Hello David. In Job chapter 6, Job is responding to what Eliphaz was speaking to him in the previous couple of chapters. Eliphaz was essentially urging Job to simply bear up (be patient) & submit to God, the God Who would bless him if he would repent of sins, for which he was suffering ( Job 5:17: "Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty").
Now in chapter 6, Job is responding to Eliphaz that the impatience with which he is being charged & the agony that he is bearing, be weighed against the great calamities he has experienced ( Job 6:1-4).
Then in v5, Job asks a couple of questions: 'does the ass complain when it has food and likewise the ox?' The expected answer is, 'No, they are satisfied when there's enough to eat'. Likewise, Job says that he does not complain without good reason, just as those animals. Rather, he has lost his taste for life: just as anyone would refrain from eating saltless/inspid food as also when eating just the white of an egg which has no taste of its own, so to his sufferings (which were undeserved) have now become his detestable portion in life. If it was that easy for Job to overcome his sufferings as simply adding salt to food or flavor to an egg, he would certainly do it. But in vv 8 & 9, Job longs for relief from God, or if none comes, that God would shorten his life so that his sufferings would finally end.
Wes gave a wise answer on Christmas. Exodus 23:8, Deuteronomy 16:19, Ecclesiastes 7:7, may The HOLY Spirit teach us. John 14:26
I love to celebrate Christmas, I really enjoy the lights, the focus on our Savior. The generosity in the season. Christmas is a time of year, people remember more their fellow man, needs & wants of others. Christmas time reminds us of the joys of giving & putting smiles on others faces, teaching by love & kindnesses. Surprising a person with anonymous unexpected gifts, giving hope to people in desperation, food, clothing, volunteering, etc. warms their hearts, body & soul & sometimes gives them hope for a better ' tomorrow '. Christmas is the time of year people are more willing to receive from a Christian.....
We as Believers have an open door at Christmas unlike any other time of the year, to show the World who Jesus is, who the Church is.
When we remember those most "forgotten by others" showing them, they are not forgotten by GOD, it's amazing how even those around them are affected.
This Christmas season we really have a moment to help comfort, our nations with love, giving hope through the WORD, to poor in spirit & helping heal wounds. There is much we can give this year, for those in need. I pray GOD lead us even now, to start the giving season early. Romans 6:23, 2Corinthians 1:4, Proverbs 15:23,
There are many chapters & verses about these events. I recommend reading Revelation in it's entirety. You can do phrase & individual word searches on this site.
Hopefully these are helpful in your study & searching
Richard, so true about how we are to handle Scripture.
I was just thinking last night about seeking God's wisdom in understanding Scripture as a whole as well as individual verses, chapters, and books. Those who lack wisdom from God can easily take a verse and apply it incorrectly in their life in ways that are detrimental to themselves or others. Some may read where Job thinks he is better off dead and take that to mean that they, too are better off dead. Or where it is written in the law that children who dishonor their parent is to be stoned. These are two extreme examples. But I chose those to show how a person can take a snippet of Scripture and use it badly. This approach is how cults get started and people are led astray into heresy, apostasy or into such groups because they lack wisdom and a full knowledge of Scripture to balance out their thinking.
Thank you for your analysis. It is helpful. Job is a very interesting book, I have read it several times, but have not studied it in depth yet.
In this continuing monologue (with occasional responses by Job) from his first "friend" Eliphaz; here is a general principle of long life and prosperity mentioned as a benefit of being corrected or chastised by God. (v. 17). Although not directed to Job; and certainly not meant to compliment his righteousness in any way; there is nonetheless scriptural links with these admonitions and other verses in scripture; the chief being that He "chastises those He loves" ( Heb. 12:6). It was a sort of prophetic hope coming to pass with Job's eventual renewal to his original state; in fact even more than at first. It is unlikely that Job found any comfort in this; of course.
In all this; we have two points of general note. First; value can be found whenever God's word is spoken; even if it is with contention; as Paul stated ( Philippians 1:15-17).
