Discuss Isaiah 28

  • Shabbat Keeper - In Reply - 5 months ago
    We are first justified. Think of it as "just as if we never sinned". We are cleansed and forgiven. Then begins school. The process of becoming like Jesus. And, that is sanctification.

    Think about someone saved at Bible camp or retreat. And for a year or so they are on fire. Then, bit by bit, they drift away. They stop learning about God. But, they reassure themselves that they are saved. "Once saved, always saved" is a dangerous lie.

    "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk and drawn from the breast. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line; hear a little and there a little." Isaiah 28:9-10 KJV.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Brother S Spencer:

    You say you believe, but is HALF BELIEF enough to get you into the Kingdom of God or does God require TOTAL BELIEF of his WORKS.

    You say you believe in the works of the resurrection.

    But is belief in half the WORKS of Christ resurrection enough or does it takes total belief to OBTAIN the Kingdom of God.

    I don't think you know what the kingdom of God is, YET.

    What were the WORKS of Christ's resurrection:

    OUR sins of the flesh were forgiven and covered by the Lambs blood.

    DEATH was conquered, and IMMORTALITY, the gift of God, established, and CHRIST ONLY hath IMMORTALITY ( 1 Timothy 6:16).

    Christ ONLY arose, and we as JOINT HEIRS.

    Here is where you STOP BELIEVING.

    Mark 10:8 And THEY twain shall be ONE flesh: so then THEY are NO MORE twain, but ONE FLESH.

    So whose flesh are you, Christ flesh,

    Or is Christ, your flesh.

    The word gives the answer;

    1 Corinthians 15:50 ....flesh and blood cannot INHERIT the kingdom of GOD .....

    You INHERIT the Kingdom of God, it is not a place, it is a person.

    Genesis 2:23 This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: for SHE, Christ wife, shall be called WOMAN, because SHE is taken out of MAN ( Revelation 12).

    1 Corinthians 15:53 ..... this mortal shall PUT on IMMORTALITY .......

    1 Timothy 6:16 ..... Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY .....

    John 17:22 ..... that THEY may be ONE, as WE are ONE .....

    You believe Christ and his Father are ONE.

    Yet, you DON'T BELIEVE, you we made ONE with them by the resurrection of Christ.

    These are not my words that you don't believe.

    John 10:34 JESUS SAID, is it not WRITTEN in your LAW, I said, ye are gods ...... Psalms 82:6 .......

    Isaiah 55:11 My WORD WILL NOT return unto me VOID .....but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the THING whereto I sent it.

    Isaiah 28:21 ....that he may do HIS WORK, his strange WORK, and BRING TO PASS HIS ACT, his strange act.

    Can you enter the Kingdom of God, ONLY BELIEVING half of God's WORD.
  • Richard H Priday - 5 months ago
    Truth vs falsehood: New Age or Humanism

    There are two major errors as we head towards the Tribulation. One is the increasing number of those rejecting the God of the Bible and espousing a violent revolution; the other is what I believe is the genesis of the "Mystery Babylon" end time one world religion which basically holds to a tenet that man is basically good; and they can be somehow convinced to act upon these innate desires to bring some sort of utopian peace on earth. Such will bring about the first seal with the false peace of Antichrist on a ready and willing world population. Everyone; of course will be given a chance to join that bandwagon; as surely those espousing violence are somehow disenfranchised; explaining their behavior. Thus comes the covenant with "death and hell" knowingly made at that time according to Isaiah 28:15.

    One could merely read the beatitudes or other verses about "good works" in the scriptures and somehow think that by doing certain actions they are following the Gospel. Outwardly perhaps; but not inwardly in the heart as man cannot love those who hate them and despitefully use them without the Spirit's assistance ( Matt. 5:44). We cannot; as Joni Mitchell states in the 1969 song "Woodstock" go back to the garden. The exaltation of man as though he has some redeeming quality started to gain popularity in the 19th Century "enlightenment" period.

    When we look at other writings outside the Bible; it is certain that certain moral themes are more or less covered in these texts which are similar to scripture. We can see the same thing; of course in pagan cultures with the theme of a virgin giving birth with Isis and Osiris. The Bible is the written Word of God; even if some earlier texts were written down beforehand. God Himself wrote the 10 commandments on stone ( Ex. 31:18). He is the source of all truth; moral and otherwise and has taken care that the revealed Word was preserved and also became flesh ( John 1:14).
  • Shabbat Keeper - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Public school ruined my children's faith. The fact that you are on fire for the LORD is beautiful and maybe a miracle knowing what I know about public education.

