Discuss Isaiah 4

  • Jordyn - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Sister Jema:

    When Christ was telling those that were listening to him.

    One shall be taken and one left.

    As were the days of Noah.

    The ones taken, are taken in DEATH, the ones left never see DEATH, but are translated into the presence of God ( 1 Timothy 6:16)

    The sheep and goats, one believes and one don't believe.

    Two mountains, one moves to the north, and one to the south, and all nations are drawn to the BATTLE:

    Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this BATTLE shall be with BURNING and fuel of fire.

    Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT of JUDGEMENT, and by the SPIRIT of BURNING.

    Matthew 3:11 ...he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost and FIRE....

    God Bless YOU!
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    To all

    One of the most if not the greatest warnings from JESUS for exactly these current days is Matthew 25:6: -> 6 And at midnight(isn't it a NEW TURN turn of GOD's Day, 2Peter 3:8?) there was a cry made; Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him.

    Are you really going although your lamp is trimming? By the way, the beginning of sorrows is already running- Matthew 24:3-8.

    The bridegroom will came very soon and the door will be shut, therefore, those which are ready will go in with Him to the marriage- Revelation 19:7-9 , take a look. The door will be shut for ever.

    By the way, all GOD's people must remember Acts 1:11 - Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same JESUS, which is taken up from you into heaven(into the 3rd heaven), shall so COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen Him go into heaven(3rd heaven, that is the next world- Luke 20:35-36. Take a look). JESUS was on Mount called Olivet in the day when He was taken up, right? It was around year 33AD and now shall COME in like manner, right? after two Days, right? Hosea 6:2-3 and John 2:19-Take a look- , and the SAME CLOUD that received Him will again be there in His return, understand? For better understand, compare with Matt.17:5 and Isaiah 4:5.

    What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD, self-executing, understand? The Word says: Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. Dan.12:v.12 - Yeah, day 1335, the Ineffable, Wonderful, Indescribable, Unspeakable day, the day 1.335. Hallelujaaah!!! It means: 45 days after the period of 1290 days. Get ready you all as JESUS WARNED: Matt. 25: 6-13.

    May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection, now, and for ever.

    Amen
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hello Bedbugg

    IN FACT, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 is a revealing letter from Paul the Apostle.

    By the way, all GOD's people must remember Acts 1:11 - Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same JESUS, which is taken up from you into HEAVEN(into the 3rd heaven. HEAVEN? Ephesians 1:3 combined with Philippians 3:20-21 among other biblical references. Take a look.), shall so COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen Him go into heaven(3rd heaven, that is the next world- Luke 20:35-36. Take a look). JESUS was on Mount called Olivet in the day when He was taken up, right? and shall COME in like manner( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18), and the SAME CLOUD will be there in His return, understand? For better understand, compare with Matt.17:5 and Isaiah 4:5.

    What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD, self-executing, understand? The Word says: Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. Dan.12:v.12 - Yeah, day 1335, the Ineffable, Wonderful, Indescribable, Unspeakable day, the day 1.335. Hallelujaaah!!! It means: 45 days after the period of 1290 days. Get ready you all, as JESUS WARNED: Matthew 25: 6-13.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Colossians 3:2 "Set your affections on things above, not on things of the earth."

    This verse reminds us that our lives are as it were ..."seated in heavenly places.".. ( Eph. 2:6). That considers who is our advocate "ever interceding for us" ( Heb. 7:25). As I have pointed out in previous posts; the sheer magnitude of the physical splendor of heaven as great as it is is dwarfed by its Creator. Surely Satan would want to covet all of heaven's grandeur for himself; as indicated in descriptions of his exalted place as worship leader in Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14. As great as the pattern in heaven that God Himself mandated to be followed in the earthly temple or representation of the heavenly tabernacle; it is His presence which is always preeminent. This is why although Jesus Himself was God in the flesh He was not possessing beauty in the way man would desire Him ( Isaiah 4:2). This is why such a bloody sacrifice could be something that actually pleased the Father ( Isaiah 53:10). So we need to both die to our old ways and all the things that attract the five senses above our desire to glorify God.

