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Exodus 4 KJV Bible discussions
  • T Levis - in Reply on Amos 3
    Here are scriptures you can study, 1st asking for wisdom: James 1:5, Exodus 25, Exodus 26, Exodus 27, Exodus 29, Exodus 30, Exodus 35, Exodus 36, Exodus 38, Exodus 37:25,26, Exodus 38:2, - Exodus 40, Leviticus 1, Leviticus 3, Leviticus 4, - Leviticus 12, - Leviticus 16:33, - Leviticus 26, Numbers 1:53, Numbers 3, - Numbers 4:23, ( Luke 3:23 ) Luke 4:30, Numbers 4, Leviticus 16:18, = Hebrews 8, Hebrews 9, Hebrews 10,

    1Kings 6, 1Kings 7, 2Kings 11, 2Chronicles 3, 2Chronicles 4, Ezra 3, Isaiah 6, Ezekiel 41, Zechariah 6:12,13, Revelation 11, Mark 15, Matthew 27:51, Matthew 27, Psalms 118:27,

    Mark 11, Luke 1,

    Revelation 21:22,

    Hopefully these are all helpful in your study & search for answers
  • T Levis - in Reply on Exodus 30
    Exodus 30:7-10, these are specified rules Moses had been given for the Priests to follow. Best to keep the whole of these scriptures together. Deuteronomy 4:2, the offering & relevant starts in previous chapters, Exodus 25, Exodus 26, Exodus 27, Exodus 28, Exodus 29, continuing to Exodus 30, Exodus 31, Exodus 40, also in Deuteronomy, Leviticus,

    Exodus 25:9,

    1Corinthians 5:1,

    Hebrews 8, Hebrews 9, James 1:5,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Leviticus 16:2, Numbers 3, Numbers 4, Exodus 37:1, Exodus 40:20, Numbers 7:89, 1Samuel 5:11, 1Samuel 6, 2Samuel 6:3, 1Chronicles 13:10, 1Chronicles 15:2, 2Chronicles 8:11,

    Deuteronomy 10:8, Jeremiah 3:15,16,

    Hebrews 9:8,

    Revelation 11:19,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. L - in Reply
    It's not judged by years: Luke 23:34-43, Matthew 13, 1Peter 2:2, Hebrews 5:12,13,14,

    Exodus 4:12, Deuteronomy 4, Deuteronomy 5:31, Deuteronomy 6:7, Matthew 5:19, 1Timothy 4:11,

    2Timothy 2:15, Jeremiah 1:7,

    Why do you ask? I hope these help answer the root question
  • PROPHECY - in Reply
    Amen Brother Luke:

    Acts 1:9 ....and he was taken up; and a CLOUD received him (Christ the GLORIFIED BODY out of their sight;

    INTO MAN: his BODY).

    Christ was taken into (NEW) heaven: MAN the BODY of CHRIST.

    The CLOUD: the Glory and Presence of God ABIDING in, and on, God's temple.

    Exodus 40:38 For the CLOUD of the Lord was upon the tabernacle (temple of God) by day, and FIRE (Hebrew 12:29) by night .....

    2 Corinthians 6:16 ....for ye are the temple of the LIVING GOD ......

    Colossians 1:27 ....this MYSTERY .....Christ in you .... HIS BODY .....HIS TEMPLE .....HIS LIFE ....HIS TRUTH...

    Romans 8:29 .... to be CONFORMED (by the NEW BIRTH) to the IMAGE OF CHRIST ....

    2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the eyes of them WHICH BELIEVE NOT, lest the light of the GLORIOUS GOSPEL, should shine unto them.

    Psalms 82:6 I (the word) have SAID; ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, IS IT NOT WRITTEN in your law, Ye are gods?

    John 10:35 If he called them gods, TO WHOM the WORD of God CAME, the scripture CANNOT be broken.

    Luke 9:23 .... If any man will come after me (the second coming of Christ: IN YOU) let him will DENY HIMSELF and take up his cross (first death) and follow ME (I AM the resurrection).

    Ephesians 4:4 ...ONE Spirit (the Father) ....ONE Body (Man) ......

    Christ the firstborn among many BRETHREN (the image of Christ).

    God Bless you (the body Christ).
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Mark 8
    Mark 8:22-26, this seems to be the same account witnessed by John: John 9, whole chapter, note: Exodus 4:11, & John 9:1,3,32,33,39,

    Matthew 9:27-31, notice: Mark 10:47-52, this guys "faith, immediately" Luke 18:35-43, notice, the situation you referred to: John 9:35-39,

    Psalms 146:8, Isaiah 29:18, Isaiah 35:5,6, Isaiah 42:1-21, here in: Matthew 11:5, Luke 7:22, Jesus pointed out the fulfilled prophecy in those ancient scriptures. Matthew 15:31,

    Mark 6:1-6,

    The mind is a powerful thing, Mark 9:23, Mark 11:23,24, Mark 16:17,

    Luke 8:49-50, even death Jesus said "fear not: believe only" ._.

