Thank you for your comments, but I don't think that you are understanding what I'm trying to articulate. Look at my comments to Jimbob: Jimbob was saying that the true translation is the KJV. I responded that the holy bible is only a book, and that the TRUE Word of God is The Holy Spirit not a book of paper and ink, thus translation doesn't mean much because God (The Holy Spirit) makes things make sense rather than a book. Jimbob replied back that the holy bible is more than just a book, (true by the way). Then I said in response to that, that I Love the holy bible and that I only speak against it, NOT out of any I'll will, but ONLY because many people can't tell that the holy bible is NOT God, for God created the holy bible and we are to Worship The Creator NOT the created!
Now, to your response: You go on about how important accurate translation is from the original text so that we may accurately get all patterns and mysteries (cryptic messages numbers of letters etc). To all that I see where you are coming from, in fact I had a conversation with God about this very issue! I point to Jeremiah 8:8-9 and ask, "Father! How can I believe the holy bible when you rebuke the lying pen of the scribes!" My Father said to me "Am I God?", to which I replied "Yes Father." Then He said, "Then accept that though man has changed scripture, I Am God and they have not changed it beyond usefulness." Thus, The True Word of God, (that which He placed in my heart) is intact. Let me be even clearer, The Holy Spirit tells me what to pay attention to and how to lose" it!
The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved. For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am morning; astonishment hath taken hold on me.
I'm not totally certain if its a skin color or a metaphor, but I've heard this verse before be interpreted as a skin color. But just because someone says they're black doesn't mean African. There are caucasions who are very dark from being in the sun so much, for example. People then spent many hours walking outside in the sun- so I think even olive skinned Jews would have been very dark. God bless.
It's not what Israel did, it's what they/Judah did; after God brought them out of Egypt they began doing things which thought were holy but were not, not pleasing to God.
Jeremiah 8:5 Why then is this People of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return.
Jeremiah 48:13 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And Moab shall be ashamed of Chemosh, as the house of Israel was ashamed of Bethel their confidence.
Psalms 25:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Yea, let none that wait on thee be ashamed: let them be ashamed which transgress without cause.
Jeremiah 2:36 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Why gaddest thou about so much to change thy way? thou also shalt be ashamed of Egypt, as thou wast ashamed of Assyria.
Psalms 6:10 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let all mine enemies be ashamed and sore vexed: let them return and be ashamed suddenly.
Psalms 31:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let me not be ashamed, O LORD; for I have called upon thee: let the wicked be ashamed, and let them be silent in the grave.
Mark 8:38 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Jeremiah 2:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
As the thief is ashamed when he is found, so is the house of Israel ashamed; they, their kings, their princes, and their priests, and their prophets,
Luke 9:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
Jeremiah 8:12 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.
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PART 2 of 2
An effective soul-winner has a selfless attitude.
Paul reminded the believers of Corinth that they were to "do everything for the glory of God" ( 1 Cor. 10:31). Evidently, the Corinthians liked to boast about themselves. They considered their favorite preacher to be better than all the rest (1:12-13). They wanted to be known as the most tolerant of sexual freedom (5:1-2). They desired to have the flashiest or most mysterious spiritual gifts (12:4-11).
Paul sought to correct the Corinthians' arrogance by reminding them that the gospel's essence was to love God with all one's heart and love one's neighbor as oneself. In other words, "God first; others second; and me last."
An effective soul-winner presents a Christlike example. This fourth quality really is a combination and summary of the other three qualities. In 1 Corinthians 11:1, Paul exhorted Christians to imitate him as he in turn imitated Christ. In other words, the best way to win over a lost person to faith in Christ is TO LET THEM SEE Christ in you. Christ said that He came into the world not to be served but to serve and give His life as a ransom for many.
He called people to FOLLOW HIM as disciples-people who committed themselves body and soul to Him as Lord. He challenged them to deny self, take up the cross, and FOLLOW HIM.