    Much of the Kingdom of God has to do with obedience out of love ( John 14:15). Learning to love the ways of another is much like a woman who was betrothed and prepares for the marriage as scriptural parables as well as in some ways the Song of Solomon may indicate at a deeper level. We don't learn to love someone by cheating (such as illicit relations before marriage); or by focusing on vain actions that promote our own agenda. Service now certainly is a good way to get to know God's ways as well as prepare for heaven. This is utterly devoid of meaning to the unregenerate. Dying to ourselves is complete once we pass from this life; it is up to us to conform to His image or cling on to our old ways; the former brings great reward and is proclaimed and known by others; the latter brings great loss for us and eternal rewards as well. Let us do it now!
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Lawhana, Praying for healing. The Lord is able.

    Get her to the church where she can be prayed over. As instructed in James 5:14-15. I'm believing that God will do a mighty work in her life and ask you to encourage her to stand upon His word.

    Isaiah 4:10

    Luke 8:50
  • Luke - In Reply on Isaiah 4 - 1 year ago
    Because most Churches are infiltrated "by" the erroneous, and either misinterpret, or don't understand it, and are most likely of the belief that women should be silent in church; when in fact the seven women in the verse "In that day" are God's Elect; In that day i.e day of Judgement, the Tribulation. IMO
  • Adam - In Reply on Isaiah 4 - 1 year ago
    Hi Jon, can you share more about what you mean by existence and what bad practices you're seeing in the church?
  • David - In Reply on Isaiah 4 - 1 year ago
    Jon. Most times because people even so called Christian's don't really

    Believe God's Word it's more like mental accent or just something to do

    Then taken to heart and with humility changing to that which is true. Also

    Most people believe the Goodness of God but not the absolute evil one

    Or his practices.
  • Jon Esqueda on Isaiah 4 - 1 year ago
    Why,. Aren't gospel churches talking directly to this " existence?". During the service, at meetings to ...be rid of the satanic influence and erroneous practices!? God be with us all.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Jacqueline,

    to I knew there was a place that spoke of this. here it is from my NIV (I do not have a KJV use to copy a verse).

    Isaiah 4:5-6

    "For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of Host is His name; And Your Redeemer is the Holy One of israel; He is called the God of the Whole earth.

    For the LORD has called you like a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, like a youthful wife when you were refused, says your God."
  • Philip E. Wilkins - 2 years ago
    I believe that Isaiah 4:1 is literal. Homeless, drug/alcohol addicted, sexually abused, and mentally disabled women are some of the most vulnerable and rejected human beings on the planet. They actually don't want to be married, but that's because of past bad marriages, and the realization that nobody cares about them anymore. Seven to one is accurate, esp during the pandemic. I love seven women, but only a couple are worth marrying.
  • Carleton - In Reply - 2 years ago
    When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgement, and by the spirit of burning.

    And the Lord will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall ne a defence.

    Isaiah 4:4-5

    Then Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    Acts 2:38

    Whom God hath set forth to ne a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forebearance of God;

    Romans 3:25

    Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

    Romans 3:24

    To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he may be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

    Romans 3:26

    Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

    Hebrews 10:8

    This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

    And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

    Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

    Having therefore brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

    By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

    Hebrews 10:16-20

    To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by remission of their sins,

    Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,

    Luke 1:77-78

    But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off...

    2 Peter 1:9

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  • Carleton - In Reply - 2 years ago
    But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all of Judea, and Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

    Acts 1:8

    Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet?

    Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.

    Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part in me.

    John 13:6-8

    Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Excepta man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

    John 3:5

    And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Phillip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

    Acts 8:38

    And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Phillip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

    Acts 8:39

    That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

    Ephesians 5:26

    Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

    Acts 10:47

    But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

    John 19:34

    This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

    1 John 5:6

    In that day shall the branch of the LORD ne beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.

    And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even ecery one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

    Isaiah 4:2-3

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  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 2 years ago
    Brother Sonny, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Most people are taught by the traditions of man, very few study themselves and let the Spirit reveal the truth to them.

    Romans 8:20 For the CREATURE (CREATION) was made SUBJECT TO VANITY (evil), not WILLINGLY, but by REASON of him who hath SUBJECTED the same (creation) in HOPE. (Becoming ONE with their CREATOR).

    Ponder on the tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.

    That knowledge exist TOGETHER, you can't have the KNOWLEDGE of good without also having the KNOWLEDGE of evil.