    This verse is for you: "When thou said, seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, I will seek". Psalm 27:8 KJV.

    And here is another: "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breast. For precept must be upon precept; precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; hear a little and there a little." Isaiah 28:9-10. KJV.

    I am also learning and memorizing. It's a daily thing, a labor of love. May the LORD give you all understanding. Amen :)
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Oseas:

    There are different places in the prophecies that say Christ will pour out the same plagues that were poured out on the Egyptians.

    But, they want be LITERAL as they were in Egypt.

    Hail mingled with fire was one of the plagues in Egypt, as was frogs.

    Ezekiel 13:11 ....oh great hailstones shall fall, and a stormy wind shall rend it....

    Ezekiel 38:22 And I will plead with him with pestilence and blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon many people that are with him, and overflowing rain, and great hailstone, fire and brimstone.

    Isaiah 30:30 And the Lord SHALL CAUSE his glorious voice (his word) to be heard, and shall show the lighting down his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the FLAME of a devouring FIRE, with scattering, and tempest and hailstones.

    So all these are SYMBOLIC of something that is going to judge God's people, as did the plagues judge the Egyptians.

    John 5:22 ... God hath committed all judgement to the Son ...

    So these symbols of judgement are symbols of Christ, and Christ is the Word, and the WORD(S) of God JUDGES US.

    John 12:48 ... the words that I have spoken, the same words will judge you .....

    Isaiah 28:2 Behold the Lord has a mighty and strong one (the WORD), which as a tempest of HAIL and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters, shall cast down to earth with the hand

    Isaiah 28:3 The crown of PRIDE .....

    Isaiah 28:5 In that day (of judgement when one believes God's word) the Lord (the WORD) shall be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty,unto the residue his people.

    Isaiah 28:8 But they (the residue of his people) have also ERRED THROUGH WINE (explained in other scriptures, but is not alcoholic wine), and through strong drink (not alcohol) are OUT OF THE WAY (Christ is the way) .... they err in VISION and stumble in JUDGEMENT.

    I will continue in a second comment on the frogs.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    The Rapture: Imminency and the Feast of Trumpets

    Many are aware Rosh Hashanah is coming between tomorrow and September 17 officially; which is known as the time in Jewish tradition where "no man knows the day and hour". ( Matt. 24:36). Of course even Jesus was said not to know the hour; only the Father so that it could be at any time; but perhaps on some specific feast of Trumpets based on the "last trump" ( 1 Cor. 15:52). Some have argued this means the last trumpet judgment in Revelation 11:15. The argument against that is that things appear to be going on as usual such as in the time of Noah (as we see in Matthew 24:37-39 immediately following the earlier reference). Surely that WON'T be the case after 14 judgments come to the earth.

    As to this year; of xourse we have another interesting development with world leaders preparing to meet and apparently now floating through Saudi Arabia a peace deal for the Palestinians and Jews which they are only observing that; of course will divide Jerusalem. ( Dan. 11:39); and that will be part of the Daniel 9:27 prophecy as well; or the covenant with death and hell ( Isaiah 28:18). This will result eventually in half of the city taken ( Zech. 14:1-2). It is interesting this meeting is timed for Sept 19-20 and they will celebrate world peace early (normally it is Sept. 21 apparently for the World day of peace).

    Let's step back a bit. I remember 40 reasons the Lord must come by 1988 (not sure the author). THAT didn't happen so the last genreation if it began in 1948 for the Lord to return based on Matthew 24:34 was wrong. Fast forward to 2018 and again SEVENTY years later which is as long as a generation can be and still no rapture. For Psalm 90:10 to be right the rapture would have had to happen by 2021 for the Second coming 2028 and STILL no rapture. My thesis is the beginning date is wrong; bassed on several things such as Luke 21:29-31 discussing ALL the trees (perhaps the whole area prospering economically)
  • Pastor Ray - In Reply on 2 Esdras 13 - 9 months ago
    2 Esdras is not in the cannon and should not be taken serious as scripture from the inspiration of God. That being said, I believe that the man is Jesus. It seems to be a vision of when Jesus cam back after the tribulation, seven days signifying seven years.

    I hope this helps, but again I do not believe that the apocrypha is from God. I know they were originally in the Bible, but were taken our because of their error. I encourage you to compare scripture with scripture. The word must be built upon and must have the same doctrine or else it will cause error. I say this not to offend you, but to encourage you read the Bible that is commonly accepted as to not cause any error in your belief of who God truly is ( 2 Timothy 3:16). The apocrypha can cause a misconception that God is not the same as the cannon believes, when the Bible says that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

    Isaiah 28:9-14a

    9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

    10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

    11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

    12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

    13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

    14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD."
  • Landry - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Litttlemanchild:

    You have the testimony of Jesus IN YOU.