Whether we prefer to call ourselves soul-winners or disciple-makers, the Lord Jesus Christ expects us to be about the business of living out the gospel consistently and doing everything we can to introduce others to Him.
4 ESSENTIAL QUALITIES OF A SOUL-WINNER
1 COR. 9:19-27; 10:31-33; 11:1
Matthew 9:37-38
Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;
Pray ye therefore the LORD OF THE HARVEST that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
Jeremiah 8:20
The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.
1 Thessalonians 5:1-23, Act 1:7-11, Daniel 2:20-22,
Psalms 16:7, Matthew 21:31-41, Daniel 7:23-27, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, Isaiah 33:6, Jeremiah 8:7, Ezekiel 12:27, Daniel 7:2-27, Daniel 9:2-27, Daniel 11:2-45 -continues- Daniel 12:1-4, Luke 21:5-36, Revelation, the whole book,
In addition to prayer, God also wants us to help ourselves. Here's some scripture for you.
Colossians 4:14 Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.
Luke 4:23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.
Jeremiah 8:22 Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered?
Luke 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
Matthew 9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repent
God provides mankind with gifted minds in a multitude of various fields, including Medicine, Pharmacy, and other varied fields including psychology: the science or study of the mind and behavior. God provides us with these people that can help and cure, or at least help us to manage our health, both physically and mentally.
A wise person will not rule out a service provider based on their religious belief or lack of. That's like turning down emergency bypass heart surgery because the doctor might be an unbeliever. Could be the greatest heart surgeon of all time, but not doing it. Can't let you fix the hole in my roof because you're not a christian.
Be wise, and humble and look at all your options, including prayer.
This shows STILL the Jewish people in the world ALL of them whether religious, cultural, Ashkenazi or Sephardi really need the Gospel for Salvation even today. Pastor Steven Anderson from Faithful Word Babtist Church and refuses to offer them the Gospel with a gracious attitude even in such spiritual blindness.
Jesus Christ is the only living sacrifice acceptable to God The Father, to save mankind from their sins. God
The all male Trinity is a lie. It is a "false truth", and a doctrine of Satan that have been taught in churches for thousands of years as truth.
Howerer, All males cannot produce children, spiritually ir physically. If the world is to look up to God in heaven to see the perfect order of a family, and they are lied to that God is just The Father with a male Son, and a male Holy Spirit, and the all male union produces children, with no Mother anywhere to be found, then that's a major reason why woman have been treated like dirt in some countries, and there is so much disorder in the world today.
Jesus Christ is the son of God The Father, and if Jesus is also our everlasting Father, as the lying scribes say; that means that you and me, The True children of God have the same Father, and that makes Jesus my brother.
My brother can never be my father.
This is truth, not heresy!
The lying pen of the scribes changed some of the scriptures into lies?
"How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made He it, the lying pen of the scribes is in vain." Jeremiah 8:8
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning was The Word{Jesus Christ}, and The Word{Jesus Christ} was with God The Father, and The Word was God." John 1:1
"26 And God{God The Father and The Word,Jesus Christ, God The Wife, God The Mother} said, now, WE make man in our image, after our likeness, and WE give them dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
27 "So God created man in Their own image, in the image of God, they created man, male and female God created them." Genesis 1:26,27
Jeremiah 8:17: God said he is Black: He is angry with Israel for not worshiping HIM but other gods He is Black with anger. wow, may we repent and never see the darkness of God's anger.
R Egnor; verse 21 "For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am black; astonishment hath taken hold on me." The word used (Heb. qadar - kaw-dar'), means to be ashy i.e dark colored; by implication to mourn (in sackcloth or sordid garments) be black, dark, heavy, mourn, etc. Also: totally without light in complete darkness full of sorrow or suffering sad dismal gloomy without hope.
