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Galatians 6 KJV Bible discussions
  • I Am A Real Baptist Brider 1979 - in Reply

    I believe God's plan of finance for His Baptist Church's is to be tithes and offerings. Scriptural giving is one of the fundamentals of the faith. I believe that every Believer, as a steward of that portion of God's wealth entrusted to him or her, is obligated to support his or her Baptist Church financially. I believe that God has established the tithe as a basis of giving but that every Believer should also give other offerings sacrificially and cheerfully to the support of his or her Baptist Church for the relief of those in need, and the spread of the Gospel. I believe that Church members are commanded to bring their tithes and offerings into the Storehouse (Common Treasury) of their Baptist Church upon the first day of the week (Sunday). I believe that a Believer relinquishes all rights to direct the use of the tithe or offering once the gift has been made. I believe under grace we give, and do not pay, the tithe - "Abraham GAVE a tenth part of all." "Abraham GAVE the tenth part of the spoils," and this was four hundred years before the Law, and is confirmed in the New Testament, the Lord Jesus Himself said concerning the tithe, "... these ought ye to have done ..." ( Genesis 14:20; Leviticus 27:30; Proverbs 3:9, 10; Malachi 3:10; Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42; Acts 4:34, 35, 37; 1 Corinthians 16:2; 2 Corinthians 8:7; 2 Corinthians 9:6, 7; Galatians 6:6; Ephesians 4:28; 1 Timothy 5:17, 18; Hebrews 7:2, 4; 1 John 3:17).
  • MountHoreb - in Reply
    Yes thanks

    Galatians 6:9

    2 Timothy 3:16,17
  • MountHoreb - in Reply
    Like your reply,

    Galatians 6:9

    2 Timothy 3:16,17
  • MountHoreb - in Reply
    Beautiful reply,

    Galatians 6:9
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Gigi.

    In Galatians 6:15-16 we've already established that Paul is speaking of the Church.

    However it's clear he's talking about the two people in the body.

    "The circumcision and the uncircumcision."

    That's clear from verses 12-15.

    Vs 15) "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

    Here in vs 16 he's clearly still dealing with the same two groups that make up the Church.

    vs 16) "And as many as walk according to this rule, ( PEACE BE ON THEM,) and mercy, ( AND UPON THE ISRAEL OF GOD.)

    If the Israel of God is the Church, Who do you say "the them" is?

    There's definitely two groups within the Church Paul is speaking on from vs 12 onwards.

    There's no way or reason to cross them up being that the circumcision is always speaking of Israel so the Israel of God relates to them.

    And the uncircumcision always refers to the Gentiles and "Them" refers to the Gentiles.

    The entire context is on "the two" in Christ.

    So yes I do disagree.

    I do agree with you that Romans 11 says the Gentiles are grafted into the vine. And the Church is made up as Jews and Gentiles.

    No ones debating that.

    However that has nothing to do with what Paul is saying in Galatians 6:12-16.

    And it has nothing to do with my point.

    My point is the Church is not called the Israel of God in the scripture.

    More to come

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Gigi.

    Part 1

    This exercise is not to promote a eschatological viewpoint or to explain neither dispensationalism or covenant theology.

    It's to give understanding on how one uses hermeneutics when forming eschatological views.

    This exercise will give us a chance to examine our approach to scripture whether it's fundamentally, figuratively, allegorically, ect.

    It's not intended to promote eschatological views, It's the approach to scripture as a whole is what's being examined.

    So it's not a breakdown of whatever theological category we espouse..

    Its simply does God mean what he says? Does God change his mind? And what is the word of God actually saying?

    It's also paying close attention to detail on scripture and putting it in context. Especially when linked to the covenants and promises without focusing on a particular theology.

    Here's an example;

    Galatians 6:12-16.

    verse 16 is a scripture that causes a lot of controversy.

    vs16- "And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on (THEM,) and mercy, and upon the ISRAEL OF GOD.

    (Who's the them? The believing Gentiles! ) uncircumcised.


    Paul is completing his distinction he was making between the two believing groups he was talking about in the previous verse.

