The Book of Jasher is an extra biblical book that is not included in the Bible. It is quoted in both Joshua and 2 Samuel. It mostly covers the first five books of the Bible and ends with Joshua's death. the original and authentic Book of Jasher has been lost since ancient times. The Book of Jasher inprint to day was created in the 1700's and is most likely fraudulent. It includes statements that go against what the Bible says.
Yes. Earth is flat and not moving, NASA are liars and work for Satan. The Firmament is above us and above it is water. There is no space at all, we are not circling the sun but the sun is circling us ( Joshua 10:12). There are many many scriptures that show what the Earth really is. Even the Hebrew word for sky, "Shamayim", mean "Water is there".
Psalm 19 along with Romans 1 demonstrate that all of the universe testifies to the whole world of the presence of God as well as to His order to the design of the universe. We can; therefore make a transition from the One who created the laws of nature to the written law and statutes ordained by God. (The word statute apparently means a specific enactment of a law).
Some degree of apologetics here is in order to explain the most common objection to the statement of the sun and its apparent movements here on earth. (see also Job 9:7). Often this is dismissed as a superstitious viewpoint of the earth being the center of the universe with the sun revolving around it. When taking into account the movement of our galaxy; for example we see how the sun moves through it's own "circuit" as it were through our local system of stars and how in fact our galaxy moves in its cluster of surrounding galaxies through the universe. So; therefore there is a certain pattern that it has in regard to the bigger picture as the earth has. We also need to remember the verse in Joshua when the sun stopped for a day and the moon ( Joshua 10:13) as well a when the sundial returned back to where it was ( 2 Kings 20:1-11). There are historical accounts as well of supernatural events such as the sun and moon turning dark during the crucifixion in different parts of the world.
Notwithstanding; of course it is clearly not a "bridegroom" as verse 5 indicates; so we need to take symbolic language if literal cannot b taken as should be the rule in all scripture!
Note how law; fear; statutes and judgment are all things which we should think upon. This is the sentiment of verses 9 to 11. We are not given an indication what are "presumtous" sins (v. 13) or "secret faults." (v. 12). We do realize that in meditating on the Lord we are focused on Him and this readiness keeps us from slipping (see meditating day and night verse Joshua 1:8).
Do you believe what the Bible says about there being lost/missing Scripture?
The book of Nathan the prophet, the book of Gad the seer. ( 1 Chronicles 29:29)
The epistle from Laodicea ( Colossians 4:16)
And of the things which Jesus did, John said if they should be written every one, I suppose even the world could not contain the books that should be written. ( John 21:25)
Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the LORD, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon, ( Numbers 21:14)
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. ( Joshua 10:13)
And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are they not written in the book of the acts of Solomon? ( 1 Kings 11:41)
Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat? ( 2 Chronicles 9:29)
Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually. ( 2 Chronicles 12:15)
If there is lost/missing Scripture, than there must be more knowledge of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on this planet.
I believe the Bible and the Book of Mormon because the doctrines therein are the same, nothing waving.
Otherwise, I would not believe the Book of Mormon.
The Bible is my main source for truth.
I there are other writings claiming to be of the God of Israel, I will certainly take that into consideration and compare the doctrines to what the Bible says and if there is a contradiction, I will know the doctrines are not of the God of Israel.
Certainly, the Bible talks about lost/missing Scripture.
The book of Nathan the prophet, the book of Gad the seer. ( 1 Chronicles 29:29)
The epistle from Laodicea ( Colossians 4:16)
And of the things which Jesus did, John said if they should be written every one, I suppose even the world could not contain the books that should be written. ( John 21:25)
Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the LORD, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon, ( Numbers 21:14)
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. ( Joshua 10:13)
And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are they not written in the book of the acts of Solomon? ( 1 Kings 11:41)
Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat? ( 2 Chronicles 9:29)
Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually. ( 2 Chronicles 12:15)
The book of Jasher was mentioned 2X as in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18
The rest in my opinion are all pagan book. The KJV Bible is enough information for us to go to heaven. Read many comments here and many will give you their own opinion and interpretations. It is up to individual to do the study 2 Timothy 2:15-16..
