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Isaiah 11 KJV Bible discussions
 
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Roy,

    Revelation 1:4 says from the seven Spirits which are before His, that is, God's throne;

    There are two schools of thought on this. Please know that the number seven doesn't necessarily mean there are seven Spirits.

    In the Bible, seven represents completeness, perfection.

    The Jews take it as a Hebraism. RASHI, one of the greatest Jewish scholars uses Isaiah 11:1-2 to show that what John is using is a Hebraism to denote the seven fold Spirit of God. It means the Spirit of God is complete and perfect.

    But what specifically is he making reference to?

    In Revelation 4:5, we see the same thing when we study what the throne is like in heaven.

    It says and out of the throne proceed lightnings, and thunderings, and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

    In Revelation Chapter 5, the chapter where we see this scroll with seven seals on it, which is the title deed to the earth, and the call goes out who is worthy to take the scroll and loosen the seals thereof.

    And no one was found worthy in heaven. And John began to weep. And he was told don't weep, the Lamb of God is worthy.

    And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into all the earth.

    The seven eyes of Christ are the seven Spirits. So it represents completeness, perfection.

    But its application is to the Lord's seeing. You see, he's talking about the all-encompassing Spirit who sees all things, and knows all things. That's the way the Jews understood it.

    The scripture reference is Zechariah 4:10 which talks about these seven eyes, meaning that God sees perfectly and completely all things. And so John is using a Hebraism here.

    Hope this helps!
  • PROPHECY - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Brother Roy

    Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia, Grace be unto you, and peace from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the SEVEN SPIRITS before his throne.

    This is speaking about Christ, and the SEVEN SPIRITS of HIM.

    Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse (Christ), and a BRANCH (man, you and I) shall grow out of his (Christ's) roots.

    Here are the SEVEN SPIRITS of Christ.

    Isaiah 11:2 And the (1) SPIRIT of the Lord (the Father) shall rest upon him, the SPIRIT of (2) wisdom and (3) understanding, the SPIRIT of (4) counsel and (5) might, the SPIRIT of (6) knowledge and (7) fear of the Lord (the Father);

    The root is the LIFE of the BRANCH; it feeds the BRANCH with these SEVEN SPIRITS.

    May God give us eyes to see and ears to hear.

    God Bless You.
  • Alex N
    I made a mistake on my last Post...It should be Isaiah 11: 9...Not Jeremiah....Its was Isaiah 11 : 9 that saw KNOWLEDGE covering the earth as the waters covering the Seas...Sorry
  • Alex N on Zechariah 12
    I love to think about this Jesse David and Solomon Kingdom....I see these 3 men as being symbolic of the heavenly Kingdom/ Trinity...In Isaiah 11 :1 Isaiah uses these 3 men which were Father Son and Granson as being symbolic of a kingdom coming in the last days...When God was gonna visit his ppl the 2 nd time ...There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse...Which was David a type of Christ that came outa of the stem of God Almighty..And a branch shall come out of Davids loins which was Solomon the Granson ... Isaiah 11 :11 .... Isaiah cd not use these 3 men as symbolic of a kingdom coming in the last day simply b/c they had all been dead for approx. 300 yrs ...All this was just prophetic that a Heavenly Kingdom that wd come the last days when God wd visit his ppl the 2 nd time...This 2 nd coming and this last day Kingdom wd be a Trinity kingdom of FATHER SON AND GRANSON That wd be multiplied as the Stars of heaven...The H.G. is the 3 rd person The Child that comes out of Christ loins...Thats y Isaiah referes to Jesus as everlasting Father simply b/c he propagates very God with his words his breath which is his seed.

    ...Also this Abrahamic Trinity was Father Son and Granson...That God Promised to multiply as the sands of seas in multitudes.