    Vs 15) For in Christ Jesus neither CIRCUMCISION availeth any thing, nor UNCIRCUMCISION, but a new creature.

    Who's the Israel of God? ( The believing Circumcised) Israelites.

    Paul is saying in Christ we're all the same.

    He's not calling the Church the Israel of God. Read through it from verse 12.

    See example part 2.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Amen Gigi!

    That was beautifully said.

    Reminds me of Galatians 6:1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

    We all came to Christ by his mercy and grace. No one is perfect, we are to bestow the same Love, Longsuffering, and mercy on others as Christ bestowed on us.

    However if someone comes with another Gospel "Which there is no other" We are not to give him God speed. But if someone is zealous in a area that you are not that shouldn't cause division. God may have prepared a different role for him.

    Amen and God bless.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Richard.

    You've said a mouth full, especially when you said;

    Quoting you;

    A-.. "people that are tightly knit look out for one another and are able to help us to keep boundaries and hopefully accountability in our lives.

    I believe when we are tightly knit together we should be consider Galatians 6:1-4. when we have this brother that seems to be out of line in conduct.

    ( If we love him we would help him! )

    "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, RESTORE SUCH AN ONE IN THE SPIRIT OF MEEKNESS; CONSIDERING THYSELF, LEST THOU ALSO BE TEMPTED.

    Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

    For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

    But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another."

    Continuing Quoting you;

    B-.. This; of course is a two way street; we shouldn't expect a hypocritical standard where the leadership can live in open rebellion while expecting everyone else to have a legalistic standard."

    This is where Galatians 6:1 says "considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted." comes into effect.

    Today we prefer not restore or help someone, or maybe there is no fault to be found.

    We shun that person without any attempt to reason.

    These differences and confusion may be found in

    1 Corinthians 12:13-23

    It's the Spirit that harmonize us without partiality or hypocrisy.

    This is where fleshly discernment has its flaws in partiality and hypocrisy.

    The Spirit of truth should harmonize both parties and we trust and submit to that.

    There's a side to truth that isn't pleasant in a culture where we rather lie and present ourselves as pleasant. Because a rebuke is not often taken well, and even when done meekly it's not cultural so it is deemed as unpleasant.

    If a "BROTHERN" needs help you help him, you don't shun him.

    This is why we examine ourselves.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer
    Fruit of the Spirit.

    Part 2.

    The flesh wants to have its way and is actually in competition against the Holy Spirit. So there is a danger of producing something besides fruit. And that which the flesh produces is not something that God can use; it's not fruit at all.

    Paul himself experienced that struggle and described it in Romans 7:15:

    For what I am doing [the new man wanted to produce fruit], I do not understand [the old nature would not do it].

    You can be a child of God and be producing works of the flesh in your life, and if you are, you are not living by the Spirit of God. And I can tell you, if the works of the flesh are appearing in your life, you are a discontented and troublemaking child of God.

    Paul was speaking to believers when he said:

    Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. Galatians 6:7-9.

    See Part 3.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Thanks For those kind words Brother Chris.

    I concur with you on Satan and his devices. He's described as a roaring lion. When a lion roar, he scatters his pray. Doctrinally we seems pretty scattered to me. Especially with so many denominations, partiality, and passiveness.

    Most of the church damage has been done from the inside.

    A site like this has its difficulties because you can't pull one to the side and talk out an issue. It's difficult to show meekness on pin and paper when applying

    Galatians 6:1.

    We treat the church like a membership we leave at the church building until the following Sunday.

    What good are we to Christ if our light only shines inside the walls of the church and closed doors. We are the salt of the world.!

    All scripture should be considered all our life and everywhere we go!

    If we were in the public and someone was to announce us as the church would you denounce it? No. We would atleast would say we're Church members!

    But when we gather on a site such as this we leave off the teachings of Paul where he teaches structure in the Church. As well as several other virtuous scriptures from various writers.

    Israel was set apart from the world and when they wondered in the wilderness they were still Israel. Likewise the church is still a church outside the church building.