The second point is that scripture needs to be evaluated in this book to see what is the truth. We need to understand that all scripture may be for instruction ( 2 Tim 3:16); but surely what Satan quoted is used against Christ and since he is a liar among his other vices; the intention of the words may be for other purposes. A lot of other things his friends were to badger him about were at best unnecessary; and as in the earlier chapter with a spirit speaking stuff; may be from the pit itself. And this book is faithful only in giving an accurate message of what was said; whether it is Gospel truth is only how well it ties in with other scriptures. Whatever his friends spoke may have had some scriptural basis; but there is no way of saying what may have come from other sources or legends. Much can be said for any truth in the Apocrypha; for example. Much has been borrowed from the Word of God but we need to discern what is instruction and what to avoid from what we do know as revealed truth. Only the parts of books such as Enoch actually in scripture can be trusted as well.
Jobs is a.man that Gods Children we should emulate.This man lost health, wealth, children, body afflicted, friends aggitated over his commitment and even his wife had issues with him and still he maintained his connection with God and sinned not. He did not even acknowledge the enemy in his suffering butkept focussing on God.
Please remember that the sons of God have come for the pulling down of this world's 'Strongholds', religion being the strongest of them all ( 2 Cor. 10:4; Luke 11:21-23).
When it comes to the Medical Profession, please know that the believers live by faith, as the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is their guide in all things. Remember how God took care of a host of 2m people for forty years. He fed them and provided them with water and other essentials. Even their shoes and garments didn't wear out. Also remember that out of the original group that crossed the Red Sea only Joshua & Caleb crossed the Jordan River. All the rest died in the wilderness, while only the new generation crossed the Jordan.
Rather than speaking from personal experience, we believe that the most effective way to be taught and to come to the understanding of 'The Chastening of the Lord' is by the Word of God itself
Job's relationship with the Almighty God and Father is there to encourage our hearts and mind in Christ Jesus. His trials inspires us to continue on in Christ our loving Saviour for the trials that we encounter though it makes us weak Job's experiences makes us strong.
I was surprised that upon all the evil that befell Job, he refused to recognize the existence of satan the devil. Devil was not mentioned by him all through the chapters of the Bible. It was God everywhere and even when his wife and friends itched to make him deviate from God, he did not agree. Job is worthy of emulation and a mentor to anyone that wants to believe in God.
Job 5 to me is one of the the great chapters encouraging holy living, promise of a long God fulfilled life. I have committed it to memory. The point made about sin is that it doesn 't originate from dirt but man that the Creator formed with the dirt. Adam was first spiritual in chapter one, but in chapter two when he got his soul body in chapter two when he became a living soul, he lost his spiritual connection with God- and couldn 't get it back until Christ the second Adam. Job said in 19:26 though worms destroy my flesh I shall see God and lived to a ripe old age to over 900 years. About the 3rd or fourth to live past nine hundred years.
Job 5 makes me understand and know that no matter what we go through as children of God, God will bring everything to a perfect finish for us. It 's all about trusting in him and not wavering.
I love verse 12 14, that every man who plans evil against us shall be disappointed, his businesses of causing pains and misery to the saints shall collapse, the tools he uses shall become blunt.He will be confused, darkness shall befall him and search like a blind man during the day...his day will be covered by a dark cloud of darkness and he will not be able to locate the whereabouts of the saints.I am prophecying somebody here.
Job trusted in God and his confidence and love for God gave him the strength to go on. He knew that no matter what, God still kept his promise because God is not man to lie.
job did not give up on God he were obiedient to GOD and he believed in GOD. EVEN IN THE JOB 1 HIS WIFE WANTED HIM TO NOT BELIEVED IN GOD. HE WOULD NOT DENY GOD. HE KEPT THE FAITH THROUGH IT ALL.
