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  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    God's plan for the nations (conclusion)

    As for the eternal new heaven and earth it seems verses indicate there still will be nations although some seem to merge with promises from the Millennium. However; Revelation 21:24 says: And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. So it is clear that there will be nations still in some geographic sense; although no more sea and the heavenly Jerusalem will clearly be the dominant vista wherever you roam on this new planet.

    Jesus stated from the O.T. that the Temple was supposed to be a place of prayer for all nations ( Mark 11:17). This surely will be fulfilled in the future!

    There are nations that are said not to know God. Isaiah 55:5 shows that they will wake up at the end of the Tribulation as well as return captives (see Isaiah 49:22-25). They also shall bow down as kings and queens to worship God ( Isaiah 49:23) and take care of children. These are wonderful promises to show even from the wicked Tribulation some even in royalty will be saved! We see an interesting prophecy in Ezekiel 39:2 that a sixth part of the Gog army will remain; I would deem it likely many of these people will repent; although a remnant it will probably be a fairly substantial number of those remaining at the end of the Tribulation (also we don't see those in that invasion who appear to have the mark or fight God). This and other verses show various campaigns which lead up to Armageddon; and perhaps linger on until Christ and His returning saints establish control to rule and reign.

    It seems pretty apparent that with all nations against Israel ( Zech. 12:3) in the end so that mainly they will be reprobate with the dead being as dung on the earth ( Jeremiah 25:33). This is a sobering thought; thankfully in Israel 1/3 make it through the fire but 2/3 die ( Zech. 13:9). Some say this is harsh but compared to the stats from the whole world it isn't
  • Richard H Priday on Zechariah 2 - 6 months ago
    Zechariah 2:1-2 state:

    I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand. Then said I, Whither goest thou? And he said unto me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof.

    These verses seem similar to Revelation 11:1-2 but in this case the city itself is being measured; not just the Temple.

    Verses 3-5 state: And, behold, the angel that talked with me went forth, and another angel went out to meet him,

    And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein: For I, saith the Lord, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her.

    This wall of fire seems to indicate conditions during the Millennium; but there are also some parallels to the conditions before the battle of Gog and Magog as Ezekiel 38:11 states "And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates..." Some question if this is one event or also is indicative of the event at the END of the Millennium in Revelation 20 (or perhaps both).

    Verse 6 through 8 state: Ho, ho, come forth, and flee from the land of the north, saith the Lord: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the Lord. Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon. For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

    This parallels verses such as Isaiah 49:12 "Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim." Starting in verse 9 of that chapter we see captives being released; again likely an event after the Tribulation.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Hey brother S Spencer,

    I know this has been discussed before and we have different understandings, but just have a couple of thoughts to consider, I will not go over all this prophecy just the first of 9:27.

    If I am correct, it is thought the 69th week ended when Jesus' ride into Jerusalem fulfilling Zech. 9:9. Dan. 9:26 says 69 weeks unto the Messiah, should we look over the 3.5 years from when Jesus was baptized and anointed with the Holy Spirit? Look at the multitude that met Him when He rode in, they knew who He was, He came for the lost sheep of Israel.

    The antichrist will make a covenant with Israel. We go to Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: So here we have the last week/7 years and he is said to be the antichrist.

    "He shall confirm the covenant with many", could he in this verse fit Jesus? Psalms 105:8-11 Isaiah 42:6 Isaiah 49:8 Isaiah 49:6 Romans 15:8 Galatians 3:17 Hebrews 13:20 I could list many more. The word confirm does not mean make, it shows us the covenant already existed. Confirm means to strengthen, to be stronger.

    God made a covenant with Abraham and Abraham said God would provide Himself a Lamb, Genesis 22:7-8, was Jesus this Lamb, Isaiah 53:7 John 1:29 Revelation 5:6. This covenant is with many, Zechariah 2:11 Isaiah 53:11 Matthew 20:28 Matthew 26:28 Romans 5:15,19. Jesus was sent to confirm the promise/covenant made unto Abraham, Romans 15:8. Could Jesus be this he?

    "In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" Sacrifice and Oblation, the first word is talking about the daily sacrifices, the Tamid, the morning and evening lamb the same time Jesus was on the cross 9 AM the first to 3 PM the last. Then the second word refers to all of the other offerings presented to the Lord.