    And you are still a follower of Christ teachings when you are by yourself in the world as a witness.

    If we denounce that we are not an ambassador of Christ.

    God bless you Brother for all you do.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Amen Phil.

    Well Stated! I think you covered it all, there's not much to add to what you have said. Perhaps I can dig up a few scriptures that goes well with what you have stated.

    I agree with that we can't judge the heart of man to be able to judge/condemn him. Romans 14:4.

    Also Matthew 7:1-5 possibly is speaking of condemning as well.

    Some of these would probably help being read in the Greek.


    There's several scriptures that say we should correct one in their error, here's one and the mindset we should have while doing it.


    Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

    For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

    But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

    For every man shall bear his own burden.

    In doing this I believe we should use the word of God. ( Hebrews 4:12-13)

    This can be troublesome! How well this person takes this rebuke depends on their spiritual condition as well.

    Paul says this kind of judgment is to be kept in house.

    1 Corinthians 6:1-6.

    Today some judge from a carnal mind. "One look at him and we think we got him figured out."

    Also culture gets in the way. We compromise TRUTH for politeness. This also can be difficult.

    We compliment someone's dead works "Efforts to glorify self" and we ignore their fruitlessnes or incorrect doctrine.

    NOTE: If there's incorrect doctrine they believe in, that would certainly affect their fruitfulness.

    We are to build one another up with the truth not flattery.

    We should handle God's word cautiously and be open for improvement.

    Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 1 Corinthians 5:6.

    God bless you.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Romans 11
    Exodus 12:48,49, Exodus 20:10, Leviticus 16, Leviticus 17,

    Leviticus 18:26, Leviticus 19:33,34,

    John 1:12, Romans 8:14,

    Acts 13:39, Galatians 2:16, Deuteronomy 10:16, Galatians 6:15, Romans 2:25, Romans 4,

    Romans 3:29-30

    Here are just a few, there are many, hopefully these are helpful to your study & decision
  • D W L
    Romans 8:1 1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8: 2-14

    Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

    2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

    2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    Galatians 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

    John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. Read John verse 3:1-21
  • Ronnette on 2 Timothy 2
    2 Timothy 2:15 is a powerful verse. If we do not learn how to rightly divide the word of truth, we will be lost understanding the chain of events from the time God brought the Hebrews from the Land of Egypt until The Christ Lord Jesus died on the cross up to our time today which is approximately 2,000 years. Honestly, we do not have time. As you all noticed the rapid days go by quickly as God says 2 Peter 3:8 and you see Psalms 2:1-12

    I do not mind repeating to all that the Bible is a complete book Revelation 19:13 for us today to prepare ourselves and others. I pray all to be saved. We cannot have the people caught unaware of Matthew 24:37. To rightly divide is to know for us today what we need to do. So I will say that the 11 apostles messages are important for the physical Jews Matthew 10:5-7 at the end time; and there are verses in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that pertains to a spiritual Christians of today.

    God had chosen Paul to be His vessel so we can read and believe not in vain. Study the Book of Romans to Philemon because he was the Last and believe it or not the 12th Apostle Galatians 1:1, Acts 9:15, Acts 13:47, Acts 22:21, Roman's 11:13, Ephesians 3:8, 1 Timothy 2:7, Galatians 1:16. After Jesus died He says Hebrews 9:14-17. Then you are Ephesians 1:12-14, 2 Timothy 2:19 and 2 Corinthians 1:22. Therefore, 1 Corinthians 9:2 just like Romans 15:28. Ephesians 4:30 and sing Psalms 49:8, 111:9, 130:7. In conclusion my fellow-believers, Paul is sealed 1 Corinthians 9:2 by God to be our apostle today. Weneedtoputtheworkof Paul not in vain Galatians 6:11. Paul tells us Romans 2:16, Romans 16:25, 2 Timothy 2:8. And the gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Then we are sealed Ephesians 1:13. Perhaps you are not understanding me because Revelation 18:4, Proverbs 20:1, Roman's 7:11, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Corinthians 15:33, Galatians 6:7, 1 Timothy 2:14, 2 Timothy 3:13, Titus 3:3, and lastly Revelation 18:23. Psalm 37:1-40 then we meditate Psalms 27:1-3. Shalom/Agape.
  • D W L on Galatians 6
    Jim Tidwell on Galatians 6

    John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. -- Read John 3:1-21

    Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

    2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a (new) creature: old things are passed away; behold, (all) things are become new.

    Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. (3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: (4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    Romans 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

    Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

    Matthew 25: They were all virgins but 5 were lost --read the chapter

    John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    ( John 3:7 Jesus said ye must be born again)

    We all can find a verse that tells us what we want to hear, there will be many lost after he says depart from me. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
  • Giannis - in Reply on Proverbs 17
    Dear Dr. Bill

    Not all the scripture below are totally relevant, but I think they will help:

    Matthew 18:15-18

    1 Corinthians 5:1-5

    1 Corinthians 5:9-13

    Galatians 6:1

    1 Timothy 1:3-4

    1 Timothy 1:20

    1 Timothy 5:1-2

    1 Timothy 5:19-20

    1 Timothy 6:3-5

    2 Timothy 4:2-4

    Titus 1:10-11

    Titua 3:10-11

    Philemon 1:8-9

    2 John 1:9-11

    Rev 2:14

    Rev 2:20

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  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Micha.

    Absolutely! And I would take it one step further, We will wash one another's feet. "Humblely caring for one another in a way we be our brothers keeper as we walk through the filth of this world and pick up it's ways. We are to restore such a person as seen here in Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

    God bless.
  • D W L on Hebrews 12:1
    James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: (This is the word of God - not an opinion)

    Romans 6:15-23 (verse 18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

    Galatians 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (comment-What if you die suddenly while committing one of the above)

    Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. ( There is a difference in a fault and willful sin)
  • Ronnette on Matthew 24
    1 Thessalonians 3:10. I prayed and re-read the Bible. 2 Timothy 2:15. Matthew 24:4-5. If you are guided by the Holy Spirit of God, Colossians 2:2-3. Grow in grace and Charity 2 Peter 3:18; 1 Corinthians 13:4-9. Colossians 3:14. Many of you 2 Timothy 3:10. Galatians 6:6. Galatians 6:10. All scriptures tie out-Old Testament and New Testament. God directed my paths to be a very honest Corporate Auditor on earth to testify that the Bible is true and indeed cannot lie. Men lie. Every word in KJV Bible you can follow stories upon stories for us to know and learn what to do. There is no man can pervert the word of God, except you are lost. I pray that all be saved. Read the Bible and be guided by the Holy Spirit; Cover to cover are blessed and believe 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. All scriptures directed in the end to The blood of Jesus Christ for the world salvation. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22

    Revelation 3:2. Thank you for the opportunities to communicate through written comments to some of you. Thank you for the website Agape.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Galatians 6
    Galatians 6:15,

    Please see context: Deuteronomy 10:16, Deuteronomy 30:6, even in old testament men have argued their holiness, set apart status, (in the flesh) yet GOD said even then; it's about the heart. Jeremiah 4:4, Jeremiah 9:25, = Romans 2:29, Romans 3:30, Romans 4:11, 1Corinthians 7:18,

    Galatians 3:28,

    They were still arguing circumcision, not equality in GOD. Acts 11:2, Galatians 2:12,

    New= 2Corinthians 5:17,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Mary on Galatians 6
    Please explain in simple terms Galatians 6:15
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Matthew 4:1, Mark 14:38, Luke 8:55, Luke 11:13, Luke 23:46, Luke 24:39, John 3:5,6, John 4:23,24, John 6:63, John 14:17, 1Corinthians 12:3, 1Corinthians 15:45, Galatians 5:16,17, Galatians 5:22-25, Galatians 6:8, Ephesians 1:17, 1Thessalonians 5:23, James 2:26,

    Romans 8, Hebrews 4:12,

    Warning, 1Timothy 4:1,

    1John 4:1-11, 1John 4,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study of your spirit & flesh; (body)
  • Paul - in Reply
    Thank you for your input.

