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  • THE ELECTION OF THE GENTILES - In Reply on Isaiah 53 - 2 years ago
    GALATIANS 3

    7. Know ye therefore that they which are of FAITH, the same are the children of Abraham.

    8. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify THE HEATHEN through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall ALL NATIONS be blessed. [Jews and Gentiles]

    22. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them THAT BELIEVE.

    23. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

    24. Wherefore the THE LAW [Moses] was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

    25. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

    26. For ye are all the children of God BY FAITH in Christ Jesus.

    27. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

    28. There is neither JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all ONE in Christ Jesus.

    29. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    If you will search the scriptures in the New Testament on, THE ELECTION, you will learn that by going to the Cross, Jesus RATIFIED (put in force, as in Legal) the New Covenant.

    The Old Covenant was torn (in the Temple) from bottom to the top. The veil was enormous, and only God could've done that.

    We await for the TIMES OF THE GENTILES to be completed. We're close! It has been almost 3000 years.

    Mishael comment: I believe that when the New Testament believers are 'caught up in the clouds' by Jesus;

    The ELECTION will pass back over to the Jews.

    The sudden absence of the Jewish believers in Jesus Christ, will show the Jews left behind that Jesus was indeed, the MESSIAH they had anticipated for thousands of years!

    Scales on eyes and ears will fall off. They will experience the Election.

    Some will stoically cling to disbelief. they will suffer for it.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Isaiah 53 - 2 years ago
    Robert Rogers,

    When it comes to salvation, Judaism and Christianity are in opposition to each other. I'm not sure that they complement each other at all. One is salvation through keeping the law (Judaism), and the other is salvation by grace (Christianity).

    A great study on the difference between the law and grace would be Galatians. It was written because false teachers attacked Paul's ministry and message that salvation was through grace alone, without the deeds of the law.

    The Judaizers professed to be believers in Jesus as Messiah. Their doctrinal approach was that the Gentiles were not in a position of Sons of the Covenant to receive the promises of God until they became Jews and they followed the Law. The first law they said that Gentiles must keep is circumcision.

    The form of the letter of Galatians was different from all of the other letters written by Paul. It's the only letter not containing a commendation. Paul did not commend the Jewish believers in Galatia because they were mixing law with grace. It is the only letter written by Paul that's addressed to more than one church.

    Galatians is a very important book that gives us the difference between Judaism and keeping the law, verses Christianity, salvation by grace alone, through Christ alone, apart from the law.

    Galatians is a shorter version of Romans. Romans is considered the Constitution of the Christian Faith. If we only had the book of Romans, we would have everything we need to know about the Christian faith. Galatians is considered to be the Declaration of Independence of the Christian Faith. Our independence and freedom comes through Christ, not the keeping of the law.

    Back then, when a Jew would crossover from Judaism to Christianity, it would cost them dearly. Their family would disown them, they would lose their job, and they would not be allowed in their own temple. They would be persecuted. It was as though they were dead to their fellow Jews. It's not much different today!
  • Robert Rogers on Isaiah 53 - 2 years ago
    I need help with analyzing the cross over from Judaism to Christianity. How do they really compliment and connect. Additionally, how do they divide from each other.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi.

    Isaiah 53:5. But he was wounded for our ' TRANSGRESSIONS,) he was bruised for our INIQUITIES: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    We are healed from our TRANSGRESSIONS and INIQUITIES.

