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  • Richard H Priday on John 12
    John 12 and Predestination

    This section goes from they did not believe (as seen in John 6:64; 8:46 and others) to verse 39 of this chapter which states that they COULD not believe as prophesied in Isaiah 53:1.

    Verse 42 serves as a harsh reminder that we can have belief in Christ but we also must CONFESS with our mouths ( Romans 10:9-10) in order to have saving faith. We are reminded here of Luke 16:15 which states that which is honorable among men is an abomination to God.

    Here; it was praise of men that was the cause; and being thrown out of the synagogue; not even direct physical persecution.

    Verse 48 reminds us of the conviction of the Spirit as mentioned in John 16:8; a few chapters later. Clearly; the whole Godhead works as a unit in tandem in ways mysterious to man.

    Verse 40 goes on further to state from Isaiah about God Himself blinding men. Some other verses on that include 2 Thessalonians 2:11 where God Himself sends strong delusion so that they will believe the lie because of the previous verse where they did not LOVE the truth. Also we have Isaiah 66:4 where it says that God will choose their delusions.

    All sin stems from self justification; and self love that cannot accept the true state of our souls as fallen man because of Adam and his progeny that makes up natural man. Naked we come into this world and naked we shall go ( Job 1:21); also see Ecclesiastes 5:15. We cannot love anything above God; Jesus uses the word HATE for anything else ( Luke 14:25-26). We see the general sentiment in verse 25 of this chapter. Clearly; Christ Himself showed love in the previous chapter for Lazarus; Mary and Martha as well as John when He said "Behold your mother" to John at the cross so that he could take care of her. ( John 19:26-27).

    There were times when they sought Him out when He stated the more important principle that those who followed Him were brothers; sisters; etc. ( Luke 8:21).

    The blueprint for being a child of God or not is in John 12.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    John 21:16,17, Jesus said this directly to one person, Simon, Son of Jonas, called Peter. To understand more deeply, you would have to follow the scriptures that happened prior.

    Please read: John 10:1-18, Psalms 100:3,

    Luke 12:22-32,

    Matthew 26:31-75, Mark 14:27-72, Matthew 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-25, prophecy from Old Testament: Isaiah 53, Zechariah 13:7,

    Example of people lovingly referred to as sheep : 2Samuel 24:17, 1Chronicles 21:17, 2Chronicles 18:16, Psalms 74:1, Psalms 78:52, Psalms 79:13, Ezekiel 34:6,

    Matthew 9:26, Matthew 18:12,13, Mark 6:24, 1Peter 2:25, compassion,

    Deuteronomy 8:3,

    John 6:47-69, notice in that moment "Simon Peter"'s reply: John 6:68,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Richard H Priday
    A day in the life of Christ part 3

    In looking at and comprehending Christ's unlimited attributes; we might think that with no surprises as to the assessment of men; that He wouldn't experience some of the reactions that He did. One notable example of this was with the Centurion who prayed for His child. ( Matthew 8:5-10). In His human emotions there was nothing wrong with this; in essence He was greatly rejoicing and "basking in the moment" as it were. Mark 6:1:6 shows the opposite example; that of the unbelief of those from His own hometown. This was righteous annoyance if not downright indignation; again not any surprise to the Son of God. Other times there are instances where He wept; careful study of those scriptures gives us insight as to WHY He did so; often associated with the unbelief and blindness of others. It should be noted that as the "Man of Sorrows" there is no verse showing Him laughing while on earth ( Isaiah 53:3). There is no die hard rule here; but we should carefully assess our reasoning for humor and ensure it isn't for inappropriate thoughts.

    Again; it is clear that there were varied levels of depth to Christ's speech; particularly in regard to the parables which He expounded to the Disciples privately after declaring them openly. They were designed so that those who thought they could see were revealted to be blind. ( John 9:39; etc.) He therefore upbraided His disciples frequently for not understanding. To draw all men unto Himself; therefore meant all those the Father had given to Him ( John 12:32; John 6:37 for comparison). We see His temporary solitude with the Disciples after the death of John the Baptist be abruptly halted after the crowds followed Him. Since only some of the crowd was sincere; it shows the nature of Christ in continuing to meet their needs despite the grief of Himself and the Disciples. His priorities made such decisions to care for others above His own needs (coming to serve and not be served
  • T. Levis - in Reply on 1 Kings 6
    These scriptures really apply to "Believers in Christ Jesus" & all that will believe : He was bruised for our transgressions, Isaiah 53, Psalms 22:16, Zechariah 12:10, John 19, read through the chapter to see Jesus' piercings, for us. John 3:15-21,

    When we believe in Him, we become a new creation, 2Corinthians 5:17-19, therefore we try to: Ephesians 4:24, in that we offer ourselves as a living sacrifice to GOD : Romans 12:1,

    Revelation 1:7, I believe the weeping & wailing will be because the amazing person Jesus is & the humble man, with His scars who did it, just for us to be with Him, in His Kingdom : Luke 23:32-48, Matthew 26:28,

    Jesus sat with sinners: Matthew 9:10-13, Jesus healed, delivered, feed & accepted the people including harlots, sinners, etc. Just read the Bible & see.

