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  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 months ago
    Thedorse,

    So true, and I agree with much that you said.

    Today, and foe many years now, Preachers don't preach and acknowledge the truth about sin, and everlasting hell, and they are leading their congregations straight down the wide path to hell! Matthew 25:41 James 3:1

    We MUST fear God! This is the very beginning of knowledge. Proverbs 1:7

    God is Vengeful and He tells us so. Hell is God's way of getting His vengeance. Isaiah 47:3

    God knows us better than we could ever imagine. He knows, that if we have NO FEAR to motivate us to change our ways, we will continue in sin. God is also Love. He sacrificed his Son for us so thru Him we can recieved forgivness. He provides His Holy Spirit to break the bonds of sin. Preachers are not helping anyone by not preaching Hell and the fear of God!

    If we are still repeatedly sinning..we DO NOT have God's Holy Spirit. Hebrews 10:26 God's Holy Spirit will not let us habitually sin.

    Today, most so called Christian Pastors/Preachers are about the money. They don't want to focus on the sin in their congregation, if they do, they will lose their entire congregation. Sinners don't want to hear they are sinners, and they certainly don't want to think or hear about hell, they come to church to feel good about themselves and to be entertained. Churches today are all about making everyone feel good. Sad but true.

    Which reminds me of this very powerful verse 2 Timothy 4:3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"

    The plain truth is: Sin keeps us from our God!

    GBU
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    One Eighty,

    Part 5

    We need to make a distinction from using the word "flesh" to denote biological flesh (our body, bones, blood, tissues, organs,

    etc.), "flesh" meaning mortal mankind in general, and "flesh" meaning our sinful nature. When Adam and Eve were created all

    of these forms of flesh were created good, without corruption. Man was made of biological materials, but also have spiritual and

    soulful components which was uncorrupted, too. So, Scripture shows us that humans can be both fleshly and spiritual and be

    good, but this was only before the fall of Adam and Eve. Angels do not have a fleshly biological nature like us. They are only

    spiritual beings, but can be corrupted, as Satan and the fallen angels show us clearly. So, your deduction that Mankind needs to



    be either fleshly or spiritual and not both is incorrect.

    You also stated along the lines that "shouldn't anything that comes from God be exactly like Him when it comes to character,

    Who or What God Is?" I will definitely say "no" to that query, because rocks, planets, energy are not exactly like God, nor are

    angels and humans and animals created exactly like God. Even we can tell that animals, humans and angels are not exactly the

    same either. God intended to make a vast innumerably diverse creation that was not exactly like Him. he never intended to

    replicate Himself, because He cannot do that. It is impossible for God to create any creature exactly like Himself because He was

    never created. The fact that this newly created creature was created by God shows that the two are not exactly similar to one

    another. And if it was possible, then God would have created something beside Himself that was God and these beings could

    then go on and create others like themselves leaving creation with an infinite number of gods. The Bible clearly states that God

    is the only God that exists and none came before Him and none will be made after Him. ( Isaiah 47:8).
  • Anonymous - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Giannis,

    Prophesy is unfolding rapidly, it never stopped and can be identified. Acquaint yourself with the prophets, what Jesus says in Matthew 24 and Luke 17. The prophets were shown our future, and this coming sixth trumpet, day of the Lord, scared them deeply, Ezekiel 21:7, Isaiah 13:8-9.

    Christian's aren't scared because they weren't taught the proper tenants of the Bible, they think God will unconditionally protect them, no matter how badly their elected leaders behave. Will America will always sit a queen? Isaiah 47:7-11

    The Bible is limited in its 1-4 trumpet descriptions. It is the last 3 end-time trumpets, 5, 6 & 7, that matter for this "last generation" (according to the signs). Half of Revelation 9 is dedicated to the fifth trumpet, the other half to the sixth trumpet. The sixth trumpet army smashes the fifth trumpet army to dust!!! Esau smashes Jacob, Obadiah 1. The king of the north smashes the king of the south, Daniel 11:40. The sixth trumpet is about one third of end-time prophesy; there's much written about it, enough for you to see prophesy unfolding in our time. Not many see what they read, let alone admit God is against backsliding America, Ezekiel 21:12.

    Here's a big prophesy come to light in our time, but I don't expect it to fit in someone else's narrative:

    Revelation 9:1-11 was 9-11-01, America is the fifth trumpet army, running a 20 year war on terror.

