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  • Apostolic Evangelist - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Im sorry but Moses was given the 10 commandments no where in the Bible of the New testament dose it say to continue in animal sacrifice. Christ Yeshua is our new covenant. Could I ask you what scripture do you refer to in Galatians. For in Galatians 2:18 St Paul destroyed the works of the Law, The transgressor here is one who tries to reinstitute the Jewish Law.

    We die through the law not bypassing or dishonoring it but by recongnizing that it is holy, that we deserve its consequence death and that we voluntarily die to the Law through our death with Christ being crucified with Christ through Baptism we come alive to the law of the Spirit which perfects the intention of the OT law. There is no contradiction between law and gospel. The law is holy and just and good ROM 7:12 However the Law is weak Rom 8:3 and obsolete Heb 8:13 for it is fulfilled in the gospel in Christ Himself....God bless you
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear "Vicky" we pray, and in your case you need the Holy Spirit. Please join Galatians 2:11-21 and remember that the Word of God is sharper than a double-edged sword.

    God bless you finest girl, pray that you will be enabled to serve all over the earth in Jesus Christ Holy Name. Amen
  • Ron - In Reply on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    A little off topic, but I wonder if Paul knew that Moses was a murderer? Exodus 2:11-15

    In his retelling of Moses's killing of the Egyptian in Acts 7:23-29, Luke casts Moses in the image of Jesus, as a rejected deliverer. What's that called when govt does that same thing with their fallen heroes?

    The Israelites' rejection of Moses, which Luke reads into Exodus 2:11-15, is placed in parallel to the Jews' rejection of Jesus, which is understood as the crux of Christianity's break from Judaism.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    Hello Roy,

    There was a long thread in the last week concerning this. You may search back a few pages and find the thread.

    Also, I suggest reading all of Galatians and all of Romans in order to understand Paul's teaching fully. To take just one portion or verse as a proof text does not serve this topic well.
  • William legon - In Reply on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    Paul is trying to get the people to understand the is full filled now we look to Jesus.
  • Roy on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    Sounds like Paul is preaching against following the law of Moses?

    Comment please
  • Cindy R Wiggins Tapia - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jernej, we are not robots. God gave us free will to do His will or to do evil. You can choose between porn and God's commandments. It is hard, but all things are possible with God. Ask Him to forgive you and mean it by repenting, that is, never doing it again. Immerse yourself in Him by praying, reading His Word, singing, going to church, seeking fellowship with other Christians. When the devil gives you the urge to go back to porn, rebuke him and he will flee. James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

    Here are other verses that will help you.

    --Corinthians 10:5 Take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. Philippians 4:8: Whatever is... true, noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable, excellent and praiseworthy.

    -- Romans 8:38,39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    -- Ps. 56:3 Whenever I am afraid, I will trust in You.

    -- Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

    -- 1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

    -- Psalms 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

    -- Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

    -- Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

    Let this be your aim:

    -- Galatians 2:20 - I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

    May God bless you!
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    Simple you misunderstand it's circumcised not baptized, 3But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
  • Chris - In Reply on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    Hi Wayne. Do you mean, "why was Titus not required to be circumcised"?

    If that's what you're enquiring about, then that was, in part, because Titus was a Gentile (a Greek) & not a Jew. Every Jewish male at eight days of age, was required to be circumcised ( Genesis 17:10-12 ff) as part of the Covenant God made with Israel, separating them as a special people from the surrounding heathen.

    When the Apostle Paul & Barnabas went up to Jerusalem to meet with the Jerusalem Council of Apostles & Elders (see Acts 15:2), he took Titus with them as well. But the Council agreed that Titus, a gentile, should not be circumcised; some were believing & requiring (chiefly by the Judaizers: Galatians 2:4), that gentiles must first be circumcised (i.e. become 'Jews') before they could be accepted as (Christian) believers. So with the agreement & blessing of the Council, the apostles & the early Church were unified that neither circumcision nor the workings of the Law ( Galatians 2:16; Galatians 3:2-13) should ever be imposed on gentiles, even as the Law no longer had strength on anyone (Jew or Gentile) when only God's Grace through faith brought salvation & liberty to those now in Christ. This was a major aspect of the early Church as they battled with not only Gentiles being brought into the body of believers, but that all the Laws that served to show the Jews their inability to keep them, were also now cast aside, because of "Christ is (now brought) the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth" ( Romans 10:4).
  • Wayne Mayo on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    in Galations2, why was Titus not required to be Baptised? What about being Greek exempted

    him?
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Hebrews 11 - 2 years ago
    But faith without works is dead : James 2,

    Not "works of the Law' : Galatians 2:16,

    1 Thessalonians 1:3,
  • Chris - In Reply on Galatians 1 - 2 years ago
    Hello Charles. Apostle Paul gave the reason for this letter in Galatians 1:6-10. The three main points are: 1. that another Gospel was being entertained by the Church; 2. that Paul's apostolic authority, as given him by the Lord, was being questioned; & 3. a re-hash of the Gospel of Christ, of Christian liberty & other matters given.