    Was it the man's doubt?

    Was it an example to not give up, keep trying, keep seeking the miraculous, healings? To encourage us to press on, keep believing, keep trying. (?) or all the above._.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Thanks Alex. I got that reference ( Exodus 3:15). You may have missed my reply further up the thread when you mentioned that reference rather than the one I took as an example ( Exodus 4:5). So in that comment I gave to you, I mentioned that you changed what God said (I AM the God of Abraham, etc.) to My Name is Abraham, etc. I realize you gave your explanation as to why you believe God's Name is Abraham, etc., but you haven't explained why you've changed the wording & meaning. Just to support a belief doesn't warrant changing a verse to suit that belief. A belief must arise from the Word given & understood in its normal sense.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Thanks Alex. I simply used Exodus 4:5, in the absence of a Scripture from you. But I'll now refer to Exodus 3:15 which you gave, and that is, "And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations?"

    If we focus on this verse alone, I can somewhat see where you get the idea that God's Name is Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. Unfortunately, this verse doesn't stand alone; in most cases with Scripture we have to read around the verse addressed to learn the context & meaning. Remember when Moses spoke to God & said that when he goes to the children of Israel, they will ask him, "What is his name?" (v13). And God replies at verse 14, "I AM THAT I AM - I AM (hath sent me unto you)." This is God's Name.

    Now to get to your type of 'trinity' (i.e. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, & then relating that to Father, Son & Grandson) shows an incorrect understanding of Exodus 3:13-15. I don't believe in the normal reading of these verses, that anyone would think of such an application & further developing into your beliefs. When God said, "this is my name forever", God was speaking about the Name he gave to Moses to give to Israel - which is I AM THAT I AM. But if one is compelled to force your interpretation to it, then God's Name is, "The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob" - His Name is the LORD God, & not 'my Name IS Abraham, Isaac & Jacob'. So even here, you've taken out 'OF' & inserted 'IS'. So I see an important word change that you've made. And if you want to retain 'OF', then it equally makes no sense as God's Name.

    Alex, please re-read that passage as given & not to support some variant theology that leads further away from Truth.
  • Alex N - in Reply
    Chris sorry it took so long to get back to you...But Chris i neva changed 1 word of the bible....I wd neva change a word of the bible....Its just you focusing on Exodus 4 : 5....I was refering to Exodus 3 : 15 kjv Where God tells Moses that he was to go to the Children of ISRAEL and tells them that the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob hath sent me unto you...This is MY NAME forever and MY MEMORIAL to all Generations....Not 1 letter has been changed .

    But Chris you should have a enough spritual understanding to see that this Abrahamic trinity is just a picture of God Almighty offering up his only son Jesus...The RAM caught in the thicket by his horns is just Prophetic of Christ and his crown of thorns

    .....When Abraham offered up his only son Issac....Issac asked his Father we have the wood and the fire but where is the lamb....Abraham replied the Lord will provide himself a lamb....Do you not see that this is a beautiful picture of the Cross...SMH

    Thus we can see how Gods name wd be Abraham Issac and Jacob....That initiated the nation of Israel.....But what GOD did at calvary is gonna initiate an ISRAEL OF GOD....That is gonna be as the Stars of Heaven in mutitude....That was the great Promise.

    ......Abraham means Father of a multitude...But its really God Almighty that is the FATHER of a multitude....Our heavenly Father is gonna be multiplied simply b/c of what Jesus did at calvary....God swore by himself when he made that Promise of multiplication....Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came ( that good seed ) it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken....The gift of God is the H.G. the Child of Promise the multiplication of God....We cd not refer to the H.G as the PROMISE if he were the NOT THE multiplication of very God IN HUMANITY....That Woman in Rev 12 is a picture of humanity birthing the Children of Promise the H.G the Gift of God to everybody....I will pour out of my spirit on ALL flesh....If i be lifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me...GB
  • Chris - in Reply
    Well Alex, I've read all that before, but it still doesn't answer the question using Exodus 4:5, 'when did the God OF Abraham, Isaac & Jacob become, My Name IS Abraham, Isaac & Jacob'? The point I'm making, & I hope you can see it, is that once we change a Scripture, whether its wording or meaning, then everything we might build on that Scripture will be faulty. So, why did you make that change? What base (or, rule of interpretation) do you use to alter the wording & meaning of Scripture? If we can find that God's Name IS Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, then we might have room to consider your other thoughts. Let us not attempt to re-write God's Word to suit our theology.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Thanks Alex for your response. If I could nail down a few things.