Hello, I couldn't find Jaszer but Jasher is mentioned in 2Samuel 1:18, & Joshua 10:13 as a book recording those events also.
If you're referring to the book you were reading from when you asked the question, (the website sited) Prayer of Azariah, = Azariah seems to be Daniel 1:6,7,11,19, Daniel 2:17, Daniel 3:12-30, reminder names changed in Daniel 1:6,7,
Also appears to be one returning to help rebuild the wall: Nehemiah 3:24, Nehemiah 7:7, Nehemiah 8:7, also seemingly helping people understand GOD's laws,
Hello Dora. We do see the Book of Jasher mentioned a couple of times in the Bible ( 2 Samuel 1:18 & Joshua 10:13), but as far as I can gather, the original writings have long been lost. Now, there have been several productions/translations made, & especially a false one in the 1700s AD, but all these have been highly suspect.
Reasons given: since the original manuscripts/copies aren't available, those who included certain books in the Bible were hesitant to include a book that only found proof in spurious writings. From the productions that are available, certain errors were found, being incompatible with the rest of Scripture (just as the OT & NT apocryphal writings were treated): chronological errors (i.e. matters of dates of writing or events) & suspect events (e.g. snow falling pre-Flood).
Some new NT writers also took quotes from extra-biblical sources (e.g. Paul quoted from a Cretian prophet (Epimenidus) in Titus 1:9-14; & also in Acts 17:28 (a Grecian poet); Colossians 4:16 (epistle from Laodicea - not found); 2 Timothy 3:8 and Jude 9 (from the Assumption of Moses - not included); and many more. So we see that references were made to certain 'other' books (whether true of false in content), but done so to strengthen the argument & to also gain a 'listening ear' from those opposed to the Gospel. I've often quoted from the Qur'an when speaking to Muslims, not to give support to their book, but to help gain their 'ear' to the declaration of Christ who is perfectly understood only in the Bible. Some may disagree with this, but it is an acceptable method (as seen in the Bible) when sharing across religions & cross culture.
So, the Book of Jasher was not intentionally hidden from us, but it was deemed unworthy to be included in the Bible, since the original production was not available, & the only ones available were spurious. But if deemed necessary, one could quote from it (& others) prudently to assist & strengthen the discussion.
Some one has said; that earth is spinning around the sun and around the moon. Around the sun; Yes!, but around the moon not. The moon spins around the earth. As any other moons spins around the others planets that has one or many moons, all the planets has an orbit around the sun; elliptical, each one of it. Did you know when God stop the sun in gillgall, and the moon in; Joshua 10:12 "Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon." - Joshua 10:13 "And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.") SO, the sun stop his movement, and also the moon stop her spinning around the earth. (Not exactly means the sun stop spinning in his rotation. But the sun never ever has had a translation movement, but it is earth that is translating around the sun in eliptical run around the sun; in that day when they saw the sun stop; was because the earth stopped her translation run but keep spinning in rotation in her axis of North and South polar axis.
There are writings outside the Bible, these two are mentioned in the Bible, the book of Enoch, Jude 1:14, the book of Jasher, Joshua 10:112 Samuel 1:18 but are they the original books, and there are the writings of Josephus.
Scripture does tell us Satan entered Judas, John 13:27, we see in Matthew 12:26 Jesus said, if Satan cast out Satan, suggests he could possess someone, but Mark writes the same conversation, he writes Jesus is speaking in parables, Mark 3:23.
In Daniel 8 not covering Media and Persia, Alexander the Great, and the four it is Antiochus went plundering to place himself above all including God, Isaiah 14:13 is a good description of his intent. He almost destroyed Jerusalem and the worship of God by Israel and placed the abomination in the temple, but he failed. Host of heaven in Paganism are the sun, moon, stars, and planets that is worshiped, but this is not about angels.