    God bless
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Luke 22 - 2 years ago
    Hi Dgjot,

    I agree with you and Chris it is not spiritual swords. They would not need physical swords, the Holy Spirit would lead and protect them until their mission was fulfilled and as you said, most all of them, just like Jesus told them, they were beaten, put in prison, and were killed. The actual reason for Jesus asking them to buy swords was to fulfill a prophecy. He told them in,

    Luke 22:37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

    ( Isaiah 53:12) Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Ronald L Whittemore - 2 years ago
    The 70 th Week

    Part 3

    Jesus confirmed the last 3.5 years through His apostles ending when Stephen was killed, Paul was converted, Peter had his dream the conformation to Judah ended and the gospel was sent to the Gentiles. This fulfills the 70=weeks 490/483 years

    We have been told to study, we are told to test the spirits, trust our teacher the Holy Spirit and pray. These are the six things that were determined on Judah and the holy city Jerusalem, a few verses that may help see if this has been fulfilled by Jesus.

    1. To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Hebrews 9:15-18)

    2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( John 1:29) ( 1 Corinthians 15:3)

    ( 1 John 3:5) ( Psalm 32) ( Romans 8:3)

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Ephesians 2:16) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( Romans 3:21-26) ( 1Peter 2:24)

    ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) ( Isaiah 61:10-11)

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) ( Acts 3:18)

    ( John 5:36-40) ( Matthew 11:11-15)

    6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 8:1-12) ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

    The 70 th week has been used along with other Bible verses to paint a fantastic picture of end times. The pre, mid, or post rapture of the Church, an antichrist, 7-year tribulation, 3.5-year covenant with Israel, a third temple, abomination of desolation, 3.5 years great tribulation after breaking covenant, and more. Many of these teachings started in the late 1600s. I hope this helps, if this prophecy has been fulfilled, it will show the falsehoods of these teachings because without using part of the 70 weeks prophecy given to Daniel, these teachings will fall apart.

    Acts.3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Mark 15 - 2 years ago
    Hi Melvin,

    Just to add to the truths that others shared, God is Holy and can't be in the presence of sin, Those was our sins that caused the Father to forsake him.

    God takes sin seriously, Even though it was his son he couldn't turn back judgment,

    God hates sin.

    Isaiah 53:10-11. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

    He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

    God bless
  • Daughter of the King - In Reply on Isaiah 43 - 2 years ago
    I would point your grandson to the love of the Father, the love of the Holy Ghost and the love of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Isaiah 53:4-6 I would encourage him to find out all about why God sent his only begotten Son to die on a cross for us that we would see our need of a Saviour. Jesus hung on that cross for our salvation our healing and our wholeness. " 2 Corinthians 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus. Psalms 138:8 The Lord will perfect that which concerneth me: Thy mercy, O LORD endureth forever: Forsake not the works of thine own hands.

    May God bless you Sonia, and your grandson with wisdom knowledge and understanding.
  • Richard in Christ - 2 years ago
    Isaiah 53:5-6 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed.

    All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

    1 Peter 2:24 Who His own self bare our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.

    1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

    Praise and Glory to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! For ever!! Amen.
  • Ronald L Whittemore on Exodus 20 - 2 years ago
    For any who are looking at theories on how it ends. There is a fantastic picture that has been painted and taught since the early 1800s and is taken from Daniel 9:27 to create the last week (7 years). The entire theory and all that is taught that will happen hinges on taking the last week/7 years from this 70-week prophecy.

    This prophecy was determined on Daniel's people (house of Israel) and the holy city (Jerusalem).

    Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    If Jesus fulfilled what was determined in this prophecy, does that make this entire theory and all that is taught in this theory untrue?

    How will it change the picture if the 70th week in the book of Daniel has been fulfilled?

    What is our blessed hope?

    We have been told to study, trust our teacher the Holy Spirit and pray.

    These are the six things that were determined, and a few verses that may help your study.

    1. To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Hebrews 9:15-18)

    2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( John 1:29) ( 1 Corinthians 15:3)

    ( 1 John 3:5) ( Psalm 32) ( Romans 8:3)

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Ephesians 2:16) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( Romans 3:21-26) ( 1Peter 2:24)

    ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) ( Isaiah 61:10-11)

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) ( Acts 3:18)

    ( John 5:36-40) ( Matthew 11:11-15)

    6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 8:1-12) ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

    RLW
  • Aaron on Isaiah 53:5 - 2 years ago
    Isaiah 53 is in reference to what the Lord Jesus Christ did for us on the cross.