In verse 6, God was waiting and listening for any sign of repentance on the part of the Israelites. This shows that he wanted to forgive them, but since they lacked sincere repentance God would not forgive them.
Yes, there is a balm Gilead, Jesus is our balm in Gilead to save and heal us, but we have to come to him and receive him as Lord and saviour. There is no other way.
Was this an event in history, or a prophecy for today?Muslims are known for digging up remains of kings and leaders.It refers to it being in the sight of the hosts of heaven,and their flag is moon and star.Invasion from far North would be Turkey.So many Jews are so by heritage only, and they did refuse to accept the Messiah when He came. "Refine"
This book is hard for me to enjoy because it is God punishing or letting bad things happen to Judah. He even hired old King Neb to have his way with them because of their noisome disobedience. He removed his protection that King David waxed so poetic about in Psalms. And so it is. Yes, the bible is ancient but the lessons remain quite topical. Follow after idols in any form and you can kiss your blessings goodbye.
Verse 14, Jesus is the living water and Israel rejects Jesus. Jesus is Peace and Love. That rejection is the sin against the Lord. Therefore, they only have the symbolic water of Satan to drink, which is gall and that represents Hate and War.
God is showing us signs and wonders, He is telling us the time is very short. It is time to repent of our sins and to encourage others to return to The Lord. Many people are dying needlessly because of sin. But there is hope for many who will look to Jesus.
Jeremiah 8:15 We looked for peace (worldly peace), but no good came (no peace came); and for a time of health (health care for all), and behold trouble! Instead the deadly Mark of the Beast. Amen
Jeremiah 8:13 I will surely consume them, saith the LORD: there shall be no grapes on the vine No fruit of the Lords), nor figs on the fig tree(no fruit of the Lords), and the leaf shall fade (the saints that are for the healing of the nations); and the things that I have given them shall pass away from them (the shall no longer have the gifts of the Sprit).
Evangelist Chidi.My only advice is that we all need to return like children of God not our fathers or our will buy the truth and sell it not nothing is new God is unchangeable and will do what he intends to do according to his judgements he will not change or spare the wicked.We need to change as quickly as possible not talk of some of us who had a life encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ and got delivered nothing is new if we refuse to turn around quickly judgement will repeat God is too real to doubt gor some of us who have no knowleadge or revelation about pls run as there is fire on the mountain run;run heaven and hell is too real be bless encourage anyone around you to make peace with God.
Harvest - time when God gather His people to Him - is past, and the summer - God's allotted time for us to be saved, the time of grace -- is ended, and we are still not saved - to enter into winter, the time of God's reckoning.
that's just one season ,One year,One summer,One harvest.What about all the other year's that we are not saved When are we going to get saved,we are in Ruth's gleaning that means we are running of time
Thank you for your comments, but I don't think that you are understanding what I'm trying to articulate. Look at my comments to Jimbob: Jimbob was saying that the true translation is the KJV. I responded that the holy bible is only a book, and that the TRUE Word of God is The Holy Spirit not a book of paper and ink, thus translation doesn't mean much because God (The Holy Spirit) makes things make sense rather than a book. Jimbob replied back that the holy bible is more than just a book, (true by the way). Then I said in response to that, that I Love the holy bible and that I only speak against it, NOT out of any I'll will, but ONLY because many people can't tell that the holy bible is NOT God, for God created the holy bible and we are to Worship The Creator NOT the created!
Now, to your response: You go on about how important accurate translation is from the original text so that we may accurately get all patterns and mysteries (cryptic messages numbers of letters etc). To all that I see where you are coming from, in fact I had a conversation with God about this very issue! I point to Jeremiah 8:8-9 and ask, "Father! How can I believe the holy bible when you rebuke the lying pen of the scribes!" My Father said to me "Am I God?", to which I replied "Yes Father." Then He said, "Then accept that though man has changed scripture, I Am God and they have not changed it beyond usefulness." Thus, The True Word of God, (that which He placed in my heart) is intact. Let me be even clearer, The Holy Spirit tells me what to pay attention to and how to lose" it!