    Do you think the sacrifice and oblation was designed by God to completely cease upon the finished work of Jesus on the cross? Hebrews 9.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Pierre1939 - 10 months ago
    S. Spencer there is an element of truth in what you are saying.....There is another Israel coming but they are spirits as Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. the Israel of God.... Isaiah 49:10... and Rev.7:16.....Both say they will not hunger nor thirst ever. ....Nor will the sun or any heat lite on them......How cd this be possible simply b/c they are Spirits.....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is BORN of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. the children of Promise....The Israel of God.... I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven thus spirits the H.G. I WILL POUR OUT OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL FLESH.... The good seed is the living word which is spirit and life thus the fruit the wheat has to be spirit which are the Children of Promise the H.G. That Child of Promise.....But we cannot be carnal minded or we will miss this great truth....There is an Israel of God on the Horizon but they are spirits...They are Our new hearts and new spirits....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth me....Thats y Jesus said the Kingdom cometh not with observation.....Simply b/c they are Spirits the H.G. that is gonna be as the stars of heaven....An Israel of God....Remember 3 rd person Jacob's name was changed to Israel just prophetic that the Heavenly 3 rd person the H.G. IS the ISRAEL OF GOD....That is gonna be born in us sinners....That hear his words his good seeds.....Thats y he has to know us....The New Jerualem is heaveny meaning in the spiritual realm....But its gonna be right here on this earth....Rev.11:15 The kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our Lord and His Christ and he shall reign forever and ever....ok leme go....The manchild which is the H.G. the spirit of truth is gonna reprove this world of Sin and Righteousness and Judgement.....
  • GIGI - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jimbob,

    Romans 9:6-8 "..For not all are not Israel, that are of Israel." Calling out the ethnic Jews as being "uncitizened" so to speak as being genetically of Israel. Paul say, NO they are not all Israel. 2 Cor. 1:20 says "....For all the promises of God find their Yes in Him..." The promises to Abraham are fulfilled in Jesus and Jesus alone fulfills all of the promises of God. God always had His Son in view when making these promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. These were not promises only made to Abraham, but re-promised to Isaac, and to Jacob, and then centuries later to the nation of Israel. So if Jesus is the true and absolute Seed of In Abraham, Isaac AND Jacob (Israel).

    In Isaiah 49:1-7 the servant of the Lord (Messiah) is called "Israel" in whom God will be glorified. Also in this passage this servant is called God will give His servant (Messiah) as a "light to the Gentiles" Here God plainly speaks of the Messiah as Israel. Verse 2 says that God has made His servant's mouth like a sharp sword. This passage refers to God's servant as Israel, a light to the Gentiles, having a mouth like a sharp sword, the Holy One, Redeemer, who will be despised, who the NATION aborrheth.

    In Luke 2:28-32 Simeon prophesies about Jesus when His parents brought Him to the temple. In his prophesying Simeon refers to Isaiah 49:6 as Jesus being the light to the Gentiles. This citation by Luke shows that the "servant, Israel" spoken of in Isaiah 49:1-7 is referring to Jesus. (See also Jn 1:5-11; 8:12.

    So, the ethnic Israelites were a type or shadow pointing to the true Israel, Jesus who fulfilled all the requirements of the Law as a jew. God said several times from heaven, that He was well pleased with Jesus, His Son.

    When we speak of end times events we do need to not weave a narrative that is not stated in the NT Scriptures, as the OT Covenant was ended in Jesus' advent and the New Covenant in Jesus (as Jacob was a nation of one when called by God as Israel....cont.
  • Alex1939 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    GiGi ...Abraham Isaac and Jacob and the 12 tribes followed by the nation of ISRAEL....Is a beautful picture of multiplication and regeneration by God almighty....Just as Abraham offered up his only son so did God Almighty offered up his only son Jesus thus came that Promise of multiplication that Christ who is God wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven....Just as there was a natural Israel there has to be an Israel of God which are spirits as Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirits...As God is spirit the H.G. PLURAL....And i will pour out of my spirit on all flesh....Which is the gift of God to all of humanity at the last trump when the book is opened....We are gonna be married to God making us 1 with God....Thats y Jesus is saying blessed are them that follow me in the regeneration when the Son of man is revealed....Regeneration is multiplication of his seed the word the very seed of God to whom the word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken

    Just as Jacob's name was changed to Israel... the H.G. which is spirit the 3 RD PERSON is the ISRAEL OF GOD as Isaiah 49 tells us...There is truly gonna be an ISRAEL OF God from that good seed of Christ the word an order of Gods is the Israel of God that is gonna be born in everyman Jew or Gentile...By 1 spirit are we all baptised into the body of Christ Jew or Gentile...By the seed of Christ, That Living word ..God will be born in the hearts of everyman at the last trump...

