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Ezekiel 16 KJV Bible discussions
 
  • S Spencer - in Reply on John 1
    Hi Brother Ronald.

    You are right, there is so much that is not given in scripture so most is conjectural.

    I also believe Adam lived in a different environment for lack of better terms, "Before sin entered the world."

    A big question that troubles me is the word naked. It seems it carries more of a spiritual meaning than nudity often in scripture.

    I believe often it's the opposite of being clothed with righteousness in a way mentioned here in Isaiah 61:10-11.

    The question is was Adam and Eve naked spiritually before eating of the tree of "knowledge of good and evil and perhaps they were clothed in a way mentioned in Ezekiel 16:7-15. We know good and evil existed long before Adam. "But they had no knowledge of it until they ate if the fruit. Look at Genesis 3:17. in that context, ( AND THE EYES OF THEM BOTH WERE OPENED,)....( and they knew that they were naked;...) and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

    I believe as you do Adam and Jesus Christ is all part of Gods plan that was before this world and I feel it involves Satan because this plan, that was before this world, included the lake of fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels.

    I believe in the Gap theory, Not as some do and try to fit the Dinosaurs into that gap or any other life existence that we know of, I believe they were all created in the Genesis account. I believe Lucifer may possibly have had a dominion here on earth in that Gap.

    Here's why. Ezekiel 28:13. ( Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; ) every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

    The account in Genesis Lucifer has already fallen, He's not adorned as mentioned in Ezekiel 28. " I believe this fallen mentioned here is positionally. and. "Down to Earth."

    until next time.

    GBU.
  • To Walter concerning commitment - in Reply
    Those 2 words are not in the King James Bible. You can verify by using THE SEARCH BOX.

    The word you will find in the Bible is COVENANT. It's stronger than the other two words.

    John Chapter 16:7

    7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

    8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

    9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

    10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

    11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

    Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

    Examples of COVENANT

    Ezekiel 16:60

    Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.

    Genesis 17:13

    He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.

    Leviticus 26:42

    Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.

    2 Kings 23:3

    And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all their heart and all their soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people stood to the covenant.
  • Fraser Crest - in Reply
    There are other translations that use the word "noble" instead of "liberal".

    I checked with 3 different translation engines that used "benevolent" or "generous" instead of "liberal". So, I think we know what the word liberal means, and it is not negative. The scripture says that the vile or foolish man will no longer be thought of as liberal [benevolent, or generous, during the Messianic reign, but instead will be recognized for what they are]. They didn't give at Temple because it was within their heart. They gave to bring praise upon themselves.

    The Bible also tells us that you can do many righteous things, but if you have not charity, you are nothing. Similar to the hypocrites who pray on the street corner (where everyone can see them... or on TV, or the Internet).

    I am reminded of those who call the poor "lazy" and "freeloaders" and "welfare queens". They declare themselves to be worthy of heaven, and anyone who doesn't believe just as they do are consigned to hell.

    If America is destroyed, it will be because of arrogance, selfishness, and apathy. Too many today lack empathy & compassion. Ezekiel 16:49 Now this was the sin of [insert your country here]: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
  • Ron - in Reply on Ezekiel 16
    Sherry Talley, short summation, Ezekiel 16 is a chapter that God was dealing with Israel and her abominations. It covers from their beginning, their ups and downs and God took pity on them. It covers how God picked them up and blessed and multiplied Israel making them rich and a nation. It covers how deep into pagan worship with idolatry, human sacrifice, and practicing ritual prostitution they had gone. Judgment was given against Jerusalem and ending with remembering the covenant.

    Your question about praying for drying blood. Many not from the southern states, mainly the hill country may not have heard of this. Some people are said to have the gift of healing, that is for each individual to believe or not. One prays for healing using different bible verses, a verse from Ezekiel 16 is used for healing humans or animals that has bleeding that can not be stopped, to stop the bleeding. This goes back to the early settling of the states and things brought over from the old country, and probably still being used. It is controversial and some say mystical so if you have a congregation you attend, ask your pastor.

    God bless, Ron
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Proverbs 7
    Amen Carleton and Chris.

    I believe Homosexuality and same sex marriage has overtaken the nation to where its the norm, And being legalized by the government that is when our cup is filled!!

    Not to mention abortion!!

    We have a lot of blood on our hands from the beginning,

    Unrepentant Homsexuals is going to have a lot of company in Hell.

    And prayer, how important is that?!

    We have taken it out of school!!

    "All" this dark world will be under judgment,

    "We the Church" is to be a light to lead people out of darkness.