    1 John 2:27 The anointing IN YOU will teach you all things .....

    God gives light at his good pleasure, he want fail, be patient, it's an attribute of God.

    It will take your whole life time in the flesh, it's a race, it's a warfare.

    Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he (the Holy Ghost) teach knowledge, and whom shall he MAKE to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breast.

    Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, HERE a LITTLE, THERE a LITTLE.

    Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue (the Holy Ghost) will he SPEAK TO HIS PEOPLE.

    God WILL NOT FAIL to bring you to TRUTH.

    Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day; that the LIGHT shall not be CLEAR, nor DARK.

    Zechariah 14:7 But is shall be one day which shall be know to the LORD, not day, nor night, but it shall COME TO PASS, at EVENING TIME (the end of that day in the flesh and the beginning of the next day in the presence of God) IT SHALL BE LIGHT.

    God bless YOU.
  • Richard H Priday - 11 months ago
    The dangers of living in the past

    Ecclesiastes 7:10 warns us about looking to how things were better in the old days. It is easy to be nostalgic about the glories of our youth but the truth is all are as a fading flower ( Isaiah 28:4); and we soon return to the dust from whence we came ( Ecclesiastes 12:7).

    Taken to the utmost level; we can hold onto affections for those who have passed on who are not clearly followers of Christ and we risk being deceived by what is called familiar spirits; which is demons impersonating loved ones and somehow giving us comfort in what we assume is their presence. It is important to realize that in our fallen nature we are at risk for deception and must not put our confidence in the flesh. Our comfort in this world must not be due to material possessions; or anything else transient of this world. Ecclesiastes is a good book to read as to the conclusion of the matter is fearing God and keeping His commandments after the many things of vanity this world has to offer; surely Solomon would know having squandered his walk with God by doing things God warned against such as multiplying gold and silver and horses; marrying foreign wives; etc.

    In the US today; we also can't expect the country to flourish as it did in the past. The only way that could happen is with a large scale revival and repentance would have to begin in the church. Being the last days; apostacy is to be expected and clearly after the brevity of the change of heart after September 11 2001 hearts have only hardened further. Our youth today and the state of the world in general is well on its way to the prophesied Tribulation. Should we have offspring or even a spouse that remains faithful to God is truly a blessing; but the contrary shouldn't lead us to assume we are unfaithful.

    Hebrews 12:1 gives us good instruction on casting aside every weight and sin that is holding us back. Let us fix our eyes on things above ( Colossians 3:2).
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Hi Jimbob.

    again, thanks for your reply and no it's there's no reason for me to get upset over this misunderstanding.

    I haven't put much time towards the site of recent and haven't followed the original thread.

    Let's be clear, I use the KJV.

    However to answer a few of your questions,

    I would say any false literature or added literature to intentionally change the word of God in a way to loose the virtue intended yes that is what one may call leaven and yes perhaps demonic.

    However false or demonic "doctrine" comes from the interpreter or teacher from any Bible, as well as the king James.

    Doctrine is what you build out of the scripture whether it's faulty scripture or not. "A belief or set of beliefs held and taught by a Church, political party, or other group."

    What I was saying in regards to Brother Jesse's post was that I wouldn't go to the extreme of denying anyone's access to a Church unless they possessed a King James Bible.

    I believe God planned well ahead of Satan's traps and schemes. He gave us the Holyspirit to teach us and spread his message to us abroad.

    Isaiah 28:9-10 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

    For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; HERE A LITTLE, AND THERE A LITTLE:

    There are groups out there that change the bible they use completely to fit their Doctrine. "New World Translation" is one.

    God's word is perfect.

    Translations imperfect.

    A fruitless false teacher is worst, no matter what Bible he has.

    Because the Doctrine he adhere to haven't brought fruit in his life.

    You shall know them by their fruits. Matthew 7:15-16.

    It doesn't say you shall know them by their Bible.

    There are tares amongst us and their Bible is just like ours! They attempt to lure one away from the truth which is Christ.

    GBU.
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Adam:

    Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ .....

    We were all crucified with Christ.

    Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us up together (with Christ) .....

    We were all raised up with Christ.

    Isaiah 28:19 ....together with my dead body shall they arise ...