    Revelation 9:4 America killed those men who did not have the seal of God in their foreheads (Muslims), and were told not to harm any green tree, and nothing green grows in the desert.

    Revelation 9:6 The Muslims who were tortured at Abu Ghraib prison were seeking death, and couldn't find it.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Sorcery : 1Samuel 15:23, 2Chronicles 33:6, Galatians 5:19-21, Isaiah 47:9-15, Isaiah 57:3-21, Malachi 3:5, Acts 8:9-24, Acts 13:6-8, Revelation 9:20,21, Revelation 18:23,24, Revelation 21:7,8, Revelation 22:12-15, read all in context

    I guess it can be described as simple opposition to GOD, "rebellion is as witchcraft " leading into much worse.

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Aaron - In Reply - 2 years ago
    The End of Days,

    It took you longer to see the tidings, but you are coming around. Before, and for the past year, you denied what you now are saying to be truth. That goes to say that only God can show you the way, when your time comes.

    God says the day of the Lord attack is "UPON MY PEOPLE". Ezekiel 21:12 God calls the northern tribes "Israel", the lower 3 tribes, "Judah" America, from its origin, is a co-birthright tribe, son of Joseph, Genesis 48 The same attack is also portrayed against Mystery Babylon, so if you are weighing the end-time narrative out, you'll see that Mystery Babylon (and it's allies) = Israel = America. Judah is invaded, Joel 3:1, at the same time America falls.

    America was envisioned as a shining star for the nations, but its star has fallen. The woman, America, became a whore, unrighteous, fomenting modern day Sodom and Gomorrah, the antithesis of what God intended. Therefore, God brings forth Russia to destroy them, Isaiah 47 This coming attack is similar to when Assyria took "Israel" captives in 721 BC, or "Judah" being taken by Nebuchadnezzar in 604 BC.

    Noah escaped the flood in a boat, Lott was rescued from Sodom and Gomorrah, the Israelites in Egypt covered their doorways from death. It is America that the beast Russia destroys within 1 hour, and the only cure is to leave. You have been warned to not partake in her plagues, Revelation 18:4, you have choice. The next big event is Revelation 6:14, the "scroll". If you know what's coming afterwards, it's up to you to prepare an exit.
  • Roman - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alex,

    Daniel 12:1 is talking about the day of the Lord, the 6th trumpet strike, the fall of Babylon, the abomination of desolation, the great tribulation. The world will turn into a curse.

    Ezekiel 38 talks of two clouds to cover the land. Ezekiel 21:19-20 talks about attacking 2 nations from one land. These two lands represent America and Israel, both houses of Israel, Gods people.

    Ezekiel 21 has several depictions of Israel, "my people" vs 12 as being the subject of the slaughter.

    The attack is against America, Israel and every nation allied with America. Isaiah 24:20 states the earth will be hit so hard that it will be knocked of its axis, the sun and moon will refuse to shine 1/3rd the day as a result.

    Who will stop Russia besides nobody, Rev 13:3; they have God on their side. Isaiah 13:1-6, they come from a far country, "even the Lord with them". Joel 2:11, the Lord uttered His voice before "His army". God is preparing the sixth trumpet army (Russia) to annihilate the fifth trumpet army (US) to dust, Revelation 9.

    Nothing like reading about it in real time, just as the little horn Daniel 7:8 starts to make his move.

    Day of the Lord: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Jeremiah 50 & 51, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 18 & Luke 21:20-24 (Israel's fall in same hour).
  • Roman - In Reply on Revelation 17 - 2 years ago
    Isaiah 47:11 Babylon's sudden destruction will not be put off.
  • Cecil - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Chris,

    I study in with wonderment, no fear, but I know what you mean.

    The judgment is against Babylon, and the rest of the world, but specifically 2 lands. The world past the 6th trumpet will be a curse.

    When America receives the abomination of desolation ( Isaiah 13, Isaiah 47, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 18), Israel is invaded at the earthquake ( Revelation 6:12) and taken.

    Ezekiel prophetically gives the blueprint that 2 lands, both houses of Israel (Israel & Judah) are to be attacked by Gog, Esau, king of the north, Russia, and soundly taken.

    ( Ezekiel 21:19-20)

    19 Also, thou son of man, appoint thee two ways, that the sword of the king of Babylon may come: both twain shall come forth out of one land: and choose thou a place, choose it at the head of the way to the city.