    1. The Judaizers (Jewish Christians that refused to accept the non-relevance of the Law to Israel as Truth), had entered into this Church (or, other such gatherings in Asia Minor), & began proclaiming, even pontificating their beliefs with flowery speech & convincing arguments. Galatians 1:6-10; 3:1; 4:17. Paul refutes this 'new' teaching of 'faith plus works' ( Galatians 3:2-5).

    2. Paul's apostleship defence. His authority acquired through revelation ( Galatians 1:11-24); it was approved by the Jerusalem Church ( Galatians 2:1-10); it was acknowledged in his rebuke to Peter ( Galatians 2:11-21).

    3. A re-hash of the Truth - an expansion of what they earlier heard from Paul. Was the Spirit received through faith or through the Law? (3:1-5). Of Abraham's faith (3:6-9). Justification only by Faith - the Law given, only to draw men to Christ (3:10 - 4:11). Paul's own testimony (4:12-20). Testimony from an OT allegory (4:21-31).

    This faith (apart from the Law), gives meaning to: full Liberty (5:1-12); genuine Love (5:13-15); enjoying the Fruit of the Spirit in spiritual walk (5:16-26). And then matters pertaining to sin in the Church (6:1-5) & giving for the Lord's Work (6:6-10).

    Paul ends with his closing words (6:11-18): a final warning to beware of any who demand circumcision or keeping the Law (which those teachers even fail to keep). They might do it with false motives, even to avoid persecution from the Jews (6:12) or to boast in being their teachers (6:13), but none of them carry the marks of persecution which Paul has, showing his stand for the Truth & love for the believers.

    I hope this brief explanation answers your question.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Wanita.

    The epistle was written during Paul's third missionary journey, at Corinth where he spent three months. He had just come from Ephesus where he had spent three strenuous years.

    Dr. Griffith Thomas makes an interesting observation: "Certain names point clearly to Corinth as the place whence this Epistle was written." The picture of the gross immorality of the Gentiles in Rome is a picture drawn from the Corinth of Paul's day.

    OCCASION: This letter was brought forth by natural reason. Paul wished to visit Rome on his way to Spain. The letter was taken by Phoebe, deaconess of Cenchrea ( Romans 16:1).

    FOUNDER OF THE CHURCH AT ROME: Paul had not visited Rome when he wrote this epistle. In this respect it is different from all others, with the possible exception of the Epistle to the Colossians. No apostle had preceded Paul to Rome; obviously, Simon Peter had not. The Roman church was largely a gentile church, and Peter was not the apostle to the Gentiles ( Galatians 2:7). Paul's method was not to follow another apostle, and it is not likely he would have gone to Rome had another apostle preceded him.

    Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation. ( Romans 15:20)

    In a very definite sense, Paul was the founder of the church at Rome. This great metropolis drew men to its streets and marketplaces from all over the empire as if it were a magnet. Many whom Paul had led to Christ in other places made their way to Rome and witnessed there. The church in Rome was the assembly of these folk. This is not mere speculation, as Priscilla and Aquila are examples.

    Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my helpers in Christ Jesus. ( Romans 16:3)

    Paul had first met them in Corinth and led them to Christ ( Acts 18:1-3). Later they returned to Rome.

    Paul mentions 35 individuals by name in chapter 16. Of these, 27 were living in Rome at this time. These he must have met elsewhere in the.

    God bless.
  • Dgjot - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Galatians 2:11 (Paul speaking)

    But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

    Galatians 2:14 (Paul speaking)

    But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

    God chose Peter to preach the gospel to the Jews. God chose Paul to preach the gospel to the Gentiles.

    Peter had an advantage Paul did not, in that he walked with Jesus every day, heard His words and witnessed His miracles. And yet he still didn't understand that Jesus is God in the flesh and denied Jesus 3x and even went so far to preach to the unsaved that circumcision (old testament law) is a must to be saved. Paul called him out.

