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  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} soul & spirit depart - in Reply
    1 Thessalonians 5:23

    Precious brother Chris says: "I cannot find a suitable answer for," and asks Great Questions:

    Where does the spirit of man go? Ecclesiastes 12:7 cp James 2:26

    me: Does the soul also depart? Genesis 35:18

    Is there a holding place for such? And where could this place be?

    1) Before The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, the paradise 'hold' was in "the heart {lower parts} of the earth" Matthew 12:40 Ephesians 4:9, Abraham's bosom, across a chasm from the 'torment' hold Luke 16:19-31 cp Luke 23:43

    2) After The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, paradise is now with The Throne Of God {Third Heaven?}, and Body Of CHRIST 'members' Immediately, upon physical death {'sleep' is the metaphor for the 'dead body'} "Depart to be WITH our Blessed God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST!" 2 Corinthians 5:6,8 Philippians 1:21,23 'Confirmed' By:

    3) ...Those 'asleep In JESUS'..." {metaphor for 'resting' in JESUS}, "...Will God {JESUS} Bring With HIM!" 1 Thessalonians 4:14 At our Great GRACE Departure! 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Amen?

    4) Is the "sleep/rest" UNconscious? Scripture?: Luke 16:19-31 cp Revelation 6:9-11

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    Ed Bedore says: "A proper understanding of what the Bible teaches about Hell, Sheol, Hades, and the Grave dispels confusion over what happens to the soul at the time of physical death and guards against being led astray by those teaching the false doctrines of soul-sleep, eradication of the soul, the universal reconciliation of mankind, and the annihilation of the lost.":

    More can be learned from his Excellent Article about this Bible Doctrine:

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, Paradise, and the Grave by W. Edward Bedore

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    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?): Link
  • S Spencer - in Reply on John 1
    Hi Brother Ronald.

    You are right, there is so much that is not given in scripture so most is conjectural.

    I also believe Adam lived in a different environment for lack of better terms, "Before sin entered the world."

    A big question that troubles me is the word naked. It seems it carries more of a spiritual meaning than nudity often in scripture.

    I believe often it's the opposite of being clothed with righteousness in a way mentioned here in Isaiah 61:10-11.

    The question is was Adam and Eve naked spiritually before eating of the tree of "knowledge of good and evil and perhaps they were clothed in a way mentioned in Ezekiel 16:7-15. We know good and evil existed long before Adam. "But they had no knowledge of it until they ate if the fruit. Look at Genesis 3:17. in that context, ( AND THE EYES OF THEM BOTH WERE OPENED,)....( and they knew that they were naked;...) and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

    I believe as you do Adam and Jesus Christ is all part of Gods plan that was before this world and I feel it involves Satan because this plan, that was before this world, included the lake of fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.

    I believe in the Gap theory, Not as some do and try to fit the Dinosaurs into that gap or any other life existence that we know of, I believe they were all created in the Genesis account. I believe Lucifer may possibly have had a dominion here on earth in that Gap.

    Here's why. Ezekiel 28:13. ( Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; ) every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

    The account in Genesis Lucifer has already fallen, He's not adorned as mentioned in Ezekiel 28. " I believe this fallen mentioned here is positionally. and. "Down to Earth."

    until next time.

    GBU.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - in Reply on John 1
    Part two

    I know the first Adam could not bring eternal life but I feel the first Adam was the start of the plan of salvation, and the undoing of Satan. and the penalty of it was death, that was eternal death, and the first sacrifice for sin that God covered Adam and Eve with skins of innocent animals, as you said a picture of what His Son would do for us. The first Adam initiated the purpose for the last Adam Jesus Christ and the defeat of Satan.

    I was relating to the conscience before, the word naked in Genesis 2:25 is a word arom that means just what is says unclothed. They were innocent or we could say ignorant to nudity until they ate of the tree and they knew they were nude, their eyes were opened, their conscience filled with shame and fear of judgment, that is why they tried to hide. The word in Genesis 3:7 -rum-mim is a different word meaning nakedness with shame. I feel when God said, "where art thou" is like a father calling out to a child he knew where he was but to see if he would show himself.

