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Isaiah 51 KJV Bible discussions
  • S Spencer - in Reply

    Part 2.

    Obviously the "EVERLASTING" conditons described in scripture concerning the Abrahamic and Davidic Covenants.

    Scriptures such as Isaiah 51:11 and many others don't exist of yet.

    They are certainly back in the land but the wailing wall in Jerusalem reminds me of Matthew 27:25.

    Also Matthew 23:38-39 seems to parallel with Hosea 5:15.

    Does Israel disobedience void the UNCONDITIONAL COVENANT AND PROMISES?

    According to Psalms 89:27-36. NO!

    "My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him.

    His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven.

    If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments;

    If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;

    Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.

    Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, NOR SUFFER MY FAITHFULNESS TO FAIL.

    ( This is a marvelous saying! It's God's faithfulness that is on display!!)

    MY COVENANT WILL I NOT BREAK, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.

    Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.

    His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun before me."

    Daniel has much to say about this in Daniel 9:24

    "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy."

    See Examining the covenants

    Part 2.

    God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - in Reply
    Hi Jema,

    I may be different, but in my understanding of the Bible, I approach scripture simply and do not try to complicate things with preconceived ideas and let the Bible and the Holy Spirit do the interpretation. To me, a symbol will have a non-symbolic meaning.

    A symbol represents something real, a real person, a real thing, or a historical event. When I read, I understand words in a literal sense first, then in a figurative or spiritual sense if the literal doesn't make sense.

    Are the Christians now the Israel of God? Have the promises to Israel and the church merged into one common heritage? If so that brings up.

    Will the promise of the land given to Abraham's seed, Isaac then Jacob be fulfilled? Isaiah 11:11-12 Ezekiel 37:21-25 Jeremiah 24:5-6 Ezekiel 34:11-12 Ezekiel 36:24-26 Hosea 3:4-5 Micah 4:6-7 Zechariah 13:8-9

    Will Jesus the Messiah return and reign on the earth, with a rod of iron? Isaiah 2:1-4 Isaiah 11:1-4 Daniel 2:44 Daniel 7:14 Zechariah 14:1-4 Jeremiah 3:17 Revelation 2:26-27 Revelation 11:15 Revelation 12:5 Revelation 19:11-21.

    Will there be a literal millennium during which Satan will not deceive the nations and Christ will reign on earth? Revelation 20:1-6 2 Timothy 2:11-12 Isaiah 2:2-4 Isaiah 11:5-16 Isaiah 65:19-25 Isaiah 51:4-5 Zechariah 14:16-21 Micah 4:1-4 Psalms 46:7-11 Matthew 19:28.

    To me there are too many scriptures that are showing God has not replaced Israel with the Church. We see in Romans 11:24-27 a day when God will again turn to Israel, the day Jesus returns. Forgive me if some of the scriptures do not fit.

    God bless,

  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 79
    Psalm 79. Asaph passed from this earth several HUNDRED years before the Babylonian captivity however this Psalm certainly sounds like that captivity; and it certainly has some parallels to later events such as the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 as well as the end times. Verse 6 certainly seems to be a universal sort of destruction for all of God's enemies in the impreccatory sort of narrative.

    We see further parallels with verse 10 and the passage in Revelation 6:10 on "how long"? Verse 11 seems to indicate the prisoners being released as some other prophetic verses state such as Isaiah 51:14. And verse 12 shows with the "sevenfold" rendering as similar to the sevenfold series of judgments in Revelation; references in Deuteronomy and other scriptures about sevenfold judgments.

    Finally; the last verse shows how the "sheep of thy pasture" will give thanks forever and to all generations. That could certainly be a Millennial reference.