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T Levis - in Reply
    Some teach that based on interpretation of; Isaiah 42:7, 1Peter 3:18-19, Ecclesiastes 4:14-16, Psalms 142:7, Isaiah 53:7-12, Revelation 1:17-18, Matthew 12:38-45, Luke 11:29-32, Ephesians 4:8-10, Psalms 86:13, Acts 2:27,31, Psalms 16:10, but none of these are clearly stated nor defined so. Jonah 2:2,

    Luke 16:22-31,

    I guess my question is why?

    Jesus has all authority: Luke 12:5, Luke 9:1, Mark 1:27, 1Corinthians 15:24, Matthew 28:18, Job 26:6, Psalms 139, Revelation 1:18,

    Revelation 20, 2Peter 2:4,

    Let's not divide over these issues, James 3:6,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study
  • Ronald Whittemore - in Reply
    Douglas Borchard,

    This prophecy gives the precise time of the first coming of the Messiah. You will receive different understandings of this, it is a study that will take much time. this is just a little information you may use to help your study.

    Many put the last week of this prophecy at the end times. It is used for the 7 years of tribulation, a peace treaty with the antichrist (he in verse 27) for 3 1/2 years then 3 years of great tribulation with the taking of the church somewhere between (pre, mid, post).

    "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, (70 weeks, 70 x 7 = 490 solar years or 483 prophetic years) on the house of Israel (Daniel's people) and the holy city (Jerusalem). It started from "the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem", make a note, that the rebuilding of the temple is not in this prophecy.

    Here are a few verses that may help your study and if this prophecy has been fulfilled or not.

    1. To finish the transgression Isaiah 53:5, 8 Isaiah 53:11 Hebrews 9:15-18

    2. To make an end of sins Matthew 1:21 Hebrews 10:8-11 John 1:29 1 Corinthians 15:3

    1 John 3:5 Psalm 32 Romans 8:3

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Ephesians 2:16 ( Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness Romans 5:17-21 Romans 3:21-26 1Peter 2:24

    2 Corinthians 5:21 Isaiah 61:10-11

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy Daniel 9:23 John 6:27 Mark 1:14-15 Acts 3:18

    John 5:36-40 Matthew 11:11-15

    6. To anoint the most holy Hebrews 8:1-12 Hebrews 9:6-14

    The six things that were determined on Daniel's people and the holy city in this 70-week prophecy; did the Messiah/Jesus fulfill?

    God bless,

  • Richard H Priday - in Reply
    The word "Elohim" is the plural aspect of the Godhead. Since God is one; yet is in three forms (Father; Son and Holy Ghost) they were all involved in the Creation. This is why scripture states "let us create man in OUR image" ( Gen. 1:26); and later on states they know good and evil like us ( Gen. 3:22-loosely translated). Christ actually was the one who created all things ( Eph. 3:9); with God involved. Proverbs 8:22-31 seems to show wisdom personified by the Holy Spirit also presiding over things since before the beginning and in the Creation of the earth. (See also John 1:1). "Gods" may be the best way in human understanding to explain the Hebrew translation but it shouldn't imply that there is more than one true God despite 3 manifestations. Even that is imperfect but closer to explaining the mystery of the Godhead.

    In practical terms; when we see Christ at the crucifixion; it is clear that the universe itself ( Colossians 1:17) would have ceased to exist at his death if there weren't other members of the Godhead (not to mention that Christ would be praying to Himself).

    So the "Oneness" group is clearly offbase. We could say that God the Father came up with the plan of Creation; as well as the Crucifixion ( Isaiah 53:10) and Christ did the action. The Spirit is often in Proverbs personified as "Wisdom" crying out in the streets. It is seen in some sense as "hovering over the waters" ( Gen. 1:2).

