The old testament hope is the son of righteousness will rise with healing in his wings. Malachi 4:2.
The morning star always rises at the darkest time of the night.
It indicates that the sun will be coming up shortly.
Job 3:9. "Let the stars of the twilight thereof be dark; let it look for light, but have none; neither let it see the dawning of the day:
Here in Job 38:7 it indicates there's several morning stars.
"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"
Isaiah 14:12 indicates Satan is just one of the many.
I believe Jesus is the Morning star for the Saints, Letting us know there's Light ahead of these dark times.
2Peter 1:19 puts it this way;
"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
I see no reason to believe that Job ever divorced or remarried. I believe that Job remained married to his wife and they both had more children after God restored all that he lost ( Job 42:10-13).
We see in Job 42:11 that all his previous acquaintances came back to him. It does not mention his wife but I would have to think she would be included, or perhaps, she never left him?
Yes, Job was seeking relief from all of the hardship and heartaches that had come upon him so swiftly and terribly. He regrets being alive to experience these deep losses, griefs, and diseases. Can anyone blame him? What anguish he endured. What with the loss of children, health, friends, and his wife telling him to "drop dead" while cursing God. He must have felt so alone, forsaken, and that God's mercy ang grace were far removed from him. This is a picture of the true state of a person outside of God's providence, mercy and grace. This life would be so hellish and agonizing every minute.
But thankfully, God causes the sun to rise on the wicked and the just. His mercy and grace does cover the earth and should he withdraw it we would all be like Job in this place of God allowing him to taste life that is under the curse of sin. Without
God's benevolence, mercy and grace bestowed upon the wicked and the just, we all would receive in our lives and our bodies all the consequences of sin in this life as well as the next. But it is His kindness that leads us to repentance. His mercy that we seek and His grace that we taste and know that he is good.
Neil Job 1 Both he had respect for God and reveranced [some times translated fear] him never blaming God for his problems and in Job 3:25 like all of us on occasion the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me and that which I
Thank you GiGi. I agree with you that 'light', indeed anything that God gives us or whatever we put our hands to make or perform, if done with right motives & without association with anything suspect or evil, ought to be done with a clear conscience & as unto the Lord.
However, what I sometimes see is, if it's in the Bible (especially seen in the OT), then any mention of it in the NT must correlate, to give spiritual sense & understanding to it. So, if we see God's Light or the light on the candlestick in the Tabernacle, then it must have a spiritual connection. This clearly can work, but when we see 'light' as in Job 3:16, should we understand this to euphemistically speak of stillbirth, or some other 'deeper' meaning of an unbeliever not receiving the Light of God? I've just made up this last part to show the way some could look at the Word.
And so with a celebration using light, food & a show of happiness & thankfulness, if done without an evil foundation, can this be treated as wrong, since that light isn't pointing to Christ, since He is our Light? True, the Jew doesn't recognize Jesus as Messiah, but Chanukah, as I understand it, isn't meant to reference Him but to reference the past. So then, can a Christian join a Jew in that celebration of remembrance or should we cast aside anything that a Jew does as being evil, since Jesus isn't their Lord? I guess, I would not have a problem with it, even using the occasion in some type of simple witness, though some would clearly have a problem with it. Thanks again.
Also, just a note regarding the original 12 apostles writings/books, I believe it to be a total of 10, and they consist of the following:
Matthew,1 Peter, 2 Peter, Timothy, John, 1 John, 2 John, 3 John, and John again in Revelation. The Gospel of Mark is attributed to being the gospel of the Apostle Peter, as it has been said that Mark was Peter's interpreter.
We also have the books of James, and Jude, who were half brothers to Jesus.
So, lots of good collaboration regarding the gospel of Christ! But, you may know than I about these books.
Jesus hand-licked is apostles and Paul for the evangelization of the known world at that time. Certainly, if God wanted the gospel preached across these lands, He would have given them a both a consistent message to preach since people's eternal salvation was at stake. I don't think that God messed this up in any way. Each apostle and Paul had their own style and personality which God used in their ministries. I do wish we knew more about the other apostles, but their writings and teachings have not been accurately preserved and Acts is written primarily about Paul's ministry from Luke's perspective, (who accompanied Paul).
For me, I really do not to continue to query whether Paul taught the same gospel as the other apostles. To think so it to make God one who speaks untruth to those He send to preach the gospel. And I don't think that He did so.
Again, with respect, we do not really know what the 12 apostles taught as they spread out across the known world at that time. Very little is recorded. What we do know is that Jesus commissioned them to spread the gospel before He ascended and He said that the Holy Spirit would teach them all things and help them remember what He had told them. I think that we need to trust that Jesus and the Holy Spirit would teach the same thing concerning salvation, since they only will tell what is true.
But we can differ in our ideas on this and still be peaceable about it, as I believe we have been.
I agree, Paul is teaching the same gospel of Jesus Christ - as did the other Apostles.
In my opinion, Paul seems to have his own unique way of dealing with the subject matter, and in many ways I believe he sometimes confuses scripture in a manner the original Apostles did not. In other words, Paul creates controversy, where the other Apostles seem to agree and present the gospels in a much more clear and coherent manner. Paul can be disruptive, argumentative, and somewhat brash in his manner and his message. Paul is unlike Jesus, and the other Apostles. Maybe it's just Paul, or maybe he felt he needed to project this with the new Christians to get the message across.
Jesus handpicked the original 12 Apostles, and they spent 3+ years living with Christ as his disciples. I believe this closeness to Christ put them at a real advantage over Paul, as far as receiving instruction/teaching and loving direction from Jesus that Paul missed out on.
The original 12 Apostles literally ate,slept, and breathed God. Hard to beat that!
I do not believe that Paul's gospel of grace was different from the gospel that the other apostles taught, since both were given it by Jesus-Paul while in the desert for a few years following his conversion, and the apostles received it from Jesus between the resurrection and the ascension.
Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom, Peter got the revelation of who Jesus was, we are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Jesus Christ himself the Chief Cornerstone, Paul gospel had to be the same gospel that Peter preached, because Peter had the keys to the kingdom, Paul baptized in the name of Jesus Christ just like Peter baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, there's only one baptism that's in the name of Jesus, not the titles Father Son and Holy Ghost.
The old testament hope is the son of righteousness will rise with healing in his wings. Malachi 4:2.
The morning star always rises at the darkest time of the night.
It indicates that the sun will be coming up shortly.
Job 3:9. "Let the stars of the twilight thereof be dark; let it look for light, but have none; neither let it see the dawning of the day:
Here in Job 38:7 it indicates there's several morning stars.
"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"
Isaiah 14:12 indicates Satan is just one of the many.
I believe Jesus is the Morning star for the Saints, Letting us know there's Light ahead of these dark times.
2Peter 1:19 puts it this way;
"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
Hopefully someone can add .
God bless.
I see no reason to believe that Job ever divorced or remarried. I believe that Job remained married to his wife and they both had more children after God restored all that he lost ( Job 42:10-13).
We see in Job 42:11 that all his previous acquaintances came back to him. It does not mention his wife but I would have to think she would be included, or perhaps, she never left him?
But thankfully, God causes the sun to rise on the wicked and the just. His mercy and grace does cover the earth and should he withdraw it we would all be like Job in this place of God allowing him to taste life that is under the curse of sin. Without
God's benevolence, mercy and grace bestowed upon the wicked and the just, we all would receive in our lives and our bodies all the consequences of sin in this life as well as the next. But it is His kindness that leads us to repentance. His mercy that we seek and His grace that we taste and know that he is good.
Here we see Job wishes he was never born.
Job 3:12-19. Why did the knees prevent me? or why the breasts that I should suck?
Here's verse 14 which is in questioning. Let's take it with verse 13.
( For now should I have lain still and been quiet, I should have slept: then had I been at rest,
With kings and counsellors of the earth, which built desolate places for themselves;)
Job pictures death as annihilating, All sleep equally in the grave. Kings, counsellors and prisoners and servants. ect..
Or with princes that had gold, who filled their houses with silver:
Or as an hidden untimely birth I had not been; as infants which never saw light.
There the wicked cease from troubling; and there the weary be at rest.
THERE THE PRISONERS REST TOGETHER; THEY HEAR NOT THE VOICE OF THE OPPRESSOR.
THE SMALL AND GREAT ARE THERE; and the servant is free from his master.
Job 3:19-22. The small and great are there; and the servant is free from his master.
Wherefore is light given to him that is in misery, and life unto the bitter in soul;
Which long for death, but it cometh not; and dig for it more than for hid treasures;
Which rejoice exceedingly, and are glad, when they can find the grave?
Job cursed the day he was born but he never cursed God.
In detail
Just exactly what that verse is talking about?
in the category of the spiritual they believed the true God was the cause of all. Yet clearly we read in the beginning of Job that
satan caused all his calamity because of Job 3:25 his greatest fear hit him. Now I was taught that God was tempting and trying
Job but can't be because of James 1:13 GOD cannot be tempted neither temp he any man. Job never blamed God for his error.