    Adam was afraid for his disobedience, it is like a thief that heard a siren, he runs to hide to avoid the punishment. Lord God YHVH Elohim instead of God Elohim the name used from Genesis 1, until after day seven Genesis 2:4? Elohim supreme one or mighty one the creator, in chapter 1 God only created without any reaction with what He had created. YHVH Elohim Master, communicator, He started communicating with Adam as a Father would a son.

    Not all was written, like with Cain and Abel, Abel brought of the sheep he kept and Cain brought of the plants of the field. Abel brought of the firstlings, but it does not say Cain brought of the first fruits. It is not written so; do we assume because Cain did not bring a blood sacrifice is why his was rejected? According to Genesis 1 they were to eat plants?

    I have enjoyed this, and will continue studying, may we always walk in the Spirit of truth.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - in Reply on John 1
    Brother Ronald.

    Part 2. Genesis 2:25.

    Lets look at Genesis 2:17. But of the tree of the (knowledge of good and evil,) thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

    Let's take Genesis 3:7-11. ( And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;) and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

    Verse 9: And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, ( Where art thou?)

    Here in verse 9. I don't think God is speaking of their location, I think He is speaking of their condition.

    "No one can hide from God."

    And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and ( I was afraid, because I was naked;) and I hid myself.

    " It's Interesting Adam is afraid because he was naked, rather than his disobedience."

    Verse 11. And he said, ( Who told thee that thou wast naked? ) Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

    Genesis 3:22. And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

    It seems the text goes a little further than just their disobedience, There's a lot of emphasis on being Naked and knowing it. Sinful flesh exposed Maybe? The consequence of knowing is where the threat lies! Why? Perhaps so they want attempt to cover themselves when Christ was ordained to come into the world before the world began. The blood of Christ was to be their covering. That's why I hold the view God provided them covering from a blood shed sacrifice pointing to Christ.

    Gen. 3:21. Unto Adam also and to his wife did the "LORD God" make coats of skins, and clothed them.

    Have you noticed verse 21 "LORD" God is used? The covenant name, This where the sacrifices started and the sacrifices pointing to Christ. It was taught to Cain and Abel. Only after the resurrection GOD spirit would Dwell "IN" man.

    Hebrews 10:14-20.

    God bless.
  • Michael Rodgers
    We are not given a description of the tree and it is most certainly not any tree that exists today. It is traditionally depicted as an apple tree.

    It was a Fig tree. It was the closest to Adam and Eve. Genesis 3:7. And the eyes of them both were opened, thy sewed fig leaves together, and made them selves.
  • Sheila Davis - in Reply
    That is a question that has been asked for ages. Some feel that the devil knows your thoughts, while most others don't.

    Scripture does not give a definite answer on that subject but scripture does indicate that not only the devil but some angelic beings have access to one's mind _ Acts 5:3 Satan filled the heart of Ananias _ Luke 22:3 Satan entered Judas _ Matthew 1:20 -25 an angel came to Joseph in a dream _ Genesis 31:11 an angel of the Lord spoke to Jacob in a dream. One can argue that to have access to one's mine doesn't mean they can read your thoughts.

    And there are these scriptures

    Job 1:7-12 Satan before God discusses Job and the amount of access he can have to Just.

    Ephesians 6:11-16 discusses to put on the whole armor of God and to *quench* the fiery darts of Satan.

    James 4:7 tells us to *resist* the devil and *he will flee*.

    1st Peter 5:8 tells us Satan is like a roaring lion *seeking* whom he can *devour.*

    Revelation 12:10-12 the devil stands before God day and night accusing man, and woe to the inhabitants of the earth the devil has come down.

    Scripture is clear - Jesus knew one's thoughts even while in a flesh body Matthew 9:4. To Jesus the spirit was given to him without measure John 3:34.