    Only the devil will tell you that man and God will neva be made 1...( There will neva be a marriage making man and God 1 ) I will make a man more precious then Gold...Even the golden wedge of Ophir...Simply b/c mankind is gonna birth a baby Christ the H.G. that Child of Promise...The vert fact that Jesus tells us The Kingdom of God is gona be within us means we are gonna be made 1 with God...impling a marriage to God almighty, i rest my case in Jesus name the bridegroom. impling multiplication TY Jesus.
  • Alex1939 - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 13 - 1 year ago
    Hiya Kathlynn...There is so much to be said about Elohim being a singular God head but 3 distinct beings...And Elohim tells Moses his name is Abraham Issac and Jacob...Which was Father Son and Granson...But this 1 singular God head has to be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Just as Abraham was multiplied as the sands of the seas..That was the great Promise....I God Almighty will multiply thy seed Who's seed ? Christ Seed....The living word...As the stars of heaven And God Almighty swore by his own self That Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven Thats y Jesus said to whom the word ( Gods seed ) came it made them Gods PLURAL And Jesus is God the Son...Thus we see an Israel of God on the Horizon which are spirits the H.G. Plural as the stars of heaven...That are gonna be born in us sinners...Whosoever receveth one such Child in my name receiveth ME...She brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule all nations...Abraham Isaac and Jacob were a perfect picture of 3 distinct Beings BUT the one singular FATHER OF Israel...This Heavenly Israel are gonna be born in us via the seed of Jesus...Thats y Jesus was saying that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit...Which is the H.G. the Children of PROMISE The Israel of God....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...ok lemme go...Its the H.G. That IS THE REAL HEIR and is lord of all....According to Gal 4 :1...But he has to be born in us via the seed of Jesus but he is lord of all thus that Child of Promise the kingdom...We are just a joint heir...But its only the H.G. that heavenly Jacob is the real HEIR...The Israel of God... Isaiah 49 kjv
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    The last generation: Continued.

    There are others who have come up with the theory I am proposing as to Israel becoming more prosperous in particular. One thing is for sure; for the Ezekiel 38 war to commence; Israel is to be a land of "unwalled villages" and feel they are "dwelling securely in their land". For THAT to occur; there needs to be some sort of elimination of the surrounding threat. We at least need to reach a time when a Covenent is confirmed ( Dan. 9:27) which seems likely to be the current Abraham accords once there are finally many nations involved or something similar that Antichrist confirms some day soon. It would seem this war could be the 2nd seal event or thereabouts; but it certainly could be earlier.

    The timing of the Ezekiel 38 war also is questionable. Again; the land dwelling securely could be the first half of the Tribulation.

    The problem is the seven year cleanup effort; it seems this is earlier and or part of a wider campaign before Armageddon. It has been argued the seven years means it "fits into" the seven year Tribulation. Clearly though that WON'T happen then as at the Midpoint the Beast rises up; kills the two prophets then we have the escape run to the mountains as stated in ( Matt. 24:16).

    This will be no time to employ people to go around picking up bones; clearly. The other possibility is that war ALSO is BEFORE the Tribulation begins. The most likely answer from what i can understand is that it roughly corresponds with Armageddon but it is a separate campaign. These nations are NOT mentioned in Armageddon and may not have the Mark of the Beast. Further bolstering that theory is that one sixth are said to survive; those who fight God and have the mark are doomed for destruction.

    These could be in my opinion some of the kings mentioned in Isaiah 49:23 who return the captives.

    At any event; we are certainly close with the Dubai one world religion center being opened sometime this year; and overall apostasy.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 76 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 76. Here we are reminded of God's victory over His enemies and His purpose to save the "meek of the earth" (v. 9). Jesus Himself stated that "the meek shall inherit the earth." ( Matt. 5:5). This would no doubt include the saints who were raptured and the souls of those martyred in the Tribulation as well as the few that survive in hiding.

    Verses 1 and 2 indicate God being known in Israel. This and it being ..." dwelling place" show a future implication here once they realize who their Messiah is and He returns to rule from Jerusalem in the Millennium.

    Verses 3 through 6 remind us of the Exodus with the weapons and animals of warfare mentioned; and the sinking in the Red Sea putting "chariot and horse..." into a "..dead sleep."

    When we continue on to verses 7 through 12 seem to indicate a world wide end times fulfillment. We see the "earth" fearing and still and once again verse 9 shows saving the meek; but we notice it says ALL the meek of the earth.