    After partaking of this KNOWLEDGE of good and evil, God said, behold they (creation) have become like one of us to KNOW good and evil.

    This KNOWLEDGE is necessary to become LIKE GOD.

    John 17:21 That they (creation) ALL may BE ONE; as thou Father, art ONE IN ME, and I IN THEE, that thou also may be ONE IN US: that the world MAY BELIEVE that thou has SENT ME.

    Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery....CHRIST IN YOU.....

    Revelation 4:5 And out of the throne (you are the throne of CHRIST)( Revelation 20:4) proceeded lighting, and thunder and voices: BURNING ( Isaiah 4:4) before the throne (you are the throne of CHRIST)( Revelation 20:4), which (lighting, thunder, voices) ARE the SEVEN Spirits of God (now in you).

    Isaiah 11:2 And the (first is the) SPIRIT of the LORD (Father) shall rest upon him (Christ (in you)), the (second) spirit of WISDOM, and (the third spirit of) UNDERSTANDING, the (forth) spirit of COUNSEL and (the fifth spirit of) MIGHT, the (sixth) spirit of KNOWLEDGE and (the seventh spirit) of the FEAR of the Lord.

    When we no longer have to SUFFER IN THE FLESH we will BE ONE WITH THE FATHER AND SON.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Genesis 48 - 2 years ago
    Sister Nanette, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS understanding and HIS wisdom.

    You are correct, The Spirit is ONLY CALLING OUT the manifest Sons of GOD; NOW, in the age of grace. (first death and resurrection)

    But:

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature (CREATION) WAITETH for the manifestation of the Sons of GOD.

    Romans 8:20 For the creature (CREATION) ITSELF shall be DELIEVERED from the bondage of corruption INTO the glorious liberty of the CHILDREN OF GOD.

    The rest of creation (second resurrection and second death) will be delivered (to Spiritual truth and Spiritual life) THROUGH JUDGEMENT. ( Isaiah 4:4) The lake of fire that burneth with brimstone.

    1 Corinthians 3:15 ....But he himself shall be SAVED; yet so as BY FIRE.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Luke 5 - 2 years ago
    Brother David, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    The scriptures and meaning behind those scriptures I quoted to you are in DIRECT OPPOSITION to there being a LITERAL HELL.

    So EACH has to be reconciled to each other through scripture.

    Scripture says those in the first resurrection (resurrected with Christ) will not see death but will be instantly in the presence of Christ, in Spirit, with a glorified body.

    Scripture says those in the second resurrection will be raise back in their sinful flesh and cast alive into the lake of fire.

    If the lake of fire is LITERAL FIRE those thrown into it alive will LITERAL DIE within seconds. Therefore there would be no nations to rule and judge in the ages to come. This doesn't reconcile our two different scriptures.

    If the lake of fire represents the judgement IN CHRIST who is a consuming FIRE, then the two scriptures reconcile with each other.

    Isaiah 10:16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of Host, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory (priest) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.

    Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purge the blood of (new) Jerusalem from the midst (CHRIST IN YOU) thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and the SPIRIT OF BURNING.

    Isaiah 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not delivery themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to set before it.

    This is also spiritual fire from the fact you can't warm yourself from it. The ones in the first resurrection also have to go through this fire.

    Mark 4:49 And everyone shall be salted with FIRE.

    Matthew 3:11 ....he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost and FIRE.
  • Anthony DiValentin on Isaiah 4:1 - 2 years ago
    Look at the symbolism. In Revelation, there are 7 (types of) churches left. Women symbolize the church. The Messiah is coming back for His bride, the church, for example. So 7 churches will be trying to preach their own message (the bread they break), and clothing is symbolic of righteousness. We are told later in Revelation one of the 7 churches thinks it is perfect when it is really naked and blind. So these churches will want to preach their own version of "

    scripture", and they will believe they are clothed in righteousness, but they are wrong in their doctrines and therefore will call on Messiah to cover their inequities in His name.