    He was wounded for our transgressions (it was our old sinful lives which put the Lord on the cross in the first place)

    6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
  • David Jones on Isaiah 53 - 2 years ago
    The One Verse you wish you'd known when you where in Israel
  • Helena loves Jesus Christ on Isaiah 53 - 2 years ago
    Praise the Lord! I wanted to first give honor to my Lord and savior Jesus Christ because all the honor and glory belong to the Lord.

    Be encouraged and let us press toward the mark Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

    I thank God for the King James bible online and all the other things it offers and I use in my daily bible study, I copy and paste the scriptures to share with others.

    I would like to share youtube-Honest News Network-Brother Joseph Skinner, It has helped me with the closer walk with the Lord.

    Honest News Network, a Bible based broadcast Ministry, reconciling the World unto Christ, one soul at a time. Brother Skinner is an Ambassador for Christ, called by God not by man and given the ministry of reconciliation in these last days.

    Anointed and sent for the purpose of the gathering together and equipping of the Saints. Brother Skinner's love for the Truth is clearly demonstrated by his passion in his service to God and His Son Jesus Christ our Lord. Lifting his voice like a trumpet and sounding the alarm in hopes of awakening those that have fallen asleep.

    God bless everyone and may the Lord keep everyone under his wing of safety Psalms 17:8 and my prayers are with everyone.
  • Helena loves Jesus Christ - In Reply on Joel 2 - 2 years ago
    Praise the Lord! Sandra, Yes we are in a difficult time but don't lose hope and be encouraged, Jesus Christ loves you and alive and everywhere and not only found in a church building so you can have praise and worship with the Lord in your home.

    Acts chapter 2:4 is regarding speaking in tongue and have been listening and learning on youtube-honest news network, Brother Skinner and there are so many lessons on there and it has helped me to grow in the Lord.

    There is nothing too hard for God, Mark 5:25 and Isaiah 53:5 regarding healing.

    God bless you and may the Lord keep you safe under his wings Psalms 17:8.
  • Michael - In Reply on Matthew 10 - 2 years ago
    Isaiah 53:10 "Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand."

    According to this verse, it was the Messiah's soul (or life; Hebrew word is nephesh) that was made an offering for sin.

    Leviticus 17:11 "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul."

    According to this verse, the life (or soul; Hebrew word is nephesh) is in the blood. Therefore, by shedding his blood, the Messiah shed his perfect life (or soul) to atone for the sin of mankind.
  • Sach - In Reply on Isaiah 53:1 - 2 years ago
    Oh Lou ,that was lovely ,perfect and concise ,thankyou .
  • Lou Contino - In Reply on Isaiah 53:1 - 2 years ago
    Christ felt the physical, emotional & spiritual pain that our sins had us bound in. Only Christ could feel it and remove it from us. Though once we accept Christ's Righteous Covering to remove our sins and free us from judgement, we take on the pain for others who may still be in sin. Our desire becomes Christ's desire to want to bring others to Christ for His glory.
  • Helene - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 3 years ago
    Hi Kiki,

    Regardless of the remedies you choose to use all healing is through the blood of CHRIST. Keep praising GOD and thank HIM for your healing. Affirm HIS promise to you from Isaiah 53:4 "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted." GOD will speak to your heart, if you listen and obey. God bless you and may you be blessed with HIS healing touch.
  • Rose on Isaiah 53 - 3 years ago
    Isaiah 53 is a heart reaching chapter.v3

    Here it refer to Jesus wounded for my congression bruse for my inequity

    He was not guilty, I am but He did it all for me.