    Verse 10 reminds us of verses such as Isaiah 49:23; as well as Isaiah 24:22 where we see a restraint followed eventually by final judgment. Verse 11 reminds us of the verse in Zechariah 14:8. There are certain foolish vows that are not to be taken but God expects men to do this as part of worship so in that case serving God is important (see Jonah 1:16).

    The last verse sort of reinforces the idea of God ruling with an iron rod and the earlier theme of verse 10 ( Rev. 19:15; Psalm 2:7-9).
  • T Levis - In Reply on Revelation 3 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 3:7,

    Isaiah 22:21-25, Isaiah 9:6-7, Isaiah 49:22,

    James 1:5,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 68 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 68.

    Messianic and prophetic in nature; Psalm 68 is full of references to the destruction of the armies of the earth and the restoration of Israel and God's Covenant people along with the world at large eventually coming to worship the true and living God.

    2 Thessalonians 1:8 discuss the Lord returning in vengeance with flaming fire; and this verse is hardly isolated in the scriptures; as we see finally occurring in Revelation 19. That pretty much sums up the first 2 verses of this Psalm.

    The rest of the first half of the Psalm through verse 17 focuses on the deliverance of God; with the personal view of families (widows and fatherless) being represented in verse 5 and 6; where captives are also said to be released. These verses and their themes are repeated in Isaiah 42 as well as Isaiah 49. Taken literally; it would seem that there will be a final Exodus in volving children especially; which occurs during the Tribulation for slave purposes which will end abruptly at the return of the Lord. There will clearly be many widows of those who survive until the Millennium which will have children returned in some cases by royalty; who will basically bow down in the dust and act as foster parents. Verse 18 seems to bolser this idea with worship of the Lord in the Temple which finally fulfills its role to be "a place of prayer for all nations" ( Isaiah 56:7 also quoted by Jesus in the N.T. Gospels). Even MORE support is given in verses 29-32 for this concept.

    These verses and many others sadly are often taken as symbolic language which takes much of the impact out of the passages. There needs; of course to be some latitude when we observe symbolism within a text of literal descriptions as to interpretation but hopefully the joy and awe of God's Providence won't be unnecessarily watered down because it seems to go against some sort of specific doctrinal stance. Let us be as Bereans searching the Scriptures daily and dividing rightly.

    Agape. Rich P.
  • Anonymous - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Anonymous Alex N....Hiya Bplumley...Gbu...But that Crown is just symbolic of the Kingdom....An incorruptible kingdom....That New Covenant is gonna make us kings and Priests....Thus there has to be a heavenly birth via Jesus seed ...As Isaiah is saying Kings shall be your nursing fathers and their Queens are gonna be your nursing mothers Isaiah 49:23...Thus there is a child an infant in our future....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...But these things are hid from the wise and prudent and revealed unto Babes and sucklings ...Which is the H.G. that Children of Promise....The Kingdom

    .....Thats y the spirit of truth cannot speak of him self for a season....He has to be born in us via the seed of Jesus thus he is just an spiritual infant...And infants cannot speak for a while...But this Child is the real heir and he is lord of all but is under governors and tutors for a season...Till the time appointed of the father...Gal.4:1 kjv....Remember Jeremiah said he cd not speak for i am just a child etc...ok lemme go
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 12 - 1 year ago
    We are reminded of James once again in regard to the tongue and how dangerous it can be. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways ( James 1:8

    There are also prophetic overtones once again; such as the character of the Antichrist in Dan. 11:32. We also see in the first verse that godly and faithful man fails and ceases. That reminds us of what happens when the restrainer is removed in 2 Thess. 2:6. Verse 4 seems to show a world thinking that they are without leadership (small lord). The verse about silver tried in a furnace of earth; purified seven times reminds us of the seven year Tribulation as well as the concept in Leviticus 26:18 for God's people.

    Verse 7 shows preservation from this (possibly the last) generation. That could indicate a deliverance FROM the wicked; or THROUGH the Tribulation when the wicked reach their apex.

    God knows how to preserve His children as we see the concept in 2 Peter 2:9 (also translated dtemptations) also it is clearer in Romans 1:16-17 where we are kept from the "wrath to come." Verse 5 reminds us that as Christ said "the poor will always be among you." ( Matt. 26:11). It appears that children will be restored according to Isaiah 49:25 as well as literal releasing of prisoners in Isaiah 51:14; although other verses can be applied to Christ freeing us from the prison of sin such as Isaiah 61:1-2 quoted by Christ.

    These verses could have been penned by David with some of his own personal situation on his mind at least; but these broad promises certainly go beyond just being applied to David's situation as the Spirit inspired these passages in Psalms as in all scipture.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 10 - 1 year ago
    There is a sort of universal theme in this Psalm about asking where God is; as can be applied to David's life but more likely referring to times of exile. It also has overtones with the end times.