Demons and angels are not the same but if you are looking for scripture it is not in the Bible we have. Fallen angels are not in scripture just a definition that has been given the bad ones. Some angels left their first estate and are locked in chains of darkness (bottomless pit), 2 Peter 2:4Jude 1:6. They have a king, his name in Hebrew Abaddon, Greek Apollyon Revelation 9:1, the hell you speak of, in my understanding comes from Platonism and not scripture.
Revelation 12 that many places in the past but it is yet in the future, the battle is in heaven, so these angels still have access to heaven. When Satan and these angels are cast down to earth will be permanent because it says no more place is found in heaven, Revelation 12:8-12, my understanding this starts the 3.5 years of tribulation when Satan gives his seat, power, and authority to the beast.
There are evil beings on this earth 2 Corinthians 11:13-15Ephesians 6:12, but how they got here is not in scripture.
Just a little information, may it not add to your questions.
When I was a young believer, I would read Hebrews 7:3, and I believed this was speaking about Christ Himself. Learning that Melchisedec meant king of righteousness caused me to believe it even more. Today, I don't believe that way anymore.
Some believe that Melchisedec was a "Christophany," an appearance of Christ Himself in the Old Testament, because his name means king of righteousness. The only problem I see with that is that in Joshua 10:1, there's another king called Adonidedec. Adoni is lord, and Zedec is righteousness, lord of righteousness.
As for Melchisedec, it says he was the king of Salem. Salem was the city of the Jebusites. And guess what city that was later on? Jerusalem. Salem is from Shalom which means peace. So since he was the king of Salem, and king of peace.
And then the characteristics we see in Hebrews 7:3 don't help the matter much. But if I look closely at how it is translated, it doesn't say that he didn't have a father. The Greek text indicates that there is no record of a father, and no record of a mother, or descent. Obviously he came from somewhere. He was a man. But there was no record.
Then it says "having neither beginning of days, nor end of life." It sort of makes it sound like he is eternal. But that's not the case. There's just no record of his birth or his death, or who his parents were.
There's a parallel between Melchisedec and Christ. It says that he was made like to the Son of God. It doesn't say he was the Son of God. That's important. He abides a priest continually. We know that Jesus had a birth. We know who His mother is and who His Father is. But that's not the parallel. The parallel is that Jesus Christ never had a beginning, and doesn't have an end.
That's why the Lord's priesthood is according to Melchisedec, because Melchisedec is parallel to the eternal existence of Christ. If you want a reference for Salem being Jerusalem, Psalm 76:1 would give you that information. Hope this helps!
Hi Johnnie. The Book of Jasher is not in the biblical canon. The history of it is that there used to be a book of a similar name (Book of Jasher) as quoted in Joshua 10:12,13 and 2 Samuel 1:18-27, but that book as been lost into antiquity. However, the lament that David expressed for the loss of Saul & Jonathan & his teaching the children of Judah in the use of the bow, was also recorded in this Book of Jasher.
But when we refer to the Book of Jasher today, it appears that it is actually an 18th Century forgery, alleging to be a translation of that original lost book, therefore there is no value in pursuing such a search, or if some translation is found, it is to be highly suspected.
Just to write a kind reply. Many people today believe and have proof of the earth being "flat"(simple term). Proving the curve of the earth to not be real, or exist, as would be on a "ball". The only proof nasa or anybody else has is word of mouth and pictures/TV. As I am not here to make anybody believe anything. We are all on our own mission as you know.
So to the Bible. As Gary stated about the "firmament". Saying to study the word maybe that it actually means a "solid expanse". A couple other things in the Bible on this in Genesis. How the great lights that were created, sun, moon, stars, were set "in" the firmament. Genesis 1:14-17. How Joshua made the sun, and moon, stand still. Joshua 10:12-13. Some people say God really made the earth stop rotating and spinning because they didn't know we were on a "ball" in space back then. Basically saying the Bible is wrong here. Or maybe how the Bible says in so many places the earth is "fixed and immovable". Is the Bible wrong here too as nasa claims we are spinning at around 1000mph and rotating around the sun over 66k mph? I believe the Bible.