    I believe Satan and certain angels have the ability to read some of someone's thoughts and Satan, being the accuser is allowed to influence those thoughts. I feel Satan and the angelic beings who have access to any thoughts of the minds/hearts of mankind are given a limited measure, unlike God who has full measure. Example what I'm going to eat for breakfast or what type of clothes I'm going to wear any given day isn't something they would need access to or even care about. But the part of the mind our decisions are made against good or for what we know is right, Satan knows our thoughts.
  • Chris - in Reply on Job 1
    Hello Prasanth. The question you ask is a valid one & because the Scriptures are not entirely clear on all the events pertaining to Satan's origin & despatch, we can only formulate an opinion based on what the Scriptures do reveal. Therefore, we can get many opinions on this, even yours could be valid. So, as you've asked the question, let me give you my understanding using a timeline.

    a. When God created all things in Heaven (He Himself being un-created), all heavenly beings, etc. were created in eternity past. This was before the creation of the worlds, of man & of other things for the Earth. In Heaven, God created beings such as cherubs, seraphs, beasts, etc., which all had a particular function before God & which constantly worshipped Him ( Ezekiel 10:1-22; Isaiah 6:1-8).

    b. One cherub, which was "perfect in thy ways from the day thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee" ( Ezekiel 28:15), is reference to the one the Bible calls, Lucifer ( Isaiah 14:12). Although, the Ezekiel reference is directly to the King of Tyrus, the wording suggests that the spirit within the king is being addressed & described. Lucifer desired to sit in God's place ( Isaiah 14:12-14), therefore he was cast out of Heaven onto the Earth.

    c. And Lucifer, also called Satan (in Book of Job), was there in readiness to deform God's perfect creation (man & woman) in the Garden of Eden, that they too might become like him, filled with evil & opposing God & all that is righteous & holy ( Genesis 3:1-19).

    d. Though Satan was cast to the Earth, he still has access to Heaven, even as he presented himself to God with the other angels ( Job 1:6,7) to accuse Job (even as he does us: Revelation 12:10). Satan is not chained or confined to Hell now - he roams freely to deceive the nations ( Revelation 20:3) & will make his final thrust through the coming Anti-Christ, the personification of Satan, just as King Tyrus was. But he will one day be locked up for good ( Revelation 20:7-10).
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Sister Glenda, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Age is in YOUR favour; because, you can look back at more experiences of LIFE, than your daughter.

    The SPIRIT has CAUSED you (through the CHOICES he CAUSED you to make) to have those experiences of LIFE (good and evil) because it is necessary to become like God. ( Genesis 3:22)

    God KNOWS how to USE EVIL for GOOD.

    God CAUSED Joseph to have a silly little dream and to tell his brothers about that dream.

    God CAUSED his brothers to be envious and hate Joseph.

    God CAUSED his brothers to rise up and do EVIL against their brother Joseph.

    But look what THE WORD SAYS:

    Genesis 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not, for I am in the place of God (where God purposed him to be).

    Genesis 50:20 But as FOR YOU, you thought EVIL against me, but God meant (caused) it (evil) unto GOOD, to bring to pass, as it is this day, TO SAVE MUCH PEOPLE ALIVE.

    God is STILL DOING this TODAY; Man just does't BELIEVE IT.

    Did Judas have a Choice outside of what God had purposed him TO DO.( Zechariah 11:12)

    Did Peter have a Choice outside of what God had purposed him TO DO (deny Jesus and flee)( Zechariah 13:7).

    Did Pharaoh have a Choice outside of what God had purposed Him TO DO ( Romans 9:17).

    Did David have a Choice outside of what God purposed him TO DO.

    2 Samuel 24:1 And AGAIN the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he MOVED (CAUSED) David against them, to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

    God PURPOSED that you are going to become the IMAGE of HIM ( Romans 8:29)( 1 Corinthians 15:49), Do you think you have a CHOICE outside of what he has purpose you TO DO.

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my Spirit in you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statues (good or evil), and you shall keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

    God's WAY is not man's WAY.
  • Messenger - in Reply on Genesis 2
    You are replying to a comment by "Terry"

    Hello Terry,

    Eve explained to Satan the serpent

    that God told her you shall not eat.