    20 Appoint a way, that the sword may come to Rabbath of the Ammonites, and to Judah in Jerusalem the defenced.



    Anti-christ rules everything. He rebuilds the temple in Jerusalem where he claims to be God. Jesus said, "Israel will be trodden underfoot 42 months by the Gentiles."

    ( Luke 21:24) And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

    ( Ezekiel 21:12) Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh.

    "smite upon thy thigh" is a reference to Jacob receiving a wound in the 'hollow of his thigh' after wrestling the angel for the birthright. It coincides with the end-times because the great tribulation (6th trumpet) is referred to as Jacob's time of trouble. America is co-lead for the house of Israel. The Ashkenazim (Japheth) in Israel represent Judah ( Gen 10:2-3).

    Prepare for the 6th trumpet, judgment day. God's people are in trouble.
  • Cecil - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Chris & GiGi,

    You are missing the point of the narrative, the sixth trumpet, the day of the lord, judgment day when both houses of Israel experience Jacobs time of trouble. Spend some time with Isaiah 47, see how America is described, told to sit in the dirt, in darkness.

    You said Israel will be "preserved". Israel will be invaded and taken into a third captivity at the day of the lord ( Luke 21:20-24). America will be nowhere to be found to save Israel, they received their part in the abomination of desolation in the same hour, spoken of by Daniel. Antichrist rules all strong holds for 42 months, at which time Christ returns to take the kingdom. It is at this point and only at this point that Israel is reestablished, Isaiah 14:2, with the resurrected saints, and only the saints.
  • Dr. Lyle Lee on Isaiah 47 - 2 years ago
    Isaiah 47:7-9 these few versus are all about the Lord Jesus Christ and the day he would be killed by his wife, God married Israel as his wife, and they said in their heart I shall never be a widow, the reason is my husband can never die. But God said to the mother of harlots from Revelation 18:7 and through the prophet Isaiah two things will happen to you in one day. The day you kill your husband the Lord Jesus Christ, you shall become a widow, in that day you shall know the loss of Children, for their boast was that they could never have loss of children because God promised Abraham, his seed would be like the sand of the sea and the stars of heaven. Yet when the Lord Jesus died, in that died Israel stopped producing children for God through a genealogy, now you must be born again to become a child of God and Israel rejects that truth, therefore have they become a widow and childless, in one day.
  • ASTROLOGY IS A DEATH SENTENCE FOR THOSE WHO PRACTISE - In Reply on Jeremiah 32 - 2 years ago
    Astrology

    Your word Zodiac is not in the KJV BIBLE. However the study of Zodiac is Astrology. It is a religion; NOT a science. The penalty for practicing and misleading others, is DEATH.

    Daniel 2:10 | View whole chapter

    The Chaldeans answered before the king, and said, There is not a man upon the earth that can shew the king's matter: therefore there is no king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean.

    "( Dan. 1:20; 2:2, 10, 27, etc.) Heb. ashshaph', an enchanter," one who professes to divine future events by the appearance of the stars. This science flourished among the CHALDEANS. It was positively forbidden to the Jews ( Deut. 4:19; 18:10; Isa. 47:13).

    Isaiah 47

    11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.

    12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.

    13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the ASTROLOGERS, the STARGAZERS, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

    14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

    The book of Enoch is all about the Chaldeans. Worshippers of dark arts and are an abomination to a Holy God! So do a search of all the scriptures on the word CHALDEAN, in the KJV BIBLE. Use the SEARCH BOX engine on this website.

    I WAS an astrologer. I was saved on Yom Kippur, 1985. I had to fight demons as a baby Christian. Run from this! Jesus is your only hope to live.
  • Jason - In Reply - 2 years ago
    How is it possible that Jesus returns before anti-christ completes his 42 months of rule, between the 6th & 7th trumpets? Unless you are talking about 6th trumpet Jesus, who 'comes like a thief' to install the abomination of desolation on the whole house of Israel, you are mistaken. God comes with anti-christ's army ( Ezekiel 38:4) to destroy Babylon and put the world in great tribulation.

    The Jesus you are looking for is the 7th trumpet Jesus, standing on the hill with His 144 thousand saints. I have been telling you this for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, but you refuse to take instruction. Study the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord ( Isaiah 13, Isaiah 47, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 18) as we are approaching our visitation.
  • Mishael - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Your word Zodiac is not in the KJV BIBLE. However the study of Zodiac is Astrology. It is a religion; NOT a science. The penalty for practicing and misleading others, is DEATH.

