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Job 41 KJV Bible discussions
 
  • Gigi - in Reply
    Dear Dennis;

    Scripture does say that Satan is the God of this world, however, Scripture also says that all other gods are false because God alone is the only true God. Therefore, Satan does not own the earth nor have dominion over it. The earth belongs to God alone ( Job 41:11; Ps. 50:10-12)

    God is ever sovereign over all creation. As the Sovereign Lord, He is the ultimate authority of all He has created, even Satan. God rules creation by His absolute power and wisdom. No other being can overrule Him nor out smart Him. Satan is allowed to be at work in the world for the times that God determined and for the eternal purposes of God.

    God's sovereignty allows us to have comfort and assurance in Him as Lord And King overall beings and things He has made.

    We know that evil will not triumph over God. We know that God's plans for those who love Him will be fulfilled in the best way.

    God is the ruler of history,directing it to His intended outcome. Nothing happens that surprises God or catches Him off guard.

    We should be so thankful and relieved knowing that God is in control of this world and the lives of all beings, including Satan. He is present In All of creation and in every situation to work out what is best according to His eternal perfect plan and redemptive purpose for creating all things. We can trust Him to be faithful to all of His promises. When God takes us to be His people He does all needed for our salvation. He fights our battles, blesses us, disciplines us, loves us, and stays with us.

    God's sovereign Lordship is deeply personal. It involves each and every creature and God is great enough to rule every and all wisely , lovingly, justly, benevolently, righteously, and immutably. We can trust Him wholly. We can rest in Him. We can cast ourselves upon His mercies. All of our worries and cares can be released to Him because He reigns supreme nigh and day, 24/7 everyday as long as we are in this life and for all eternity we will be safe and secure in Him.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Let's start with scripture.

    2 Esdras 6:47-52 your reference

    Genesis 1:20-22 * one translation of the Bible I recently read: instead of "whales" says "Monster/s" , Jerusalem Bible translation says"great serpents", NIV says "great creatures " , Jubilee Bible 2000 translation says "And GOD created the great dragons" several other translations say "great sea creatures". = (Huge water creatures.)

    My 1st thought is the " dinosaur" namely "Brachiosaurus" & "Brontosaurus" [quotes- for names today?]

    Job 40:15 , Job 40:15-24,

    Job 41:1-10 Leviathan

    Bel and the Dragon 1:23-28

    Genesis 5:24, Jude 1:14, Hebrews 11:5,

    Linage to CHRIST Luke 3:37

    Opinion : Is Enoch symbolism for Huge in The Faith?
  • Mishael on Darts and Plagues - in Reply on Revelation 6
    DARTS

    2 Samuel 18:14

    Then said Joab, I may not tarry thus with thee. And he took three darts in his hand, and thrust them through the heart of Absalom, while he was yet alive in the midst of the oak.

    2 Chronicles 32:5

    Also he strengthened himself, and built up all the wall that was broken, and raised it up to the towers, and another wall without, and repaired Millo in the city of David, and made darts and shields in abundance.

    Job 41:29

    Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

    Ephesians 6:16

    Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    DARTS

    2 Samuel 18:14

    Then said Joab, I may not tarry thus with thee. And he took three darts in his hand, and thrust them through the heart of Absalom, while he was yet alive in the midst of the oak.

    2 Chronicles 32:5

    Also he strengthened himself, and built up all the wall that was broken, and raised it up to the towers, and another wall without, and repaired Millo in the city of David, and made darts and shields in abundance.

    Job 41:29

    Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

    Ephesians 6:16

    Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    NOTE: the word Corona is not in the Bible. You can Google, but

    If you are referring to the Sun or the corona virus, there are 3 scriptures that DO name China and the Middle East Palestinian nations as places where plagues have come from:

    3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA & MIDEAST

    Revelation 9:14-18

    Matthew 24:14

    Isaiah 49:12

    China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, and Corona virus; which has killed before. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet.
  • LEON DAVIS on Genesis 1
    My brother Chris, thank you the astute observations. There is a difference between the fall of the adversary and the final casting out of heaven. The fall, which occurred following Genesis 1:1 and the aftermath of God's judgment, which is found in Genesis 1:2; included the following consequences. Although still allowed access to heaven, the adversary was stripped of all authority and glory; he had been the adorned, anointed cherub that covereth. However, the beauty of his form was transformed into that of a serpent and a dragon; also, he was demoted to the lowly position of tempter ( Gen. 3:1; Matt. 4:3). All movement was restricted by God's "hook in his hose" ( Job 41:2); and any use of power required permission because God put a "double bridle" on him ( Job 41:13-14). Also, he had to regularly report with the regular angels ( Job 1:6; 2:1). This leads to the reason why he was not immediately destroyed.