    In other words, there wiill be many churches in the end times all saying they are correct and right, when in reality, none of them are, but as long as they include His name, they think they will be covered. He will tell them He never knew them - nominal Xtians.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Brother Carleton, I don't know what anabaptist teach. I was raised with the doctrines taught by southern baptist. Through thousands of hours studying the scriptures and begging Christ to show me the meaning; I no longer adhere to the doctrine of hell, and that man has FREE WILL and goes to an abode called heaven.

    The word of God CAN NOT contradict. Hundreds of verses says all creation will obey and worship God.

    A literal hell makes these words a lie; but Spiritual FIRE and Spiritual JUDGEMENT don't CONTRADICT.

    Isaiah 10:16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of host, send among his fat ones a leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a BURNING like the burning of a FIRE.

    Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT, and by the SPIRIT OF BURNING.

    May CHRIST CAUSE us walk in the WORDS of GOD.

    Isaiah 63:17 O Lord why has THOU MADE US TO ERR from thy ways, and hardened our hearts from thy fear? Return for thy servants' sake, the tribe of thine inheritance.

    Questions? Let's talk.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Cheryl. In reference to your questions: "Does purgatory exist? What is it for and where in the Bible can I read about it?"

    Purgatory, from the verb, "to purge", is a Roman Catholic teaching whereby those who have died & yet have sins unconfessed & unforgiven, go into an intermediate state for further cleansing, making them fit to enter Heaven. We don't find any reference in the Bible to such a state that a departed soul goes through, though RCs find scriptural support for their belief. They cite, Isaiah 4:4 ("spirit of burning" as referring to burning off the filth of the flesh); Matthew 5:25,26 ("prison" being purgatory, & "the last penny" being the full payment of that purgation); 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 (the test of "fire" as the place of refining & then acceptance by God); the Apocryphal Book 2 Maccabees 12:41-45 (a strong passage to show that the souls of the dead can be 'helped along the way' by making further sacrifice (monetary offering), with prayers making reconciliation for their sins); & so we have 'prayers for the dead'.

    If you know your Bible, & especially the references I've given, then you can see how Scriptures can be twisted to mean something else - to support their belief in a further purgation, with the prayers, offerings, masses, etc. to assure the soul's entrance to Heaven. Yet Hebrews 10:14, "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." Verse 18, "Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin." These verses tell us that Jesus' Sacrifice is sufficient to deal with the sin problem & to make us (those He has sanctified) perfect (clean & acceptable to God). And if our sins have been remitted (removed or transmitted onto Him), there can be no further offering for sin.

    So there is nothing that can possibly be offered to God, whether in this life or the next, that will further guarantee our entrance into Heaven. It's all of Grace - it's all found in the Cross & the shed Blood of Jesus.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Revelation 16 - 2 years ago
    Sister Evelyn, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    The battle of Armageddon is a battle as real as any battle; yet this battle isn't with natural weapons of warfare. Study Isaiah 9, it's a prophecy about Christ, the kingdom of God, and the battle we fight to obtain the kingdom (CHRIST IN YOU).

    Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood, but this (battle) SHALL BE with BURNING and FUEL OF FIRE.

    Isaiah 9:19 ......And THE PEOPLE shall be the FUEL OF THE FIRE (CHRIST)....( Hebrews 12:29)

    Revelation 9:18 By these three was a third part of man killed, BY THE FIRE (CHRIST)( Hebrews 12:29) ....

    Ezekiel 5:3 Thou shall BURN a third part in the fire (IN CHRIST) ....

    Ezekiel 5:4 Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the FIRE (IN CHRIST), and burn them in the FIRE (IN CHRIST)....

    Isaiah 4:4 When the LORD (FIRE) shall have washed away the filth of the DAUGHTERS OF ZION, and shall have purged the blood of (new) Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and the SPIRIT OF BURNING.

    Zachariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the FIRE (CHRIST) .....

    Malachi 3:2 Who shall abide the day of his coming (CHRIST IN YOU)? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiners FIRE.....

    Matthew 3:11 ....he will baptise you with the HOLY GHOST and FIRE:

    Revelation 21:8 But the FEARFUL, and MURDERS ( 1 John 3:15).....and ALL LIARS shall have their part in the lake that burneth with FIRE (JUDGED IN CHRIST)...