    God bless YOU!
  • Ruby Lea Read - 1 year ago
    REVELATION IS SYMBOLIC

    Revelation 16:21 And there fell upon man a great HAIL out of heaven, each stone about the weight of a talent (a talent weighs about 57 pounds): and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the HAIL; for the plague thereof was very great.

    Since Revelation is symbolic, what is this a symbol of:

    We have to go to the prophets:

    Isaiah 28:2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one ....who is this MIGHTY and STRONG ONE? ..... it is JESUS, the WORD OF GOD ......which as a tempest of HAIL and a DESTROYING STORM ......the HAIL in Revelation is symbolic of the WORD OF GOD, and his words are going to DESTROY ALL DECEPTION FROM THE CARNAL MIND of his people.

    Revelation 9:17 And I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat upon them, having breastplates of FIRE, and of JACINTH, and BRIMSTONE, and the heads of the horses were as heads of lions; and out of their mouths ISSUED FIRE and smoke and BRIMSTONE.

    Revelation 9:18 And by these three were a THRID PART OF MAN KILLED, by the FIRE, and by the SMOKE, and by the BRIMSTONE, which issued out of their mouth.

    This is symbolic, you can contain PHYSICAL fire and brimstone in ones mouth.

    Isaiah 30:33 ...for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large; the pile thereof is FIRE and much wood; the BREATH OF THE LORD, like a stream of BRIMSTONE, doth kindle it.

    Ezekiel 5:2 ...though shall burn a THIRD PART .....

    Ezekiel 5:3 Thou shall take thereof a FEW ......

    Ezekiel 5:4 .....and cast them into the midst of the fire, and burn them in the fire: for thereof (those destroyed in the fire) SHALL A FIRE COME FORTH ino all the house of Israel.

    Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the THIRD PART through the FIRE ......

    Revelation 8:7 And the third part of the trees were burnt up .....

    Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood, but this (battle) shall be with BURNING and fuel of fire.

    Isaiah 9:19 .... people shall be the fuel of the fire
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 1 year ago
    Ian:

    John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life.

    Anti means to be opposite that scripture.

    A person believes his Life is himself, instead of the LIFE being GOD IN YOU.

    The person believes they have FREE WILL.

    If you have come to truth you understand that since God is the LIFE IN YOU, it's God's WILL being done IN YOU

    There is NO SINGLE antichrist, just millions of antichrist.

    1 John 2:18 ....and you have heard that antichrist shall come, even NOW are there many (millions) of antichrist

    2 John 1:7 .....who confess not Jesus IS COME in the FLESH .....Christ CAME ONCE, and has already come the SECOND TIME: IN THE FLESH, you can't see him, he came like a thief in the night. The KINGDOM is not in OBSERVATION but UNDERSTANDING.

    John 17:22 ....that they may be one, even as we are one ....

    Because of the WORKS of the resurrection; ALL FLESH died with Christ, and ALL FLESH rose with Christ, 1 Corinthians 12:27 YOU ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST ....

    BELIEVE: Christ has COME IN the flesh: YOU and I and ALL.

    Colossisns 1:27 .....THIS MYSTERY .....CHRIST IN YOU .......

    Isaiah 28:1 .... that he may do his work (the WORK OF HIS CROSS), his STRANGE WORK, his ACT his STRANGE ACT .....

    A NEW CREATION

    FEW believe this, it makes for many antichrist.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother S Spencer:

    Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christ (Christ is the word, so there shall arise false words), and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; in so much that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE (but is not possible), they should deceive the very elect.

    Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, WHO WERE ORDAINED TO THIS CONDEMNATION .....

    God says he himself has caused this and brought it to pass.

    Luke 22:31 ....Satan has desired to have you, THAT HE MAY SIFT YOU as wheat ....

    Luke 22:32 But I WILL PRAY FOR YOU: that your faith (the faith of Christ) fail not .... IT'S CHRIST'S WORKS ....

    Isaiah 28:21 ....that he may do HIS WORK, HIS STRANGE WORK; and bring TO PASS his act, HIS STRANGE ACT.

    Isaiah 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his maker! Let the potsherds strive with the potsherds of the earth, Shall the clay say to him that fashioned it, What makest thou? OR THY WORK, He hath no hands?

    Isaiah 48:10 Behold I have refined the, but not with silver, I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

    Matthew 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself; but endureth for awhile, and when tribulations and persecutions ariseth because of the WORD, by and by he is offended.

    Christ had many disciples, but when the words became to hard for them they went the way of the world.

    Matthew 13:23 ..... and false prophets, shall show great signs and wonders .....