    That's love.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Psalms 91 - 3 years ago
    Hello Ron, Thank you for your time and discussion. My meditation on the subject at hand: Isaiah 53:2 perhaps because of the calendar comes to mind: "...he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him"

    The Lord Jesus as a babe and his entire conversation from Bethlehem to Calvary he denied himself of his glory and found himself in the likeness of sinful man. No one knew him. He was outwardly tempted by Satan but chose to believe his Father in Heaven and deny the world of it's offers and carry His flesh to the cross in all purity. It was at the cross where he took the sins of this earth from Adam until time is no more upon his Holy flesh and it became sin unto Him. He had to die in the flesh because of the law, God's law. His spirit still knew no sin but it knew what it is like for sinful man to have the Father look away. Yet Jesus was also the mercy seat over the law which His own blood and water sprinkled clean thereby opening the way for sinful man in the flesh to come unto Him by Faith and repentance of sin.

    Carleton
  • OnlytruthintheworldKJV - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 3 years ago
    Greetings (anew) in Jesus' name, Sacha.

    Of a truth, God has put many plants fruits and vegetables on His beautiful earth here to keep His children in good health.

    That said, a Christian depends solely on the lord Jesus Christ/ Jehovah-rapha for his/her healing perfect health.

    Likewise, a Christian does not partake of any pharmakeia (anything manmade cooked up in a laboratory by witchdoctors- yes, that includes aspirin or ibuprofen).

    A Christian trusts 100% in the word of God ( Psalm 91 & Isaiah 53:5) for their healing and accepts nothing less standing on the word.

    A Christian does not trust in the word of man or make the arm of flesh their strength. A Christian does not trust or believe in the curse/diagnosis of a man in a white coat.

    Example. A man goes to a doctor and is told he has brain cancer and has months to live. He then goes home and reads Isaiah 53:5 "...by his stripes WE ARE HEALED."

    He then has a decision, to make. He can either choose to believe the doctor and trust in the arm of flesh, or believe in the word of God and receive his healing in the name of Jesus Christ.

    So it is with Christians.

    So just as the other commenter said, I dont receive that you had any "covid" hoax virus. You may have had a Coronavirus (which have been around since the 60s- just read the back of a lysol label), which is nothing more than the common cold, but that's it, you recovered.

    So be encouraged Sacha, it is the Lord's will for you to be well. Read psalm 91 & believe it.

    As always, here for you in Christ Jesus,

    Andrew
  • Onlytruthintheworld - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 3 years ago
    Greetings in Jesus' name, Wenmar.

    I likewise do not believe the poison needle is the mark...yet. Noone is being killed for not taking it, and yea it is something people will be cognizant of doing. They won't be able to stick you, and say "ha ha tricked you, gave you the mark of the beast!"

    That said, a Christian certainly does not partake of any pharmakeia, but rather trusts in the Lord Jesus Christ for their health ( Psalm 91 & Isaiah 53:5). So a Christian certainly wouldn't partake of any vaccine. I strongly encourage you not to, by the Holy Ghost.

    On a more important subject:

    Have you obeyed the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
  • Ron - In Reply on Mark 3 - 3 years ago
    OnlytruthintheworldKJV, you were concerned of the time and dates on the 70th week ending and feel there is 3 years left. There are not any dates or time in the scriptures so we have to look at the recorded dates in history. This is the closest dates I can find in history records but it should be within a margin of erra, may it answer your doubts.

    The 70 weeks of 7= 490 years. 483 years when Jesus was baptized. History places this around 29AD. Jesus' ministry was 3 years by the number of Passovers Jesus went to according to scriptures. We are at 486 years. Stephen's death is recorded around 36AD. This is around the same time Jesus stopped confirming the New Covenant through is Apostils and Peter had his dream and went to Cornelius and the gospel went to the Gentiles.

    This prophecy was determined upon Israel and Jerusalem not the world, and these six things were to be fulfilled. See for yourself if these were fulfilled by Jesus. 1 To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Hebrews 9:15-18) 2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( 1 John 3:5) ( Romans 8:3) 3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19) 4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) 5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) 6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 9:6-14).