    ....When God told Moses that his NAME was Abraham Issac and Jacob that is just prophetic that his Kingdom wd be a father Son and Granson Kingdom without this Granson Jacob and the 12 tribes this Abrahamic Trinity cd not be multiplied as the Sands of the Seas....And thats the way the Heavenly Kingdom the H.G. An Israel of God will be multiplied as the stars of heaven by the Regeneration of the H.G...When the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity...Resulting in a birth of Christ in everybody....Thats the New Covenant an intimacy with Humanity...I will know them all from the least to the greatest Thus there will be an Israel of God as the Stars of Heaven in multitude .GB
  • Alex N - in Reply
    I think that the best example of faith is Mary when she was pregnant she had the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....Mary was not impregnated by the written word but by the living Word the H.G....As Jesus was the living word made flesh and blood.... Hebrews 12 :22 Now Faith is the substance of things hoped for ( that new born babe desiring the sincere milk of the word the H.G. ) and the evidence of things not seen a baby Christ the H.G the Child of PROMISE...As Jesus said that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit which is the H.G. The Child of Promise....As faith comes by hearing the word that good seed that initiates a birth of Christ in us the Son of Man...Even in the natural a pregnancy has to precede a Birth...Thats y he has to know us thats when the good seed is gona be sown in our hearts which establishes faith..the KiNGDOM...Unless ya receive the Kingdom as lil Child..a baby Christ you will in no wise enter there in.

    ....This New Covenant is a birthing Covenant...Thats y Jesus told Nic. a Jew a teacher of the law he had to be bornagain...as the only thing that plzs God is a New Creature....Not Circumcision nor uncircumcision but a new creature which is the H.G. that Child of Promise that is the result of his seed his Breath which was his word...His breath was his words which are his seeds that form a baby Christ in us the H.G...The babes and suckling he mentions...unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child etc

    .....B/C i have spoken these words ( his seeds ) sorrows have filled your hearts...When a woman is in travail she has Sorrows but after the Child comes her Sorrows are turned in to Joy.. John 16 :21-23 kjv...Outa the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has perfected Praise...Which is the H.G. that CHILD of Promise.... Isaiah 11 : 6... A lil Child is gonna lead them..Which is the H.G. that Child of Promise....Plz Note the KINGDOM does not come till the woman births the manchild the result of FAITH VIA HIS WORDS...OK
  • Demaricus
    where are the 12 tribes of Israel located today? the bible clearly states that Judah would be scattered Isaiah 11:12, but in jole it says that Judah would be sold off to the Greeks Joel 3:6 which happened after 70 AD which the romans chaste the Israelites to west Africa where they was sold into slavery Deuteronomy 28:68 which was the slave trade according to history
  • Alex N - in Reply
    Hiya Giannis good questions...But Jesus tells us in that New Covenant they shall ALL ALL be taught of God....Its Jesus himself that is gonna trigger our belief system....If i be lifted up i will DRAW ALL ALL men unto me....Thats y Isaiah is saying i was found of them that sought me NOT and i was made manifest of them that asked NOT after me...Its Jesus who is gonna draw all men unto him...via the words of that New Covenant....I will KNOW them All from the least to the greatest,,, Jer. 31 : 34 kjv

    ......This KNOW them ALL is an intimacy that is gonna result in a Birth OF Christ in all of US.... Isaiah 11...Thats y Isaiah is saying KNOWLEGE shall cover the EARTH As the waters cover the seas ...He is gonna KNOW us all....Then Isaiah saw no more seas impling no more seas of humanity that has not been washed in his blood...Remember Jeremiah saw ALL the world in travail and birth pains Jer. 30 : 6 and everybody was in birth pains...The Child is the H.G. that Child of Promise...Our New Heart and New spirit...He has to KNOW us thats the only way the H.G. immanuel can be born in us is via his seeds ...Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed which are his words...Living WORDS...Peter....K
  • Alex N
    Hebrews 12 : 22....Let me remind you this is addressing the Jews and Gentiles ...You are come unto mount Zion the city of the living God,That HEAVENLY JERUSALEM and to a hugh host of angels...This New Jerusalem is the result of the blood Covenant at the CROSS...From ISAIAH 11.. The lilttle Child whch is the H.G is leading them to this Holy Mount..God is not gonna take them back to old Jerusalem after shedding his BLOOD to iniatiate a New Covenant..a New Jerusalem.