    But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

    1 Peter 2:9.

    We're strangers and pilgrims. We should walk that way, but the world, Apostasy, and pride has crept in the Church.

    Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:18

    We parallel with Sodom in more ways than just Homosexuality. Look at the sins of Sodom here in

    Ezekiel 16:49-50.

    Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

    God has never done more for a nation than what he done for Israel, but look what he says about Israel.

    Ezekiel 16:48. As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.

    They had written laws by the hand of God that had no need to be AMENDED!. Laws written on stone condemned the word!!

    Us like them started with written laws we never held true to.

    But now we have in the Church what the world nations never had and never will,

    THE HOLYSPIRIT IN US. A Royal priesthood, A Holy Nation, Called out of darkness into his marvellous light.

    God bless you brothers.
  • Chris - in Reply on Deuteronomy 18
    Page 2.

    I agree, that 'fornication' is used quite often in the Bible, but when we examine the Scriptures referring to it, we would find that it doesn't always apply to how we understand it now, but can have several meanings & applications. There are references to Israel's spiritual fornication ( 2 Chronicles 21:11 & Ezekiel 16:26,29) & we know of the heathen's compulsion in this area associated with temple worship where temple prostitutes served to bring worshippers to a heightened experience of their god. A grievous sin indeed, but we shouldn't make this sin our focus because of its numerous references, as all sin, as seen in every book of the Bible, is as much sin as fornication is. But if fornication is made to be the cause of all sin, then we'll find that we have to alter the intent & meaning of relevant Scriptures to suit our belief & for this, thus you will have noticed the comments coming to you from us, to highlight this error.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Hi Marilyn. here is the sins of Sodom. Ezekiel 16:49-50 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.. Now concerning the darkness you spoke of. John 1:4-12 . In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

    And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

    There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

    The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

    He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

    That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

    He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

    He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

    But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on 2 Kings 20
    Hi Rick, I don't think we lost this country in one day. we've been working hard on that for a long time as a people apart from the politicians, Now hear is a nation HOLY AND CHOSEN. 1st Peter 2:9. But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an HOLY NATION, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into a marvelous light; And that is the same nation Jesus mentioned in Mathew 21:43. Therefor say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. That's the Church. understanding not clear of tares and leaven as you see in the scriptures, Proverb 16:18. Pride goes before a destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. Look at the sin of Sodom as God compares Israel to them in Ezekiel 16:49-50. Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore i took them away as I saw good. Now compare that to the early church in Acts 2:44-47.
  • Greg - in Reply on Hebrews 2
    Hi Carlton,

    I agree that Jesus is the way to everlasting life.

    I am not sure what you mean by a "condemned to death sinner" being "protected by the Law" by "putting themselves in the Mercy Seat of Christ."

    I don't want to live in a society that allows murderers to be justified in the Law because they have decided to be "brave enough" to believe that the Law of God has been fulfilled through the blood of Christ and therefore we do not need to be under it anymore.

    Faith in Jesus does not free people from the consequences of sin.

    Murderers are to be dispatched back to God.

    Forgiveness is up to the one offended, not the offender; and it is based on repentance.

    The Law is there for us to follow.

    Again, I will state that only Jesus did not NEED the Law.

    He was Perfect.

    The rest of us need the Law.

    Concerning the "Bride:"

    I don't believe that the collective Christian churches are the Bride of Christ.

    The Bride is Jerusalem that God took to wife ( Ezekiel 16:8), and SHE will be renewed and called "New Jerusalem" ( Revelation 3:12, 21:2)

    We as Christians make up the collective "body" of Christ ( Ephesians 1:23, 5:23, Colossians 1:18, 24, etc..)
  • Bob Hilt on Psalms 70
    Jerusalem Part 2

    Lamentations 1:8 - Jerusalem hath grievously sinned; therefore she is removed: all that honoured her despise her, because they have seen her nakedness: yea, she sigheth, and turneth backward.

    Ezekiel 16:2 - Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

    Malachi 2:11 - Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

    Revelation 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (end time Jerusalem)

    Jesus, my LORD, was crucified in Jerusalem, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

    Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Revelation 17
    ...... Rev 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

    Rev 16:6 - For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

    Rev 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    Mystery Babylon killed the prophets

    Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

    Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

    the two witnesses of God are mentioned here:

    Rev 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    Jesus, MY LORD was crucified in JERUSALEM, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt. NOT Rome or in Mecca or the USA

    Jerusalem killed the prophets, not Rome, and since babylon killed the prophets = Jerusalem