For me it is a reminder that God is always with us And even in times where He seems far or times of correction God is right there with us loving us and will never allow us to suffer more than we can handle Because God loves us even then
I think its a classic example of the fact that we generally pray to god when we are afflicated and want our troubles removed but we can forget to worship God and honor him in some situstions. For Job it was the the time when he was tested. For me it is in the time of prosperity that I forget to honor God when all is from him.
"In famine he shall redeem thee from death: and in war from the power of the sword."
Answer:
Acts 2:24 KJV
Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
Jesus Christ is God.
Now in chapter 6, Job is responding to Eliphaz that the impatience with which he is being charged & the agony that he is bearing, be weighed against the great calamities he has experienced ( Job 6:1-4).
Then in v5, Job asks a couple of questions: 'does the ass complain when it has food and likewise the ox?' The expected answer is, 'No, they are satisfied when there's enough to eat'. Likewise, Job says that he does not complain without good reason, just as those animals. Rather, he has lost his taste for life: just as anyone would refrain from eating saltless/inspid food as also when eating just the white of an egg which has no taste of its own, so to his sufferings (which were undeserved) have now become his detestable portion in life. If it was that easy for Job to overcome his sufferings as simply adding salt to food or flavor to an egg, he would certainly do it. But in vv 8 & 9, Job longs for relief from God, or if none comes, that God would shorten his life so that his sufferings would finally end.
I love to celebrate Christmas, I really enjoy the lights, the focus on our Savior. The generosity in the season. Christmas is a time of year, people remember more their fellow man, needs & wants of others. Christmas time reminds us of the joys of giving & putting smiles on others faces, teaching by love & kindnesses. Surprising a person with anonymous unexpected gifts, giving hope to people in desperation, food, clothing, volunteering, etc. warms their hearts, body & soul & sometimes gives them hope for a better ' tomorrow '. Christmas is the time of year people are more willing to receive from a Christian.....
We as Believers have an open door at Christmas unlike any other time of the year, to show the World who Jesus is, who the Church is.
When we remember those most "forgotten by others" showing them, they are not forgotten by GOD, it's amazing how even those around them are affected.
Deuteronomy 15:7, Job 5:16, Proverbs 19:4, Psalms 69:33, Proverbs 14:21, 2Corinthians 9:9, Psalms 68:10, Galatians 2:10, Romans 15:26, Psalms 40:17, Proverbs 22:2, Psalms 41:1, Luke 14:13, Psalms 74:21, Proverbs 29:7, Proverbs 28:27, Psalms 112:9, Psalms 82:3, Daniel 4:27, Proverbs 21:13, Proverbs 31:10,20, context Proverbs 31, Proverbs 19:17, Proverbs 19:7, Luke 4:18, Matthew 11:5, Mark 10:21,
Proverbs 19:6, Esther 9:22, James 1:27,
This Christmas season we really have a moment to help comfort, our nations with love, giving hope through the WORD, to poor in spirit & helping heal wounds. There is much we can give this year, for those in need. I pray GOD lead us even now, to start the giving season early. Romans 6:23, 2Corinthians 1:4, Proverbs 15:23,
Psalms 31:24, Ecclesiastes 3:1,
I hope you're not worried about the issues of the Earth being destroyed.
Job 5:10, Job 7:1, Job 9:2-15, Job 12:10, Job 34:12-15, Job 38,
Psalms 46, whole chapters 2Peter 3, Revelation 20,
Revelation 21,
There are many chapters & verses about these events. I recommend reading Revelation in it's entirety. You can do phrase & individual word searches on this site.
Hopefully these are helpful in your study & searching
I was just thinking last night about seeking God's wisdom in understanding Scripture as a whole as well as individual verses, chapters, and books. Those who lack wisdom from God can easily take a verse and apply it incorrectly in their life in ways that are detrimental to themselves or others. Some may read where Job thinks he is better off dead and take that to mean that they, too are better off dead. Or where it is written in the law that children who dishonor their parent is to be stoned. These are two extreme examples. But I chose those to show how a person can take a snippet of Scripture and use it badly. This approach is how cults get started and people are led astray into heresy, apostasy or into such groups because they lack wisdom and a full knowledge of Scripture to balance out their thinking.