    The verse about not being moved (v. 6) along with the statement "I shall never be in adversity" surely reminds us of Revelation 18:7; as well as with Jeremiah 5:12 and the false prophets.

    Verse 11 reminds us as well of other passages when man reasons that God won't see what is going on (see Isaiah 49:14). Finally; verse 15 is also related to the Antichrist; as see in Zechariah 11:17 on the foolish shepherd along with; of course Revelation 13:3.

    Verse 16 to 18 shows how wicked are removed; he meek inherit the earth; and God remembers the fatherless and oppressed (v. 18). Verse 12 to 14 further illustrate how God does provide for the needs of the poor and fatherless. (see Matthew 5:5).

    All the concern about the poor being hunted down in verses 6 through 11 may be a reflection of David's humble beginnings and sufferings early on; that allowed compassion in his heart.

    These scriptures; of course also are words the Spirit of God is speaking through David and is an encouragement to us and the glorious future for His people.
  • Alex N - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Lemme mention something while i am thinking about it bout our Salvation....By his stripes we are gonna be healed....Why was he beaten simply b/c it was prophetic of multiplication....When seeds are beaten they multiply faster and give a bigger crop....His CROP are Gods as he says to whom the word came his seeds it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken....Thats y Zech. is saying smite the shephard ( his stripes ) and the sheep will be scattered... Zech 13:7 Then i will turn my hand to the little ones....little ones is indicative of Multiplication ....I will turn my hand to the little ones....Take heed that you do not dispise one of these little ones....The Babes and sucklings are his fruit...An ISRAEL OF GOD OUR NEW INNERMAN THE H.G.....Remember the Woman will be healed in Child birth...Tim 2:15...which is the New Birth that produces a New Innerman the H.G. That Child of PROMISE...Thats y the scrip.is saying by his stripes we are healed....The very Kingdom of God is in this Child the H.G...Unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child .You will in no wise enter there in....Remember Jesus told the Greeks unless a seed falls into the ground and dies it abides alone...There wd have been only 1 Christ but b/c of his death he will be multiplied as the stars of heaven in multitudes thru his seed his offspring which are spirits....I will pour out of my spirit on all flesh....Thats that number that noman can number.... Rev 7:9 KJV ..Of all nations....Simply b/c when seed dies it multiplies....I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven...And God swore by his very self when he made this PROMISE...Thus there is a Baby Christ in our near future...Which is that Child of Promise the H.G....I WILL TURN MY HAND TO THE LIL ONES.. The Babes and sucklings our new innerman, our new heart and new spirit is a living being...The Granson the 3 rd person....An Israel of God...Remember Isaiah 49 is telling us about a heavenly Jacob that is coming the last day... TY Jesus
  • Alex N - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Giannis....Let me try to help you in Jesus Name..The name of the Kingdom is CHILD BIRTH....Uness ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....And that Child of PROMISE is the H.G....Thus there is only 1 baptism of PROMISE...Only 1 is needed ...Thats y he has to KNOW US thats when his good seed is sown in our hearts....Resulting in a spritual birth...Remember she brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule all nations....Which is that spirit of truth Jesus spoke of that cannot speak, simply b/c he is an spritual infant...A new Born .The spirit ( the H.G. ) has to be born in us via his Seed ...his Words etc....Thats y he said that which is born of the SPIRIT IS SPIRIT which is the H.G the Children of Promise....There has to be an Israel of God...Born in us and they are spirits...Thats y the sun nor any heat or the moon can lite on them simply b/c they are spirits...Read Isaiah 49 kjv.

    .....But back in John 20:22 And John 16 :21..He had already breathe on them, as his breath was his WORDS which are his SEEDS and Faith set in which is a spritual pregnancy..They had the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen..The Child the H.G. That Child of PROMISE....That resulted from his seeds his words....But the H.G. Child had not been born just yet till that mighty rushing Wind came..They had to go thru a gestation period b/4 the Child came and with Power....But Jesus said John baptised you with water but I will baptise you with the H.G. and fire...As our God is a consuming fire...When Jesus started his ministry he was preaching I come to bring FIRE on the earth...Thats his baptism of the H.G. That we so need..The 1 and only baptism of PROMISE..Which was the multiplication of God from Gods own Promise when he swore by himself.