    Ezekiel 16:2 - Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

    Malachi 2:11 - Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.
  • A disciple on Romans 8
    Jeff; AMEN Brother! "Those of us" know very well how much we hurt ourselves and others by sinning, before we repented and were truly converted! It is written, Then thou shalt remember thy ways, and be ashamed..And I will establish my covenant with thee; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: Ezekiel 16:61-63 We are now clean through the Word which Jesus has spoken unto us; but now have to fight!
  • A disciple on Jonah 1
    Christian Powell; What is the difference between Sodom and Nineveh? and why was one shown mercy and the other destroyed? The men of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah: God's pronouncement of imminent destruction convicted them of their sins, and they responded appropriately. Although Sodom had Lot living among them, there wasn't one person who took it to heart. Read Ezekiel 16:49-50
  • A disciple on Revelation 20
    Ron; did you ever read closely Ezekiel 16; particularly the last 10 verses or so? There are a couple of very interesting things you may like. First, about Sodom; that most to this day only associate it with perversion and unrestrained lechery. But the way God describes her sins, it totally sounds like much of the modern world around us! Also, God plans to restore people to their former estate.
  • A disciple on Ezekiel 37
    We read how at the Great White Throne all shall stand before the KING for judgment, and it says that the books will be opened, and the book of Life. We read about how in the world to come the Saints will be in charge of the government of the world under Christ. Who are the Nations of the saved? Ezekiel 16:53-63 suggests that all Nations shall be restored to their former estate; minus the wicked.
  • Michael C. on Genesis 13
    Hi BSP; I found a very interesting scripture touching the people of Sodom; Ezekiel 16:49-50. Now with regard to Lot seeming so naive, and willing rather to overlook the ungodly spirit pervading the place; and because of strifes and difficulties, being willing to leave his father's brother alone with his faith, and the life of a nomad; just as the Lord described the good seed sown among the thorns.
  • Raymond pringle on Ezekiel 7
    many chapters in the bible are replete with prophecies for today Ezekiel 7 is no exception which i addressed to overwhelming majority of the british people who ARE the BLOOD decsendants of Israel ;other chapters are Zechariah 11 ; Ezekiel 21-22 and 13
    Isaiah 1 and Ezekiel 16 compares Thatcherism to Sodom and Gomorrah ;ie This was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom (God to Blair )
    They were over f
  • Williams on Deuteronomy 22:5
    Mr. godwin I wonder how you people claim to known the scripture yet you folks are still igenorant of the word of God have ever try to read the verse 30 of same deutronomy 22 yoy claim to know very well or have you ever border to read other relative scriptures like Ezekiel 16 verse 8 zachariah 8 verse 23 Ruth 3 vs 9 and see those who wore skirt in the if they men or women. Jesus said in the mouth of two or three witness shall every word be estabilished. Mr godwill I will advice you to read the scripture not to condemm people rather read to make heaven . Galatians 3 vs 10-11
  • Evangelist Chatauna Robinson on Genesis 18
    If I understand the word decadent means in a state of decline. Sodom and Gomorrah was just that. Sodom was a prosperous city that neglected her poor and needy, Ezekiel 16 48 thru 50. They had fallen into sin so badly that it was very grievous, Genesis 18 20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous I had stated that I did not know if homosexuality was the only sin in that city but when you read the scriptures this was the sin most focused on. This is why God destroyed that city. It was not time for God to destroy the whole Earth again. The reason is because the prophecy of Jesus Christ had not be fulfilled as of yet, Genesis 3 15. However, God can destroy any and part of the Earth he wants. We still have floods that destroy some communities. We still have Volcanos that destroy some properties. We still have hurricanes, tornadoes, and tsunamis that destroy land, homes, and communities. However, God will not destroy the whole earth until after the rapture and the tribulation period has been completed.
  • Shirley on Ezekiel 16
    Ezekiel 16 6 I believe this verse is used in the sense of a female during the time of her monthly cycle. How the blood is purifying the body if a cleansing and therefore, it represent the church as a woman being purge from the filth and ungodliness that Israel had done to God. Being that she need deliverance, She turns to the only one that can and is able to deliver her who is God.
  • Ronald g Morris on Ezekiel 16:6
    This scripture works Ezekiel 16 6 I had gallbaddler surgery the old fashion way I was cut about 12Inchs down my side the doctor put staples in to close my side but they didn 't do there job I suffered for several days with my side bleeding . And God reminded me of this scripture Ezekiel 16 6 And thank god it worked. Only Belive.
  • Ray on Genesis 19
    It is very obvious why Sodom was destroyed, as it was spelled out in concise language in Ezekiel.
    "the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness"
    Ezekiel 16:49
    Taking any other proposed or assumed reason for the destruction of Sodom would contradict the Bible itself.


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