    Daniel 2:10 | View whole chapter

    The Chaldeans answered before the king, and said, There is not a man upon the earth that can shew the king's matter: therefore there is no king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean.

    "( Dan. 1:20; 2:2, 10, 27, etc.) Heb. ashshaph', an enchanter," one who professes to divine future events by the appearance of the stars. This science flourished among the CHALDEANS. It was positively forbidden to the Jews ( Deut. 4:19; 18:10; Isa. 47:13).

    Isaiah 47

    11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.

    12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.

    13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the ASTROLOGERS, the STARGAZERS, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

    14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

    The book of Enoch is all about the Chaldeans. Worshippers of dark arts and are an abomination to a Holy God! So do a search of all the scriptures on the word CHALDEAN, in the KJV BIBLE. Use the SEARCH BOX engine on this website.

    I WAS an astrologer. I was saved on Yom Kippur, 1985. I had to fight demons as a baby Christian. Run from this! Jesus is your only hope to live.
  • Sacha - In Reply on Isaiah 43:18 - 2 years ago
    Reply on Isaiah 47:18 Gods word is the treasure for the heart to build on for the Kingdom of Heaven, it is eternal truth.
  • Robert Necomb on Revelation 18 - 2 years ago
    Look how these 2 end-time scriptures intertwine, like most all can. The description of Babylon sounds like a familiar nation, arrogant nation. The plagues initiate from the attack, and result in uncontrollable, open air, perpetuating diseases. Dead, burnt, rotting bodies will be a problem.

    ( Revelation 18:7) How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

    ( Isaiah 47:9) But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.

    ( Revelation 18:8) Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
  • Richard Estrada - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Ronald L Whittemore,

    There is a literal Beast & Babylon established in our time, they are two kings, and you should know who they are before one spoils the other. You will know them by their fruit. You haven't thought Revelation out in modern day terms, symbolism throws you off. It will be much easier to place the abomination of desolation in America ( Isaiah 47) while simultaneously, Israel suffers ( Revelation 6:12) and invaded from all sides by the beast army ( Ezekiel 38:1-17). Science can create earthquakes, like HAARP. How else is anti-christ going to do what Napoleon and Hitler couldn't do?

    satan cast down from heaven? Didn't Jesus say satan was the god of this world? Jesus returns to take control of all kingdoms from satan, right? So, how is satan thrown to earth when it is already his domain? Isn't that allegory? Doesn't the Letter lets ( Joel 2) satan lets Jesus (day of the Lord) lets the beast take Babylon with violence?

    Let's be honest, If I was posting as Jesus, and tore down every ill conceived doctrine you held dear, would you take heed, or would you curse me for insulting your brand of Christianity?
  • Richard Estrada - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Ronald L Whittemore,

    Don't be afraid to voice your opinion about what has not yet happened. Most of us have read it hundreds of times without knowing the answers are staring back at us. We have clews about who the beast & Babylon are, we claim these are the end times, but we can't identify these 2 end time powers? Nothing wrong with trying to understand the mystery. I will throw my hat in on what I think about daily.

    The beast = Russia, China, India, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Sudan, Libya, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt.

    Mystery Babylon = US; Babylon merchants: Canada, UK, Europe, Israel, Japan, Australia

    ( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18) is US's fate as Mystery Babylon

    ( 2 Thessalonians 2:4) the beast sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    The US has fallen therefore Israel was easily invaded and taken captives. ( Luke 21:20-24)
  • Richard Estrada - In Reply - 2 years ago
    OSEAS,

    There are several ways to look at this scripture. It is wrapped in mystery that's not easily meant to see. Esoteric in nature. I can only take the essence of the story and see how fits & splits between Jesus' and satan's earthly ministries. You have to think your way through it, it could take years, some you'll never know. God is going to make you work for what he previously has spelled out in allegory.

    Daniel 9:27 allegory makes me envision the beast army forewarning its Babylon attack, thinking about placing the abomination that makes desolate (smart missiles) ( Joel 2:4-11) ( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18). This sixth trumpet, surprise event begins anti-christ's 3.5 year reign.