    Genesis 3:1,3

    Hope this helps
  • Adam - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Hi Shayne, that's an interesting idea of body, soul, spirit being like the trinity. But do these really align perfectly? For example, is God always a body? and which of the triune God is always a body, Jesus? But scriptures (like the one you just shared) show that physical body was only a temporary thing for Him being on Earth. Matt 27:50 says Jesus gave up His spirit when He died on earth, showing that He too is a spirit. Also, God the Father or possibly a trinity also came into physical form too, when He wrestled with Jacob, for instance. Genesis 32:29. Also the LORD appeared to people in the old testament: Genesis 18:1-33. And who is the "LORD" of the old testament? Jesus, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, or triune God?
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 2
    According to Genesis 3:22-24, I would say that God spoke to neither of them about not eating from the Tree of Life. Because they disobeyed God by eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil, God drove them out of Eden & set guards against the Tree of Life.
  • Messenger - in Reply
    You are replying to a comment by "Glenda Faircloth"

    Regarding your question about Death? Some Reasons

    1. Genesis 3; 2 Samuel 11; 2 Timothy 3:1-7

    2. Ecclesiastes 9:1-12 (Chance OR accidents)

    3. Matthew 24:6-12 etc.

    Hope:

    John 5:28,29

    John 3:16,17

    Revelation 21:3-5
  • Carleton - in Reply on Revelation 4
    Daniel 7:9 says "thrones were cast down" , if we were to consider this meaning, seats were set up. Seats for both Old and New Testament believers whom overcame forces of evil, kingdoms of the world, and understood and were kept spiritually safe in the church in the wilderness. True authority has one Throne and only one seated at the Throne. Lightenings and thunderings are the powers of God. How close can saved men be to this Throne, the Throne of Righteousness? As close as the New Covenant the rainbow. This rainbow is the hope and peace between God and saved men.The sea of glass is ahead of the Throne. The redeemed could stand on this sea of glass because their sins were now transparent. The light of God could pass through them completely because of the one seated at the Throne. The twenty-four elders fall down to worship him that sat on the throne. Living representations (beasts) of all of creation witness with the elders to the Truth upon the Throne as their creator too in their continued and everlasting worship saying, "Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come". The connection to the Cherubims of Genesis 3:24 which were living creatures to Ezekiel 10:20 "This is the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by the river Chebar; and I knew that they were the cherubims." This chapter of Ezekiel helps to understand chapter 1 of Ezekiel where the beasts had the likeness of man, where man was the crown of God's creation in Christ Jesus.

    My meditation would lean towards that these Cherubims are the beasts and are at the four corners of the earth as borders to keep men ,because God so loved the world, on the straight and narrow way towards Salvation by the One on the Throne of God, Jesus Christ.

    :)
  • Messenger - in Reply
    Romans 5:12 Wherefore (as a result), as by one man sin entered into the world ( Genesis 3), and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

    all man (woman, children) on this earth are sinners . Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) is not looking for perfection.

    he's looking for *grief (repentance) and repentance from within ( Ps. 51:4). that inner thought and mind.

    that inner regret and groaning because of bad . but what if a person keep sinning willingly? Hebrews 10:26; 1 Corinthians 6:9,10

    however, what can be done to run in a way that doesn't cause

    a big stumble or fall with self or others?

    Psalm 1:1-3; 2 Timothy 3:16,17 study and correct

    Luke 22:40 prayer

    1Corinthians 15:33 Abandon anything that is influencing bad behavior.( Proverbs 13:20)

    *Example of major sin:

    2Samuel 12:1-18; Ps. 51:4

    I hope this helps. there is more... but don't want to

    overwhelm. ( Romans 7:14-25)
  • Messenger
    To Teresa: Romans 7:24; Job 14:14

    1 Corinthians 15:22 says For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    ( Genesis 3; John 3:16,17;5:28,29; John 17:3)

    Resurrected to earth: ( 2 Peter 3:13)

    Psalm 37:9-11,29,34;

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11

    or

    Resurrected to heaven: ( Revelation 20)

    Revelation 14:3 (144,000); Matthew 7:21

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11

    hope this helps, Thanks
  • Messenger - in Reply on Revelation 22
    replying to a comment by "Karen Newman"

    The wild beast here at revelation 13 is identifying two beast. (is a Man's number #666... 1 John 5:19)

    It speaks like a dragon (Satan the Devil is liken to a dragon Revelation 12:7-12.