    The important aspect here is that God in every form is Omnicient; Omnipresent and Omnipotent (All knowing; everywhere; and all powerful). He also will preside as this present world and it's elements are burned up ( 2 Peter 3:10). We can; mercifully rejoice that a new heaven and earth will be for us someday; according to Rev. 22. All the gods (small g) which are in reality representations of demons and or men's vain imaginations will be destroyed as well. God is the Creator; we are His Creation along with all angels and demons. Praise God.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Hi Gail. Just as a quick background first: Isaiah chapters 49 to 57 are chapters which speak of the coming salvation through God's Servant-Messiah. As much as we see that Israel is spoken of, the intent of the message therein, is to show that it would only be through Israel that their Messiah would be revealed. We know that Israel as a nation always failed God in many ways, but God had not forsaken her, for through her would the Salvation of Israel & the World come. Many Jews (though not all) have recognized that the Messiah is spoken of here in Isaiah, particularly when you get to Isaiah 52:13 to Isaiah 53:1-12, but when the Messiah did come to them, they failed to recognize Him & killed Him. But death could not hold Him: His apostles would be spiritually energized to take the Good News to the world, especially the latterly converted Saul, that the World may have a chance to hear & receive God's Plan for forgiveness & redemption.

    So when the Apostle Paul refers to Isaiah 49:8, he understood the general principle in Isaiah that the Messiah God would be willing to hear their cries for help - that His Mercy would come to Israel, as well to the Gentiles. And though Israel couldn't perceive who this Messiah would be, it was God Himself (the Redeemer of Israel: v7) through His Son, that would bring about a full salvation for all. So Paul could say, "that God was in Christ (the Messiah God), reconciling the world unto himself..."( 2 Corinthians 5:19) and begging the Corinthian believers that "ye receive not the grace of God in vain"; since Isaiah himself prophesied that God's day of salvation had now come & you Corinthians were blessed to receive it ( 2 Corinthians 6:1,2). Therefore, they should accept Paul's work on their behalf & to refuse sin, not allowing it into their lives & the Church, knowing, "the terror of the Lord" against all doers of evil ( 2 Corinthians 5:11; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18).
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Mark 15
    There was 1st a Priesthood in: Genesis 14:18,

    Another priesthood established after 400+ yrs of captivity of Israel in Egypt. Established in Exodus 28:1, described & defined & detailed in; Exodus 28, Ex. 29, Ex. 30, Ex. 31, Ex. 35, Ex. 38, Ex. 39, Ex. 40, Leviticus 1, note the Name, Aaron being in the Levi lineage= Exodus 2:1, Numbers 26:59, if you want to study the laws of the Priesthood all the chapters of Leviticus, I recommend.

    Numbers 3:1-45, clarified who was allowed to be in the Priesthood. Note: Numbers 3:32, Numbers 4, breaks down duties of each family, within that tribe, separated by GOD specifically, Numbers 3:12-13, Numbers 3:41, Deuteronomy also describe the duties. This continued through the book of Joshua. King David & king Solomon, re-established the Levitical Priests; 1Chronicles 6:10, then again at the return of the Babylonian captivity re-established by Ezra, Nehemiah, Haggai, & all Israel that returned.

    Therefore by these recorded accounts it appears the priesthood that existed during the moment your referring to in Mark 15, were traditional heirs of the priesthood as established, in Exodus. Respected & upheld by Jesus himself= Matthew 8:4, Mark 1:44, Luke 5:14,

    Please read Isaiah 53, Zechariah 13:6, John 18:35,

    Interestingly in: Luke 1:5, Luke 2, Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6, Jesus Our High Priest.

    They swayed Pilate, Matthew 27:24, Mark 15:15, Luke 23:4-23, John 19:8-15, yet GOD ordained it & Christ allowed it, John 10:17,

    I find it useful to read & study many Books of the Bible to answer my questions within one part of another Book.

    Hopefully these are helpful & fully answer your questions
  • Alex N
    Phil Matthew 22 : 42 ....Jesus asked the Pharisees what think ye of Christ whos son is he, They replied Davids son ,Then Jesus answered them saying if David calls him LORD in the SPIRIT...how can Jesus be his son...Jesus is telling them if DAVID calls him LORD CAN HOW CAN HE BE IN SON...His bloodline etc...How can Jesus be of the tribe of Judah if he were Davids LORD...And they asked him no more questions after that encounter.

    .....Phil but in Romans 1 : 3 and several other places it says our lord is of the seed of David according to the flesh...So the bible tells us he was of the tribe of Judah according to the flesh.

    .....But our lord tells us he was NOT of the tribe of Judah ACCORING TO THE SPIRIT...in MATTHEW 22 : 42 As David in the Spirit calls him LORD.