    .....Bro. Paul says that old Jerusalem is like Hagar and is in bondage with her Children...The Jews will have to be bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the WORDS of God as Bro. Peter tells us

    ......By 1 Spirit are we all baptised into the body of Christ wheather we be Jew or Gentile ,bond or free etc 1 Cor. 12 : 19 kjv

    .....Ya think that God is gonna send his son to die for the sins of the world and then go back to the Old Covenant ...Noh Senior

    ......Jeremaiah 31 : 31 .....I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah..Not according to the old Covenant...I will KNOW them ALL thus its all inclusive....Thats y Isaiah is saying KNOWLEDGE SHALL COVER THE EARTH AS THE WATERS COVER THE SEAS....He is gonna know everybody..Which is an intimacy that is gonna result in a birth of Christ in everybody....Thats y Isaiah saw KNOWLEDGE covering the whole earth as the waters cover seas...Its gonna effect everybody...K mi voy.
  • Alex N - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 5:11
    Mark love ya my Bro....But we should not Judge ,..Remember Jesus forgave the woman taken in Adultry...The woman taken in Adultry is everybody we all sin and come short of the Glory of God..Any thing not of faith is SIN.

    .....We all go a whoring after materialistic things....Jesus said if we even look at a woman with adultry in our hearts we have commited Adultry Already in our hearts....and minds

    .....When Jesus wrote on the ground a 2 nd time in the presence of the them that had the stones....It was just prophetic that he is gonna write in our hearts the 2 nd Advent that 2 nd covenant ....The Spirit of life in Christ Jesus (That New Covenant) has made us free from the law of sin and death...Thus there is no condemnation to them in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the SPIRIT.

    ......But in the end he is gonna pour out his spirit on ALL FLESH...Which is his baptism of the H.G. and FIRE That refiners fire and fullers soap a cleasing fire... Mal 3 : 2 ...Anybody whos name is not written in his book will be cast unto the lake of fire...Which is Our old Adamic nature who is in rank with Satan who is not written in his book...If thy right hand offend thee cut it off which is in rank with Satan....Thats y Jesus is saying every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire...Thats everybody

    ......Our right hand takes his orders from our old adamic nature our carnal minds that is in rank with Satan....Thus its our carnal minds that is gonna be cut off....ok lemme go...I pray for your church Mark that Jesus wd sow a good seed in all your members hearts resulting in the birth of Christ in all of you....Thats y he has to KNOW US thats when the good seed will be sown in our hearts....Thats the New covenant i will know them all from the least to the greatest....Thats y Isaiah was saying KNOWLEDGE SHALL COVER THE EARTH AS THE WATERS COVER THE SEAS...Thats everybody... Isaiah 11
  • Alex N - in Reply
    S Steven I love ya but you do greatly err, Here you are talking about corruption and incorruption...Not understanding that we ALL must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed....Even by the words of God as Peter says in 1st Peter 1: 23...kjv...Didn't our lord tell us you are made CLEAN by the WORD i have spoken unto you....Which is that New Covenant that is ALL inclusive....I will KNOW them ALL from the least to the greatest ....And knowledge shall cover the earth as the waters cover the seas Isaiah 11 ...How can you not see that this New Covenant is all inclusive....I was found of them that sought me NOT and was made manifest unto them that asked not after ME. Isaiah 65 : 1 kjv....And if in this LIFE only we have hope in Christ we are of all men most miserable 1 ST Cor. 15 : 16 ...There is another life, another world after this one as Jesus tells us....In this life there are few that are saved...billions have neva heard the name of JESUS....But in the life to come...In the world to come....B/c of the Cross that new covenant everybody will be washed in the blood of the lamb....Thats y Jesus is saying the hr. is coming when ALL that are in the graves shall hear my voice and come forth to the ressurection of life or damnation....Our old adamic nature is in rank with Satan the TARES that is gonna be damned..The tares are burned but the wheat is taken to his barn...His kINGDOM.

    .....Steven Jesus was Flesh and blood and he IS the Kingdom of God.

    Steven if ya study the New COVENANT you will see its ALL Gods doings....They shall NO more teach their neighbors and their friends KNOW THE LORD....They shall ALL know me from the least to the greatest... Jeremiah 31 : 34 kjv...There is not gonna be a NEED for Evangelists. Teachers and Preachers etc...And no more temples made with hands...As that manchild the H.G that Child of Promise is gonna Rule ALL nations....There is gona be a new heaven and a new earth and no more seas of humanity that has not been washed in his blood. GBU
  • Daniel - in Reply
    I'm not so much sure if it's birth pangs, although you could be correct, Sheila.