    Saul, an accomplice to the murder of the believers of Christ, was knocked off his horse on the Damascus Road when Jesus appeared to him and spoke to him. When Jesus told him what he must do, did he argue? Nope. He simply did what he was told to do, without whining. Paul was a Jew of the tribe of Benjamin and also a Roman citizen so he knew both the Torah and Roman law and spoke several languages.

    Peter was a simple fisherman and faithless- even after all he saw and heard from Jesus. Is this really the kind of guy you want to listen to? Catholics claim that Peter was the first Pope. What nonsense.

    Of course both were forgiven. Al repentant sinners are forgiven. But if I have to choose between the writings of Peter or Paul, I'll go with Paul. Paul wrote most of what became the New Testament.

    I know we're not supposed to pass judgement on anyone. Even Angels know better than to bring a railing accusation against even the wicked. Just be careful of who or what you listen to.
  • Rick - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Gigi What I see and we really need to keep in mind Peter His heart was always in the right pace even before being

    born again. This guy wanted to take Jesus place at the cross, this guy had the guts to at least try to walk on water,

    this guy is the one who boldly stood up in the temple and gave the first if you will sermon to over 3000 people, so it

    I don't see willful sin I see someone still caught up in the old testament law which is not willful sin just a lack of

    understanding the grace but that just like us always learning.

    Look at Acts 10 When the angel said to cornelius send men to Joppa and find Simon Peter now verse 9 Peter

    Goes to the housetop to pray verse 10 was a vision[it was God showing Him something specific for his head to get] and peter was not

    so to speak out of it he was focused verse 11-16 He sees this three times and still doesn't get it. At that exact moment

    the messenger from cornelius is at the gate and the spirit says go with him!

    Look at Gods timing verses 20-27 explain the trip verse 28 God hath shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Look what it took to convince Peter that what he was about to do was Gods Will.

    When Paul went to Believers at Jerusalem Peter was acting one way around the gentiles when the judeans

    were not around and another way when they were around and that caused some serious division you had Jews siding with one person and then gentiles with another. Then in Galatians 2:14-21 he explains and corrects the error. So I don't see

    willful sin I see respect of persons not intentional and paul explaining look were not supposed to be divided. Peter never

    made an error of heart but of head. That's what I see. God Bless
  • Rick - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Gigi Peter did not willfully sin his thinking was still partially tied into the law by works not seeing the Justification by

    grace of God by believing in what Christ paid for which abolished the works of the law. Galatians 2:14-20 had to be a hot debate because barnabas was caught up in the debate. as a matter of fact Peter was wrong in His head but not in His heart, so he was acting and accusing others according to the law of not walking but He was doing the same thing but

    didn't see it. So that being said yes Peter was absolutely saved. We do the same thing to our when we start thinking if I

    don't dress a certain way or eat certain things or cut my hair a certain way then I'm not walking with God. Gods word says do your best to follow Gods word First and great commandment Love God with all your heart soul mind and strength

    then whatever you believe to do God Bless. I.E. walk in Agapeo This is my understanding God Bless
  • Gigi - In Reply on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    Or just Christian for some.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    Micheline,

    I would guess that all Jews believe in Jesus, but not all agree on who He claimed to be. For those who do agree with His claims and have received Him as their Messiah, those would be called Messianic Jews.
  • Micheline Briggs on Galatians 2 - 2 years ago
    What is the name they call if a jew believes in jesus christ
  • Diane Taylor - In Reply on Job 3 - 2 years ago
    Hello GiGi, What I meant was that there is only one gospel that can save mankind today, and that is the gospel of grace ( Acts 20:24 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 That Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day. Appropriated by faith alone apart from the Mosaic law ( Romans 3:20,21) The gospel of grace and doctrines for the body of Christ, the Church, was a secret ( Romans 16:25, Ephesians 3: 1-11) hidden in the mind of God until revealed to the apostle Paul. In other words, between the time God called Abraham and the calling of the apostle Paul, there was no message of salvation to the Gentile world ( Ephesians 2:11,12). The gospel of grace is most clearly defined in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 " Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures: And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Paul's Gospel: The apostle Paul Holy Spirit inspired of course, repeatedly referred to the gospel of grace as "my gospel"( Romans 2:16, 16:25 Galatians 2:2,7: 2 Timothy 2:8) Paul could say this because the gospel of grace was in fact revealed to Paul alone and he was chosen by the ascended and risen Lord Himself to be the apostle of the Gentiles( Acts 9:15, Romans 11:13) These new revelations came approximately10 years after Pentecost ( Galatians 1:1,11-12;17) All mankind during the age of grace will be judged according to Paul's gospel. " In the day that God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel" Romans 2:16 Paul warned mankind twice in Galatians, anyone that preached any other gospel then what was revealed to him by the ascended Lord Himself will be cursed " Please read Galatians 1: 8-9 KJV
  • Tony Russo - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi, Chris and Rick. I am only going to place English for each text I previously sent in the Greek. Romans 3:22, "Da pisteoos Ieesou Christou," "By THE faith of Jesus Christ," OR, "the faith that comes through Him."