    ( Daniel 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Luke 5 - 2 years ago
    Brother David, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    The scriptures and meaning behind those scriptures I quoted to you are in DIRECT OPPOSITION to there being a LITERAL HELL.

    So EACH has to be reconciled to each other through scripture.

    Scripture says those in the first resurrection (resurrected with Christ) will not see death but will be instantly in the presence of Christ, in Spirit, with a glorified body.

    Scripture says those in the second resurrection will be raise back in their sinful flesh and cast alive into the lake of fire.

    If the lake of fire is LITERAL FIRE those thrown into it alive will LITERAL DIE within seconds. Therefore there would be no nations to rule and judge in the ages to come. This doesn't reconcile our two different scriptures.

    If the lake of fire represents the judgement IN CHRIST who is a consuming FIRE, then the two scriptures reconcile with each other.

    Isaiah 10:16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of Host, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory (priest) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.

    Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purge the blood of (new) Jerusalem from the midst (CHRIST IN YOU) thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and the SPIRIT OF BURNING.

    Isaiah 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not delivery themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to set before it.

    This is also spiritual fire from the fact you can't warm yourself from it. The ones in the first resurrection also have to go through this fire.

    Mark 4:49 And everyone shall be salted with FIRE.

    Matthew 3:11 ....he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost and FIRE.
  • Richard Estrada - 2 years ago
    Ronald,

    The abomination of desolation has nothing to do with the beast in Revelation? WHAT? That's his signature move, he destroys Babylon, he tells the world who he is on that day. Did you ever read about it? ( Isaiah 13)( Isaiah 47)( Revelation 18).

    Allow the Bible to define itself for you; you'll have a better understanding of the big picture inside a bigger picture.
  • Richard Estrada - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Mishael,

    Ezekiel 38:17-23

    God destroys Russia (Gog) at the last trumpet, ending the great tribulation. This happens 3.5 years after Israel was trodden under foot by the Gentiles ( Luke 21:20-24), and 3.5 years after the abomination of desolation ( Matthew 24:15) ( Isaiah 47) ( Joel 2). God's mystery is over.

    You will understand what you once overlooked.
  • Judge Martin - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Misheal,

    You have a misunderstanding of what "the day of the Lord" is. It is not a joyous occasion, but the opposite. It is a one hour long battle, at the sixth trumpet, second woe. War. It is judgment day for the people of earth, leaders, bringing forth great tribulation. Read what really happens that day: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Jeremiah 50/51, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 17/18 & Luke 21:20-24 (Israel's fall).

    Please tell me you understand what that term means.
  • Simon on Jeremiah 15 - 2 years ago
    "We'll knock out everyone's teeth," Putin Warns those who seek to "bite a chink out of Russia." He said: "The key is our developed armed forces."

    Putin has game-over "devices" confidence ( Daniel 11:25). The king of the north strength.

    The "spoiler at noonday" commands a 3pm strike, when the sun is yet high in the sky.

    ( Jeremiah 15:7-9)

    7 And I will fan them with a fan in the gates of the land; I will bereave them of children, I will destroy my people, since they return not from their ways.

    8 Their widows are increased to me above the sand of the seas: I have brought upon them against the mother of the young men a spoiler at noonday: I have caused him to fall upon it suddenly, and terrors upon the city.

    9 She that hath borne seven languisheth: she hath given up the ghost; her sun is gone down while it was yet day: she hath been ashamed and confounded: and the residue of them will I deliver to the sword before their enemies, saith the LORD.

    ( Isaiah 47:7-9) Different prophet, same DOTL account.

    7 And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.

    8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:

    9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.

    ( Revelation 13:3)
  • Simon - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 2 years ago
    Mishael,

    Why not talk more about the end-times, so the ignorant may become wise? Something big is coming our way, catastrophic. You are bright with the NT, no doubt, but what of the OT? Jesus never shied away from honoring the prophets, and without them, there'd be nothing to fulfill. More importantly, in our times, we are seeing Revelation unfold. Shouldn't you understand the signs and tell the people over affirmations?

    Do you know how many Christians believe Jesus is coming next to save us, while not understanding antichrist must yield 42 months of world power, prior to Messiah's appearing? Christians are in a spiritual haze, without compass, no order of semblance or understanding. They know what someone has told them.