    The Devil and his demons tells lies.- Genesis 3- John 8:44; Matthew 4:1-11.

    but believes and shudders- mark 1:23-26; James 2:19 )

    Satan Gives this wild beast power, a seat (throne), great authority on the earth. this beast is fatally wounded, mortal wounds (Wars/Billions slaughtered).it speaks great things and blasphemies. (speaks against God, blaspheme his name. (Through the centuries bible translations has taken out God's name. "not this king James". those who translated the bible were not ordinary men but "religious leaders"- Psalm 83:18)

    This wild beast was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them.

    ( Example:70 C.E Destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans. Hitler Germany concentration camp

    slaughter holy ones from 1933 to 1945 etc. Religious leaders supported him and walked with Hitler holding up arms with him) has authority over every tribe, and people, and tongue,

    and nation.

    This wild beat descends out of the earth;

    tells others to make an image. (what images can you think of?)

    Those who refuse to worship this image to the wild beast is killed.

    who are mislead by this man (#666 mark/more then one man) influenced by Satan the devil?

    and who is mislead to worship and bow to this image?

    All people (Follows the wild beast or with admiration, worships it)

    1. The rich

    2. The poor

    3. The free

    4. The slaves

    This wild beast (This Man, a PERSON, He/This mark 666 has authority.

    any man who had or has this mark) buys and sells

    ( Luke 4:6 This Wild beast is very rich from those worshiping and admiring him)

    Hope this helps
  • Messenger - in Reply
    Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy (Your) face shalt (should) thou eat bread, till thou (You) return unto (to) the ground; for out of it wast (was) thou taken (taken): for dust thou (you) art (be or are), and unto (to) dust shalt thou return. (Dust you should/shall Return)

    So the Dead returns to Dust. But again Jesus will judge the Dead. And resurrect the Dead. Back to their original human self. Back here on earth. John 5:28,29; 2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:3-5

    Hope this helps
  • POINTS OF INTEREST FROM GENESIS_mishael
    We should all go read the Commentaries on GENESIS 3. Satan Chose the form of a serpent. He DID NOT POSSESS DOMINION AND AUTHORITY at that point. (The deception). SATAN borrowed the body of a serpent.

    Adam was with Eve. For whatever reason, he didn't stomp Satan. He had the authority.

    Very much like we do. We have the Dominion from Genesis; plus the AUTHORITY OF JESUS CHRIST (legally taken from Satan at the Cross. We don't use it to get the devil out of our families or neighborhoods, Govt

    After Cain killed Abel; Eve had Seth. The child that the seed of Christ continued throughuntil Bethlehem. Adam and Eve had "other sons and daughters". However, the seed was through Seth.

    Why? It was the Will of God. Also, Adam and Eve's other children are not in the Genealogy.



    Eve was tempted the same as if someone set a plate of apple pie in front of her with ice cream on top. The form satan chose to tempt her, was a serpent. Adam was with her. He didn't rip that fruit out of her hand. In not acting out, he conceded.

    There was no SEDUCTION; just Temptation.

    As soon as it happened, the Garden of Eden became forbidden. They were all driven out.

    Satan won the AUTHORITY; which is what he was after. But Adam/Mankind still had DOMINION.

    In the perfection of time, Jesus would rip that AUTHORITY out of Satans hands. Jesus was the Son of Man: all Human, and All Man. He had to be human just as we are, in order to become a sacrifice (pleasing and acceptable to God). For our SINS. His death on the Cross TOOK BACK THE AUTHORITY THAT SATAN STOLE FROM ADAM.

    Jesus gives that Authority to each and every person who receives salvation and is BORN AGAIN.

    No offense, but Satan is a created being; made archangel. Nevertheless he is neither male nor female. He cannot procreate. He can only invade willing humans who offer him a body (like witches or warlocks; Chaldeans) He will inhabit Antichrists body; probably when Antichrist suffers a head wound.
  • Glenn - in Reply on Genesis 9
    Nakedness ; meaning Ham had sexual relationship with his mother,

    And did you mean Cain ? ,.. if so , Eve was the mother of both Cain an Able , they were twins , by different Fathers,.. Cain of course of the Devil , for she partook of the tree of good an evil ,.. an Able of Adam ,.. hence the very first prophesy of our Heavenly Father, genesis 3 vs 15 ,..
  • Dgjot - in Reply
    @Grace- You said:

    "Musta been, since we 'know' "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." ( Genesis 3:20"

    The big question everyone asks is: who did Cain marry? Many people assume that there were only the 3 of them (Adam, Eve & Cain) on the entire planet.