    There are many prophecies which make Asaph in that catagory. We see that he led song and apparently lived a long life. We do well to look at the song of Miriam in Exodus 15:20-21 to see how powerful worship and song is related to many victories of God.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 12
    We are reminded of James once again in regard to the tongue and how dangerous it can be. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways ( James 1:8

    There are also prophetic overtones once again; such as the character of the Antichrist in Dan. 11:32. We also see in the first verse that godly and faithful man fails and ceases. That reminds us of what happens when the restrainer is removed in 2 Thess. 2:6. Verse 4 seems to show a world thinking that they are without leadership (small lord). The verse about silver tried in a furnace of earth; purified seven times reminds us of the seven year Tribulation as well as the concept in Leviticus 26:18 for God's people.

    Verse 7 shows preservation from this (possibly the last) generation. That could indicate a deliverance FROM the wicked; or THROUGH the Tribulation when the wicked reach their apex.

    God knows how to preserve His children as we see the concept in 2 Peter 2:9 (also translated dtemptations) also it is clearer in Romans 1:16-17 where we are kept from the "wrath to come." Verse 5 reminds us that as Christ said "the poor will always be among you." ( Matt. 26:11). It appears that children will be restored according to Isaiah 49:25 as well as literal releasing of prisoners in Isaiah 51:14; although other verses can be applied to Christ freeing us from the prison of sin such as Isaiah 61:1-2 quoted by Christ.

    These verses could have been penned by David with some of his own personal situation on his mind at least; but these broad promises certainly go beyond just being applied to David's situation as the Spirit inspired these passages in Psalms as in all scipture.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Hello Patricia. As you have read this chapter ( Isaiah 51), verses 1 to 8 reveal the promises & comfort of the LORD to His people. But then from verses 9 to 11, it appears that Isaiah is prophesying on behalf of the people, as they call out to the LORD:

    "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon? Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over? Therefore the redeemed of the LORD shall return, and come with singing unto Zion; and everlasting joy shall be upon their head: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and mourning shall flee away."

    So in these verses (vv 9-11), there is recollection of the old days when the LORD wonderfully saved Israel from the bondage of Egypt. So, Rahab here is not a person but is representative of Egypt and the wounded dragon, Pharaoh. Then the LORD speaks in verse 15, "But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name." The LORD continues to comfort & assure His people. Also, see a similar thought being expressed by Ethan the Ezrahite in Psalm 89:8-10.
  • Patricia Julian
    Isaiah 51 verse 9

    What Rahab is this? A person or place?
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Jeremiah 20:11
    Jeremiah 20:1, Yeah, sad when someone of trusted positions act corrupt, cruel & evil, abusing their authority, especially in the house of The LORD our GOD! Proverbs 15:3, that's why GOD sent Jeremiah to prophecy to them. Jeremiah 1:4-19, Jeremiah 4:1-6, notice Jeremiah 20:1-6, Jeremiah 7,

    But then: Jeremiah 3:12, Jeremiah 12:15, Isaiah 51:11, Isaiah 35:10, Isaiah 44:22, Isaiah 55:7, John 3:15-21,

    Even today we see hypocrisy but Jesus already knew, lived it & gave us direction : Matthew 23, Matthew 25:31-46,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Chris - in Reply
    That's a great verse Joshua (btw, I think you meant to write Isaiah 51:16); a verse of great assurance to Judah (who would go into Babylonian captivity about one hundred years later).

    Even though Isaiah's message may seem presumptuous, Isaiah had already prophesied (as did other prophets) of Judah's & Israel's captivities. But now, the promise was given that they would be released from captivity & return to their own land. Isaiah chapter 51 is but one chapter of God's encouragement for them to be faithful to their God & Redeemer (i.e. hopefully they would have learnt their lesson from their punishment). So in verse 16 (the special verse given to you), the words here are reminders to Judah of God's special, unflinching interest in His special possession.

    "I have put my words in thy mouth": assures them that they were the only ones of all the peoples of the Earth to receive God's Laws & Truths; they were the ones selected through whom the Messiah would come & through Him & because of Him, would God's Word spread to all. The Gospel of Christ was the message of life & hope to all those sitting in darkness bound in sin's shackles. Judah (& Israel) already received God's Truths & they were expected to learn from their punishment to declare the Name of the LORD as a witness to His Power & Goodness. But did they? Sadly, No.