    Once the rapture happens, the tribulation does begin but it progressively gets worse if we follow the prophetic events in the Holy Bible. For example -- the anti-Christ may not rise up for a few years until after the tribulation begins but one of the early condemnations will be the mark of the beast (condemnation for those left behind and take it).

    There's a slight contrast in the events which precede the rapture and which precede the 2nd coming (as they're not similar events or the same as some claim).

    No signs precede Rapture. ( 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3)

    Signs precede Second Coming. ( Luke 21:11,15)

    Many terrible things will happen in the midst of the tribulation and there will be earthquakes, war and overall unrest. Some things of read you in Revelation are some of the most terrifying to be known. Israel's role too if you contrast between the pre-tribulation rapture & the 2nd coming:

    Israel is persecuted during the Tribulation. Two-in-three Jews in Israel are killed. ( Zechariah 13:8-9)

    Israel is regathered. ( Jeremiah 23:5-8)

    World famine, pestilence, war and sorrow follow the Rapture. ( Matthew 24:6-10; Luke 17:31)

    World peace follows Christ's Second Coming when He reigns from Jerusalem ( Isaiah 11:6)
  • Alex N - in Reply
    Spencer Isaiah 11 is using Jesse David and Solomon as symbolic language for a kingdom coming in the last days...When God was gonna set his hand a 2 nd time to recover the remnant of his ppl... Isaiah 11 : 7...But just think a minute Isaiah lived approx. 300 yrs AFTER Jesse David and Solomon but Isaiah is still using these 3 men as symbolic language for a kingdom coming in the last days...Which speaks volumes of the trinity being Father son and GRANSON...Solomon was the Granson that God wanted to build the great temply not David the Son...Ya see that ?....It was in the heart of David to build the temple...But God wd not let David the son build the temple...Why am i saying this...simply b/c Jesus is not gonna build the temple in our hearts...Its gonna be the H.G. that heavenly Solomon..That special son that came out of Davids loins is just prophetic of a special son that is gonna come out of Christ loins...When he breathe on them they received the H.G. The H.G. IS that child OF Promise that Greater then Solomon that is here Jesus mentions...As our bodies are the temple of the H.G.....OK I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT...I believe this JESSE DAVID SOLOMON RELATIONSHIP IS JUST PROPHETIC OF THE Father Son and the H.G....Which was liturally Father Son and Granson....As Solomon was the Granson....Remember Jesus said that it is expedient for you that I go away if i go not away the Comforter will not come....David had to die that Solomon wd be King....Jesus had to go away that the kingdom wd come...But Jesus said whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth ME..GOD...ok
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    The Kingdom of God.

    Part 3.

    "WITHIN YOU."

    The better translation would be "in your midst" or "among you." Jesus was telling the Pharisees that He brought the kingdom of God to earth. Jesus' presence in their midst gave them a taste of the kingdom life, as attested by the miracles that Jesus performed. Elsewhere, Jesus mentions His miracles as definitive proof of the kingdom: "If I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you" ( Luke 11:20).

    There are three popular interpretations of Jesus' words in Luke 17:21 that the kingdom of God is within you (or among you): 1) the kingdom of God is essentially inward, within man's heart; 2) the kingdom is within your reach if you make the right choices; and 3) the kingdom of God is in your midst in the person and presence of Jesus. The best of these interpretations, it seems, is the third: Jesus was inaugurating the kingdom as He changed the hearts of men, one at a time.

    For the time being, Christ's kingdom is not of this world ( John 18:36). One day, however, the kingdom of God will be manifest on the earth ( Isaiah 35:1), and Jesus Christ will rule a physical kingdom.

    Jesus told his desciples to pray for the Kingdom.

    Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

    Mat. 6:10.

    Some say the Kingdom started in Jesus ministry.

    There's several problems with that view.

    1) Davids throne no longer existed then. "It still don't.

    2) Revelation 20. refutes that notion. "The devil is still at large, look around.

    The Millennial Kingdom is a one-thousand-year literal and visible reign of Christ upon the earth during which Satan is bound, Israel as a people is restored, and the Jewish Temple rebuilt.

    Isaiah 2:1-4.

    Isaiah 11:1-10.

    Isaiah 65:18-25

    I like this one!!

    Isaiah 11:11. God will gather Israel a SECOND TIME and all this will happen.

