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Isaiah 30 KJV Bible discussions
 
  • Chris - in Reply on John 3:13
    Sacha, it is possible that the OT folk knew something of a suffering beyond the grave, but I agree that there's not a lot mentioned in that respect. We could look at Daniel 12:2: "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Here the thought is that those who die will awake (resurrection?), some to everlasting life & some to everlasting contempt. So even if one doesn't believe in a never-ending suffering, this verse shows that the dead don't remain dead but arise to some sort of judgement & punishment that doesn't end.

    Isaiah 30:33: "For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it." In this verse, the word "Tophet" is used & in the Greek (NT) is translated as Gehenna. This was a place near Jerusalem, in which the idolatrous Israelites used to offer up their children to Moloch. It may be put, for any place of torment; and particularly it is put for hell. "For the king": For the king of Assyria. "Fire": He alludes to the ancient custom, of burning sacrifices, and particularly of burning children to Moloch. "The breath": The immediate Hand of God, or His Word of anger. "Brimstone": alludes to that shower of fire and brimstone seen in Gen 19:24. Though this verse doesn't speak of an after death judgement, it reveals its counterpart in the NT.

    You can also look at Isaiah 66:22-24. So I can't say why there was not more written about this subject in the OT & even among Jews there are different camps as to what to believe. For me, I think it sufficient that Jesus spoke very clearly about it & treated the everlasting suffering of the sinner as real & it was for this reason He came so that none should fall under the Hand of God ( Hebrews 10:31).
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Ephesians 6:4
    Helen, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and His understanding. Keep studying God's word, you may think you can't remember everything; and if called upon you are concerned you would fall short of the task. You want fall short of the task because God's word says:

    Matthew 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of the Father which speaketh in you.

    Our first objective is to agree with the Spirit. WE ARE THE POT AND HE IS THE POTTER.

    Sometimes the POT was created just to be seen, your actions more often speak louder than your words.

    However the POTTER uses us is at his discretion not ours, but he will provide all you need to fulfil his desires.

    Jesus told his disciples he was sent to be a servant, isn't it wonderful that Jesus does all things or us.

    John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches:....... without me you can do nothing.

    Isaiah 30:7 .....Their strength is to sit (like a pot on the wheel) still.

    Exodus 14:13 And Moses said unto the people, fear ye not, stand and BEHOLD THE SALVATION OF THE LORD.......

    Our problem is WE KEEP GETTING OF THE POTTERS WHEEL.

    GBU
  • Ian - in Reply on Isaiah 30:1
    Isaiah 30:1 is referring to the Holy Spirit as the only legitimate covering for a person.

    1 Chorinthians 2 Verses 1 and 2 are an exhortation to follow Christ. Verses 3-15 state a practice that was prevalent

    in the Chorinthian church and the reasons to justify it.

    Verse 16 states that what is described in verses 3-15 does not come from God - 'But if any man seem to be

    contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.'
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 66:7
    The two Scriptures that were impressed upon my heart today for you:

    Matthew 5:14: "Ye ARE the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid."

    Isaiah 30:15 (part): "in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength." Your power & resilience lies in your faith & waiting upon the Lord.

    May the Lord bless you richly Mishael & minister to your deepest need as you meditate on the Lord Who came just for YOU & will in like manner do so again.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 30:5
    Philippians 4:6,7: "Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."

    That great Scripture being penned by the apostle holed up & bound in chains in prison, serves as a good reminder to us to "cast all of our care upon the Lord". It is certain that the events of the past days(s) cannot be changed and those of the future cannot be known, but voluntarily handing over the things outside our knowledge & control to a merciful, loving God Who does know & can handle them perfectly, is the best thing we can ever do. It is one thing to carefully & prayerfully consider the difficulties we're in, seeking wisdom from the Lord as to how to proceed, but when we allow that matter to constantly oppress the mind, taking away our joy, our hope & even our sleep, then this undermines the Grace of God for the believer & also to the deterioration of the mind & body.

    It has always been the work of God's Spirit to bring a restless, suffering soul to a point of restful peace in Christ. Worry, agitation in spirit & irrational decisions come from one who has refused the Spirit's help, preferring to use one's own wisdom. This can never bring the Peace of God in one's life. Isaiah 30:15 well says, "For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not." Loosely translated for today: 'salvation from our struggles can only be found in coming first to the Lord & leaving it all with Him; our spiritual strength comes only by tenaciously holding onto a quiet confidence in God's great Wisdom & Power, that which He requires of us'.