    .....Jesus in Acts 1:4 Wait for the Promise of my Father that you have HEARD OF ME ( SEED)...John baptised you with water but you will be baptised with the H.G. NOT MANY DAYS HENCE ...Baby
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 10:11 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 10: Concluding thoughts

    Therefore; there is no more holding back judgment (See Jeremiah 15:1 for example). The "plumbline" is drawn ( Amos 7:7-9).

    There is a distinct time frame where God says "enough" and Christ is set free with the righteous angels to procure judgment.

    We see in the following chapters that in fact He uses Satan by giving him what he always wanted; control over the entire world.

    Geographically; he doesn't gain all the territory; but surely with technology and his minions can enforce his mark worldwide through the 10 nations or regional confederacy that rule with him for "one hour". ( Rev. 17:12). It is an interesting sidenote; which I pointed out before about some who fight in the Ezekiel 38 war AGAINST Antichrist. Since one sixth survive it is possible that they did NOT recieve the mark of the Beast and have a chance at surviving into othe Millenium. In Isaiah 49:23 we see kings and queens being "nursing fathers" and mothers as it were (part of that obviously symbolic). In Jeremiah 31:16-17 we see further confirmation of this. This isn't the main point of the passage; but it shows how God may use captivity and even kidnapping to ultimately preserve the lives of children into the Millennium; the alternative being killed in Israel by Antichrist.

    We need to see several larger themes here. God is using all this so that FINALLY as Christ is returning the nation will repent; and that in weeping. (see Zechariah 12:12). It seems hard to believe that the nations get it in regard to Christ and God in the sixth seal; and Israel remains blind that long. Romans 11:25 sheds some light on this; in regard to the "fullness of the Gentiles" which could be indicative of the Church Age ending; complete with the Rapture/Resurrections discussed previously.

    Altogether; He uses Satan's own planning to draw men to the snare and trap of Armageddon where things come to a swift conclusion. No more delay can occur or no flesh would live ( Matt. 24:22
  • Alex N - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hiya Grae luv ya....And Jesus was not his own Father but he was the father of the H.G....The very fact that we have a Father and a son begs the Question of a Granson a heavenly Jacob that Isaiah mentions in Isaiah 49....An Israel of God

    ....And the very fact that they call Jesus the bridegroom implies heavenly Children....Gods the H.G. Plural as the Stars of Heaven

    But the scriptures says Hebrews 1:8....But unto the SON he says thy throne O GOD is forever and ever...A sceptre of righteounsess is the septre of thy Kingdom...

    ......Even in the natural a bridegroom always becomes a Father and the Children always becomes fathers....Everything has to multiply after its Kind....Even the H.G. which is the Child of Promise wants to regenerate himself in ppl....Washing us with his Word..... Titus 3:5 kjv....Multiplication of Christ Seed was that great Promise.

    ......Remember Jesus said blessed are them that follow me in the REGENERATION when the son of man is revealed ....Which is when he will go forth and sow his seed in humanity the contents of the book that he finished with his own blood...That New Covenant....Bringing forth the sons of God in Humanity

    When he said all mine is thine and all thine is mine proves he is equal to his FATHER and he thought it not Robbery to be equal to God his FATHER....But the law said we must honor our fathers thus he gave all honor to his father....Saying my Father is greater then i.....But even in the natural a son always becomes equal to his father and we fathers loves it so.

    Even in the natural there is not 1 man who wants to see his son inferior to him....We want our sons to become equal to us....No man wants an inferior son....This is my beloveth son in whom i am well pleased...Jesus was God the son or his father was not God the father...period...ok lemme go
  • Alex N - In Reply - 1 year ago
    PROPHECY.....GBU For this timely Message....You are so right the manchild is our fruit unto God...The H.G....The result of the sower and his seed the words of God...That NEW BORN babe desiring the sincere milk of the word is the H.G...As Jesus said that which is BORN of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G.....Our new innerman....our new heart and new spirit...Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed the words of that New Covenant....The contents of that book that he wrote with his own blood.