    In Acts 3:16, The faith which is from (Or BY HIM)." "to onoma autou kai hee pistis hee di autou. If this verse were to read "Faith IN Jesus" rather than "Faith BY Him," the only way to translate this is, "OUR faith in Jesus Christ," healed the man!



    Galatians 2:20 reads in the Greek, "Ho de nun zoo en sarki en pistei zoo tee tou Huiou tou Theou." Translators have often used their own theology which can drastically change the true intent of the inspired writers of Scriptur. For instance, look up the Greek for "torment" in Rev 20:10. The English robs God of His mercy and goodness in this last act with the lost. What word do you find in the Greek? Have you traced it? Let me know what you find. You will be amazed at the wealth of meaning the translators took from us!

    I have experienced a profound faith from Christ. Only He could say, at the tomb of Lazarus, John 11:42, of the Father, "I know You always hear Me." My faith has grown to know our Father always hears me if He hears it from the Son!

    He is called our Advocate in 1 John 2:1. He defends us before the Father as High Priest, who offers His own life and merits on the sinner's behalf. Heaven has given us the gift of faith, Ephesians 2:8-9, to know, believe and trust ourselves to the High Priest. This is the only way to the Father that pleases Him. We dare not come to Him in our faith. Otherwise, we are entering the Most Holy Place in our own name and dishonor His Holiness. Death waited for anyone who came into the Holy Place except for the High Priest. It is the devils lie telling us we can become as gods!

    Leviticus 16 has also given me further insight into what was required by the nation of Israel as they worshipped God on the Day of Atonement. On who did they place their faith?
  • Tony Russo - In Reply on Romans 3:4 - 2 years ago
    Hello Chris, You are correct about Romans 3:4, I gave a wrong text! Thank you for your comments. Some may read our thinking as a difference in semantics. Time for the Greek. Romans 3:22 reads in the KJV, "Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe." By faith of Jesus Christ in the Greek reads, , "By THE faith of Jesus Christ," or the faith that comes through Him. In Acts 3:16, "The faith which is From Him" is, " " If instead the phrase reads "faith IN Jesus Christ'" it could only mean OUR faith in Jesus Christ. Galatians 2:20 reads in the Greek, , . Translators have often used their own theology which can drastically change the true intent of the inspired writes of Scripture. For instance, look up the Greek for "torment" in Rev 20:10. Tell me the actual word.

    I have experienced a profound faith in Christ. Only He could say, at the tomb of Lazarus, John 11:42, of the Father, "I know You always hear Me." My faith has grown to know our Father always hears me if He hears it from the Son! He is called our Advocate in 1 John 2:1. He defends us before the Father as High Priest, who offers His own life and merits on the sinner's behalf. Heaven has given us the gift of faith, Ephesians 2:8-9, to know, believe and trust ourselves to the High Priest. This is the only way to the Father that pleases Him. We dare not come to Him in our faith. Otherwise, we are entering the Most Holy Place in our own name and dishonor His Holiness.

    Chris, my understanding has given me a freedom of absolute surrender to Christ I never experienced. It certainly does not distract my belief in the gospel. I no longer look at my faith to speak to the Father. I now speak to Him through the faith of Jesus. I never have to say again, "I wish I had stronger faith." I do have it! It is my faith in His faith for me!
  • Chris - In Reply on Romans 3:4 - 2 years ago
    Hello Tony. I think of Ephesians 2:8, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God". We see here that the "Gift of God" is the whole: Grace & Faith. Both are needed from Him to receive His Salvation: the Gift of Grace & the Gift of Faith.