    This is being fulfilled before our very eyes! He just haven't poured his spirit on that nation yet.

    God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - in Reply on Matthew 2
    Hey Jesse,

    Good information: truth shines from the word of God. As you said the leaders of Jerusalem should have known. I believe they did know, in Matthew 2:3-6, that Jerusalem (chief priests and scribes) was also troubled. They knew the time, but God did to them what He did to Pharoah, He blinded and hardened their hearts, John 12:40. To me this kind of ties into the things S Spencer has been sharing.

    There are other scriptures they were probably aware of, like Jeremiah 50:6 and Ezekiel 34 where God told Ezekiel to prophesy against the shepherds, (the leaders) and what God would do, Ezekiel 34:10.

    So, they were troubled to hear Jesus was born. They did not even send anyone to Bethlehem to see. You would think they would have been jumping for joy, but they did not want to give up the power, wealth, and Moses's seat they had. Jesus the true Shepherd John 10:11 first came only for the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 15:24, fulfilling and confirming the covenant Hebrews 13:20. Jesus also told the scribes and the Pharisees their house is left to them desolate, and He will return Matthew 23:36-39.

    Their duty as shepherds was over in that generation, 70 AD, and the sheep shall be gathered again, Isaiah 11:12 Ezekiel 37:21-22 Jeremiah 23:3 and more.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • James - in Reply
    I think we're on the same page here Spencer.

    Paul was a very educated man and so,even as he was led to write what he did from the Holy Ghost sometimes the whole passage needs to be read so as to understand what was written in the first few verses.

    The Jews are the chosen people of God and always will be. As part of God's plan, because his people rejected him the Gentiles were given the opportunity to receive him. Those who accepted him were considered part of the wild olive tree but we're grafted into the true olive tree. The Jews as a people are the broken branches that the gentiles replaced but God can graft them back into the tree.

    All those who have accepted Christ will be raptured as stated in Matthew 24:29-31.

    This is where I can only guess what happens next but think I have it right. After the battle of Armageddon and the events surrounding it, the thousand yr reign of Chris t will take place. This is what Isaiah 11 speaks to, where the wolf lies with the lamb, the child will play In the nest of the asp and the lion eats grass as the ox. The nation has been scattered when the anti-christ besieged the city of Jerusalem but now is regathered to become the chief of nations as Christ will be reigning as their King and they will accept him now. All the nations of the world will look to Israel as the nation with power and glory for Christ will be there as well.
  • Alex N - in Reply
    In Isaiah 11 : 6 ....All the different Animals are symbolic of ppl...Different personalites...BUT the lil CHILD that leads them is the H.G..The Children of Promise...The mountain is the Kingdom of God...The babes and suckling he mentions are Spirits the H.G many As he said they shall not hurt nor destroy in all my Holy Mountain...That which is born of the spirit tis spirit...the lil child wants to lead them to the mountain...Remember you are come unto Mt Zion the city of the living GOD That heavenly Jerusalem etc

    ....All these different ppl are being led by the H.G. THE BABES AND SUCKLINGS...Thats y Isaiah is saying a lil Child is gonna lead you...All these ppl have given birth to these Babes and Sucklings...the lil Child that is gonna lead you...As Isaiah said

    .....They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain...For the Earth shall be full of the knowledge of the lord as the waters cover the seas...Remember Jesus has to know us...Thus the babes and sucklings the H.G. that is gonna lead us into all truth...This is y we must be bornagain...From above ...These children are heavenly born in us via his Seed

    .....When Isaiah said KNOWLEDGE shall cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...As God told JEREMIAH....I will KNOW THEM all from the least to the greatest which is the NEW COVENANT...A birthing Covenant...Thus the babes and sucklings the Woman with Child in Rev 12 v 5 is birthing the Children..Jesus said unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...This Isaiah 11 : 6 is nothin less then the way the kingdom will come...by a heavenly Birth...We are gonna birth a lil child...We be the animals that are gona be led by a lil Child...That Child of PROMISE THE H.G...And its gonna come outta of Jesse ( God the Father ) Its a root of God Almighty the Jesse of the heavenly Kingdom..That heavenly Elect from that New COVENANT...Which says he is gona KNOW us ALL from the least to the greatest...An intimacy..A birth.GB
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Psalms 23,