    To be saved by grace would mean God decides our salvation, not us.

    For we can't save ourselves but we must try believing grace will abound.

    And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: ( Revelation 2:26)

    Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. ( James 4:7)

    To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, ( Revelation 2:7)

    Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. ( James 1:12)

    The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us ( 1 Peter 3:19-21)

    Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. ( Galatians 6:2)
    Proverbs 11:2 - When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

    Proverbs 16:5 - Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

    Proverbs 29:23 - A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

    Proverbs 16:18 - Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

    Galatians 6:3 - For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

    James 4:6 - But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

    Proverbs 27:2 - Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

    Proverbs 26:12 - Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

    Philippians 2:3 - Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

    Proverbs 8:13 - The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

    Jeremiah 9:23 - Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:

    1 John 2:16 - For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

    Romans 12:16 - Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

    Mark 7

    20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

    21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

    22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

    23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
  • Free - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Dear BILL WHITTINGHILL, in peace, yes it was a mistake, if u read further u will find that God Himself regret that He made human.

    Genesis 6:6 And today we are the chosen one too set thing in order. Example 1 Peter 2:6 John 14:6 Make ppl see Jesus Christ only in Him thru The Holy Goust can we see God. Many see a different God today, but are driven away, becouse of the eval who is in them and the eval in the spiritual world, who every one not see. Ephesians 6:12-19 W e all need to come thru in Jesus.

    I know nice ppl who have going too church for 40 years and they have the holy spirit in one way, but are bounded in television and work. I belive that God have a place for them. What i try to tell is: Not everybody sees the Spirit of the Holy. And remember we have all different work in the Lord. 1 Corintihans 12 And in that the eval can grow if they dont stop it by a gift they have. A friend may se it and pray to stop it.

    Galatians 6:2

    Thats why Paul continue to tell us, dont give up! We must be standfast in the Word of God and dont complane. And Love Jesus and all ppl, and rases.

    God bless us all in Jesus name, love u in Christ
  • Doug - in Reply on Romans 8
    Marke, I am very confused by what you are saying. You are implying that one remaining faithful to Christ is somehow comparable to being late to work? You're saying murderers & adulterers can still be assured of salvation? This is free grace heresy.

    Galatians 6: 7-9 "7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of THE SPIRIT REAP LIFE EVERLASTING. 9 And let US not be weary in well doing: for in due season WE shall reap, IF WE faint not." It's safe to say Paul was saved & writing to fellow believers. Notice how he says "we". If eternal security was unconditional I just wonder why he said we reap "life everlasting", including himself, if it can't be lost.

    And, is murder and adultery sewing to the flesh or the spirit? The flesh! So, you just said we are still secure in salvation if we murder or commit adultery. Yet, the Bible says only those who sew to the spirit and don't quit will inherit eternal life. I just find this logic completely un-biblical and foreign to the church before the reformation.

    Just because God's word teaches we must remain faithful to Christ doesn't make us "Legalists". That's a cop-out from the OSAS crowd who don't want to acknowledge we play a role in our relationship w/ Christ. Let's also not mistake "faith" and "works". You can try to twist faith to be a "work" but faith will always be faith. If remaining faithful to Christ is somehow a "work" then one could logically say that one's initial profession of faith is also a "work". Because, after all, to the OSAS crowd they appear to be more focused on their own one time profession than the relationship w/ Christ. Scripture always talking of us "walking" with Christ, and receiving the end of our faith, eternal life ( 1 Jn 2: 24-25; Rom. 6:22). Biblically speaking, only those who endure to the end in faith will inherit eternal life.
  • S Spencer
    Brother Giannis none of this section isn't directed towards you, and thank you for sharing.

    Galatians 6:16.

    Here's a verse that the replacement theologist often uses.

    They combine that with Romans 9:6 and off they go.

    Totally ignoring the surrounding scriptures and the context of the chapter, sometimes several chapters such as Romans Chs 9,10,11.

    Let's look at the Israel of God in Galatians and the false teachings of some.