Thank you for your analysis. It is helpful. Job is a very interesting book, I have read it several times, but have not studied it in depth yet.
In all this; we have two points of general note. First; value can be found whenever God's word is spoken; even if it is with contention; as Paul stated ( Philippians 1:15-17).
The second point is that scripture needs to be evaluated in this book to see what is the truth. We need to understand that all scripture may be for instruction ( 2 Tim 3:16); but surely what Satan quoted is used against Christ and since he is a liar among his other vices; the intention of the words may be for other purposes. A lot of other things his friends were to badger him about were at best unnecessary; and as in the earlier chapter with a spirit speaking stuff; may be from the pit itself. And this book is faithful only in giving an accurate message of what was said; whether it is Gospel truth is only how well it ties in with other scriptures. Whatever his friends spoke may have had some scriptural basis; but there is no way of saying what may have come from other sources or legends. Much can be said for any truth in the Apocrypha; for example. Much has been borrowed from the Word of God but we need to discern what is instruction and what to avoid from what we do know as revealed truth. Only the parts of books such as Enoch actually in scripture can be trusted as well.
does anybody know of a book that is a chapter by chapter, interpretation of the Book of Job
and [ I think??] was written by a guy named "O'Neal" ?? (not "Shaq")
Thank you
Victor J. Bravo
Please remember that the sons of God have come for the pulling down of this world's 'Strongholds', religion being the strongest of them all ( 2 Cor. 10:4; Luke 11:21-23).
When it comes to the Medical Profession, please know that the believers live by faith, as the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is their guide in all things. Remember how God took care of a host of 2m people for forty years. He fed them and provided them with water and other essentials. Even their shoes and garments didn't wear out. Also remember that out of the original group that crossed the Red Sea only Joshua & Caleb crossed the Jordan River. All the rest died in the wilderness, while only the new generation crossed the Jordan.
Rather than speaking from personal experience, we believe that the most effective way to be taught and to come to the understanding of 'The Chastening of the Lord' is by the Word of God itself
CHASTENING
Deut. 8:5
Job 5:17-19; 6:1-10; 23:10; 33:19
Psalms 6:1-10; 17:3; 30:1-12; 38:1-21; 94:12-14; 102:1-28; 116:1-19; 119:7,67,71
Proverbs 3:11
Isaiah 26:16
1 Cor. 11:32
Hebrews 12:5,6
James 1:12
1 Peter 1:7
Rev. 3:15-21
AFFLICTIONS
Psalms 34:19; 132:1
Isaiah 48:10
Acts 7:10; 20:23
2 Cor. 6:4
Col. 1:24
1 Thess 3:3
Hebrews 12:5-12
Rev. 3:18
SICKNESS AND HEALING
Exodus 15:26
Psalm 6:2
Isaiah 30:26
Jer. 30:17
Eze. 34:16
Hosea 6:1
Mal. 4:2
Matthew 10:8
Mark 2:17
Luke 5:31
James 5:15
1 Peter 2:24
Rev. 22:2
RELYING ON DOCTORS AND MEDICINE
2 Chr. 16:12,13
Job 13:4
Psalms 34:19; 108:12
Isaiah 30:1-3
Jer. 17:5-7,14
Hosea 5:13
Mark 5:25-29
Luke 8:43
MADE PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERING
Job 5:18; 23:10
Psalms 50:5; 119:67,71
Isaiah 48:10
Jer. 31:18
Hosea 5:15; 6:1
Romans 8:17
2 Cor. 4:17
Hebrews 2:10; 5:7-9; 12:10,11
1 Peter 4:1,12; 5:1,9,10
Rev. 3:19
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
In His Service.
Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada