Discuss Job 11

  • GiGi - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Hi again Richard.

    Doing an A-Z study on the nature of God is a big task. But worth doing.

    The attribute that came to mind first for me is:


    God has infinite power to the infinite degree. Nothing in creation can compare with the greatness of His power.

    Gen. 17:1 - God identifies Himself to Abraham as "God Almighty". then He tells Abraham to walk before Him and be perfect.

    This was when He appeared to Abraham again when Abraham was 99 years old. Here God renews the covenant with Abraham. Abraham falls on his face before God Almighty while he talks with God. He gives God the reverence He deserves.

    Job 11:7-10 says it well:

    "Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection?

    It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do?; deeper than hell; what canst thou know?

    The measure thereof is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea.

    If He cut off, and shut up, or gather together, then who can hinder Him?"

    Amos 5:14-15 reassures us:

    "Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live; and so the LORD, the God of Hosts (Almighty), shall be with you, as ye have spoken.

    Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish (right) judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of Hosts, (Almighty) will be gracious unto the remnant of Jacob."

    This is wise counsel from Amos. Knowing that God is truly the absolute Almighty One, and that He is absolutely holy, we should have this attitude about good and evil.

    I wonder if Adam and Eve came to have this attitude after gaining the knowledge of good and evil?

    I guess "Absolute" could be another "A" attribute to explore.
  • Ronnette Part 3 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Psalms 119:78 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Let the proud be ashamed; for they dealt perversely with me without a cause: but I will meditate in thy precepts.

    Psalms 119:46 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    I will speak of thy testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed.

    2 Kings 8:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And he settled his countenance stedfastly, until he was ashamed: and the man of God wept.

    Hosea 4:19 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    The wind hath bound her up in her wings, and they shall be ashamed because of their sacrifices.

    Romans 9:33 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    2 Corinthians 9:4 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Lest haply if they of Macedonia come with me, and find you unprepared, we (that we say not, ye) should be ashamed in this same confident boasting.

    2 Timothy 1:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    The Lord give mercy unto the house of Onesiphorus; for he oft refreshed me, and was not ashamed of my chain:

    Isaiah 45:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

    Job 11:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Should thy lies make men hold their peace? and when thou mockest, shall no man make thee ashamed?

    Romans 5:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I 1st thought of the scripture Adam & Spencer Shaw gave you. Then I prayed I might understand what you're looking for.

    Hebrews 10:26-39

    I searched under wisdom & found these. Hopefully these are helpful in what you're looking for: I added a few additional.

    Matthew 12:41-42, Luke 11:31-32, Luke 11:52, Ecclesiastes 10:1, James 3:13-18,

    Ecclesiastes 1:18, Proverbs 17:16,

    Job 11:6-7, Job 26:1-4, Job 28:28,

    Psalms 37:27-31, Psalms 111:10, Proverbs 10,

    Most verses on wisdom are how good & pleasant it is: Proverbs 19:8, Proverbs 23:4, Ecclesiastes 7:12,
  • Carleton - In Reply on Matthew 12 - 2 years ago
    May I add, The Godhead though having three are the one, eternal God there is an order of government. The Father is the head and is greater than the Son.

    1 Corinthians 11:3

    John 14:28

    1 Corinthians 12:4-7

    Isaiah 9:6-7

    Luke 1:31-33

    Isaiah 40:9-11

    Jeremiah 23:5-6

    1 John 5:20

    Hebrews 1:2-3

    Revelation 2:23

    Hebrews 1:6-9

    Job 11:7-9

    Isaiah 40:12-14

  • Adam - In Reply on Psalms 27 - 2 years ago
    I am sorry for your family hardship.

    Is death predestined? This is hard to prove with Bible verses, but my personal belief is sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. This is a fallen world and we are all immortal and are cursed to die, thanks to Adam and Eve disobeying God and committing the original sin. Satan may also have power to afflict us physically. Job 2:7.

    So, we will all die, but we don't know the timing. We tend to get really upset and blame God for His timing being different than our arbitrary expectations. A beautiful child can even be in paradise, but we will sometimes be furious against God for having him there instead of in an environment on earth full of temptation and evil.