    (This is after Cain killed Abel and God punishes him:)

    13And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

    14Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

    15And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

    16And Cain went OUT from the presence of the LORD, and DWELT IN THE LAND OF NOD, on the east of Eden.

    17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

    My question is:

    ".....that every one that findeth me shall slay me." WHO IS EVERY ONE???

    ".....Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain....." WHO IS WHOSOEVER????

    '.....And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived..." Where did he get his wife from, if there were only the 3 of them (Adam, Eve & Cain) on the entire planet?????? Did his mother become his wife??

    Cain married one on of the descendants of the 6th-day-created people.
  • The Messenger - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Revelation was written and represented in signs. meaning using people, persons (Warning examples of wicked people and their actions) to describe the message. for example, according to Revelations 6:1-8:

    1.The Red Horse: Peace taken from the earth.. They will slaughter one another (Civil wars, the deadly war WWI & WWII etc.)

    2. The Black Horse: (Famine The Great depression etc.)

    3. The pale Horse: Deadly plague...The Grave/Death ( 1918 influenza pandemic, HIV, Flu, Common cold,

    Covid-19,Delta variant etc.)

    Why is the world in critical condition?

    Satan was hurled down from heaven and is misleading nations rulers and kings:

    1 John 5:19; Genesis 3; Genesis chapter 6 and 9;

    Luke and Matthew 4; Ephesians 6:11-13; Revelation 12:7-12;

    2 Corinthians 4:4

    What is the result of Satan the devil's influence:

    2 Timothy 3:1-7

    Matthew 24

    1 Corinthians 6:9,10; Ephesians 5:5

    What will Jesus do since his father gave him all authority?

    ( Matthew 24:14;28:18-20)

    1. Revelation 11:15;20 Chapter

    2. Revelation 11:18

    3. John 5:28,29; Revelation 21:3-5;22 Chapter

    Who is law for?

    1 Timothy 1:8-10

    2 Timothy 3:16,17

    john 17:3
  • Dgjot - in Reply on 1 Timothy 5:12
    To David and Adam from Dgjot:

    I wasn't the one that said "The Bible seems to contradict itself sometimes......"

    I was replying to Donna Pittman.

    Keep in mind that in the Bible, things aren't always as cut and dried as they seem.

    (eg. Jesus talked in parables and then had to explain to his disciples what they meant.)

    For over 2000 years, godly men have studied, studied, studied the scriptures. They wrote books & commentaries and explained things we wouldn't have noticed or understood. Right? I'm no Bible scholar but I've read some of those books/commentaries or listened to Bible teachers. In the Bible, things aren't always as cut and dried as they seem.

    (Like in Revelation 12:3 where it talks about, "a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads." C'mon man. It's not an actual dragon. It's symbolic of a political system, or something.)

    Regarding Eve: Genesis 3:13 "And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

    Beguiled = wholly seduced. There's a good chance Eve was already pregnant with Cain when "Adam knew her".

    More than likely, Cain was the offspring of Satan and Eve. By murdering his brother Abel, he did HIS FATHER'S bidding.

    Abel was the offspring of Adam and Eve, as was Seth. Abel was murdered and God replaced him with Seth.

    Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."

    That doesn't necessarily mean that everyone "living" came strictly from Adam and Eve. Since all the great men of the bible came from Seth's bloodline, including Jesus- "all living" could mean "Spiritually" living. As opposed to the Spiritually dead like Cain.

    I know this all sounds insane but there's a chance there might be a grain of truth in it.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - in Reply
    dgjot: "The world wasn't populated by just two people. God created all the races on the 6th day...I don't understand why people disregard this and think Adam and Eve were the only two people on the planet."