    ....Even Hebrews said our LORD sprang outta Judah.... Hebrews 7 : 14 kjv...( according to the FLESH ) Mary

    .....And Psalms 132: 11 One of your own descendents will i place on your throne forever...Which is Christ that came out of MARY of the tribe of JUDAH....Thats the connection to the tribe of Judah is MARY Davids Descendent.

    .....But he cd not come out of the tribe of Judah according to the Spirit simply b/c the tribe of Judah as all the tribes carried the stain and the spot of Adam....As the lamb of God cd not have any such a spot.... Isaiah 53
  • ELB - in Reply
    Amen Brother Alex:

    2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his apistles, speaking in them of these things; in which some things are hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable do wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own DESTRUCTION.

    1 Thessalonians 3:8 Then shall that Wicked (the carnal mind) be revealed, whom the lord (the Holy Ghost, truth and life) shall consume with the spirit of his mouth (born by the word of God), and shall DESTROY by the brightness (light) of HIS COMING (this mystery ...Christ in you....born of SPIRIT).

    Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord REVEALED?

    God Bless YOU!
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Genesis 49
    I was bullied in school, by some students & even teachers. I know several children bullied by teachers & others in authority. I even had teachers throw chalkboard erasers & hit me in the head, multiple times, in front of entire classes. One teacher pulled me by the hair of my head down the hall to office because I asked questioned his fairness 5th grade. 4th Grade the teacher had me miss play time several days because I white skin, & different eyes & hair. "to teach class about predjudist" it made students more isolating towards me. Many more situations, I & others have suffered.

    * To tell someone in authority that has no fear of GOD, sometimes makes the problem worse!

    1st know: Jesus knows better than anyone what it's like to be wrongfully bullied! Pray to The Father for help in Jesus Name: Matthew 6:5-34, John 14:13, Isaiah 53,

    1Peter 2:19-25,

    2nd if you have kind, gentle, loving & understanding parents you all could prayerfully consider Homeschooling.

    If you have a difficult situation at home, then pray about how to tell your Parent/Parents/Gaurdian. Even if they don't outwardly show love, they most likely care about cruel, abusive behavior towards you by others. In one case a child was moved to different school & situations were much better for that child.

    3rd, Remember this time, if you're called to endure is just a few years, sometimes much shorter when you pray. GOD does amazing things, through our prayers. Luke 17:6, Matthew 17:20, James 5:17,

    4th, through hardship we learn compassion, to help others who go through what we have gone through, & going through. 2Corinthians 1:3-4,

    5th, I will pray for you.

    6th be encouraged as I have become unafraid of people & bolder for Christ, wiser especially for things today, you too should be strengthened & be wiser throughout these things. 2Timothy 2:3, Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13,

    Hopefully these are helpful & encouraging
  • James - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 2

    Matthew 12:40 says " For as Jonas was three days and three nights In the whale's belly so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth"

    That comes to a full 72 hours not 36. Not sure I your math was off accidentally or purposefully.

    For all this business of a person having to know that Christ did do this and all the suffering that he went through is a bit heavy. Yes a person needs to know that Jesus bore his/her sins on the cross, died and was buried, then on the third day he rose conquering death and hell. But the simple fact is that it isn't required to know this.

    John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life"

    Jesus hasn't been to the cross and here he is telling Nicodemus how to be saved...without the knowledge of what Jesus will go through.

    Take Phillip and the eunuch in Acts 8:26-40. Yes the eunuch was reading in Isaiah 53:7 concerning the prophecy of Christ having to endure the suffering and death of the cross but when the eunuch saw water he asked. "See here is water. what doth hinder me to be baptized? and Phillip said, if thou believest with all think heart thou mayest. And he answered and said I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Acts 8:36-37

    Acts 16:23-34 tells of the time Paul and Silas we're in Philippi, arrested and beaten with whips and thrown into prison with the jailer given orders to keep them safely. We learn that en earthquake cames and broke the foundation of the prison, with the doors opened and their bands loosed. The jailer came out and thinking his prisoners escaped was about to kill himself. Paul cries out for him to not do so.

    Bringing us to verse 30, "And brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

    And they said, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved, and they house."