    I see 99% NT here, some to never know the prophets are more accurate than the morning newspaper. The prophets paint America as Mystery Babylon (new Rome) that gets hit with the "abomination of desolation" at the day of the Lord, sixth trumpet. There's only east vs west powers left: beast & Babylon. Come to terms with America being that evil, backsliding militant government, where in one hour is brought to naught. ( Revelation 18:18-20) God avenges the blood of prophets on her, the same forgotten prophets of today.

    The day of the Lord does not mean what most think it does ( Isaiah 13) ( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18). For people of earth, Babylon, it is a day of darkness and thick dark clouds. The beast has super weapons ( Ezekiel 21:9-12); devices ( Daniel 11:25) at sixth trumpet, and ( Daniel 11:24) post sixth trumpet. His weapons cause enough damage to knock the earth off its axis ( Isaiah 24:20) wobble, causing less daylight, a global curse. Joel 2:1-11 gives a visceral account of the unstoppable smart missile strike. The sixth trumpet is effectively the destruction of the whole house of Israel ( Isaiah 24), save the one hundred forty four thousand, elect. Between the sixth and seventh trumpets lie mans worst days.
  • Simon on 2 Chronicles 10 - 2 years ago
    Ezekiel 38 Biblical Perspective

    Ezekiel 38: 1-9

    Part 1 of 4: Gog's sixth trumpet attack on Israel (house):

    vs 3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

    vs 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company withbucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

    ( 2 Thessalonians 2:6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

    vs 7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

    ( Revelation 9:15) And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

    vs 8 After many days....in the latter years thou shalt come...against the mountains of Israel (house), and they shall dwell safely all of them...

    ( Revelation 9:13) And the sixth angel sounded....

    vs 9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

    God is against Gog, yet Gog is finally brought forth in the latter days to do God's will against Israel, Babylon, and eventually every world government. The first "cloud to cover the land" is reported. Israel (house) is being attacked.

    ( Jeremiah 5:15) Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the LORD: it is a mighty nation...

    ( Isaiah 13:5-6) They come from a far country...

    ( Joel 2:3-11) ...the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness...

    ( Isaiah 47) vs 9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood..
  • Simon on 2 Chronicles 10 - 2 years ago
    Part 3 continued:

    Gog has 42 months, minus 1 hour of absolute power left. The lead house of Israel was defeated ( Ezekiel 21:12) in the like manner as Babylon ( Isaiah 47). antichrist sets up his beast 'marked' government.

    ( Daniel 9:25) ...and to build Jerusalem the street shall be built again, and the wall (temple)...

    ( 2 Thessalonians 2:4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    ( Daniel 2:41) And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided...

    ( Daniel 11:44) But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy...

    ( Amos 1:6) The Philistines raided Judah under king Joram ( 2 Chronicles 21:16-17). They sold their captives to the archenemy of Israel, the Edomites.

    ( Obadiah 1:10) For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

    ( Obadiah 1:8) Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

    ( Obadiah 6 & 7) All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee....

    ( Revelation 16:16) ....And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    Gog's 42 months of power are coming to a close. His army is feuding to a point where, if allowed to, they would completely destroy the earth. This is the sole reason for the second coming of Jesus Christ: to prevent armies from ending the planet. When they of Revelation 16:16 see Christ's brightness upon Mt Olive, they will come down to the slaughter.
  • Darren Croft - In Reply on Psalms 138 - 3 years ago
    Ron,

    I agree when satan's kicked out of heaven and that initiates the 6th trumpet, 2nd woe, day of the Lord. For reference, here are a few describing the same event from different angles: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Joel 2:1-11, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Revelation 18. This battle is over in an hour.

    Daniel 9:27 I see what you are saying about the language, the dualism. At this point, I need to examine other evidence surrounding this verse, compared to other scriptures to better pin point what is going on.

    Right off the bat, it is well known that the day of the Lord sees Jesus coming like a thief with His northern army to lay the land desolate. God states that anti-Christ's army is His army, Joel 2: 10-11

    Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh from the south to the north: Ezekiel 21:1-7 "MY sword will go out of HIS sheath".

    Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty, Isaiah 13: 6 This characteristic of the strike is synonymous with the man of sin, spoiler at noonday, anti-Christs.