    Musta been, since we 'know' "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." ( Genesis 3:20) Amen?
  • Rick - in Reply
    Robin reed Robin I apologize in my comment After Ecclesiastes verses should be and in Genesis 3:19 from dust thous art and from dust thou shalt return. Helps to closely proofread. In His Service
  • Rick - in Reply
    IMKane The Gospel or the good news consist of Everything God has done in his word to bring to pass the birth the ministry the sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus christ so that fallen man could be redeemed and God would have the family He always wanted from the Beginning in Genesis. Jesus Christ is the main subject matter from Genesis 3:15 to Revelation 22:21. In His Service
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Michael may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS truth and His understanding.

    Genesis 2:8 ..... the tree of THE KNOWLEDGE of good and evil

    The fruit would have to be; knowledge of good and evil.

    Genesis 3:21 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man has become like one of us (gods), to know good and evil .....

    Since we will eventually be the FULLNESS of Christ (gods) ( Ephesians 4:13), it was necessary that man eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Ted.

    Satan is the prince of this world and The world also hate Jesus.

    Here's why the world hated Jesus.

    This persecution Started in Genesis and on through us today. Genesis 3:15.

    John 7:7. The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, BECAUSE I TESTIFY OF IT, THAT THE WORKS THEREOF ARE EVIL

    And the world presently hates Jesus disciples as well as any people who has a role in God's redemption program.

    The Lord called out Abraham and blessed him and Made an unconditional covenant with him. And he would be the Father of many nations Genesis 17:4-13.

    Galatians 4:28. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

    Galatians 3:28-29. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    God is not done with Israel as some think,

    And the Church did not replace Israel.

    They play a role in the future.

    Acts 15:14-16. Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

    And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

    ( AFTER THIS I WILL RETURN, AND WILL BUILD AGAIN THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID, )

    which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

    This is a spiritual warfare!!

    That's the short of it. Perhaps someone can go into more detail.

    God bless.

    .
  • Dianne - in Reply on Psalms 4
    Robert The key focus of the word of God from Genesis 3;15 to Revelation 22:21 is the centerpiece of scripture Jesus Christ and all the ways God had to work to redeem man. There are in the old testament alone over 400 prophecies of our messiah. Within that framework is history of Gods dealing with Jews, Gentiles, and Church of God and at the Revealing of Jesus Christ or Revelation. In the Gospel of Luke is a teaching that would have been mind blowing to hear, Luke 24: 25-32 that's what the scriptures do make known Christ. God Bless
  • Ronald L Whittemore - in Reply
    Teresa johnson,

    We see in Job the sons of God are angels ( Job 1"6) ( Job 2:1) and ( Job 38:7). There are demons on the earth that I hope you never have to contend with because these are vicious beings. How or why they are here is not in scripture, there are writings outside of the Bible but whether they are true is in question. But what does scripture tell us?

    We see in Scripture angels appearing in the form of man, able to eat, drink, and have physical contact with humans. ( Genesis 18:2-8) ( Genesis 32:24-30). We are also told to be careful entertaining strangers because they could be an angel, ( Hebrews 13:2). The angels that left their first estate were treated differently, they were locked in chains of darkness (bottomless pit) until judgment, they are not roaming this earth.

    Angels have no need to reproduce in their present estate like humans. If angels by choosing to leave their first estate can procreate, that is what we see in ( Genesis 6:1-4), and is probably the reason those angels were locked up in darkness because they corrupted God's creation of mankind, that God destroyed with the flood.

    Angels and demons are roaming the earth. We see in Daniel 10 good angels and bad angels battle each other here on earth, same as we battle these beings, these may be part of the third that will be cast down with Satan. We see they rejoice in heaven when this happens and say woe unto those on earth.

    We know by Job Satan has access to heaven because he went with the sons of God when they presented themselves to God, ( Job 1:6-12). Some take Revelation 12 as in the past, but if we look at what is said. Satan is the accuser and accuses us daily. If you read Revelation 12 you will see in vs. 8, Satan has no more place in heaven. In vs. 11 they overcome Satan by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives until death, this is in the future, not the past.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Brian R. on Revelation 21
    ( Revelation 7:14-15) The first resurrection:

    14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

    ( Revelation 21:3-7) The second resurrection:

    1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

    2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

    3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of Godiswith men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them,and betheir God.

    4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

    5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

    6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

    7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

    "One of Us" comes full circle:

    Genesis1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...

    Genesis 3:22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us...


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