    However, I couldn't place which verse(s) you were referring to. Both Romans 3:4 & Galatians 2:20, do not reveal what you suggest. Unless you were thinking of Galatians 3:26; Colossians 1:4; Colossians 2:5; & there may be more. I doubt if the apostle intended to infer that this was a faith generated by one towards attaining Christ, rather that the Gift being given & now existing in the believer, from which comes his varied expressions of that faith.
  • Tony Russo on Romans 3:4 - 2 years ago
    The text about faith in Christ is not true to the Greek which is plain to read in the original language. reads, "By the faith of Christ. Nestle, 1904, Westcott and Hort 1881, Scrivener's 1894, Tischendorf, 8th Edition 1872, and many others are clear in translating this verse the same. It is inaccurate and misleading to use a translation that promotes the faith of a believer in place of the faith of Christ. This error is also found in the translation of Galatians 2:20 "And the life I now live by faith in Jesu Christ." This last phrase, by faith in Christ can only mean one thing, it means, I am living my life in Christ by my faith. By THE faith OF Jesu Christ, I now live the life of total surrender by the faith of Christ. Therefore, I do not march and grow toward victory, I now live in Christ in victory. I approach our Father through the faith of Christ. He is our Advocate and Mediator before the Father. Of Him alone did God say, "With Him, I am well pleased." We please the Father when we come to Him in the faith of Christ. Example, A father puts money in a bank for his son. The money is under the son's name. He does not have the money himself but he has access to it from anywhere in the world. In a similar way, the faith we need to save us is not within us. It is found at the right hand of God and we draw on it "in Jesus name." Acts 3:16: "And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all."

    This faith Of Christ takes us to complete dependence on Him through His faith. He offers the secret of Christian victory over the flesh, the world and the devil, His own faith, for us.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sister Sacha, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    I pray the Spirit carry you and I into a deeper spiritual understanding.

    The brick and mortar church is not what is reality, God starts us of in this physical church, and then brings us OUT of the physical understanding into spiritual understanding.

    You and I (mankind) are the TRUE CHURCH (temple of God), you and I (mankind, whether male of female) are the WOMAN, Christ is the MAN (husband).

    We as the woman are to be silent in the church and let the man, our husband be the head and do ALL THINGS through HIM. When you have questions, ASK you husband.

    1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam (Christ)(the husband) was not deceived, but the WOMAN (you and I, mankind) being DECEIVED was in the transgression.

    1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she (THE WOMAN, you and I, mankind) shall be SAVED IN CHILDBEARING (giving birth to the promise SEED, the WORD of God, life, truth, the way), if they continue in FAITH ( Galatians 2:16)( Galatians 2:20) and charity and holiness with sobriety.

    May we grow in wisdom and understanding. GBU
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Revelation 14 - 2 years ago
    Lina, may God's favour continue to shine upon you.

    Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a son, yet he learned obedience by the things which he SUFFERED.

    We bear the same cross and walk the same path to Calvary.

    1 Corinthians 15:31 ...We DIE daily..

    Romans 6:6 ...our old man was crucified with him .....

    Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nonetheless I LIVE, yet not I, but Christ LIVETH IN ME: and the life I now live IN THE FLESH I live by the FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD, who loved me and gave himself for me.

    Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery ...CHRIST IN US .....

    GBU
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Yes Glenn - very sad but very real. And you probably remember that the first sign of divisions took place in Corinth (see 1 Corinthians 1:10-13).

    Here the Corinthian Church began to factionalize, probably emphasizing certain teachings, or even the preaching abilities that were seen in those mentioned (Paul, Apollos, Cephas, Christ). Briefly, these factions looked at Paul (as the Liberty Party: Galatians 5:1); Apollos (as the Intellectual & Eloquent Party: Acts 18:24-28); Cephas (as the Judaizing Party, clinging to many Jewish ceremonial duties, unlike Paul: Galatians 2:11-16); and Christ (as the Exclusive Party, having contempt for all human teachers bar Christ - allusion to this in 2 Corinthians 10:7).

    Even though some may not agree with the above very general description, the fact remains that divisions based on personality & teaching began to develop even in the early Church. Should it be any wonder that two thousand years later, things would not get any better? As you study each denomination, you will see this common thread running through them, which has brought about separation, declaring 'we are the only ones with the Truth'. If it were not for the Holy Spirit indwelling only the truly saved, we could well think like them & believe that we are the only holders of Truth. But God has His own people in every place & in every denomination & for some there, they are still being exercised in mind & spirit to learn the Truth by reading God's Word for themselves & to leave when falsehood is preached or the Bible disregarded. We ought to pray for one another that we will not fall prey to the deceptions of the evil one & in forgetting to search the Scriptures.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 1 - 2 years ago
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    Brother Ronald. Thank you once again for your comments. I agree, whether Ignatius, Polycarp or any other succeeding them, even the Apostle Peter himself, can all be found in error in some doctrine or teaching ( Galatians 2:11-14). Though, my point was in their belief in the Deity of Christ.