The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved. For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am morning; astonishment hath taken hold on me.
Maybe the commentary will help:
Link
I'm not totally certain if its a skin color or a metaphor, but I've heard this verse before be interpreted as a skin color. But just because someone says they're black doesn't mean African. There are caucasions who are very dark from being in the sun so much, for example. People then spent many hours walking outside in the sun- so I think even olive skinned Jews would have been very dark. God bless.
Where those people of darker complexion as a group?
Does this mean something totally different?
Jeremiah 8:5 Why then is this People of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return.
And Moab shall be ashamed of Chemosh, as the house of Israel was ashamed of Bethel their confidence.
Psalms 25:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Yea, let none that wait on thee be ashamed: let them be ashamed which transgress without cause.
Jeremiah 2:36 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Why gaddest thou about so much to change thy way? thou also shalt be ashamed of Egypt, as thou wast ashamed of Assyria.
Psalms 6:10 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let all mine enemies be ashamed and sore vexed: let them return and be ashamed suddenly.
Psalms 31:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let me not be ashamed, O LORD; for I have called upon thee: let the wicked be ashamed, and let them be silent in the grave.
Mark 8:38 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Jeremiah 2:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
As the thief is ashamed when he is found, so is the house of Israel ashamed; they, their kings, their princes, and their priests, and their prophets,
Luke 9:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
Jeremiah 8:12 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.
Alive for Evermore - Rev 1:18
All Knowing Psalm 139:1-6
All, and in All - Colossians 3:11
Almighty - Revelation 1:8
Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8
Altar - Hebrews 13:10
Altogether Lovely - Song of Solomon 5:16
Amen - Revelation 3:14
Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:13 & Daniel 7:22
Anointed One - 1 Samuel 2:35
Author of Eternal Salvation - Hebrews 5:9
Author of our Faith - Hebrews 12:2
Balm of Gilead - Jeremiah 8:22
Banner over us - Ps 60:4, S of Sol 2:4
Bearer of Sin - Hebrews 9:28
Before All Things - Colossians 1:17
Beginning and Ending - Revelation 1:8
Bishop of our Souls - 1 Peter 2:25
Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15
Blessed Hope - Titus 2:13
Bread of Life, my manna - John 6:35
Bridegroom - John 3:29
Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16
Brightness of His Glory - Hebrews 1:3
Buckler - Psalms 18:30
Captain - Joshua 5:14-15, Hebrews 2:10
Changeless One - Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8
Chief Among 10,000, S. of Solomon 5:10
Chosen of God - 1 Peter 2:4
Christ - Matthew 1:16 - 1 John 5:1
Comforter - John 14:16-18
Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25
Counselor - Isaiah 9:6
Creator - Romans 1:25 - Isaiah 40:28
Crown of Glory - Isaiah 28:5
An effective soul-winner has a selfless attitude.
Paul reminded the believers of Corinth that they were to "do everything for the glory of God" ( 1 Cor. 10:31). Evidently, the Corinthians liked to boast about themselves. They considered their favorite preacher to be better than all the rest (1:12-13). They wanted to be known as the most tolerant of sexual freedom (5:1-2). They desired to have the flashiest or most mysterious spiritual gifts (12:4-11).
Paul sought to correct the Corinthians' arrogance by reminding them that the gospel's essence was to love God with all one's heart and love one's neighbor as oneself. In other words, "God first; others second; and me last."
An effective soul-winner presents a Christlike example. This fourth quality really is a combination and summary of the other three qualities. In 1 Corinthians 11:1, Paul exhorted Christians to imitate him as he in turn imitated Christ. In other words, the best way to win over a lost person to faith in Christ is TO LET THEM SEE Christ in you. Christ said that He came into the world not to be served but to serve and give His life as a ransom for many.