    Revelation .... and with him the false prophet ....were cast alive into the a lake of fire burning with BRIMSTONE

    Isaiah 30:33 ....the breath of the Lord, like a stream of BRIMSTONE, doeth kindle it.

    Isaiah 33:14 ...Who among us SHALL DWELL with the devouring fire ( Hebrews 12:29)? who amongst us SHALL DWELL with everlasting burning?

    Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise and garments rolled in blood, but this (battle) shall be with burning and fuel of fire.

    Isaiah 9:18 ...and the people shall be the fuel of the fire .....

    God Bless YOU!
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jimbob:

    If you didn't understand the comments I made the first time, they is no need to comment farther.

    Yes, Christ is coming back to this earth, and he is coming in the clouds of heaven, but not the way you have been taught by the traditions of man, It's a parable.

    Search the scriptures, the answer is not in one chapter of one book.

    1 John 2:27 But the anointing which is IN YOU will teach you all things, and you need not that any man teach you ...

    Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips, and another tongue will he speak to his people.

    The last day of THIS AGE, the feast of the passover, has been going on now for 2000 years, when it is complete will go to the NEXT AGE.

    You have to understand the OLD, it was THE SHADOW of the NEW.

    Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come .....

    God Bless YOU!
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply on Ezekiel 39 - 1 year ago
    Jennifer:

    The word of God is like a great treasure hunt, one scripture is the key to another scripture, and so on. The scriptures put together are the KEYS TO THE KINGDOM.

    Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, HERE A LITTLE, and THERE A LITTLE:

    BUT NOTICE; since the spirit of Christ wrote the words, the spirit of Christ must teach your what the words mean.

    Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to his people.

    Most of God's words are HIDDEN in parables and dark sayings.

    Psalms 78:2 I (the spirit of Christ) will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

    Revelation 19:10 ...for the testimony (words) of Jesus IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY.

    For your questions, has words been twisted by man's carnal mind, YES.

    Psalms 56:5 Every day they wrest (twist) my words ........

    Are God's words being fulfilled? YES

    Psalms 90:9 ...we spend our years as a tale that is told.

    Hebrews 4:3 ... the works (WORDS) WERE FINISHED from the foundation of the world.

    Isaiah 55:11 So shall my words be that goeth forth out of my mouth, they shall not return unto me void, but it MY WORD shall accomplish that which I PLEASE, and IT (the WORD) shall prosper in the thing where unto I sent IT (the WORD)

    The four winds of prophecy; a symbol, of the spirit of Christ.

    John 3:8 the wind bloweth where it listeth (where God CAUSES it to blow), and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whether it goeth (it's the WORK of God): so is every one that is BORN OF THE SPIRIT.

    Daniel 7:2 ....the four winds of heaven strove upon the great SEA (water)( Revelation 17:15) ....

    Do I believe in miracles and wonders? YES, what greater miracle than creation:

    Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, THEY ARE CREATED, ( 2 Corinthians 5:17) thou renewest the face of the earth.

    The mark of the beast requires a post of its own, I will send a second post.

    God Bless YOU!
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Gigi!!

    Well stated, The Church is built on a rock!!

    Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

    Isaiah 28:16.

    THAT ROCK IS THE LORD JESUS.

    The Lord is going to judge his Church BUT the Church is not backed into a corner by the adversary screaming for help!

    Matthew 16:18 is not a picture of the Church on defense! It's hell needs the Gates.

    We march straight forward with the truth! THE WORD OF GOD.

    We're not of the world where we compromise it.

    We're separated and the Lord done the separating!

    And by his word the climax of victory shall be seen.

    I Love what you said! Christ is the HEAD OF THE CHURCH.

    How could someone supposedly having the Spirit of God come against it?

    If you have not the Spirit of God you're none of his.

    We're not all Brothern!

    The difference in the Gospels speaks for itself.

    If that sounds harsh listen to Paul in

    Galatians 1:6-10.

    I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

    Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

    But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    Did Paul say let him be accursed?

    Lord help anyone else that says that!

    The scripture is to sharp!

    If I left out scripture and used secular definition here's what I come up with.

    IMPOSTER; a person who pretends to be someone else in order to deceive others, especially for fraudulent gain.

    I'll stick to scripture.