    That's just 2 passages showing the simplicity of salvation.
  • Richard H Priday - in Reply
    I tried to respond and lost the verses. Anyway; look at Ephesians 6:17; Romans 13:4; and the earlier warnings to Pergamum for a similar response of God if repentance doesn't occur. There are other verses such as in Isaiah which prophetically speak of the sword of the Lord as it were. Basically; there is the effect on us; as the Spirit of God should pierce our hearts as Luke 2:35 states; and it is also our offensive weapon against the fiery darts of the enemy ( 1 Peter 4:12). These should be a sobering reminder; as the scripture states if we are scarcely saved; what about the ungodly (also in 1 Peter 4). There are some; as in the Corinthian church who have "fallen asleep" and who are "given over to Satan for the destruction of the body so that the soul can be saved." ( 1 Cor. 5:5).

    The Lord chastises all He loves; and they will ultimately produce fruit if they are truly saved. He is patient; but will do whatever is necessary for His plans and work in our lives to be accomplished. Truly; we are Christ's great reward for His sufferings (see Isaiah 53:11). He is given ALL authority over heaven and earth; which would be expected being a member of the Godhead. But God chose to bring Him here and to become a man suffering in all ways as we do without sin. This was God's plan and surely we all must die to ourself as the Spirit enables. Psalm 2 indicates how the world will try to break the bonds as it were of the rulership of Christ; but God has the last laugh. Surely the world will have the stone fall on them rather than falling on it.

    May we allow the pruning necessary to produce fruit. Praise God that although we were enemies of God He has reconciled us. ( Colossians 1:21). Remember that those who have taken the mark have been predestined to be reprobate as they were not written in the book of the Lamb ( Rev. 13:8).

  • T. Levis - in Reply on Psalms 2
    David himself had respect unto GOD & who GOD anointed even when that anointed saught to kill David continuously 2Samuel 1:14, 1Samuel 26:9,

    John 11:2,

    This, Psalms 2, seems to me, to point to JESUS The MESSIAH, Promised one the one Savior to save all mankind, who will believe, Psalms 2:2

    Psalms 2:7, look at JESUS during His baptism, Mark 1:11, Matthew 3:17, & Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5, Hebrews 5:5,

    Psalms 2:8, JESUS when He was taken to the high place to be tempted, Matthew 4:8-10,

    Psalms 2:2, when the rulers, the kings set themselves against Him, Acts 4:25-27, Luke 4:18,

    JESUS coming to HIS own people, rejected by them Isaiah 53, Matthew 21:37-39,

    Revelation 21:7

    Hope this helps clarify
  • Robert E. Krotzer - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 2
    Just as I said, you are ignorant of the Gospel in the King James Bible that is: "Christ Jesus took our place in hell." He said he would be in the heart of the earth ( Matt. 12:40) and greatly feared going there, praying in agony, and sweating blood, not to go there ( Luke 22:42-44). The wicked dead are only in hell. "He made his grave with the wicked" Isaiah 53:9-10 where "his SOUL was made an offering for sin" and Jesus would "be the FIRST that should rise from the DEAD" as Acts 26:23 tells you and "His soul was not left in hell." Acts 2:31 clearly tells you. Jesus did what no man can do; anyone can die on a cross, and anyone can go into hell, but only Jesus came out of hell after 36 hours which no other soul has done. God raise Jesus from the DEAD and unless you believe THAT you cannot be saved. Without someone taking your place in hell you will go there. This is Christianity 101; Why do you not know this? You believe the strong delusional lie that denies that Jesus suffered in hell which saves no one! God made the Gospel so simple; just know that "Christ Jesus took your place in hell" and you HAVE Eternal Life! Where is your brain?
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Matthew 25
    It appears he's speaking to those who identified themselves as "children of Abraham" "under the Covenant" &/or self-righteous:

    Matthew 5:20, Matthew 7, Matthew 8:10,12, Matthew 23, Matthew 25:31-46, note also Matthew 23:34-36, * Matthew 21:23-46,

    Matthew 9:34, Matthew 11:12, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 13:57, Isaiah 53,

    Exodus 19:6, 1Samuel 13:13,14, 1Samuel 15:28,

    the promise made to David 2Samuel 7:12-17, 1Kings 9:5, 1Chronicles 22:9,10, 1Chronicles 28:7, Isaiah 9:7,

    1Samuel 13:13,14, 1Kings 11:11-14, the Bible has in the past shown how GOD will reject those who reject HIM.

    Psalms 22:18,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 24
    We can see a sort of progression; from the detailed descriptions of the Messiah to come of his sufferings at crucifixion; to the journey through the "valley of the shadow of death" mentioned in Psalm 23; to this chapter. Here; we see Christ entering into the gates or everlasting doors (v. 7 and 9); as well as a description in verse 10 of the Lord of Hosts being the King of glory; and the strong and "mighty" in battle in verse 8. Here; we have the triumphant return after the ascension likely indicated in verse 10; with the victory after the earthly triumph at Armageddon in verse 8; when He then enters into the temple itself (in the east gate). This gate apparently has been sealed off since antiquity in Jerusalem.