Also remember in Exodus 20:4 Thou shall not make any graven image or likeness that included what was written so even when
it was the enemy working they put down Lord or god with small g. But remember in the gospels the theif or the adversary
cometh not but to steal kill and destroy, thats his operation not the true GODS.
to God and do what you will but spare HIS LIFE. Now in Job 3: 25 we read where job says that which he was afraid of has come
upon Him, God did not do any of Jobs sorrows in fact in the end God gave him back double of everything. Now the thing that Job
feared so great in Job 1:5 we read where job daily offered up prayers for his family because he believed they were sinning all
the time that is great fear. Job continually did this which opened the door, he believed that because of what his family was
doing that God was going to punish them. Its interesting how many times in scripture the first words of messengers from the
true God is fear not, even in the gospel many times Jesus Christ said fear not. When were born again in 2 Timothy 1:7 it
says that God has not given us the spirit of fear but power love and a sound mind. GOOD STUFF!
to God and do what you will but spare HIS LIFE. Now in Job 3: 25 we read where job says that which he was afraid of has come
upon Him, God did not do any of Jobs sorrows in fact in the end God gave him back double of everything. Now the thing that Job
feared so great in Job 1:5 we read where job daily offered up prayers for his family because he believed they were sinning all
the time that is great fear. Job continually did this which opened the door, he believed that because of what his family was
doing that God was going to punish them. Its interesting how many times in scripture the first words of messengers from the
true God is fear not, even in the gospel many times Jesus Christ said fear not. When were born again in 2 Timothy 1:7 it
says that God has not given us the spirit of fear but power love and a sound mind. GOOD STUFF!
was afraid of is come unto me. So both
However, what I sometimes see is, if it's in the Bible (especially seen in the OT), then any mention of it in the NT must correlate, to give spiritual sense & understanding to it. So, if we see God's Light or the light on the candlestick in the Tabernacle, then it must have a spiritual connection. This clearly can work, but when we see 'light' as in Job 3:16, should we understand this to euphemistically speak of stillbirth, or some other 'deeper' meaning of an unbeliever not receiving the Light of God? I've just made up this last part to show the way some could look at the Word.
And so with a celebration using light, food & a show of happiness & thankfulness, if done without an evil foundation, can this be treated as wrong, since that light isn't pointing to Christ, since He is our Light? True, the Jew doesn't recognize Jesus as Messiah, but Chanukah, as I understand it, isn't meant to reference Him but to reference the past. So then, can a Christian join a Jew in that celebration of remembrance or should we cast aside anything that a Jew does as being evil, since Jesus isn't their Lord? I guess, I would not have a problem with it, even using the occasion in some type of simple witness, though some would clearly have a problem with it. Thanks again.
Yes, thank yiou for the correction. 1 Timothy and 2 Timothy are attributed to Apostle Paul.
So my count now is back to 9 books attributed to be written, by original Apostles. (If my count is correct)
God Bless
that's what it says.
Glad you clarified.
Also, just a note regarding the original 12 apostles writings/books, I believe it to be a total of 10, and they consist of the following:
Matthew,1 Peter, 2 Peter, Timothy, John, 1 John, 2 John, 3 John, and John again in Revelation. The Gospel of Mark is attributed to being the gospel of the Apostle Peter, as it has been said that Mark was Peter's interpreter.
We also have the books of James, and Jude, who were half brothers to Jesus.
So, lots of good collaboration regarding the gospel of Christ! But, you may know than I about these books.
God Bless
Jesus hand-licked is apostles and Paul for the evangelization of the known world at that time. Certainly, if God wanted the gospel preached across these lands, He would have given them a both a consistent message to preach since people's eternal salvation was at stake. I don't think that God messed this up in any way. Each apostle and Paul had their own style and personality which God used in their ministries. I do wish we knew more about the other apostles, but their writings and teachings have not been accurately preserved and Acts is written primarily about Paul's ministry from Luke's perspective, (who accompanied Paul).
For me, I really do not to continue to query whether Paul taught the same gospel as the other apostles. To think so it to make God one who speaks untruth to those He send to preach the gospel. And I don't think that He did so.
Again, with respect, we do not really know what the 12 apostles taught as they spread out across the known world at that time. Very little is recorded. What we do know is that Jesus commissioned them to spread the gospel before He ascended and He said that the Holy Spirit would teach them all things and help them remember what He had told them. I think that we need to trust that Jesus and the Holy Spirit would teach the same thing concerning salvation, since they only will tell what is true.
But we can differ in our ideas on this and still be peaceable about it, as I believe we have been.
I agree, Paul is teaching the same gospel of Jesus Christ - as did the other Apostles.
In my opinion, Paul seems to have his own unique way of dealing with the subject matter, and in many ways I believe he sometimes confuses scripture in a manner the original Apostles did not. In other words, Paul creates controversy, where the other Apostles seem to agree and present the gospels in a much more clear and coherent manner. Paul can be disruptive, argumentative, and somewhat brash in his manner and his message. Paul is unlike Jesus, and the other Apostles. Maybe it's just Paul, or maybe he felt he needed to project this with the new Christians to get the message across.
Jesus handpicked the original 12 Apostles, and they spent 3+ years living with Christ as his disciples. I believe this closeness to Christ put them at a real advantage over Paul, as far as receiving instruction/teaching and loving direction from Jesus that Paul missed out on.
The original 12 Apostles literally ate,slept, and breathed God. Hard to beat that!
God Bless.
Paul was the only man that taught in detail the mystery of the Body of Christ the Church. It Is Written Ephesians 3:2-4