    God bless.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The time period of the Tribulation fits in to Daniel 9:24-27 where there is a period of 70 "weeks" of years. In these verses we see how a covenant made is broken; and the last half of the Tribulation lasting 1260 days is mentioned at the end of Daniel 12. The 1335 days mentioned would likely be the period when Christ arrives and the whole campaign of Armageddon is fought likely also encompassing the time of the Ezekiel 38 war. This would show the sequence from Zechariah 12 when the remaining Jews finally recognize Christ as Messiah; through Zechariah 14 where half of the city is taken; and Christ goes out to fight against the enemies. The end of that last chapter in Zechariah gets into the Millennium. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 gets into the belief in "The Lie"; also see 1 Thessalonians 5:3 about everyone talking about "peace and safety or security." The covenant with "death and hell" is also seen in Isaiah 28:18 where the nation of Israel deliberately makes an agreement with Antichrist.

    The seven year period apparently is also stated in the Koran someplace about their version of the 12th Imam or world ruler which is the length of time that leader is supposed to rule. Of course; we don't know if the Tribulation begins immediately after the Rapture. It is at that time that the Restrainer; or function of the Holy Spirit in the church is removed ( 2 Thess. 2:6-7). For now; the gates of hell cannot prevail against the church. ( Matthew 16:18). According to Daniel in the time of trial for His people the saints WILL be overcome by the Beast or Antichrist ( Daniel 7:25). We see how the boastful words there are a parallel to what is going on in Revelation 13.

    It is a theory of mine that if you make each seal; trumpet and bowl a period of months and add it up you get 7 years. (1+2+3+4+5+6+7) X 3. That is; 28 X 3 months or 84 months is equal to 7 years. Daniel uses 360 day years. Revelation 11:1-2 describes the 2 witnesses likely the first half of the Trib.
  • Duncan - In Reply on Exodus 1 - 1 year ago
    In the bible times wine used to be mixed reducing the intoxicating effect and allowing users to have few glasses but as the years have pass bay. the drinks of today they are capable of getting you drunk with just one or even half a glass.

    when people are drunk they tend not to be InControl and most of the times making stupid decisions the best word is sins, today people get up early and go drink drinking until night time.

    lets look at few scripturas

    isaiah 28:7

    pleased for yourself and pray God to open your heart and mind for understanding.

    As the bible says those who are drunk have erred out of the way and the visons and judgement has became corrupt

    in in short they have stumble and sined

    7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.



    Proverbs 31:4-5

    It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:

    5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Leviticus 26, Psalms 10:2,4, Psalms 73, Proverbs 11:2, Proverbs 13:10, Proverbs 14:3, Proverbs 16:18, Proverbs 29:23, Isaiah 28:1, Jeremiah 13:9-10, Jeremiah 49:16, Ezekiel 16:49, Daniel 4:37, Obadiah 1:3, Mark 7:20-23,

    2Chronicles 32:26,

    Hopefully you will find these helpful
  • Mark Valesano on Isaiah 28:18 - 1 year ago
    Isaiah 28:10 and 13 appear to be repetitive in nature, but there is a significant difference that shows they mean two different things. In 28:10, the verse starts out, "For precept must be upon precept...", while in v. 12-13, "Yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was to them, precept upon precept..". In verse 10, God is declaring that His truth contained within the ordinances, commands, and statutes are best learned when repeated and heeded by those to whom it's spoken or read. However, if one simply wants to ignore the value of God's doctrines, then to them it becomes a repetitive list of do's and don'ts. Just so many rules that are too inhibitive and legalistic for a loving God to apply to them. Matthew Henry had it right in his commentary on these verses. Those who seek to serve the Lord build their lives upon the cornerstone of His Word (Jesus), while those who would serve themselves see the Bible as a stumbling block.
  • Anthony Mazio - In Reply - 1 year ago
    22) Proverbs 23:31 - God instructs not to look at intoxicating drinks.

    23) Proverbs 23:32 - Alcoholic drinks bite like a serpent, sting like an adder.

    24) Proverbs 23:33 - Alcohol causes the drinker to have strange and adulterous thoughts, produces willfulness, and prevents reformation.

    25) Proverbs 23:34 - Alcohol makes the drinker unstable

    26) Proverbs 23:35 - Alcohol makes the drinker insensitive to pain so he does not perceive it as a warning. Alcohol is habit forming.

    27) Proverb 31:4-5 - Kings, Princes, and others who rule and judge must not drink alcohol. Alcohol perverts good judgment.

    28) Proverbs 31:6-7 - Strong drink could be given to those about to perish or those in pain. Better anesthetics are available today.

    29) Ecclesiastes 2:3 - The king tried everything, including intoxicating drink, to see if it satisfied. It did not. ( Ecclesiastes 12:8)

    30) Ecclesiastes 10:17 - A land is blessed when its leaders do not drink.

    31) Isaiah 5:11-12 - Woe to those who get up early to drink and stay up late at night to get drunk.