    Joel 3:14 Multitude, multitudes, in the valley of DECISION: for the DAY OF THE LORD (TODAY) is near in the valley of DECISION.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Revelation 14 - 3 years ago
    Rev robert, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Revelation 14

    Revelation 15

    Revelation 16

    This is the work of CHRIST DEATH on the cross and the work of HIS RESURRECTION and the battle ( Revelation 16:14) we are caused to fight to come to this TRUTH IN CHRIST. Being fulfilled for the last 2000 years as the Fathers draws us to CHRIST and CHRIST gives us HIS UNDERSTANDING to overcome. ASK HIM he will cause you to understand; but it HIS time frame. We have been in the day of the Lord now for 2000 years. He is harvesting HIS FRUITS as they become first ripe (firstfruits) ( Revelation 14:14-20) ( Matthew 20:1-16)

    When the sixth seal was opened ( Revelation 6:12) Christ was crucified; prophecy of ( Joel 2:31). The old testament saints and the children of the resurrection were raised with him ( Isaiah 26:19),( Revelation 20:5-6) and ( Matthew 27:52-53). The old testament saints were sealed with the Holy Spirit and the body of Christ ( 1 Timothy 6:16)( Revelation 7:3-8). There was silence in heaven for one half hour ( Revelation 8:1) between the sixth and seventh seal. This is the 45 days between Christ resurrection and pentecost ( Daniel 12:11-12) 1335 days minus 1290 days. No one could enter into the temple (into Christ) until the seven plagues were pour out on Christ (he took God's wrath for us). now we can be ONE IN CHRIST ( Revelation 15:6-8). The four living creatures before the throne ( Revelation 4:6-8) is all creation. God made a covenant with Noah that they would never be destroyed again ( Genesis 9:9-12) man, cattle, beast and fowl. ( Ezekiel 1:10) ( Revelation 4:7). ALL CREATION will worship God. The lake of fire is how Christ cleanses and purifies us.

    Hebrews 12:29

    Luke 12:49-50

    Matthew 3:11-12

    Isaiah 9:5

    Isaiah 4:3-4

    Malachai 3:2-3

    Ezekiel 20:46-49

    1 Corinthians 3:15
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Psalms 138 - 3 years ago
    Darren, may the spirit grace you with his wisdom and his knowledge.

    no part of revelation is going to occur in the physical sense.

    revelation is spiritual warfare for the kingdom of heaven.

    revelation is completely symbolic.

    isaiah 9:5 now every (natural) battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this (spiritual battle) shall be with burning and fuel of fire.

    isaiah 9:19 ....and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire....

    isaiah 4:4 when the lord (a consuming fire hebrews 12:29) shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of (new) zion, and shall have purged the blood of (new) jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgement and the spirit of burning.

    luke 12:49 i am come to send fire on the earth; and what be i (the fire), if it (the fire) be kindled already?

    matthew 4:11 ....he shall baptize you with the holy spirit and with fire;

    isaiah 9:18 for wickedness burneth as the fire (our god is a consuming fire).....

    isaiah 10:16 .... and under his glory (us) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.

    isaiah 24:15 wherefore glorify ye the lord in the fires ....

    isaiah 31:9 ....whose fire is in (new) zion, and his furnace in (new) jerusalem.

    isaiah 33:14 .....who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burning?

    where the fire is never quenched (our god is a consuming fire)

    isaiah 42:25 therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle; and it (the battle) hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it (the battle) burned him, and he laid it not to heart.

    ezekiel 5:2 thou shall burn with fire a third part in the midst of the (new jerusalem, christ in you).....

    zachariah 13:9 and i will bring the third part through the fire ....

    revelation 8:1-13

    revelation 9:18 by these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire...brimstone...smoke....

    hebrews 9:27

    1 peter 4:17
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Esther 2:10 - 3 years ago
    Barbara, the Spirit is gracing you with HIS wisdom and His Understanding. What the Spirit is revealing to you about the armies described in Revelation 19:14 is correct, we are those armies. The armies described in Revelation are much different than the armies we know which are made up of men in their natural state.

    1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that WAS NOT FIRST which is spiritual, but that which is NATURAL; and afterwards that which is SPIRITUAL.

    1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown (at natural birth) a NATURAL body; it is raised (at Christ resurrection) a SPIRITUAL body (we are delivered into this body the moment we depart our natural body). There is a NATURAL body, and there is a SPIRITUAL body.