    The earlier verses indicate a Millenium stance; as to who is worthy to ascend the holy hill (v. 3-5).

    In terms of the blood of the Atonement; it is possible that it was placed in heaven; as well as being part of the vesture dipped in blood mentioned at His returns ( Rev. 19:13). We must remember that Christ is our "Passover" ( 1 Cor. 5:7). He secured victory over Satan; and over death itself. God was satisfied with this; and even pleased to crush Him. ( Isaiah 53:10). Christ Himself will rejoice and be satisfied; as the verse further explains. His travail is worth it to please the Father; and clearly His thought was on us when He prayed before His death for us to be "one" ( John 17:11 and 21). This mindset is similar to Paul's concerns as he was physically wasting away in prison over the church where he said it is more needful to remain; although to live is Christ and die is gain. ( Philippians 1:21-24).

    As the pastor last week mentioned in his sermon; Christ's battle was fought during the silent periods in His trial. He couldn't die after sweating blood in Gethsemane; or after the flogging which many succumbed to. No doubt Satan wished for this. He was strengthened until He had to be left alone at the cross as we see in Psalm 22.
  • Richard H Priday - in Reply on John 1
    This is my best guess. The name of God is the only thing that makes sense. This was His inception into the ministry; which was signified by the Spirit coming on Him as a dove; and in Matthew 4:1 immediately He was sent out into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. This showed total reliance on the Spirit in order to fulfill the supernatural plan to wage war and achieve ultimate victory over death for our sake. Since there is no clear O.T. baptism; only some parallels with the Red Sea passage in Exodus ( 1 Cor. 10:1-4). It fits in with a purification rite; a separation for God's purpose-which for Christ was to be the "suffering servant" mentioned in Isaiah 53. Since John's ministry was one of repentance; there still needed to be the Lamb of God who would die for the sake of the elect sheep.

    It is possible that nothing needed to be said when he baptized Christ. It was the end of his time living according to Mosaic law or principles; being obedient to his parents working in his father's trade until of age for priesthood. All of that was likely done with His own Divine strength; as He never wielded His power; or displayed supernatural authority for the sake of men.

    Anyway; that's my best attempt. Agape. Rich P.
  • Richard H Priday - in Reply on Luke 24
    We need to carefully assess what Peter was told when He confessed Christ as the "Son of God." ( Matthew 16:15-16). Only God could have revealed this to him; that was the Lord's answer.

    For the entire 3 1/2 years of Christ's ministry; they had never had a moment to doubt His victory over any circumtance; and had seen a few who were raised from the dead (Lazarus being only a week or so before Christ's crucifixion.) After Christ's repeated warnings "let this saying sink into your ears" ( Luke 9:44) where He predicted His crucifixion; AND all the related prophecies of the 'man of sorrows" from Isaiah 53; Psalm 22; and numerous other passages; they simply weren't prepared for the sudden letdown of His being arrested; tortured and killed. In human strength; during His agonies at Gethsemene; they simply fell asleep. When He was crucified; they simply were too emotionally spent to conceive that somehow He would be resurrected. Therefore they didn't even believe when the women reported the angels and the stone removed from the tomb.

    It could be surmised that their betrayal in their minds led to Christ's death as though somehow it wasn't in the plan of redemption. After He came to them "incognito" in Luke 24; they finally got it only after he chastised their unbelief.

    Up until this point; perhaps they weren't themselves prepared or having the strength to die themselves and to fulfill the Great Commission themselves. Christ in the flesh was all they knew; but after Pentecost; they were given what was promised from above with the Spirit indwelling after He had ascended to heaven; was seated in heavenly places; and ever interceding for us ( Hebrews 7:25).

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  • Richard H Priday - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Ephesians 3:9 and John 8:58 are two good places to start. These show Christ's part in the Creation along with the Father; and His "I AM" status as God existing before Abraham. If we refer to Him as the "Son of God" then the capital letter "S" indicates acknowledgement of Deity. We also see that the Holy Spirit; which is God and Christ dwelling with us ( John 14:23) is promised to remind us of sin; righteousness and judgment to come ( John 16:8).