He called people to FOLLOW HIM as disciples-people who committed themselves body and soul to Him as Lord. He challenged them to deny self, take up the cross, and FOLLOW HIM.
Whether we prefer to call ourselves soul-winners or disciple-makers, the Lord Jesus Christ expects us to be about the business of living out the gospel consistently and doing everything we can to introduce others to Him.
4 ESSENTIAL QUALITIES OF A SOUL-WINNER
1 COR. 9:19-27; 10:31-33; 11:1
Matthew 9:37-38
Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;
Pray ye therefore the LORD OF THE HARVEST that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
Jeremiah 8:20
The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.
Ask the Holy Spirit to bring the Harvest to you.
Mishael
Exodus 23:14, Nehemiah 9:6-38,
1 Thessalonians 5:1-23, Act 1:7-11, Daniel 2:20-22,
Psalms 16:7, Matthew 21:31-41, Daniel 7:23-27, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, Isaiah 33:6, Jeremiah 8:7, Ezekiel 12:27, Daniel 7:2-27, Daniel 9:2-27, Daniel 11:2-45 -continues- Daniel 12:1-4, Luke 21:5-36, Revelation, the whole book,
Psalms 106:3, Psalms 31:15,
Deuteronomy 18:10, Deuteronomy 18:14, 2 Kings 21:6,
1 Chronicles 12:32, Esther 1:14,
Psalms 9:9, Psalms 62:8,
Matthew 16:2-3,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
Genesis 49:16-18, Judges 18:1-31, 1 Kings 12:30, Amos 8:14, 2 Chronicles 16:4, 1 Kings 15:20, Jeremiah 8:14-17, * Deuteronomy 29:1-29,
Replaced by Manasseh, * Genesis 48:1-6, Numbers 26:28, Psalms 77:15,
In addition to prayer, God also wants us to help ourselves. Here's some scripture for you.
Colossians 4:14 Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.
Luke 4:23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.
Jeremiah 8:22 Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered?
Luke 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
Matthew 9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repent
God provides mankind with gifted minds in a multitude of various fields, including Medicine, Pharmacy, and other varied fields including psychology: the science or study of the mind and behavior. God provides us with these people that can help and cure, or at least help us to manage our health, both physically and mentally.
A wise person will not rule out a service provider based on their religious belief or lack of. That's like turning down emergency bypass heart surgery because the doctor might be an unbeliever. Could be the greatest heart surgeon of all time, but not doing it. Can't let you fix the hole in my roof because you're not a christian.
Be wise, and humble and look at all your options, including prayer.
God Bless.
Jesus Christ is the only living sacrifice acceptable to God The Father, to save mankind from their sins. God
The all male Trinity is a lie. It is a "false truth", and a doctrine of Satan that have been taught in churches for thousands of years as truth.
Howerer, All males cannot produce children, spiritually ir physically. If the world is to look up to God in heaven to see the perfect order of a family, and they are lied to that God is just The Father with a male Son, and a male Holy Spirit, and the all male union produces children, with no Mother anywhere to be found, then that's a major reason why woman have been treated like dirt in some countries, and there is so much disorder in the world today.
Jesus Christ is the son of God The Father, and if Jesus is also our everlasting Father, as the lying scribes say; that means that you and me, The True children of God have the same Father, and that makes Jesus my brother.
My brother can never be my father.
This is truth, not heresy!
The lying pen of the scribes changed some of the scriptures into lies?
"How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made He it, the lying pen of the scribes is in vain." Jeremiah 8:8
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning was The Word{Jesus Christ}, and The Word{Jesus Christ} was with God The Father, and The Word was God." John 1:1
"26 And God{God The Father and The Word,Jesus Christ, God The Wife, God The Mother} said, now, WE make man in our image, after our likeness, and WE give them dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
27 "So God created man in Their own image, in the image of God, they created man, male and female God created them." Genesis 1:26,27