    To your references on the Trinity 'fallacy': Revelation 21:22. God is Spirit - the Spirit of God is within the Godhead - the Lamb (post resurrection) is in His glorified State, as the Incarnate Word of God made flesh & now in Glory. Jesus is no longer the Word of God within God's Being, but His Word made flesh, risen & reigning at the Father's right Hand.

    1 John 2:22-24. You seem to be well studied brother. Then you would know that 1st John was written explicitly to confront the errors of Gnosticism (& other false teaching) that were running rampant in the Church. The discussion begins from verse 18, concerning the many 'anti-christs' in the Church, deceiving the believers by their lies & corruption of accepted apostolic teaching. The prevailing Docetic (an off-shoot of Gnosticsm) heresy was that "the incarnation was incredible because Deity cannot unite itself with anything material, as a body of flesh".

    Then in the reference you gave, the question from John is, "who is a liar?" The liar is that one who has come to you denying the incarnation, saying 'it's impossible for a Holy God, Who is Spirit, to unite with sinful flesh by having a Son: "but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son". This would have reference not only to the Jews that deny Jesus as their Messiah, but certainly to those who went by the name of 'Christian'; they who denied either His proper Deity, or real Humanity, as Ebion and Cerinthus, who were denying Him to be the God-man, the Mediator, & the Messiah. (cont'd).
  • Dgjot - In Reply - 2 years ago
    (continued pt 2) Still, God/Jesus forgave Peter and he continued to preach the Gospel.

    Also, define what "love" is. Is love feelings or actions? 'cause I can hate someone but still do what's right. If I see someone that is hungry, even though I have no love for that person I can still give them a sandwich or some money or something.

    Peter was chastised by Paul: (for saying that the Gentiles should be circumcised)

    Galatians 2: (Paul speaking)

    11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

    12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

    13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

    14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

    Peter messed up but God still used him. Peter was to preach the Gospel to the Jews and Paul was to preach the Gospel to the Gentiles. In other words, "the example of our walk" means nothing. If one rejects salvation because I'm not Christ-like enough, that's just an excuse. Everyone must seek God/Jesus while they may be found. People are wicked but God is all light and there is no darkness in him or Jesus. God/Jesus are the way, the truth and the life.

    And as for the Word of God, (the Bible) it's been available for years. You can buy them at DollarTree for a buck. No one is forbidding anyone to read the Bible. (Not yet anyway.) If they want to kick God/Jesus to the curb, that's on their head- not mine.

    But, thank you for responding. I will consider your explanations.
  • What Makes Us Really Beautiful - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 2 years ago
    I think Proverbs 31 is a model of a godly woman, wife and mother.

    Ruth and Esther are women of God with books in the Bible for us to study.

    Song of Solomon's, Shulamite woman: is a study into the bride of Christ or, the Church of Christ. I once thought it quite scandalous, but it's explained in Psalm 45:11 and Galatians 2:20

    I think our understanding the strength of love, is imperfect. I will tell you a dream I had. After I was born again, people said to my face: that anyone who had been as evil as me__could not possibly be saved!! Then they laughed.

    It cut me to my fragile heart and spirit.

    I decided I would make Jesus despise me. When Jesus love knocked on my door I would slam the door shut and the pain of self-hate grew huge.

    In the Dream, I saw Jesus laying stretched out on the Cross. He looked in my eyes with all the love within Him. I got angry! How dare He love The Unlovable?! I saw rocks. I picked one up and hit the nail in his hand. I felt sure I could make him sorry he had ever met me.

    But he looked in my eyes and said, I LOVE YOU. I hit him again and again, and each time He said he loved me. Something inside of me broke open. I dropped the rock and lay on his chest and wept. His arms held me close. Then I woke up.

    When I read Song of Solomon later: 2:19, 6:3, 7:10, 8:7; I knew I was loved. I forgave all those who cursed me. I learned how to give love to those who were like me. It's not carnal.

    Only God can heal a human heart; and cause it to beat for others who have not heard Jesus say, I Love You.

    The ability to love without judging, speaking curses or rationing is valuable. Love like Jesus.


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