    32) Isaiah 5:22 - Woe to "champion" drinkers and "experts" at mixing drinks.

    33) Isaiah 19:14 - Drunken men stagger in their vomit.

    34) Isaiah 22:12-13 - The Israelites choose to drink; their future looks hopeless to them.

    35) Isaiah 24:9 - Drinkers cannot escape the consequences when God judges.

    36) Isaiah 28:1 - God pronounces woe on the drunkards of Ephraim.

    37) Isaiah 28:3 - Proud drunkards shall be trodden down.

    38) Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger and reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and stumble in judgment.

    39) Isaiah 28:8 - Drinkers' tables are covered with vomit and filth.

    40) Isaiah 56:9-12 - Drinkers seek their own gain and expect tomorrow to be just like today.

    41) Jeremiah 35:2-14 - The Rechabites drank no grape juice or intoxicating wine and were blessed.

    42) Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the priests not to drink wine.

    43) Daniel 1:5-17 - Daniel refused the king's intoxicating wine an
  • How Lucifer Became Satan_Used a Serpents Body To Trick Eve - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 1 year ago
    Isaiah 28: talking of Lucifer (Satan)

    13 Thou hast been in EDEN the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

    14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

    15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, UNTIL iniquity was found in thee.

    16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

    17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

    18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

    COMMENT: Lucifer was the covering Cherub in charge of praise and worship of God. He coveted that praise for himself; and led a rebellion in heaven. He was cast out of Heaven by Michael. Lucifer lost his name. He became Satan. He was not human as I said. Earth was created for HUMANS only. Satan used a serpents body to speak to Eve, and tempt her. His goal was to steal Adams Dominion as a Human. Eve ate the fruit and it was all over. What God gave to Adam, now Satan possessed it; until Jesus shed his blood on the Cross.

    Satan didn't have his jewels. His Evil invisible spirit took a snakes body. Eph. 6
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    God doesn't need possessions as we understand it, 'having or owning things' that are necessary for our survival or happiness. In Psalm 50:10, God says: "For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills." God owns all things He has created, even the special called-out people (first Israel, then those who've come to faith in Christ) & also that special city Jerusalem (Zion). Psalm 87:2-3 says, "The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God." According to this verse, Zion is synonymous with City of God, and it is a place that God loves. Zion is Jerusalem.



    Zion is first mentioned in 2 Samuel 5:7. Zion was originally an ancient Jebusite fortress in the city of Jerusalem. After David's conquest of the fortress, Jerusalem became a possession of Israel. The royal palace was built there, and Zion/Jerusalem became the seat of power in Israel's kingdom. When Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the meaning of Zion included the temple area ( Psalm 2:6; Psalm 48:2,11,12; Psalm 132:13). Therefore, the prophecy of Jeremiah 31:6, "Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God."

    Zion is also used in a spiritual sense in Scripture. In the Old Testament, Zion refers figuratively to Israel as the people of God ( Isaiah 60:14). In the New Testament, Zion refers to God's spiritual kingdom: Hebrews 12:22. Peter, quoting Isaiah 28:16, refers to Christ as the Cornerstone of Zion ( 1 Peter 2:6).

    Mount Zion, as a geographical area, is now the focus of much dispute (mainly between Jews & Muslims). The Bible is clear that one day Zion will be the sole possession of the Lord Jesus, and Zion, both the nation and the city, will be restored. ( Isaiah 52:1; Isaiah 60:14). When Jesus returns to Earth, His rule will be from Jerusalem ( Zechariah 14:1-4; Luke 1:32,33). I hope you can see why Zion is so important & especially significant in God's Eyes as a special City of God (on Earth).
  • ELB - 1 year ago
    Sister Suze:

    Revelation 8:7 And the first angel sounded, And there followed hail mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and a THIRD PART of the trees were burnt up, and all the green grass was burnt up.

    Isaiah 28:2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one (Christ), which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, and a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to earth with his hand.

    Psalms 18:12 At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hailstones and coals of fire.

    Psalms 18:13 The LORD also thundered in the heavens (in us), and the Highest gave his voice, hailstones and coals of fire.

    Psalms 148:8 Fire, and hail; snow and vapour; stormy wind fulfilling his word:

    Ezekiel 20:47 And say to the forest of the south, hear the word of the LORD; Thus saith the LORD God; Behold I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming fire shall not be quenched, and all faces from the north to the south shall be burned therein.

    Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

    God Bless you!
  • Influences That Change Us Physically__Emotionally - In Reply - 1 year ago
    [There are 549 scriptures on strong drink, meaning fermented.]