Did you know they say the tilt of the earth is 23.4 degrees? Minus a right angle of 90 degrees it is 66.6 degrees.
As I'll end with Isaiah claiming God to sit on the circle of the earth. A circle is not a "ball" or "sphere". Isaiah also knew this as well. In Isaiah 22:18 he states "toss thee like a ball". Which is a different Hebrew word than "circle".
Anyway, again, I don't think us followers of Christ should argue over such things. Sometimes the truth is not easy to accept after being deceived for all our lives.
Jesus Christ our Lord is the way and we should all focus on Him. Staying strong in the Word. Amen.
Christopher Chetland senior on Joshua 10:12 - 3 years ago
There is a very simple explanation in the understanding of the sun and the moon "standing still" for a day. If the north and south poles were reversed it would create a long day. A simple way to see this phenomenon is to set a concrete mixer in motion and watch intently as it is turned over as in emptying it. It gives the impression of standing still and is a perfect example of the long day of Joshua
Joshua I know how you feel. I've been trying to get back to where I once was for over 10 years. But I have faith that I know God is faithful. The enemy has attacked my prayer life. Why? Because he knows that I'm a threat to him. You just step out in faith whether you FEEL Him or not. Just do it. Try going on a fast for 21 days. Fasting is helpful..
Im having the hardest time of my life I am a confessed sinner drunkard and womanizer. I want to give my life back to God but I don't know how. I have moved further and further away from him to the point of I dont know how to connect...As a kid I thought I would be a worrior for God but I have lost my ways and need help please reach back to me with some simple steaks to take to shake addiction lust and guilt.
Jack, the account in Josh 10:5 speaks of Gentile nations which inhabited that area. See also Josh 15:63, which shows the inhabitants of Jerusalem as the Jebusites. Israel was still being led by Joshua & were encamped at Gilgal (as part of their journeyings) when the call came to him from Gibeon requesting Joshua's help. So Israel only had Judges (after Joshua) who governed & led Israel till the time of the kings. And King Saul, not God's chosen but the one whom the people desired, was Israel's first king ( 1 Sam 11:15).
It is said that the King of Jerusalem was one of the five kings that encamped Gibeon. Joshua chapter 10 verse 5 said, "Therefore the five kings of the Amorites, the king of Jerusalem, the king of Hebron, the king of Jarmuth, the king of Lachish, the king of Eglon, gathered themselves together, and went up, they and all their hosts, and encamped before Gibeon, and made war against it." There was no king of Israel then right?
There is no sin for women to wear trousers. It is nowhere in the bible that states that women can't wear trousers. Read the bible for yourself, don't listen to everything people tell you no matter if they are clergy or not. some want to keep you in bondage.
"host" Joshua 10:5 (trained soldiers) (armed servants) "5 Kings and all their host, encamped before Gibeon."
"host of heaven" Deuteronomy 4:19 (are god's created angels), Deuteronomy 17:3.
This tells me that if God is with you nothing can defeat you.One has to experience God presence always which will enable you to overcome your fears. God was with Joshua that why they overcame their enemies.
Hi Jane, If it is lawful for a woman to wear a dress/skirt/short pants, long pants and her husband prefers she wear a particular style she would not be sinning if she did so. A woman should submit to her husband in all things unless it goes against scripture. I hope this helps. Proverbs 1:7
Proverbs 9:10 Luke 12:5
Why is this dressing issue on women alone, it bothers and confuses me. I totally abhor women who dress indecently but what is wrong with trousers that covers a women with a good top? The trouser are female trousers that men can't wear yet some preachers in Africa pass judgement on these women. Is it a sin to wear female trouser? Are women whose husband prefer them in trouser sinning?
