prophetic illumination ( 2 Peter 2:1). It confirms the view which has been taken of their character to find that stress is laid in the first instance on the "deeds" of the Nicolaitans. To hate those deeds is a sign of life in a Church that otherwise is weak and faithless ( Revelation 2:6). To tolerate them is well nigh to forfeit the glory of having been faithful under persecution ( Revelation 2:14-15).
  • Chris - in Reply
    John 3:16; John 5:24; John 6:37-40,47; John 10:27-29; Romans 6:23; Romans 8:38,39; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 2:8; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 13:5; 1 John 5:11-13; Jude 1:24 - are a few examples, all promising the true child of God that his/her salvation is secure forever.

    Yet 1 John 3:7-10 reveals the two-faced 'Christian': having every appearance of serving God, but has sin dominating his life; living carelessly & not carefully.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Deuteronomy 28, note: Deuteronomy 28:58, Deuteronomy 28:15, Deuteronomy 28:28, Matthew 15:22-28, Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 5:2-13, Mark 7:27-30, Luke 4:33-43, Luke 8:26-40, Luke 9:35-50, Acts 10:38, James 4:7, 1John 3:8, Jude 1:9,

    Deuteronomy 28:1-14, Exodus 23:25, Matthew 4:23,

    Luke 9:55-56,

    Jeremiah 32:27, Jeremiah 32:17, Luke 1:37,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - in Reply on 3 John 1
    Genesis 4, Genesis 5, Hebrews 11:5, Jude 1:14, KJV
  • Jessyca
    In response to "John J"

    There are many sins! Idolatry, Fornication, Witchcraft, Pride, etc... All of these sins fall under three areas LUST OF THE FLESH,LUST OF THE EYES, AND THE PRIDE OF LIFE | 1 John 2:16|! They are not all classified as stealing! But what they are classified as are sins against a Holy and Righteous God AND transgression of the LAW | 1 John 3:4|!

    With that said ALL the sins in God's Word minus one are forgivable...The only unforgivable sin in God's eyes is denying Christ Jesus! | Matthew 10:33| Jude 1:4 | Proverbs 30| Which is blasphemy of the Holy Ghost! | Matthew 12:31| This is saying that Christ Jesus did not die on the cross and send us the Comforter! The Holy Ghost is our Comforter!

    We must be born again for our sins to be washed away | John 3:7 |

    I noticed one of the comments state there are "7 deadly sins" God says ALL sin causes DEATH! | Romans 5:12| It says there in Romans that death passed upon ALL men! This is our physical death...But there is DEATH beyond our physical DEATH and that is an eternity in HELL the SECOND death this is spoken of in Revelation | Revelation 20:14| This second death is for those that have not been SAVED by the Grace of God through FAITH in Christ Jesus...causing BLASPHEMY of the HOLY GHOST!
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Here are some scripture seemingly relevant. Proverbs 27:6, Proverbs 27:17, Proverbs 27:10, Proverbs 27:9, * Jude 1, hopefully these are helpful
  • Ian
    Jessie, re your comment on Paul praying in the spirit and praying with his mind.

    Read from 1Cor 14:2, "The one speaking in a tongue, does NOT speak to men but TO GOD, for none hears (in the sense of understands) but in the SPIRIT he speaks mysteries. So Paul, when he speaks in a tongue to God, given by the Holy Spirit, he speaks mysteries. (mysteries are things that are not known - understood)

    v4- "the one speaking in a tongue (unlearned) builds himself up. This is where Jude 1:20 comes in. He builds himself up in his spirit, where his most holy faith is situated.

    He goes on to explain that in a meeting of believers it is important for all to understand what is spoken; so, if an unknown is spoken publicly in a gathering their needs to be an interpretation given. But if there is no one who has such a gift then the one show speaks in an unknown tongue should do so quietly without interrupting anyone's concerntration to understand the lingua franca.

    Paul did not rebuke them for speaking in unlearned langauges given by the Holy Spirit, but only because they were disorderly in their expression of that gift; they were excited without consdiering others present.

    so he says - "Seek to build each OTHER up".

    Then in v 14 he says For if I pray in a tongue (given by the Holy Spirit; he is speaking about gifts given by the Holy Spirit not languages learned by men), my spirit prays, but my mind (my 'nous' - understanding) is unfruitful.

    And finally in v 28 - "And if there is NO interpreter (one who has been given the gift of interpretating a tongue from the Holy Spirit) let him be silent (inaudible) in the assembly, and let him speak to himself (build his own faith up) and to God."

    Paul is talking about gifts given by the Holy Spirit.

    The ability to speak in 'tongues' is for private edification - unless there is an interpretor present - in which case all can benefit from the interpretation given.

    peace in Jesus


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