    Isaiah 24:9

    They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.

    Isaiah 5:22

    Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:

    Isaiah 28:7

    But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

    Judges 13:7

    But he said unto me, Behold, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and now drink no wine nor strong drink,

    Proverbs 20:1

    Wine is a mocker, strong drink is RAGING; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

    Isaiah 5:11

    Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!

    Isaiah 56:12

    Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.

    Proverbs Chapter 23

    29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? (tears)

    30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.

    31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.

    32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.

    33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.

    34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.

    35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet AGAIN.

    Life is easier without being under the influence of anything that causes the brain to harden and go dark.
  • Names of Jesus A_C - 1 year ago
    Advocate - 1 John 2:1

    Alive for Evermore - Rev 1:18

    All Knowing Psalm 139:1-6

    All, and in All - Colossians 3:11

    Almighty - Revelation 1:8

    Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8

    Altar - Hebrews 13:10

    Altogether Lovely - Song of Solomon 5:16

    Amen - Revelation 3:14

    Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:13 & Daniel 7:22

    Anointed One - 1 Samuel 2:35

    Author of Eternal Salvation - Hebrews 5:9

    Author of our Faith - Hebrews 12:2

    Balm of Gilead - Jeremiah 8:22

    Banner over us - Ps 60:4, S of Sol 2:4

    Bearer of Sin - Hebrews 9:28

    Before All Things - Colossians 1:17

    Beginning and Ending - Revelation 1:8

    Bishop of our Souls - 1 Peter 2:25

    Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15

    Blessed Hope - Titus 2:13

    Bread of Life, my manna - John 6:35

    Bridegroom - John 3:29

    Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16

    Brightness of His Glory - Hebrews 1:3

    Buckler - Psalms 18:30

    Captain - Joshua 5:14-15, Hebrews 2:10

    Changeless One - Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8

    Chief Among 10,000, S. of Solomon 5:10

    Chosen of God - 1 Peter 2:4

    Christ - Matthew 1:16 - 1 John 5:1

    Comforter - John 14:16-18

    Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25

    Counselor - Isaiah 9:6

    Creator - Romans 1:25 - Isaiah 40:28

    Crown of Glory - Isaiah 28:5
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 11 - 1 year ago
    1st, because this scripture has put an emotion in you. I assume GOD is working on something within you, possibly to show you truth or study deeper.

    2nd, pray for wisdom also James 1:5, in what GOD wants to reveal to you, deeper than I may show you.

    3rd, to me I understand this Psalms 11, & Psalms 11:3, appears to be written by David, it seems to point to when he was being pursued by Saul into the mountains. Please read 1Samuel 19:10, 1Samuel 18:29, 1Samuel 23:26, could David be referring to the foundation being destroyed referring to himself? 1Kings 9:5, Jeremiah 33:17, Psalms 132:11, being the promise of GOD to establish HIS throne through David?

    4th, because the temple wasn't made yet, 1Chronicles 28:3-21, Psalms 127:1,

    5th, however David's Psalms were also prophetic like Psalms 22,

    6th, Jesus being in the lineage of David: Matthew 22:42, Acts 13:22, Matthew 1:1,

    7th, other scripture: Isaiah 28:16, 1Corinthians 3:11-17,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • ELB - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Sister Suze, As you study Jeremiah you will see that God said, when I send Judah into captivity (the north country), of Babylon (physical), I will send ALL NATIONS into captivity (made drunk by my wrath) of the Babylon of Revelation.

    Revelation 17:5

    Isaiah 28:6-8

    Out of the north country shall come spoilers (those delivered from captivity of the Babylon of Revelation).

    These spoliers are the Sons of God described in Joel 2 and Jeremiah 51:19-64

    God Bless YOU!
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Psalms 23,

    Rod: Exodus 4:17,

    Job 9:34, Job 21:9, Psalms 2:9, Psalms 89:32, Psalms 125:3, Proverbs 10:13, Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 23:13,14, Proverbs 26:3,

    Proverbs 29:15, Isaiah 9:4, Isaiah 10:5, Isaiah 10:15, Isaiah 10:26, Isaiah 11:1,4, Jeremiah 10:16, Revelation 12:25,

    Staff: Genesis 32:10, Genesis 38:18, Exodus 12:17, Exodus 21:19, Leviticus 26:26, Numbers 13:23, Judges 6:21, 2Samuel 3:29, 2Samuel 23:7,21, 2Kings 4:29,31, 2Kings 18:21, Isaiah 3:1, Isaiah 14:5, Isaiah 28:27,

    Hopefully these are helpful


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