    .....Unless ya receive the KINGDOM of God as a lil Child you will in NO wise enter there in....Plz note the Kingdom of God does not come till the woman ( the world ) the bride births the Child the H.G...The Child of Promise....Yes indeed We are gonna see ALL men in travail and birth pains....Simply b/c of the Sower and his seed the contents of that Book...The New Covenant in his blood....The WORDS of WONDER that Daniel saw in Daniel 12:6 KJV. The Book ...Men and Woman are gonna birth a baby Christ which is the H.G..... Isaiah 49:23 kjv...Kings shall be your nursing Fathers and their Queens your nursing mothers etc...We are gonna have a baby Christ which is the H.G. As that which is BORN of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. Emanuel....Ya gotta realize that the Sower of the good seed is the Bridegroom thus the wheat is the H.G. a Baby Christ...The Kingdom....Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child...You will in no wise enter there in....This is how we know without a doubt that Jesus is truly God the Son....He reproduces after the God kind Spirits the H.G.is God....When he breathe on them he was reproducing very God with his breath which was his WORDS his Seeds....Thats y he told them b/c i have spoken these words sorrows have filled your hearts....Then he tells them of a Woman in travail and birth pains... John 16 ...B/C of his words/seeds but the Child didn't come till 50 day later at Pentacost th H.G. was born in them the Child of Promise...Behold the Promise.
  • Alex N - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Chris Its Exodus 3 : 15....God is telling Moses that Abraham Issac and Jacob is my name for ever and my memorial to all Generations....The reason God is telling Moses this is simply b/c there is gonna be an ISRAEL OF GOD....As Gal 6 : 16 tells us.

    ......And this Israel of God is the very kingdom of GOD in humanity.....Remember Natural Israel became as the sands of the seas in multitude....But this Israel of God ( THE MULTIPLICATION OF Christ Seed ) is gonna be as the STARS OF HEAVEN...Thus there is gonna be a heavenly Abraham Issac and Jacob and a heavenly Israel which are spirits the H.G. as the stars of heaven....Thats what Isaiah 49 is trying to tell us....There is a heavenly Israel coming...Thus his name is truly Abraham Issac and Jacob.

    ......The very reason God wants to multiply Christ in humanity as the stars of heaven...Is that there might be an Israel of God.

    ...A perfect Israel that cannot sin and Praise him perfectly...Outta of the mouths of babes and suckling thou has perfected Praise....Which are Spirits the H.G. many that are gonna be born in us sinners.

    ......A lil one shall become a 1000 and a small one a strong Nation...I the Lord will hasten it in its time...This is that heavenly Israel a heavenly Nation...The H.G...Whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me.
  • Giannis - 1 year ago
    Isaiah 49:15

    "But Zion (nowdays all of us) said, The LORD hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.

    Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.

    Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls (and your lives) are continually before me."

    Be encouraged. If God is with us who can be against us? ( Rom 8:31)

    Have a blessed weekend.
  • Alex N - In Reply on 1 Peter 1 - 1 year ago
    Martha let me give ya my take on Spirits...The Father and the son are one but 2 distinct beings....Like in the natural the father is greater then his son....But in time the Son becomes equal to his father...And the Father loves it so....He thought it not robbery to be equal to his Father..But he does say that my Father is greater then I...Only the Son died, not his father so they are 2 disctinct beings but both God....When David said the Lord said unto my Lord sit thou at my right hand till i make your enemies your footstool....That 1 lil Scripture proves 2 distinct beings...Both God...This Father and Son relationship begs the Question of a Granson (a heavenly Jacob) and equally important an Israel of God that is gonna be as the stars of heaven in multitiude....Just as Natural Israel was multiplied as the Sands of the Seas...The Israel of GOD is gona be multiplied as the stars of heaven ...Which are spirits ...But these things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto Babes...The H.G. the Granson...That which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. The Granson....That Heavenly Jacob as in Isaiah 49

    .....Without this Abrahamic Trinity....Father, Son and Granson scenario....There cd not have been the 12 tribes....That resulted in the nation of Israel...Like wise in the spiritual realm there has to be an Israel of God....There has to be a perfect Israel....Be ye PERFECT as your father in heaven is PERFECT....Thats y Jesus will go forth to sow his PERFECT seed in humanity....Which are Spirits, The contents of that BOOK..in the fathers right hand...That New Covenant...Which will result in the BABES and SUCKLINGS...The Gransons ...Which are Spirits the H.G...Many as the stars of Heaven...Which answers to our New hearts and new Spirits...an Israel of God...That cannot sin simply b/c they are born of God via that good seed of Christ Jesus....That was the Great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of Heaven..We be the woman in birth pains.
  • Alex N - In Reply on Psalms 97 - 1 year ago
    When Isaiah said Kings shall be your nursing fathers and Queens shall be your nursing mothers thats folks that have been impregnated by his GOOD SEED and birth a baby Christ the Child of Promise.... Isaiah 49 : 23

    ......Kings and Queens are just symbolic language for men and women...that have heard his voice, his good seed and birth a Baby Christ...Which is the H.G. that Children of Promise Thats y he always refers to himself as the Son of man.