    John 16:21 A woman (the church) when she is in travail hath sorrows (suffers in the flesh), because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she rememberth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

    There are many, many symbols that describe the called out: the elect, the saints, the anointed ones, the church, the temple, the house of God, the trees, the books, the rivers, the streams, the mountains, the house of Israel, the house of Jacob, the chosen, the called, the faithful, the horses, the chariots and many more. When the Spirit causes you to understand the symbols it becomes easier for the Spirit to reveal His truths.

    Isaiah 9:5 For every (natural) battle of the (natural) warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this (spiritual battle) shall be with (spiritual) BURNING and FUEL of (spiritual) FIRE.

    Isaiah 9:19 and the PEOPLE shall be the FUEL of the FIRE

    Isaiah 4:3-6 (vs 4)When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion (another symbol of the called out) and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem (another symbol of the called out) from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and by the SPIRIT OF BURNING.

    This is what the armies (the ones gone before us) are doing.
  • Earl Bowman on Revelation 11 - 3 years ago
    Revelation 11:2 FORTY TWO MONTHS

    Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the (spiritual) temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city (new Jerusalem) shall they tread under foot forty two months.

    Forty two months is the three and one half years of Christs ministry. John the Baptist to Jesus crucifixion.

    Daniel 12:11 And the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that MAKETH desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (forty two months or three and one half years).

    Did you notice that the abomination that MAKETH desolate was set up at the same time the daily sacrifice was taken away and replaced by the ONCE FOR ALL sacrifice of Christ.

    After Christ resurrection the treading under foot or the (spiritual) holy city (new Jerusalem) by the Gentiles became a lost cause.

    Revelation 17:14 These (horns) shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them....(spiritual warfare) 2 Corinthians 10:4 Isaiah 4:4 Isaiah 9:5

    Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the BEAST, these (horns) shall hate the whore, and shall make her DESOLATE and NAKED, and SHALL EAT HER FLESH, and BURN HER WITH FIRE.

    Perhaps these horn parallel or are a shadow of the horns of the alter in the old testament.

    Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their (horns) hearts to fulfil HIS WILL, and to agree, and give THEIR KINGDOM unto the beast, until the WORDS OF GOD BE FULFILLED.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Ephesians 2 - 3 years ago
    Fred, the Spirit is gracing you with his understanding and his wisdom. My reply is not so much to you; but to others who read and respect your comments. Our process of dying to the flesh and being made alive by the Spirit is described throughout the word of God, but most are hidden in parables, metaphors, similitudes, proverbs, etc. This is the Spirit's doing because without the SPIRIT you can't understand.

    Example:

    Zachariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague (spirit not natural) wherewith the Lord (Spirit) will smite ALL the people that fought (spiritually not naturally) against Jerusalem (spiritual not natural); Their flesh shall consume away (spiritually not naturally) while they stand upon their feet......FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

    Revelation is especially symbolic and hidden from natural eyes. It also describes how we die to the flesh.

    Isaiah 9:5 For every (natural) battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in (natural) blood; but this (spiritual battle for the kingdom of heaven) shall be with (spiritual) burning and FUEL of (spiritual) fire.

    Isaiah 9:19 .....and the people shall be as the FUEL of the (spiritual) fire.....

    Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord (Spirit) shall have washed away the FILTH or the daughters of (spiritual) mount Zion, and shall have purged the blood of (spiritual) Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT of judgement , and by the SPIRIT of burning.

    Hebrews 12:29 For our GOD (SPIRIT) IS A CONSUMING (SPIRITUAL) FIRE.

    Revelation 9:18 By these three was a third part of man (those called) killed (they died to the flesh), by the (spiritual) fire (Christ now in the form of the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit), and by the smoke, and by the brimstone.....

    Revelation 20:5 But the REST OF THE DEAD (those who have not yet died to the flesh) lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the FIRST RESURRECTION (therefore there had to be a FIRST DEATH.

    May the Spirit grace you.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Isaiah 4:1 - 3 years ago
    Sheri, the Spirit has graced you with his wisdom and understanding. Most don't understand that THE DAY OF THE LORD has been going on for 2000 years.

    Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in THAT DAY, saith the Lord God, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in a clear day.