Betty Betts, like you said this was in the Old Testament. God never gave man a Saturday sabbath in the New Testament that Jesus Christ life, death, and resurrection brought us. Mk. 2:27 says, The sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath ". Christians legally honor Jesus Christ resurrection on Sunday because he is our Lord and Saviour who perfectly filled the entire law. Bless God.
Joshua never relied on the potential of being God's servant. He used all the instructions God gave to him to combat God' enemies. We are likely to compromise on things that God hates. Cause we need to accomodate everyone into our circles. With Joshua if God said women must dress properly with all respect, he just honoured God, if God says I allow no woman to preach or to teach with Joshua it was an Amen, that's why God honoured his prayer to stop the Sun.
I see that God was giving man a chance to win over his foe, after during that man still have not learn to trust God for things he need. Everything man want has to be fast and in a hurry. Wait on The Lord and he will fight your battles.
The Book of Jasher is an extra biblical book that is not included in the Bible. It is quoted in both Joshua and 2 Samuel. It mostly covers the first five books of the Bible and ends with Joshua's death. the original and authentic Book of Jasher has been lost since ancient times. The Book of Jasher inprint to day was created in the 1700's and is most likely fraudulent. It includes statements that go against what the Bible says.
Some degree of apologetics here is in order to explain the most common objection to the statement of the sun and its apparent movements here on earth. (see also Job 9:7). Often this is dismissed as a superstitious viewpoint of the earth being the center of the universe with the sun revolving around it. When taking into account the movement of our galaxy; for example we see how the sun moves through it's own "circuit" as it were through our local system of stars and how in fact our galaxy moves in its cluster of surrounding galaxies through the universe. So; therefore there is a certain pattern that it has in regard to the bigger picture as the earth has. We also need to remember the verse in Joshua when the sun stopped for a day and the moon ( Joshua 10:13) as well a when the sundial returned back to where it was ( 2 Kings 20:1-11). There are historical accounts as well of supernatural events such as the sun and moon turning dark during the crucifixion in different parts of the world.
Notwithstanding; of course it is clearly not a "bridegroom" as verse 5 indicates; so we need to take symbolic language if literal cannot b taken as should be the rule in all scripture!
Note how law; fear; statutes and judgment are all things which we should think upon. This is the sentiment of verses 9 to 11. We are not given an indication what are "presumtous" sins (v. 13) or "secret faults." (v. 12). We do realize that in meditating on the Lord we are focused on Him and this readiness keeps us from slipping (see meditating day and night verse Joshua 1:8).
Do you believe what the Bible says about there being lost/missing Scripture?
The book of Nathan the prophet, the book of Gad the seer. ( 1 Chronicles 29:29)
The epistle from Laodicea ( Colossians 4:16)
And of the things which Jesus did, John said if they should be written every one, I suppose even the world could not contain the books that should be written. ( John 21:25)
Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the LORD, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon, ( Numbers 21:14)
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. ( Joshua 10:13)
And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are they not written in the book of the acts of Solomon? ( 1 Kings 11:41)
Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat? ( 2 Chronicles 9:29)
Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually. ( 2 Chronicles 12:15)
If there is lost/missing Scripture, than there must be more knowledge of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on this planet.
I believe the Bible and the Book of Mormon because the doctrines therein are the same, nothing waving.
Otherwise, I would not believe the Book of Mormon.
The Bible is my main source for truth.
I there are other writings claiming to be of the God of Israel, I will certainly take that into consideration and compare the doctrines to what the Bible says and if there is a contradiction, I will know the doctrines are not of the God of Israel.
I can find no contradictions.