    .....Thats y he says whosoever receives one such child in my name receives me...The Kingdom...Who is my Mother Jesus asked ,...Then he says them that hear my Words and keeps them...Initiating a heavenly Birth of Christ in us...Men and women are gonna be his mother....Simply b/c we are all gonna birth a Baby Christ....And he is gonna be every ones son...Thats y he always refers to himself as the SON of Man...Which is mankinds fruit unto God....ok
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Gail. Just as a quick background first: Isaiah chapters 49 to 57 are chapters which speak of the coming salvation through God's Servant-Messiah. As much as we see that Israel is spoken of, the intent of the message therein, is to show that it would only be through Israel that their Messiah would be revealed. We know that Israel as a nation always failed God in many ways, but God had not forsaken her, for through her would the Salvation of Israel & the World come. Many Jews (though not all) have recognized that the Messiah is spoken of here in Isaiah, particularly when you get to Isaiah 52:13 to Isaiah 53:1-12, but when the Messiah did come to them, they failed to recognize Him & killed Him. But death could not hold Him: His apostles would be spiritually energized to take the Good News to the world, especially the latterly converted Saul, that the World may have a chance to hear & receive God's Plan for forgiveness & redemption.

    So when the Apostle Paul refers to Isaiah 49:8, he understood the general principle in Isaiah that the Messiah God would be willing to hear their cries for help - that His Mercy would come to Israel, as well to the Gentiles. And though Israel couldn't perceive who this Messiah would be, it was God Himself (the Redeemer of Israel: v7) through His Son, that would bring about a full salvation for all. So Paul could say, "that God was in Christ (the Messiah God), reconciling the world unto himself..."( 2 Corinthians 5:19) and begging the Corinthian believers that "ye receive not the grace of God in vain"; since Isaiah himself prophesied that God's day of salvation had now come & you Corinthians were blessed to receive it ( 2 Corinthians 6:1,2). Therefore, they should accept Paul's work on their behalf & to refuse sin, not allowing it into their lives & the Church, knowing, "the terror of the Lord" against all doers of evil ( 2 Corinthians 5:11; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18).
  • Gail Smith - 1 year ago
    How is Paul using the words in Isaiah 49:8 in 2 corinthians 6:2
  • Streetpreacher - In Reply on Isaiah 49 - 1 year ago
    Type Isaiah 49 into Google like this:

    Isaiah 49, Commentaries, or

    Teaching, or History

    I personally choose links that have the word, BIBLE in them. i.e. BibleRef, BibleHub, etc.

    You will get the Bible explanation without church doctrines.
  • Rubbla Patton on Isaiah 49 - 1 year ago
    Are there translation of Isaiah 49 that is more clearer?
  • Ronnette Part 13 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Isaiah 65:13

    Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed:

    Isaiah 66:5

    Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.

    Isaiah 54:4

    Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.

    Isaiah 49:23

    And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.

    Ezra 8:22

    For I was ashamed to require of the king a band of soldiers and horsemen to help us against the enemy in the way: because we had spoken unto the king, saying, The hand of our God is upon all them for good that seek him; but his power and his wrath is against all them that forsake him.

    Ezekiel 32:30

    There be the princes of the north, all of them, and all the Zidonians, which are gone down with the slain; with their terror they are ashamed of their might; and they lie uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword, and bear their shame with them that go down to the pit.

    Ezekiel 43:11

    And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Bev. Psalm 139:14 in the KJV does show what you're looking for. And you could add verse 17 to verse 14.

    Other possible Scriptures to consider: Isaiah 49:16; Proverbs 3:5,6.
  • Alex N - 1 year ago
    This scripture Isaiah 49 : 23....Speaks of infants that are gonna be born n us via the seed of Christ ...Kings shall be your nursing fathers and Queens shall be your nursing mothers they shall lick up the dust of your feet ...Kings and Queens are just Prophetic language of men and women that are gonna birth a baby An infant Christ which is the H.G. that Child of Promise till he is of age ..Thus he is that infant that cannot speak of himself.... Gal 4 : 1 now i say unto you that the heir as lone as he is a Child differs nothin from a servent tho he be LORD OF ALL But is under governors and tutors till the time appointed of the FATHER...That Child that is lord of all is the H.G. that is gona be born in us...But in that he is an infant he cannot speak of himself ...As even in the natural infants cannot speak....Thats y Jesus is saying these things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes...The infants that cannot speak....But he is the true heir...Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a LIL Child you will in no wise enter there in....Thats y the new birth is so important....ok...There is a baby Christ in our future which is the H.G. that CHILD OF PROMISE....And he it is that is gonna lead us into all truth.....The kingdom does not come till the woman gives birth Rev 12 : 5 kjv....


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