    Here's the situation Paul is dealing with. Galatians 3:1-5.

    You have to include the previous verses to get the context.

    Galatians 6:12-16. Paul is talking about the Church, BUT what is often missed is he divides them into 2 groups.

    Vs. 15) For in Christ Jesus neither CIRCUMCISION availeth any thing, nor UNCIRCUMCISION, but a new creature.

    Vs,16) And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on "THEM," and mercy, and upon the "Israel of God."

    Notice THEM in verse 16, "Uncircumcised, Gentiles"

    The Israel of God, " Circumcised! Messianic Israelites". Children of the promise mentioned in

    Romans 9:8.

    So you see also in Romans 9:6, Paul is referring to those offspring of Abraham whether Ishmaelites, Arabian, Egyptian, or Israelites.

    And those of the Promise, The remnant,

    For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

    But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

    Galatians 4:22-23.

    Here's the Context.

    For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

    Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

    Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Romans 9:3-5.

    You see if you put it in context it explains itself.

    You have to twist a lot of scripture to make these passages the Church.

    God bless.
  • Richard H Priday - in Reply on Matthew 6
    The concept here appears to be doing things to be seen of men. The word "reward" can be taken as the consequences of our actions; heaped up ( Psalm 91:8). This is; according to that passage so bad that we will only see it from afar. We reap what we sow; whether to the flesh or the Spirit ( Galatians 6:7-9). What is considered honorable among me is an abomination to God ( Luke 16:15-16). Our prayers are to be in secret; so that we can be seen in Matthew 6:6 that our reward is from God Himself.

    This brings up the issue of just when prayer should be corporate and when it should be private. This fits in; of course with the "good deeds" that we do to help others (let not your left hand know what your right hand doeth) Matthew 6:3-4. The whole concept here is not to draw attention to how "righteous" we are through an outer display. That gets into another verse where it states in Matthew 5:34 as well as in the book of James that we are to swear by no name; but simply say yes or no. Clearly; this needs to be taken in context; as covenants such as marriage still are in effect and other such vows. Again; the focus is to be on not being hypocrites who wish to be praised but to glorify God. Verses that indicate we are to bear one another's burdens; confess sins to one another and that in Acts where Peter was being prayed for and the prison cell opened ( Acts 12:5) surely shows how appropriate prayers are given in corporate settings. Many testimonies; however indicate how some old lady was praying for a person when in open rebellion for many years and how they changed. "The effectual prayers of a righteous man availeth much" ( James 5:16-18).

    Clearly; it isn't worth seeking praise of men during this short life; which is as a vapor; when eternity awaits. Christ Himself saw the "reward" for His sufferings in bringing "many sons to glory" ( Heb. 2:10; Eph. 1:18). In the end; sin doesn't pay; and all glory goes to God. Agape-RIch P
  • Richard H Priday on 2 Kings 20
    This section brings the power of life and death to prominence. After Isaiah's prophecy about King Hezekiah's imminent death; the Lord chose to heed to his prayers and add 15 years to his life. He was also going to give deliverance from Assyria for His own purposes as well as "David's sake" (v. 6). Verses 9-11 show the sign asked for to confirm his healing at the Temple. That was a REVERSAL of the sun's position back to where it was before it was in the incident of Ahaz. That was when the sun AND moon were stopped; i.e. indicating the earth's rotation or a more complex reaction of various orbits or perhaps time itself being held back. Of course; now that the sun is back to where it was previously it takes some diligence searching the historical record for this; I believe some have done this. It surely would be as significant worldwide as the darkness for a few hours when Christ was dying.

    The rest of the passage refers to Babylon being shown all the treasure. After the Assyrians eventually turned from appeasement to military foe; one would think such actions would be; as the Prophet Isaiah stated-be an unwise action. Hezekiah's character flaw also would be in not seeking God to delay further His diaspora predicted; instead of just being content that it wouldn't happen in his time. (v. 19). This shows short sightedness in general; especially in light of clear evidence of answered prayer. This is why we should always persevere in prayer and not grow weary in doing good. ( Galatians 6:9).

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