    Rod: Exodus 4:17,

    Job 9:34, Job 21:9, Psalms 2:9, Psalms 89:32, Psalms 125:3, Proverbs 10:13, Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 23:13,14, Proverbs 26:3,

    Proverbs 29:15, Isaiah 9:4, Isaiah 10:5, Isaiah 10:15, Isaiah 10:26, Isaiah 11:1,4, Jeremiah 10:16, Revelation 12:25,

    Staff: Genesis 32:10, Genesis 38:18, Exodus 12:17, Exodus 21:19, Leviticus 26:26, Numbers 13:23, Judges 6:21, 2Samuel 3:29, 2Samuel 23:7,21, 2Kings 4:29,31, 2Kings 18:21, Isaiah 3:1, Isaiah 14:5, Isaiah 28:27,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • James - in Reply
    I believe Isaiah 11 speaks to that. I believe that this chapter describes the thousand yr reign of Christ.

    In the first half it talks of the wolf and the lamb, the child with the asp and the lion eating grass as the ox.

    Then, "in that day...".

    The second half talks of the root of Jesse and how Jesus will set up his kingdom, having gathered his chosen people " again" and setting up Israel as an ensign to all the other nations. Remember in Matthew 24 Jesus warns those in Judea to run for the hills and to escape the city as the anti-christ lays siege to Jerusalem. At this time the nation scatters to other places. Then at Jesus'coming (in verses 29-31 I believe) the rapture. Then the battle of armogeddon. After all that comes the thousand yr reign of Christ.

    At that time the nation of Israel will have their King and they will believe.
  • ELB - in Reply
    Giannis, I don't know for sure your beliefs, whether man can go to Hell.

    People look at scriptures in light of their beliefs, most often what they have been taught from childhood.

    Those teaching most often were inspired by man's teachings. These teachings are ingrained and VERY HARD TO OVERCOME.

    Mosses and the Prophets is all about the KINGDOM OF GOD.

    When you understand Mosses and the Prophets, the New Testament will align with Mosses and the Prophets.

    The OLD teaches ALL CREATION, at some point (in the coming ages) will be reconciled to God.

    The Old teaches God does things at an appointed time, because the WORDS were spoken before the foundation of the worlds and are being fulfilled in that order.

    The Old is a shadow of the NEW, that GOD CHOOSES certain ones as vessels of mercy and certain ones as vessels of dishonour.

    Those CHOSEN in this age will become Ministering spirits: those not CHOSEN, will lay in the grave UNTIL the RESURRECTION OF JUDGEMENT.

    When God raises those in the graves back to their flesh, Christ and his ministering spirits will JUDGE THEM and bring them to TRUTH.

    Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people (his creation) have gone into captivity, because they have no KNOWLEDGE .....

    God is solving this problem of NO KNOWLEDGE by giving his creation the MIND OF CHRIST; but in his appointed time, to fulfil the WORDS SPOKEN.

    Isaiah 11:9 ...for the earth SHALL BE FULL OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD .....

    Romans 8:20 For creation was MADE SUBJECT TO VANITY, not willingly .....

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation OF CREATION WAITETH (God's appointed time) for the manifestation of the SONS OF GOD.

    Romans 8:21 For CREATION ITSELF shall be delivered from corruption (the grave) INTO THE GLORIOUS LIBERTY OF THE CHILDREN OF GOD.

    1 Timothy 4:10 Therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN (even those that are saved in the age of judgement), SPECIALLY THOSE WHO (are caused) to BELIEVE.
  • T Levis - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4
    Responding to ELB,

    1John 4:1-20,

    Genesis 41:8, Genesis 45:27, Exodus 6:9, Exodus 28:3, Exodus 35:12, Numbers 14:24, Deuteronomy 2:30, Deuteronomy 34:9, Joshua 5:1, Proverbs 18:14, Ezekiel 1:20, Romans 8:14-16, Haggi 1:14,