    The 3 years in Revelation starts when Satan is cast down and gives his power to the beast, not connected with the 70 weeks. If not clear its ok.

    God bless Andrew, Ron
  • Earl Bowman on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    REVELATION 15

    May the Spirit grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS knowledge.

    Revelation is about the kingdom of heaven, CHRIST IN YOU AND YOU IN CHRIST.

    Ephesians 2:15

    Luke 17:21

    Colossians 1:27

    This chapter is a vision of the finished work of the cross.

    Revelation 15:1 ....having the seven last plagues, in them (plagues) is filled up the wrath of God.

    These plagues had to be fulfilled before the kingdom of heaven is possible.

    (vs 2) The sea is symbolic of people ( Revelation 17:15) the fire is symbolic of Christ ( Hebrews 12:29) these have become one with Christ ( John 17:21)( Ephesians 2:15).

    (vs 3-4) The praises to God for their salvation.

    (vs 5) Access to the temple is near. The temple is symbolic of Christ. Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up ( John 2:19)

    (vs 6-7) The wrath of God is now ready to be poured out.

    (vs 8) .....no man is able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels be fulfilled.

    Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him...

    THE WRATH OF GOD WAS POURED OUT ON CHRIST, the last plague being death; now we can enter the temple (CHRIST IN YOU AND YOU IN CHRIST) Christ has become our PASSOVER LAMB, death has passed over us.

    Hebrews 11:5 By FAITH Enoch was TRANSLATED that he should not see death .....

    Colossians 1:13 .... and hath TRANSLATED us into the kingdom of his dear Son
  • Lou on Isaiah 53 - 3 years ago
    Behold the Fifth Gospel that came 700 years before Christ Jesus arrival on earth as the King/ Servant/ Man & God. This will be The Nation of Israel's confession in the very end of times, as it is written in past tense. When The Nation of Israel shall confess that Jesus is the Christ and Blessed and that He came in the name of Lord. Jesus even told The Nation of Israel this, in Matthew 23:39. So in the end after the two witnesses of Moses and Elijah are gone, when The Nation of Israel is surrounded and about to be wiped out by adversaries, their eyes will be opened and they will confess Isaiah 53 and Herald Christ's Return. God will save His People. A remnant yes, but He will do it. Believe God, He Brings us The Truth.
  • Victoria Lawrence on Isaiah 53 - 3 years ago
    Good Job
  • Charles R Peek - In Reply on Isaiah 53 - 3 years ago
    John Chapter three is just an overview; First Corinthians chapter fifteen verse three and four is the Gospel to the Gentiles during the age of grace, and if you believe it you are born again into God's family.
  • Hughalfredhargrovesr on Isaiah 53 - 3 years ago
    It takes the blood of jesus to wash away your sins that when you are born again . St. John ch 3. This is the only way to heaven amen.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Ephesians 2 - 3 years ago
    DearMarilyn

    You stated men are born righteousness, My response was no one is born righteous. Being right right with God doesn't make you sinless.

    Our righteousness don't purify the heart

    Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

    Christ righteousness has to be imputed on to us. In that case all that truly accepted Christ should be on that list

    Let's first look at the verse in Psalms YOU gave to validate your point.



    ""It don't quote the way you presented it"" However what you added argues my point for me..

    You quoting """When an unjust person returns to God they will be justified, made just again""" Here is a few more verses to add to your quote.

    2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

    Romans 3:22 . Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

    Isaiah 53:11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

    Job even disagrees with you:

    Job 15:14-16. What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

    Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.

    How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?

    If you believe that's a list of sinless men I'm sure David would disagree with you also.

    If we can be right with God our deliverance would have came from the law!!
  • Gloria on Isaiah 53:1 - 3 years ago
    Does the Bible say that we as Christians can feel others physical pain


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