    There are other verses throughout scripture; starting with the "Elohim" in Genesis where man is said to be made in "our image" ( Genesis 1:26); other verses in Psalms about the presence of the Spirit or Christ ( Proverbs 8) since the beginning further prove this point. 1 Peter 1:2 shows all 3 parts of the Godhead; and that is repeated many other places. Perhaps the greatest proof to many is Isaiah 53 which mentions clearly that "God is with us". It is prophetic of Christ being "King of Kings" along with His sufferings and deity. It is only by divine revelation that Christ is known as being Lord and worshipped as Christ stated to Peter in Matthew 16:17. It is only by the Holy Spirit that Christ can be acknowledged (or fully understood) as coming in the flesh and any other spirit that says he didn't is not from God ( 1 John 4:2).

    Truly; the righteousness of God coming in the form of a man was the only thing that could forgive us since the fall. He had to be as the second Adam ( 1 Cor. 15:45). The completion of this is the Rapture and or resurrection where we shall be in a glorified body! What is most sobering is that although He is the first of the Firstfruits risen from the dead; He alone will bear the scars as Psalm 22:16 states that they have "pierced His hands and feet." The hatred of the Pharisees was that He claimed to be God forgiving men's sins ( Luke 5:21). Hopefully this is a good start in your search for an answer to your question.
  • Free - in Reply on Luke 2
    Dear "Carol Ann Pallonetti", He was preoccupied with quite a lot other than worldly things when He was about to give up the Spirit. With Him was all wisdom from birth. He may not have recognized her at all. When He also meant that why do you grieve? You should know better!

    I also think He is rude. But He probably also knew that after His death there will be doctrines and teachings that honor the Lord's mother. He might want to point out that Honor Me all of you, do not begin and honor my mother. Unfortunately, she probably only had one task. His thoughts are not like our thoughts. When He in the flesh could say so, and yet not mean it in a Spiritual way. I also think the Lord showed His carnal side in the question to His mother. Maybe she's pushing Him? God knows!

    Have you ever woken up from anesthesia? And experienced pain hell. Then you are not properly sensed with yourself an ordinary human being either. Rather, think of what He went through here on earth. He even had to say to His disciples: How long shall I endure with you? Be happy that in His wounds we have been healed:

    Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    Ephesians 3.

    Stay blessed in His Holy name Jesus, love u in Christ.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Numbers 9
    Romans 9, Romans 12,

    Hebrews 7:17-28, Hebrews 9, Hebrews 10, references Exodus 39, Exodus 40, Leviticus,

    Note Hebrews 10:12 "But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down at the right hand of God." also John 19, Isaiah 53, Luke 23,
  • T. Levis - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 4
    1Corinthians 4, understanding 1st pray & read: James 1:5,

    1Corinthians 4:1 "Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of CHRIST, and the stewards of the mysteries of GOD." references: Mark 4:11, in context Mark 4:1-34, Romans 11:25, Romans 16:25-27, Ephesians 3, Revelation 10:7, some Old Testament references: Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, Zechariah 13:6, Leviticus 16:17, John 19,

    Romans 14:12 : reference for several

    1Corinthians 4:2, references: Titus 1:7,

    1Corinthians 4:3-4, ref: Romans 8:33, Isaiah 50:8, Jude 1:24-25, Romans 14:13, Psalms 98:9,

    1Corinthians 4:5, ref: Matthew 25:31-46, Hebrews 10:30, 2Thessalonians 2,

    1Corinthians 4:6,7,8, ref: 1Corinthians 12, Deuteronomy 8:18, Psalms 75:6-7, John 19:11,

    1Corinthians 4:9-14, Hebrews 11,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Isaiah 46:10,

    Genesis 1, Hebrews 1:10,

    Revelation 21:6, Revelation 22:13, John 1:1-5, Ephesians 3:9, Colossians 1:18, Luke 24:27, Revelation 3:14, Revelation 1:8,

    Psalms 80:15-17, symbolic? Genesis 2, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, Zechariah 3:8, Zechariah 6:12, John 15,

    Isaiah 53, Luke 23, Psalms 22, Mark 15:34, Mark 15, in context

    Hebrews 9:24-28,

    The last, 1Corinthians 15:45, Romans 5:12-21, John 19:30,

    Hopefully these are all helpful in your study
  • Richard H Priday on Deuteronomy 4
    This passage shows the last great speech of Moses; before he went to his death as stated in verse 21 and 22. Even he was unable; because of one time of anger striking the rock for water an extra time (symbolic in some ways of Christ) that he was not allowed to enter the Promised Land but saw it from afar.