The book of Nathan the prophet, the book of Gad the seer. ( 1 Chronicles 29:29)
The epistle from Laodicea ( Colossians 4:16)
And of the things which Jesus did, John said if they should be written every one, I suppose even the world could not contain the books that should be written. ( John 21:25)
Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the LORD, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon, ( Numbers 21:14)
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. ( Joshua 10:13)
And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are they not written in the book of the acts of Solomon? ( 1 Kings 11:41)
Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat? ( 2 Chronicles 9:29)
Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually. ( 2 Chronicles 12:15)
The rest in my opinion are all pagan book. The KJV Bible is enough information for us to go to heaven. Read many comments here and many will give you their own opinion and interpretations. It is up to individual to do the study 2 Timothy 2:15-16..
Hello, I couldn't find Jaszer but Jasher is mentioned in 2Samuel 1:18, & Joshua 10:13 as a book recording those events also.
If you're referring to the book you were reading from when you asked the question, (the website sited) Prayer of Azariah, = Azariah seems to be Daniel 1:6,7,11,19, Daniel 2:17, Daniel 3:12-30, reminder names changed in Daniel 1:6,7,
Also appears to be one returning to help rebuild the wall: Nehemiah 3:24, Nehemiah 7:7, Nehemiah 8:7, also seemingly helping people understand GOD's laws,
Hopefully these are helpful
Reasons given: since the original manuscripts/copies aren't available, those who included certain books in the Bible were hesitant to include a book that only found proof in spurious writings. From the productions that are available, certain errors were found, being incompatible with the rest of Scripture (just as the OT & NT apocryphal writings were treated): chronological errors (i.e. matters of dates of writing or events) & suspect events (e.g. snow falling pre-Flood).
Some new NT writers also took quotes from extra-biblical sources (e.g. Paul quoted from a Cretian prophet (Epimenidus) in Titus 1:9-14; & also in Acts 17:28 (a Grecian poet); Colossians 4:16 (epistle from Laodicea - not found); 2 Timothy 3:8 and Jude 9 (from the Assumption of Moses - not included); and many more. So we see that references were made to certain 'other' books (whether true of false in content), but done so to strengthen the argument & to also gain a 'listening ear' from those opposed to the Gospel. I've often quoted from the Qur'an when speaking to Muslims, not to give support to their book, but to help gain their 'ear' to the declaration of Christ who is perfectly understood only in the Bible. Some may disagree with this, but it is an acceptable method (as seen in the Bible) when sharing across religions & cross culture.
So, the Book of Jasher was not intentionally hidden from us, but it was deemed unworthy to be included in the Bible, since the original production was not available, & the only ones available were spurious. But if deemed necessary, one could quote from it (& others) prudently to assist & strengthen the discussion.
There are writings outside the Bible, these two are mentioned in the Bible, the book of Enoch, Jude 1:14, the book of Jasher, Joshua 10:11 2 Samuel 1:18 but are they the original books, and there are the writings of Josephus.
Scripture does tell us Satan entered Judas, John 13:27, we see in Matthew 12:26 Jesus said, if Satan cast out Satan, suggests he could possess someone, but Mark writes the same conversation, he writes Jesus is speaking in parables, Mark 3:23.
In Daniel 8 not covering Media and Persia, Alexander the Great, and the four it is Antiochus went plundering to place himself above all including God, Isaiah 14:13 is a good description of his intent. He almost destroyed Jerusalem and the worship of God by Israel and placed the abomination in the temple, but he failed. Host of heaven in Paganism are the sun, moon, stars, and planets that is worshiped, but this is not about angels.
Demons and angels are not the same but if you are looking for scripture it is not in the Bible we have. Fallen angels are not in scripture just a definition that has been given the bad ones. Some angels left their first estate and are locked in chains of darkness (bottomless pit), 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6. They have a king, his name in Hebrew Abaddon, Greek Apollyon Revelation 9:1, the hell you speak of, in my understanding comes from Platonism and not scripture.
Revelation 12 that many places in the past but it is yet in the future, the battle is in heaven, so these angels still have access to heaven. When Satan and these angels are cast down to earth will be permanent because it says no more place is found in heaven, Revelation 12:8-12, my understanding this starts the 3.5 years of tribulation when Satan gives his seat, power, and authority to the beast.