    Christ opened the spiritual matrix and became the firstfruits and prototype of all who inherit the kingdom of heaven. Similarly, God positioned the adversary as the one who opened the matrix, and created hell for him and the angels which are suggested in the plural pronoun "they" in mentioned in Ezekiel 28:16 and are mentioned in Jude 6 ( Matt. 25:41).

    The eternal fate of all humankind is either heaven or hell. Water represents people ( Rev. 17:15). Therefore, for the duration of man's chronological week upon the earth following the fall of Adam and Eve, God is using Christ to draw up the Jordan River, which represents those who will inherit the kingdom, into His mouth ( Job 40:23). Conversely, he uses the adversary as the serpent who eats dust ( Gen. 3:14; 1 Pet. 5:8), from which man is made ( Gen. 2:7), and carry them along with him into hell.

    These conditions surrounding the fall of the adversary were effective throughout the Old Testament. However, the final casting did not occur until the days of John the Baptist ( Matt. 11:12). See the following post.
  • Ron - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Thanks Richard

    Scientists base their data, like carbon dating, they set the point of calculation on the oldest thing they could verify the date of the object. Sunlight causes the formation of C-14 in the atmosphere, and radioactive decay takes it out, so the accuracy can be 1000's of years off. Nothing on this earth has been dated for millions of years. Also, they measure the amount of time it takes the light to travel from a star to get to the earth to date millions or billions of years. On day 4 when God placed the great lights the Sun and the moon and the stars it was instantaneous in 1 day.

    Scientists also say the earth was one landmass called Pangaea and over the earth's history of billions of years the mass divided due to the tectonic plates called continental drift. You may not agree but I believe this was done in the days of Peleg. In the Hebrew language, the name "Peleg" means dividing by a "small channel of water" and is also root associated with the meaning of an earthquake. With God, all is possible so I take this verse as literal.

    Genesis 10:25 (KJV)

    And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided;

    Richard, you are right, in Job 41 many commentators say it is a crocodile. If one would read Job 41 you will see this creature is not any creature that's here today. I also agree with you that things we have been taught have created blind spots (scotoma) and unless we clear our minds before we study we will not hear or see the truth, the preconceived ideas in our mind will block what we are reading. As Jesus said, "because they seeing see not" "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear". The number of days and evening and morning throughout the Bible means 24 hours. No part of evolution can be interpreted from scriptures.
  • Soft Answers - in Reply on Proverbs 15:1
    Proverbs 15:1

    A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

    Proverbs 25:15

    By long forbearing is a prince persuaded, and a soft tongue breaketh the bone.

    Job 41:3

    Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?

    This is the 2nd time showing this....
  • Searching the word SOFT - in Reply on Psalms 91:7
    Job 23:16

    For God maketh my heart soft, and the Almighty troubleth me:

    Job 41:3

    Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?

    Psalms 55:21

    The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.

    Psalms 65:10

    Thou waterest the ridges thereof abundantly: thou settlest the furrows thereof: thou makest it soft with showers: thou blessest the springing thereof.

    Proverbs 15:1

    A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

    Proverbs 25:15

    By long forbearing is a prince persuaded, and a soft tongue breaketh the bone.

    Isaiah 38:15

    What shall I say? he hath both spoken unto me, and himself hath done it: I shall go softly all my years in the bitterness of my soul.

    Matthew 11:8

    But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.

    Luke 7:25

    But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts.

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    I didn't find any soft headed people. I'm not sure what that means biblically either.