    Once again; they are reminded not to worship idols. The past manifestations of God on the mountain with fire was reiterated; and warnings as to future sin and being dispersed among the nations in exile after many died in the land would certainly come to pass. There is even a prophetic statement about the last days and tribulation (v. 30) where God still promised some mercy for repentance. This demonstrates the sad reality that Moses knew as God Himself that there would be rebellion as long as man remained in his sinful state until Christ returns. Nonetheless; God's covenant would remain (verse 31).

    The blindness among the nation of Israel will finally be removed right before the return of Christ according to Zechariah. Romans states this as continuing until the "time of the Gentiles be complete ( Romans 11:25; see also Luke 21:24). Truly, there has been a time in the wilderness for the Jews up until today; as they have been unable to assess the suffering servant in Isaiah 53 as being Christ. Sadly; many will fall for Antichrist when "another comes in his own name" ( John 5:43). The lesson of going after enemies without God's blessing due to sin in the camp was something prevalent at that time. It was sin which caused such an extensive delay to get out of the desert; and would continually cause the nation to fall short of the promises in God's covenant for the Promised Land. Nonetheless; mercy stands as we have a God much more patient than you or I. Time and time again He forgives despite the heart of man which is desperately wicked ( Jeremiah 17:9).
  • Mishael - in Reply
    Jesus Likely Had Black Hair and a Beard.

    Jesus told his followers, "And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black" ( Matthew 5:36).

    Jesus probably had a beard and short curly hair with long sideburns or "payot." Jesus followed the law in Leviticus 19:27 which said, "You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard." Even today, Orthodox Jewish men grow long hair on the sides of their heads.

    Shorter hair was considered the norm for Jewish men and for Romans. Paul explains to early Christians in Corinth, "Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 1 Corinthians 11:14-15; Numbers 6:1-8

    For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed." ( Isaiah 53: 2-3, 5)
  • JC SERVANT - in Reply
    (1) His miraculous birth was prophesied 800 years before His coming: "Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Emmanuel" ( Isaiah 7:14, KJV).

    (2) The prophecy was fulfilled to the letter. "Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus" ( Luke 1:30, 31, KJV).

    (3) Jesus demonstrated human characteristics: He became tired ( John 4:6). He thirsted ( John 19:28), He ate food ( Luke 24:40-43), He showed feelings ( Mark 6:34), He wept ( John 11:35), He knew temptation ( Hebrews 4:15), and He died ( John 19:30).

    Jesus Christ Accomplished the Works of His Father:

    (1) He died on the Cross. This is the fundamental theme of the Gospel.

    The fact of His death-One-fourth of the Gospels are dedicated to His Passion and Resurrection. (a) For this purpose He came into the world ( John 12:27). (b) His death was prophesied hundreds of years before He came ( Isaiah 53:3-8).

    The meaning of His death. (a) It was a ransom for sin ( Matthew 20:28; Romans 3:24; 1 Peter 1:18). (b) It was to pay the penalty for sin ( Romans 3:24; 1 John 2:2; 4:10). Man is the object of God's wrath because of rebellion and sin, but God took the initiative in satisfying His wrath by sending His own Son to Calvary. (c) It is a reconciliation. The enmity between us and God has ended ( Romans 5:10), and we are restored to God ( 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19). (d) It is a substitution: He died in our place ( 1 Peter 3:18; 2 Corinthians 5:21). (e) In summary, the matter of sin has been completely dealt with ( 1 Peter 2:24; Hebrews 9:26; Hebrews 10:12).

    (2) He was resurrected from the dead: This is unique and fundamental to Christianity.

    The reality of the Resurrection ( John 20:1-10; 1 Corinthians 15:4).

    The credibility of the Resurrection: (a) Jesus predicted it: Matthew 13:39-41; Luke 24:1-7. (b) The tomb was empty: John 20:11-13. (c) Many witnesses saw Him alive: the women ( Luke 23:55, 56); Mary Magdalene
  • T Levis - in Reply
    Isaiah 53, Luke 1, Luke 2, Luke 3, whole chapters

    Zechariah 13:6,

    My question back, is why does she feel this way? anti-Semitic thought sometimes were thought because of the crucifixion. Sometimes for love towards Jesus & sad for His suffering, If someone doesn't read deeper to see Jesus came to his own, wounded by his own. For all mankind & HE forgave even them. John 4:9, Luke 23:34, Luke 6:37, Romans 1:16,

    Other good scriptures were given by other answers.

    It may be a good start to find out why it's important to her to believe that. Finding the root, sometimes helps better answer questions.

    Hopefully these are helpful

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