There are evil beings on this earth 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 Ephesians 6:12, but how they got here is not in scripture.
Just a little information, may it not add to your questions.
God bless,
RLW
When I was a young believer, I would read Hebrews 7:3, and I believed this was speaking about Christ Himself. Learning that Melchisedec meant king of righteousness caused me to believe it even more. Today, I don't believe that way anymore.
Some believe that Melchisedec was a "Christophany," an appearance of Christ Himself in the Old Testament, because his name means king of righteousness. The only problem I see with that is that in Joshua 10:1, there's another king called Adonidedec. Adoni is lord, and Zedec is righteousness, lord of righteousness.
As for Melchisedec, it says he was the king of Salem. Salem was the city of the Jebusites. And guess what city that was later on? Jerusalem. Salem is from Shalom which means peace. So since he was the king of Salem, and king of peace.
And then the characteristics we see in Hebrews 7:3 don't help the matter much. But if I look closely at how it is translated, it doesn't say that he didn't have a father. The Greek text indicates that there is no record of a father, and no record of a mother, or descent. Obviously he came from somewhere. He was a man. But there was no record.
Then it says "having neither beginning of days, nor end of life." It sort of makes it sound like he is eternal. But that's not the case. There's just no record of his birth or his death, or who his parents were.
There's a parallel between Melchisedec and Christ. It says that he was made like to the Son of God. It doesn't say he was the Son of God. That's important. He abides a priest continually. We know that Jesus had a birth. We know who His mother is and who His Father is. But that's not the parallel. The parallel is that Jesus Christ never had a beginning, and doesn't have an end.
That's why the Lord's priesthood is according to Melchisedec, because Melchisedec is parallel to the eternal existence of Christ. If you want a reference for Salem being Jerusalem, Psalm 76:1 would give you that information. Hope this helps!
But when we refer to the Book of Jasher today, it appears that it is actually an 18th Century forgery, alleging to be a translation of that original lost book, therefore there is no value in pursuing such a search, or if some translation is found, it is to be highly suspected.
Just to write a kind reply. Many people today believe and have proof of the earth being "flat"(simple term). Proving the curve of the earth to not be real, or exist, as would be on a "ball". The only proof nasa or anybody else has is word of mouth and pictures/TV. As I am not here to make anybody believe anything. We are all on our own mission as you know.
So to the Bible. As Gary stated about the "firmament". Saying to study the word maybe that it actually means a "solid expanse". A couple other things in the Bible on this in Genesis. How the great lights that were created, sun, moon, stars, were set "in" the firmament. Genesis 1:14-17. How Joshua made the sun, and moon, stand still. Joshua 10:12-13. Some people say God really made the earth stop rotating and spinning because they didn't know we were on a "ball" in space back then. Basically saying the Bible is wrong here. Or maybe how the Bible says in so many places the earth is "fixed and immovable". Is the Bible wrong here too as nasa claims we are spinning at around 1000mph and rotating around the sun over 66k mph? I believe the Bible.
Did you know they say the tilt of the earth is 23.4 degrees? Minus a right angle of 90 degrees it is 66.6 degrees.
As I'll end with Isaiah claiming God to sit on the circle of the earth. A circle is not a "ball" or "sphere". Isaiah also knew this as well. In Isaiah 22:18 he states "toss thee like a ball". Which is a different Hebrew word than "circle".
Anyway, again, I don't think us followers of Christ should argue over such things. Sometimes the truth is not easy to accept after being deceived for all our lives.
Jesus Christ our Lord is the way and we should all focus on Him. Staying strong in the Word. Amen.
God Bless brother.
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher?
So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
They were fighting a battle and needed daylight to win the day. How awesome is God?!
"host of heaven" Deuteronomy 4:19 (are god's created angels), Deuteronomy 17:3.
Proverbs 1:7
Proverbs 9:10
Luke 12:5