    But this part of the verse you've received is indeed special & timely. You should not be as Judah was, a privileged people with every reason to be a shining light to the world, yet remaining unchanged. As a child of God, with Christ's Spirit reigning in your heart, you not only have God's Word hidden there, but you are God's Light to shine forth & bring His Word to others who might be sitting in darkness & bondage; to share the words He's put into your heart & mouth. May those words echo King David's praise in Psalm 35:28, "And my tongue shall speak of thy righteousness and of thy praise all the day long." Be greatly blessed, dear brother.
  • Alex N - in Reply
    I meant to say Jeremiah 51 not Isaiah 51....Need some coffee
  • Alex N - in Reply
    Hi Tom but what happened to John the bap. is just prophetic of what is gonna happen to anybody that followes Jesus with ALL their hearts and minds like John ... Rev. 2 : 10...Fear none of the thing you will suffer for behold the devil will cast some of you in PRISON be faithfull unto DEATH and i will give you a Crown of life.

    .... Rev. 20 : 4 ...I saw the souls of them that had been BEHEADED for the witness of Christ Jesus and for the WORD of God...And they lived and reigned with Christ for 1000 YRS....

    ....Precious in the eyes of the lord are the death of his saints...

    .....Most all the disciples were killed for the testimony of Christ Jesus..Paul says he was a Prisoner for Christ Jesus...

    .....Having the Mind of Christ is a type of BEHEADING in the Spirit.

    ....We are gonna be BEHEADED to the things of this world... Isaiah 51 : 20 You are my battle ax...with you will i destroy kingdoms and nations...The horse and his rider, the young man and the maid...The farmer and his yoke of oxen...Our minds are gonna be changed , we are gonna put on incorruption and immortality....We are gonna have the very mind of Christ Jesus...They will cast some of you in Prison Fear none the things you will suffer be faithful unto death and i will give you a Crown of life....The things JOHN SUFFERED in his flesh we will also suffer in the Spirit.....Lord be merciful to me a Sinner....Alex
  • Free - in Reply
    Dear Antonio James on Hebrews 3 and all the rest :).

    Thanks for the reminder from the Hebrews.

    1 John 3.10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    Isaiah 51:2 Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him."

    2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

    2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

    3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

    4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

    5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

    6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

    7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

    Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

    2 Timothy 4.7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:

    8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

    John 5:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

    Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 102
    The nondescript person here uttering a complaint sounds much like the author of Lamentations mourning over the situation during the Babylonian invasion. There is great similarity also to Job during his sufferings. There perhaps is the greatest meaning in the time when Christ returns (v.13). Daniel states that there are set times; and even Antichrist can't change times and delay Christ's return and victory over him ( Daniel 2:21). Once again; as in earlier Psalms the heathen shall fear the name of the Lord (v. 15). The prisoners will be set free ( Isaiah 51:14) as v. 20 indicates; and during the Millennium God looks down from heaven (heavenly Jerusalem) in v. 19. Eventually, the earth shall perish and be changed (v. 20) at the end of the period; and at the time of the Great White Throne judgment. ( Rev. 20:11). Then there shall be eternal glorified saints continuing forever (v. 28). This could indicate those already in redeemed bodies from the church age; as well as those natural men that live physically with their descendants (seed) during the 1000 years; who live throughout that period and are translated into eternity.
  • READ THE SIGNS__Matthew 24__Luke 21 - in Reply
    Global warming is an excuse for Governments and secret societies to track & monitor people. Computers record everything. The wise thing to do is trust Jesus to save you from the End of Days.


    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent HEAT, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be BURNED UP.

    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the FAY OF GOD, wherein the heavens being on FIRE shall be dissolved, and the elements shall MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT?

    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

    14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. (See BORN AGAIN in John 3)

    15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

    16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

    17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

    18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

    See also: Isaiah 51:6, Revelation 21:1

    Timing of Jesus's Return is any time now.