    What version of Bible are you using?
  • Irene123 on Job 41
    Ps.30:11- mourning into dancing; Job 41:22- Sorrow into joy; Jn.16:20 - but your sorrow shall be turned into joy, this verse is prophecy of salvation - Acts2:37-38; Jer.31:13. May these scriptures be a blessing to all of us this day.
  • Norm on Revelation 7
    Understanding there are many who carry the spirit of antichrist, including some who post on this site The Father revealed that man of sin, the son of perdition, well over a year ago. The LORD, in His Word, gives us this man's last name multiple times, geographical location, condition of surroundings in which he lives, his demeanor, appearance, the tone of his voice and more. The LORD tells us He will not conceal this man whose last name in Arabic is "the lion." Job 41:12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
  • To all of my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus: That man of sin, the son of perdition, has been revealed to us by the Holy Spirit of God. The same is Lucifer Isaiah 14:8 thru 15 and the Assyrian Isaiah 10:5 and Isaiah 14:25 . The same is the great dragon, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world Revelation 12:9 . The same is the lion Job 4:10, Job 38:39, Psalms 22:21, Psalms 91:13, Jeremiah 4:7, Jeremiah 25:38, Amos 3:8, Nahum 2:11, Nahum 2:12, 2 Timothy 4:17 and 1 Peter 5:8 . The same was involved in the 2005 Cedar Revolution in Lebanon Isaiah 14:8 . The same speaks very softly in his interviews see Job 41:3 yet the mighty of the world are terrified of him, and rightly so, to the point of urinating their pants Job 41:25 . The same was born in Damascus on 11 September 1965. His last name in Arabic means "the lion". Pray to our Father in heaven, in the name of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST, that we may be found worthy to escape this evil! May the Lord JESUS be glorified. Amen
  • Norm on 1 Peter 5
    Thank You LORD for sending us Your Spirit and opening our eyes: The devil is now here in flesh as the antichrist and as the lion. That devil is just getting started first by destroying DAMASCUS SYRIA which is the city and country he presides over. See Isaiah 17:1. That antichrist terrifies all the middle east and EVERY WORLD LEADER as documented in Job 41:25. May You rebuke him LORD according to Your will. O LORD deliver us from his terror while You pour out Your wrath. I pray that You forgive us of all our sins according to Your will and all for Your glory. Thank You JESUS! In Your name we pray. Amen
  • Robert on Job 41
    Scripture with scripture. Compare Job 41 with Rev.12 12. Satan is cast out through the great frozen sea, that looks like glass, that God 's throne sits upon.
  • Rev.12 is telling us what is happening during the Tribulation period. Satan is cast out Rev12 9. It can not be before the creation because Job 1 6 says that Satan presented himself before God. Job was certainly written after Genesis and Satan was still able to enter heaven. Rev 12 9 happens in the middle of the Trib. period. Job 41 is prophesy of this event. Also man is born in the FLESH mothers womb which means water in John3 5 its explained in John3 6. We are not saved by water. Water has nothing to do with a christians salvation,read acts 8 37 38. He was saved and then baptized. When we are saved we are saved immediately we do not have to wait till the future Acts 16 30 31 The jailer was saved right then. Here again we are filled with the Spirit when we are saved John 3 5.
  • PHILPATTERN on Ezekiel 39
    Ezekiel and the prophesy has been spoken it is done No one can add or take away what god will accomplish here for his namesake no one knows the day nor hour but the elect will know the times and seasons are now speaking of this generation We know that Ezekiel is responding to the word God spoke against russia to the north predomanantly in the latter days in the times that israel is back in the land Russia 12 march 2012 sold 7 bn worth of bonds Russia now taking positioning steps to secure oil and gas continuance their interests for the shipping corridors afforded by black sea where Russian naval fleets have refuelling ports and the established oil and gas pipelines that russia supplies Germany Russia Italy and Europe Russian interests in the Ukraine could it be a strategy to conveniently secure investment interest to a continued supply of S P OIL december 2011 israel Leviathan oil and gas field in the waters near crete job 41 1 psalms 74 14 Isaiah 27 1 What would sheba and dedan say What does God say
  • We automatically do not want to believe that these things are not true like the powers of darkness are not larger than life. We seem to forget that Leviathan is in Job 41 described as a huge sea monster as well as in other parts of the Bible. In Genesis 6 the angels mated with women and had giants and not all of them died. Those kids according to the Book of Enoch and the Neanderthal bones that have been found show that those kids were not normal. The Bible speaks of dragons over 16 times. Whether that was dinosaurs or something else we may never know. Apocrypha means hidden. These were hidden to be shown to a generation that would believe and when all these things would come back. Just DO NOT FALL TO THE GNOSTIC FOOLISHNESS! They were not put in the Bible because the knowledge of these books, though a good read, cannot save ones soul. Not because they are not true. I would be careful on what I say whether it is fake or not about these books. The old Rabbis that studied them believe they were real. If they are the true Word of God then they are Him Hebrews 10:7; John 1:1, 14 and we would be blaspheming if we said they were false Mark 3:28, 29. The Gnostic Books like Adam and Eve, Book of Judas, Mary Magdalene etc... the Rabbis did not believe were inspired by God. All scripture in the King James Version of the Holy Bible (along with the Book of Enoch) is inspired by God (2 Timothy3:16) who cannot lie Titus 1:2. God Bless in Jesus Name.


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