    Thank you for sharing your testimony of God's special ministry to your life during the times you felt you were imprisoned in but now rejoicing in His freedom.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Luke 12:10
    To FRED SCANLAN

    Please remember that the sons of God have come for the pulling down of this world's 'Strongholds', religion being the strongest of them all ( 2 Cor. 10:4; Luke 11:21-23).

    When it comes to the Medical Profession, please know that the believers live by faith, as the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is their guide in all things. Remember how God took care of a host of 2m people for forty years. He fed them and provided them with water and other essentials. Even their shoes and garments didn't wear out. Also remember that out of the original group that crossed the Red Sea only Joshua & Caleb crossed the Jordan River. All the rest died in the wilderness, while only the new generation crossed the Jordan.

    Rather than speaking from personal experience, we believe that the most effective way to be taught and to come to the understanding of 'The Chastening of the Lord' is by the Word of God itself

    CHASTENING

    Deut. 8:5

    Job 5:17-19; 6:1-10; 23:10; 33:19

    Psalms 6:1-10; 17:3; 30:1-12; 38:1-21; 94:12-14; 102:1-28; 116:1-19; 119:7,67,71

    Proverbs 3:11

    Isaiah 26:16

    1 Cor. 11:32

    Hebrews 12:5,6

    James 1:12

    1 Peter 1:7

    Rev. 3:15-21

    AFFLICTIONS

    Psalms 34:19; 132:1

    Isaiah 48:10

    Acts 7:10; 20:23

    2 Cor. 6:4

    Col. 1:24

    1 Thess 3:3

    Hebrews 12:5-12

    Rev. 3:18

    SICKNESS AND HEALING

    Exodus 15:26

    Psalm 6:2

    Isaiah 30:26

    Jer. 30:17

    Eze. 34:16

    Hosea 6:1

    Mal. 4:2

    Matthew 10:8

    Mark 2:17

    Luke 5:31

    James 5:15

    1 Peter 2:24

    Rev. 22:2

    RELYING ON DOCTORS AND MEDICINE



    2 Chr. 16:12,13

    Job 13:4

    Psalms 34:19; 108:12

    Isaiah 30:1-3

    Jer. 17:5-7,14

    Hosea 5:13

    Mark 5:25-29

    Luke 8:43

    MADE PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERING

    Job 5:18; 23:10

    Psalms 50:5; 119:67,71

    Isaiah 48:10

    Jer. 31:18

    Hosea 5:15; 6:1

    Romans 8:17

    2 Cor. 4:17

    Hebrews 2:10; 5:7-9; 12:10,11

    1 Peter 4:1,12; 5:1,9,10

    Rev. 3:19

    Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Ann - in Reply
    Olusegun Owopetu, I searched the scriptures, and I do believe as Robert that the scripture you are referring to is Isaiah 30:13.
  • Robert - in Reply
    Hello I believe the verse you are trying to find is isaiah 30:13.
  • Daniel Boek on Judges 14
    To understand Judges 14
    Read John 4: 32, Judges 14: 5 -18, Rev 10: 10, Isaiah 30: 17, Matt 21:5:

    I hold meat to be eaten that you have not perceived.
    The truth is both stronger than a lion and sweeter than honey
    It is both sweet to say and can be hard to swallow
    The truth can kill or it only stings a little
    Turning death to life like mourning with a fiddle.
  • Anonymous on Acts 15:16
    Covenants of promise TO THE UNSAVED ISRAEL REMMENAT COMING HOME. ONE OF THE COVENANTS OF PROMISES EPH 2 IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL. In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: EASU AND HIS SON 'S EDOM WILL BE DEFEATED ISIL? OTHERS Israel 'S ENEMY . NEW TESTAMENT RE-QUOTE. Acts 15:16 After this I will return and rebuild David 's fallen tent. Its ruins I will rebuild, and I will restore it, COULD THIS BE THE NATION OF ISRAEL? NIV King James Bible In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: why? Amos 9:12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this. Edom THE SON OF ESAU, LOOK 'S LIKE THE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. Isaiah 65:9 I will bring forth descendants from Jacob, and from Judah those who will possess my mountains my chosen people will inherit them, and there will my servants live. Isaiah 30:26
  • Colleen on Isaiah 30
    anyone have any thoughts on Isaiah 30 18?
  • Len on Isaiah 30
    Isaiah 30 26 Although this has perplexed theologians for centuries we now have the knowledge to understand it This can be only one date dec 25th As you know the earth is tilted on its axis at approximately 23 degrees As we approach the winter solstice the sun will remain above the horizon in the sky for seven full days up to dec 25 At the north pole if you look into the daytime sky on dec 25 you will see the moon which has replaced the sun moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun This is most likely a birth announcement for our Lord Jesus you will see your teachers and hear a voice telling you which way to turn


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