    God is going to restore the earth to like it was in the Garden of Eden. No scars, no pollution, no sin; no Satan, no demons; all extinct animals and creatures will be returned.

    Be born again now. Don't procrastinate!

  • Helen
    In Isaiah 51:11

    where it says "everlasting shall be upon their heads"

    Can someone verify that the word "be" is italicized or not?

    thanks a lot
    I'm not refusing anything. Jesus doesn't know the time of the end. Only the Father knows.

    I'm a street preacher. I just get people ready to go__period.

    I watch for the signs, that happen on this earth; in these political systems; plagues and pandemics on all continents; changes in money systems.

    Advancements or increased "labor pains". We all have our part to doas the BODY OF CHRIST.

    I think Matthew 16:1-4; 12:39-42; Jonah 3:1-4

    We are all parts of the Body of Christ, but each body part is not identical. The Holy Spirit gives as He wills.

    Not everyone that comes in here can understand the book of Revelation. It corresponds to other events on earth, and in the heavens.

    Like right now the Arab kingdoms are uniting; and with China and Russia.

    MATTHEW 24:42-51 sign of Noah

    MATTHEW 25: 1-13 the 10 Virgins

    I do not believe that Jesus will suffer His Bride to be killed. I believe we will see the beginning of the Trib. and warn people. A great harvest. I think Noah labored on the Ark 6 days a week and preached in the city. When the Ark was ready, GOD SHUT THE DOOR. The door was massive and had to be secured outside.

    Can any of us conquer the fear of man, and get this message we know so well, and preach so well here, and take it to people who are perishing, "out there".

    People watch the news every day (YouTube or tv) so there is an awareness of the signs. We just need to open up WHERE this is all leading to. All this global warming hype from the Government, IS 2 PETER 3:10-12. The earth is warming, and we are being warned. Isaiah 51:6

    You do your task, and I am doing mine. I'm looking up every day and night for Jesus's appearing in the clouds. I'm going with Him no matter what: pre, mid, whenever it happens. I want to be doing what He asks: harvesting, doing good. Matthew 25: 31-46

    In the spirit of love, Mishael
  • Earl Bowman

    May CHRIST IS US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Luke 17:21 ....Behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.

    Matthew 12:28 But if I (Christ) cast out DEVILS by the SPIRIT OF GOD, then the kingdom of God has come unto you.

    Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was CAST OUT ....

    Revelation 11:15 ...The kingdoms of this world (Satan in us) are become the kingdoms of God (CHRIST IN US), and his Christ; and he shall reign (IN US) for ever and ever.

    Colossians 1:27 ...This mystery...CHRIST IN YOU...


    Song of Solomon 5:1 I (Christ) am come unto my GARDEN...

    Isaiah 58:11 ...and thou shall be like a watered GARDEN....

    Isaiah 61:11 ...and as the GARDEN causeth the things that are sown it to spring forth; so the Lord WILL CAUSE righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

    Ezekiel 36:35 And they shall say, This land (kingdom of God) that was DESOLATE is become like the GARDEN OF EDEN ...

    Genesis 2:9 ...And the TREE OF LIFE also in the midst of the GARDEN, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    Isaiah 51:3 For the Lord shall comfort Zion (His chosen): he will comfort all her waste places: and he WILL MAKE her wilderness like EDEN, and her deserts like the GARDEN OF THE LORD: joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

    Genesis 3:8 ..the Lord God walking in the GARDEN..

    Ezekiel 31:8 The cedars in the GARDEN OF GOD could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches: nor any tree in the GARDEN OF GOD were like unto him (Christ) in his beauty.

  • Christians Are The Ransomed - in Reply on 1 Timothy 2:4
    Isaiah 51:10

    Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?

    Jeremiah 31:11

    For the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he.