    God's priorities are not our priorities on earth. He never promised we'd have a long life and be healthy and wealthy. We might hear man say that on TV, but that doesn't mean it's true. We also get frustrated we don't know why and keep asking why, why, why repeatedly through life in every hardship we have. Even Jesus as a human cried out 'why' to His Father: Matt 27:46. Even Jesus as a temporary man on earth wasn't allowed all the answers, and He went through extreme hardship. And He took it like a man. Didn't complain, but asked why. He kept His love, turned the other cheek, and had great compassion on others. If Jesus Himself wasn't given the answers, why should we expect to? It even suggests this in the Bible that we won't be given all knowledge here. 1 Corinthians 2:7, Job 11:7, Colossians 2:1-3

    I believe life here on earth is a test. God is testing our character and who we will follow. Often we fail badly. We have a sinful nature we must fight against. Some of the most rock solid Christians have admitted their constant struggles with it too, like Paul in the Bible. 2 Corinthians 12:9, James 1:2

    So, why bother praying? God/Jesus is the only hope we have. We aren't puppets playing a script, but have freewill. God sometimes answers prayer and can change His mind.
  • Eric Lopez on Job 11 - 3 years ago
    Stop complaining to yourself because you like to hear yourself. Stop asking God what the sin is and just repent. This is basically what Zohar said to Jobs (Jobes).
  • Richard - In Reply on Judges 7 - 3 years ago
    So when Satan is thrown into the pit to burn forever along with his angles and sinners you think this will be "on" the earth? What about deut. 32:22 "unto the lowest hell", Job 11:8 "deeper than hell", Psalm 55:15 "let them go DOWN quick", hell is not a fire on earth!
  • Chris - In Reply on Job 11 - 3 years ago
    In Job 1:6-12, God had limited Satan's thrusts against Job only to his livestock, servants & family. Job's life was to be untouched, but sadly, all his possessions & family were wiped out by outside forces instigated by Satan.

    In Job 2:1-8, God had allowed Satan to touch Job's life (with boils) but not to take his life away.

    Job according to Job 1:8 was considered a righteous man by God: "And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?" Satan, wanting to make God out to be a liar, wanted to test Job's mettle & show that Job would ultimately reject God if he & his family were sorely affected. God had great confidence in His servant.
  • Bendito Palavra - In Reply on Job 11 - 3 years ago
    In Job Chapter 1 and 2, Satan challenged the LORD regarding Job:

    And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. ( Job 2:4-6)

    In John 8:44 Jesus said, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

    Perhaps if the LORD had not restrained Satan, he would have murdered Job. God had a better end in mind for Job after his trial, at the end of the book.
  • Dorothy Carter on Job 11 - 3 years ago
    why did God tell satan not to touch Jobb's soul?
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Mark 4:27 - 3 years ago
    Mark 4:11

    Job 11:7

    Deuteronomy 29:29

    Do we actually know how to develop a growing seed outside what GOD ALMIGHTY has given us? Can we cause anything to grow & understand how?
  • Deborah Legris on Job 11 - 5 years ago
    this verse is an encouragement to all people no matter what the age. living by faith no matter what the age, or, no matter how many times you repeat a process it will be done with enthusiasm and vigour. faith in what is not seen is the key
  • Michelle on Job 11:16 - 9 years ago
    the pain and sorrow that you had will be gone an you will not remember it again. the only thing you will remember is how the lord brought you out
  • Paul Solomon on Job 11:6 - 10 years ago
    My comments owe a debt of gratitude to Wesley's commentary, which helped me crystalize my own thoughts.

    I think Job 11:6 is abundantly mysterious and complex, and appears to have many layers of hidden meaning, as I think there is a lot more to this passage than what can be casually observed in the plain text. The exclamation point at the end of the first sentence is a clear sign that God is trying to get our attention.

    The second sentence seems to indicate that we are indeed fortunate to be allowed to know some of the Lord's secrets, considering that we can barely comprehend the extent of our own imperfections.
  • Thabo on Job 11 - 11 years ago
    This is my best verse in the whole of the Bible thus far, it teaches us that when we leave all our sins behind we will become invincible.
  • Q powers on Job 11 - 11 years ago
  • Ajith wesley on Job 11 - 12 years ago
    i think jophar was annointed by holyspirit and advising job of their sons sins and job judging others for their sins while his own sons doing sins, he cannot stop them.so he was told be frank in what he thinks .if it is wrong please clarify. thanq
  • Angel on Job 11 - 13 years ago
    Many people are quick to judge others who are going through trials by saying they have done something sinful to deserve their folly. While sinful deeds often do bring a fall, sometimes we have to endure things so that God can be glorified through us. This was the case with Job, he persevered through his trials. It huts when others judge, but that too is part of our trials. We don't just learn from them, so do those closest to us.
  • Richard Law on Job 11 - 14 years ago
    Zophar's speech shows that he is not listening to Job and is inattentive to Job's real situation. The other false comforters have offered Job the empty plattitudes of faith, only implying that Job deserves what he suffers; Zophar takes the next step and rebukes Job for lying about his innocence. Even though the comforters spout the orthodoxy of the Old Testament, they are empty vessels.

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