    Matthew 27:45 And from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

    Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned in darkness, and the MOON into blood, BEFORE the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come.

    Psalm 89:36 It (his seed, Christ) shall be established for ever as the MOON, and as a faithful witness in heaven.

    Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is my FAITHFUL WITNESS......

    John 19:34 .....and forthwith came there out blood and water.....

    Zachariah 14:7 IT SHALL BE ONE DAY which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass at evening time it shall be light.

    It still isn't light and 2000 years has already passed.

    The Spirits grace continue upon you.
  • Sheri Carline on Isaiah 4:1 - 3 years ago
    In this dark day of the LORD all congregations and World are under judgement...yet God is feeding his people through his Word.

    In that day (Day of the LORD), seven women (fullness of earthly congregations), do not want God's Word (bread) but want to be called by his name (Christian).

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    Isaiah 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

    2In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.

    3And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

    4When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.
  • Donna AKA Mz Honee on Isaiah 4:1 - 3 years ago
    I felt lead to go back to chapter 3 to get a fuller understanding because in 4th chapter verse 1 it said, AND....

    I believe this is literal. Women having a desperate need and desire to marry for protection and covenant as it should be. Chapter 3 speaks about the haughtiness of women relying on their seduction and the things that they wear and their beauty that becomes curses. It states that their scalps shall have scabs and become bald. This is truly this day..so many women are wearing weaves wigs, & extensions... and their personalities are being altered, relying on their beauty instead of inner strength from the Most High...

    So the day is coming and has come that we will become mournful and lament of our sins and wanting the Covenant that the Most High had given us- A man's love and a woman's faithfulness, as Christ is to the Church. She will find that the woman should be behind her man(NOT Being dominant) but protective because of this day that is surely coming he will be a warrior fighting for his family. and not her beside him less he will become to fight in anger should something happens to her...iIn YAH'S WISDOM he will get her love, support and nurture in the midst of wartime. Many women will find out them being self-sufficient, it is and will not be enough....
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Revelation 16 - 3 years ago
    Mishael, the Spirit grace us with his words, the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire ( Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire) before Satan. Revelation 19 is describing those that are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb, one cannot be the bride of Christ without partaking of the marriage supper of the Lamb. Being invited to the Lamb's supper means one partakes of the lake of fire (for our God is a consuming fire). Luke 12:49 I (Spirit of God, in flesh) am come to send fire upon the earth (mankind); and what will I (the Spirit of God be) if it (fire) be already kindled? (vs) 50 But I (Spirit of God,in flesh) have a baptism (of fire) to be baptized with, and how am I (Spirit of God) straitened till it (baptism of fire) be accomplished! Matthew 3:11 ....he (Spirit of God) shall baptize you (children of Satan, everyone is a child of this world before they are born of the seed of the Spirit) with the Holy Ghost and with fire (our God is a consuming fire). Since the Spirit is eternal the fire is eternal. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful (were you once fearful), and unbelieving (were you once unbelieving), and murders (did you once hate you brothers) ....all liars (did you once lie). The Spirit graces us with the lake of fire Malachi 3:1 ....and the Lord whom ye seek, shall suddenly appear (at your rebirth) in his temple (you,the Spirits throne, heaven), (vs) 2 But who may abide the day of his coming? for he (the Spirit of truth) is like a refiners fire and fullers soap. Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord (Spirit) shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion.....by the spirit of judgement, and by the spirit of burning. (vs) 5 And the Lord (Spirit) will create (new birth) upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud (like the cloud over the tabernacle in Moses day) by day , and the shining of a flaming fire by night...(and when the cloud moved the people moved and when cloud stood still the people stood still)
  • Dada Joshua O on Isaiah 4 - 3 years ago
    Isiah 4:1 has double implication, physically and spiritually. Israel was just coming from war where many of the men were killed. today, by population, in the world today, we have excess women which may imply many women clinging to a man. this verse happened in real life in Israel.

    Spiritually, seven is a mark of perfection, women represents church. the church is suppose to be perfect though. The church today says let us bear your name, we will have our own doctrine, our own style of worship!!!. We heal in your name, we preach in your name..... depart from me ye workers of iniquities, I know you not.!!!


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