    Isaiah 11:2,

    Leviticus 20:27, Numbers 5:14,30,

    Numbers 11:17,25,

    Judges 9:23,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Alex N - in Reply
    Amen Bro. Dan but this Isaiah 11 is Right here on this Earth..As Verse 9 says the EARTH shall be full of the Knowlege of the lord as the waters cover the Seas...All these animals are symbolic language for ppl and their personalities...The CHILD that leads them is their new innerman which is the H.G. that Child of Promise...They have birth these Children that leads them..As Isaiah said a lil Child is gonna lead them...The mountain is the Kingdom of God where the Children wants to lead them .. Hebrews 12 : 22...You are come unto mt. ZION THAT heavenly Jerusalem...The city of the living God etc..Isaiah mentions the sucking Child and the woman with Child a great company which answers to Rev 12 : 5 she brought forth a man Child that is gona RULE ALL NATIONS...( the spirit of truth) the H.G. that Jesus said was gonna reprove the World of sin and Judgement and righteousness.

    ....The lil Child that leads them is the H.G. The Child of Promise...All the Animals are just symbolic language for ppl that have birth the Child of Promise the H.G...A new innerman...Thats y Isaiah is saying a lil Child is gonna lead them which is the H.G.

    ...But this is here on the earth as Rev 11 : 15...the Kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our lord and his Christ and he shall reign for ever and ever right here on this beautiful planet...As David saw the whole world at rest and full of his GLORY...In that he is gonna rule ALL nations implies all the world...The Kingdom of HEAVEN is gonna be within us...As the mystery of the Kingdom of heaven is Christ in you...The Child of Promise is the H.G...Emanuel

    ....This Father and son relationship between David and Solomon is just prophetic of a Father and Son relations between Jesus and the H.G...As its Jesus who sows that good seed in our hearts that initiates the Birth of the Child of Promise the H.G...Thats y he is saying that which is BORN of the Spirit is Spirit which is the H.G. that Child of Promise. ok gbu
  • Bro dan - in Reply
    Amen. Yes, I agree, we will see animals in God's Heaven.

    Isaiah 11:7-9

    "And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea"
  • Ronald Whittemore - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Hi Virginia,

    The Jesuits were not founded until the 1500s, some involve the Jesuits with end-time teaching, with the black Pope, and more, and their past is not filled with a lot of good. The Sabbath is the seventh day, keeping the Sabbath is more than going to a church on that day, Exodus 20:8-11.

    Constantine created the earliest Sunday law known to history in 321A.D. The main reason was the conflicts between the Jews and the Christians and since the pagans did their thing on Sunday. Constantine claimed to be Christian, but this law does not read like it.

    "On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country, however, persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits: because it often happens that another day is not so suitable for grain sowing or for vine planting: lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost". Codex Justinianus, lib. 3, tit. 12, 3.

    Council of Laodicea -364 AD named Sunday the Lord's Day. One reason was to stop the Sabbath-keeping tendencies in the Eastern Roman Empire. The Council of Laodicea produced sixty rulings, or canons, covering a broad range of topics and punishments.

    Many worship on Sunday because the day Jesus resurrected was on the first day of the week and some on Saturday. We are also told not to judge, Colossians 2:16 read all of chapter 2. Every day is a good day to worship in the spirit and truth, John 4:23-24.

    Some point to the phrase "four corners of the earth" that appear in the Bible. Isaiah 11:12 Revelation 7:1, and Daniel 4:11 is said the earth would have to be flat to see the tree, and more, but even if people in the past believed the earth was flat, in my opinion, the Bible does not teach that.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4
    Hi Kay.

    Thanks for your reply.

    I've never heard a pre-trib view taught that there is 3 comings of Christ, I always understood that there is the 1st coming and the second coming to Earth.

    The rapture is called the "harpazo" in the Greek. meaning "to snatch away" or "to seize," The Lord don't come to the earth, We go to him!

    1 Thessalonians 4:17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the LORD IN THE AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    His second coming he comes to the Earth with judgment.

    In these 2nd coming verses there's no mention of the removal of saints.

    Here's just a few of many.

    Zechariah 14:4.

    Revelation 19:11-16,

    Revelation 20:1-6.

    Matthew 25:31-32.

    The 2nd coming he comes with his saints.

    If he raptured in his 2nd coming when he comes and make war against the nations who's going to populate the Millennium?

    Here's parallel verses to

    Mathew 24:31.

    Isaiah 11:12.

    Jeremiah 23:7-8.

    Jeremiah 16:14-15.

    Ezekiel 34:12-13.

    Isaiah 45:4.

    Goodnight Kay and God bless.