    God furbishes a sword and places it in the slayers (anti-Christ's) hand, Ezekiel 21:9-12 Russia has God-like weaponry, God has blessed Russia's scientists. Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty, Ezekiel 21:12

    The 70 weeks is a classic Bible mystery. I will study it again. The way I explained it to you makes sense to me considering the 6th trumpet lasts 42 months. I have no strong convictions towards it, and would evolve my mind if I was presented a sound concept. As it stands, it is a side bar to my love of the Lord and His prophets.

    I will be around to reprove.
  • Darren Croft - In Reply on Revelation 18 - 3 years ago
    Rome was the empire of the day, everything revolved around it. The Catholic church is ensconced with satan, the Jesuits (Jewish Christians) push Gematria and witchcraft. Past empires are interchangeable with current empires. The Bible will not explicitly tell you this, you have to think for yourself. It is no different than when Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Greeks held the same title. That is how prophesy flows. In our day, it is America that holds this title. We see in Rev 17 only that a new character has emerged, called Mystery Babylon, a new mighty end-time empire, a geopolitical and military superpower that rules the world. Outside it's America. Read Jeremiah 50 and 51 (like US states) as they both describe America to a T. Who else fits Mystery Babylon's description? Who is the beast from description?

    -Mystery Babylon is America that gets destroyed.

    -Babylon proper consists of America's allies, to include Israel that gets destroyed in the same hour.

    Study the day of the Lord to see that "God's army", Joel 2:11, the northern army (Russia+) that obliterates the southern army ( Dan 11:40) to rule the world. Anti-christ sets up in the temple claiming to be God, unhindered. Where is America post 6th trumpet, and why is the beast the only empire around? The earth doesn't get knocked of its axis battling the RCC, an evil spirit. The whore America is no where to be found, hell has come to greet it at its departure.

    America wants to sit a queen forever ( Isaiah 47) against Jesus, and the prophets. This Mystery Babylon, who's king (does Rome have a king?) hath heard the report of them (missiles), and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of him, and pangs as of a woman in travail, Jeremiah 50:43 Reap it America.

    There are at least 90 scriptures concerning the day of the Lord strike. They tell the story far better better than I can. Many people are bias because they love America, up until the flame comes.
  • Darren Croft - In Reply on Psalms 90:10 - 3 years ago
    Charlotte Ann,

    The rapture is at the end, at the 7th trumpet, and for the very few who survived the chaos. We haven't been hit with the 6th trumpet yet ( Isaiah 13, Isaiah 47, Rev 18), the day of the Lord, the abomination of desolation set in America, or the invasion and captivity of Israel. You'll have to make it through anti-christ's 42 month rule before any intervention occurs. Everything Biblical has a specific order and time-line to be fulfilled.

    Happy birthday!!!
  • Darren Croft - In Reply on Judges 7 - 3 years ago
    From scripture, it is easy to tell who the beast is from Mystery Babylon.

    At the 5th trumpet, on 9/11, America attacked itself starting their phony war on terror.

    At the 6th trumpet the beast Russia & China (iron/clay) desolate Mystery Babylon America within 1 hour.

    This is anti-christ's rule of the entire world. Anti-christ destroys America and dismantles her allies. God specifically targets Mystery Babylon America. Who would think such an upstanding Christian nation would get their cup filled to the double?

    At the 7th trumpet, Jesus with a new name defeats beast Russia/China. Remind me where America is..was.

    Why do you suppose Russia has God-like weaponry that can't be defended against?

    Ez 21:9-12. 9 Son of man, prophesy, and say, Thus saith the Lord; Say, A sword, a sword is sharpened, and also furbished:

    10 It is sharpened to make a sore slaughter; it is furbished that it may glitter: should we then make mirth? it contemneth the rod of my son, as every tree.

    11 And he hath given it to be furbished, that it may be handled: this sword is sharpened, and it is furbished, to give it into the hand of the slayer.

    12 Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh. (Reference to Jacob's time of trouble, wrestling for his stolen birthright)

    Do you see how the Lord has furbished a sword and put it in the hand of the slayer, Russia, the 10 toed beast.

    Do you see that God intends the strike to be against HIS OWN PEOPLE!!! Against Jacob (US made desolate/Israel invaded 42 months) Where is America to protect it's partner in crime, Israel? Luke 21:20-24. Gone, via Isaiah 47, Joel 2:1-11, Rev 18, the abomination of desolation ushers in Antichrist's rule.

    You will not understand if you refuse to entertain new insights. It's a complete wash when everyone of knowledge is stuck to themselves.


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