    Hosea 13:14

    I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

    Matthew 20:28

    Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

    Mark 10:45

    For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

    1 Timothy 2:6

    Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
  • CHINA in the Bible - in Reply on Ezekiel 38
    Revelation 16:12

    The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

    Revelation 9:16-18

    The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur, and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

    Matthew 24:14

    And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

    Isaiah 49:12

    Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of Syene."

    China gave us SARS virus, Corona virus... what was the one before SARS? I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet.

    2 Timothy 3 Last days people described

    2 Peter 3. It's all going to be burned

    Isaiah 51:6 Heavens shall vanish like smoke

    People this is the 3rd down in the 4th quarter. If you love your life...your wife, kids, relatives, friends....GET SAVED NOW!!

    John 3

    It's going to happen faster than 1 eye blink.

    After that, it's over. No more time.

    You are eventually Going to meet Antichrist or his evil government agents. First all Nicey nice. Has good answers. Then His real face shows through. It looks like Death.

    I get so tired of preaching to people hard of hearing. COPY those scriptures down on the inside cover of your Bible. I hope you have one?
  • Mishael On The Harvest - in Reply on Isaiah 43:11
    Instead of washing your mouth out with soap (yes, they did that)>>> you renew your mind With the washing of the Word of God.

    Studying takes time, lots of time! First you need to be baptized into the Holy Spirit so you can understand what you're reading. He is your Teacher.

    Jesus said to Follow Him, so you gotta get boots on and see which way he's goin.

    A new song: if you're saved and you know it..... tell someone. :D

    That's when you find out people have questions and you're not sure about the answers.

    Look. Everybody else is out of the closet, so should be Christians. Then there's the fact that our country kicked Jesus out of schools in 1962.

    In 1973, Roe vs Wade made it legal to abort college tuition payers who would become future taxpayers so your future as a retiree would be secure too. No one anticipated future fallout from that. I asked God what can we do, and He said he was going to take care of it! Did you know all the little almost babies are in heaven now, alive and well. Heaven is going to be fantastic. And there will be pizza too.

    If you draw close to God so that your footsteps are almost on His, you will learn many things. He's the most interesting person I ever met. Study the relationship between Father and Son; Son and Holy Spirit. What do they say about each other? What do they do together? Look at this planet and the universe and note all the sheer numbers and varieties of each species, landscapes, vegetation's. Imprint your memories. Isaiah 51:6,

    2nd Peter 3:10-12. New Jerusalem will be even more beautifully adorned.

    What an exciting time for you. We are the generation that will NOT pass away till all these things happen.

    You may be the workers of the Lord of the Harvest. Praise God.

    Now go look up all these scriptures :)

    Who's sleeping? We have to wash clothes & fold them too. Read some of the history at the bottom of this page. Hit it hard all weekend...
  • John Macpepple
    I need a sermon on Isaiah 35:10 or Isaiah 51:11
  • Norm on Isaiah 14
    Gail, put all your trust in JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOUR as He is the way, the truth and the life. Spiritual Zion is not of this world just as Israel is not a spot on a map, but is instead a people. Be blessed in Christ Jesus. Amen. Psalms 125:1 A Song of degrees. They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever. Isaiah 51:16 And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.
  • Glenn Samuels sr on Isaiah 51:3
    What message does the Bible say about Isaiah 51:3
  • M on Isaiah 51
    Isaiah 51 is letting us as GOD children know that we do not need to be afraid of our enemy because GOD is in control,HE take very good care of us ,when the wicket even my foes come upon me to eat my flesh they will stumble and fall.GOD said it and I believe it.
  • Marcellus chuene on Isaiah 51
    Isaiah 51 is inspirational and shows how much God cares for His People, despite our lack of faith and fear. It underscores the importance of putting everything in God's hands.
  • Sam okorie on Isaiah 51
    Isaiah 51 shows the supremacy of God over every circumstances of our lives that threathen our existence on daily basis .God in this chapter admonished us not to care about human threats but rather ponder on how awesome are the works of His hands.this chapter also remind us that we should put absolute trust and confidence in the AWESOME ONE-JEHOVAH.

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