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  • Alex N - in Reply
    Nicole they also ask Jesus about the end of the world...What shall be the sign of your coming and the end of the world... Matthew 24 ...He spoke of several things but 1 thing he said that was so interesting is Sorrows, Child birth...Woe unto them with Child and them that give suck in those days...Which is the Woman in Rev 12 : 5 She brought forth a man Child that is gonna rule all nations and Satan is trying to kill her and her Child...Her Child being the H.G....That Child of Promise which is the H.G. The spirit of truth that is gonna reprove the world of sin and righteousness and JUDGEMENT...As Isaiah said a lil Child is gona led them... Isaiah 11 : 6 kjv...Satan wants to destroy the Woman and her Child...Simply b/c the Child is the KiNGDOM that is gonna be born in US.

    ......Unless ya receive the KINGDOM of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...And thats y the new birth is so important...We are gonna birth a baby Christ which is the H.G...The Kingdom

    ....When Isaiah saw the KINGDOM coming in Isaiah 9 : 6....He said unto us a Child is born unto us a son is given...And the Govmt is gonna be on his shoulders....He is gonna rule all the world when the end of this world comes..Knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas....Impling he is gonna know everybody thus an intimacy that is gonna result in a birth of Christ in us ALL...If i be lifted up I will draw ALL men unto me..At the end of the age the book will be opened that contains the living words ( the seeds of the sower) that is gonna be sown in all the world...The field is the world as Jesus said.

    ......As God told Daniel these words ( the Words of Wonder ) are closed up and sealed till the time of the end....The seeds of the Sower...ok lemme go
  • Bro dan - in Reply
    Hi Rose,

    The answer yes, animals/pets will always be a part of God's Kingdom and this is revealed in the scripture.

    God's creative work in Genesis included animals. God created the animals and said they were good Genesis 1:25 So there is plenty of reason for us to believe there will be pets/animals on the new earth Revelation 21:1

    There will certainly be animals during the millennial kingdom:

    Isaiah 11:6-9

    The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

    God Bless.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Isaiah 46:10,

    Genesis 1, Hebrews 1:10,

    Revelation 21:6, Revelation 22:13, John 1:1-5, Ephesians 3:9, Colossians 1:18, Luke 24:27, Revelation 3:14, Revelation 1:8,

    Psalms 80:15-17, symbolic? Genesis 2, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, Zechariah 3:8, Zechariah 6:12, John 15,

    Isaiah 53, Luke 23, Psalms 22, Mark 15:34, Mark 15, in context

    Hebrews 9:24-28,

    The last, 1Corinthians 15:45, Romans 5:12-21, John 19:30,

    Hopefully these are all helpful in your study
  • Alex N - in Reply
    Elizabeth thats a good observation about the Animals...Gods uses them as symbolic language for PPL...But the lil Child that leads is the H.G. the Child of Promise Isaiah 11 : 6....As Jesus said a lil Child is gonna lead them..And unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child etc...That mountain is the Kingdom of God ,...You are come unto mount Zion etc the Kingdom of God..Also in Acts 10 All the UNCLEAN animals in that sheet were symbolic of the Church that has been made Clean by the Blood of the LAMB...Not water baptism that Peter was commanding...And likewise All the white Horses in Rev. is just Symbolic of ppl us sinners that have been made white by the Blood of the lamb.

    Many times i think about the Donkey and her Colt is just symbolic of humanity that is gonna birth a baby Christ our Colt, our Fruit unto God...The Son of Man....Unless you receive the KiNGDOM OF GOD as a lil Child...our Colt..etc...But now we are tied up in a place where 2 ways meet, The flesh and the spirit...But the disciples put their clothes on the Donkey and her colt thus the disciples answer to the Donkey and her colt ty Jesus...The Colt ( our offspring ) which is the H.G. answers to the lil Child that is gonna lead US...That which is born of the spirit is spriit jesus said...Which is the H.G. our offspring, Our COLT. The son of man.
  • Elizabeth
    The Bible has a number of places that speak of animals in glory.

    1. Isaiah 11:6-9

    The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

    7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

    9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

    2. Isaiah 65:24-25

    And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

    25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

    3. Revelation 19:13-14

    And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

    14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

    There are other things that could be added to this short list. But this is a good place to start.


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