    a. "a baby Christ which is the H.G"; "That cannot speak for a while simply b/c he is an infant". So are you saying that we can't receive the Holy Ghost & being born again because He (the Spirit) is still an infant? So when are we born again? If we can't be born again now, how do you account for spiritual gifts, power to live for God, a longing to be with Him? A carnal man without the Spirit cannot enjoy these things nor desire them - they are foolishness to him.

    b. can you give me a reference where God told Moses that His Name was Abraham, Isaac & Jacob? I only see references in my Bible such as Exodus 4:5, "That they may believe that the LORD God OF their fathers, the God OF Abraham, the God OF Isaac, and the God OF Jacob, hath appeared unto thee?" They never speak of God's Name being what you state, but that God is the God OF

    c. I know that "the night cometh, when no man can work", which means we need to do God's Work while it is still 'day'. But my point was, why should the Gospel be preached NOW, when, as you believe, that the day will come when all men will bow down to the Lord, those alive & those who have died? If God has determined that all will be saved one day, why is there a need to share the Gospel with the unsaved - they're going to be saved anyway regardless whether they know anything about Jesus' Sacrifice or not, or whether they have given any regard to their sinful state or not?
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Matthew 23
    Zechariah 1:1,

    I believe you may be mistaken, not the Word of GOD

    In my study I looked up the "Court"

    The Court : Exodus 27, in the tabernacle, Exodus 40:20-33, the House: 1Kings 6:16-36, 1Kings 8:64, 2 Chronicles 4:6-22, Solomon made,

    2Chronicles 24:18-27, Court, before captivity into Babylon, note Isaiah was prophesing of it, in 2 Chronicles,

    Zechariah, Zacharias, etc. 2Chronicles 29:1, 2Kings 14:29, 2Kings 18:2 2Kings 15:8,11, even Luke 1:5,12,13,18,21,40,59,67,

    There seems to be several men with same name, but Jesus specified "the son of Barachias" Zechariah 1:1, note: Luke 11:50-51, Matthew 23:31-39, 'between the temple & the alter '

    Zechariah son of Berechaih was alive prophesing during the 2nd year of Darius, Zechariah 1:1, seemingly During: Daniel 6:1, Daniel 9:1, Daniel 11:1, the time of rebuilding, Ezra 4:24, Ezra 5:7, Ezra 6:13, Haggai 1:15, Haggai 2:10, Nehemiah 12:22,

    Please note Zechariah 7:1, the house of The LORD was rebuilt & Zechariah approached their sin, Zechariah 7, he even speaks of the 70 years of captivity: Zechariah 7:5,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Dav47 - in Reply
    In exodus 4:21= I will harden=I will embolden; Hebrew idiom active verbs of doing are used of suffering or permitting a thing to be done.

    Ro. 9:18 (hardeneth=suffereth to be). eg.

    here; Hebr. hazak to brace or tighten up (opposition to relax); This particular use is used 13 times.

    GOD didn't do anything that Pharaoh and the leaders were already willing and going to do. GOD allowed him to burden the people just as HE allowed Satan to test Job. Pharaoh considered himself a god and caused the people much hardship with his insatiable appetite for building. Many Israelite's would have died if HE didn't do this. GOD will not turn a person to do evil; it is your choice and free will to do so.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Philemon 1
    Moses meeting with GOD, Exodus 3:2-14, Exodus 24, Exodus 33, Exodus 40,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Psalms 23,

    Rod: Exodus 4:17,

    Job 9:34, Job 21:9, Psalms 2:9, Psalms 89:32, Psalms 125:3, Proverbs 10:13, Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 23:13,14, Proverbs 26:3,

    Proverbs 29:15, Isaiah 9:4, Isaiah 10:5, Isaiah 10:15, Isaiah 10:26, Isaiah 11:1,4, Jeremiah 10:16, Revelation 12:25,

    Staff: Genesis 32:10, Genesis 38:18, Exodus 12:17, Exodus 21:19, Leviticus 26:26, Numbers 13:23, Judges 6:21, 2Samuel 3:29, 2Samuel 23:7,21, 2Kings 4:29,31, 2Kings 18:21, Isaiah 3:1, Isaiah 14:5, Isaiah 28:27,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • S Spencer - in Reply on 2 Chronicles 7
    Hi Dan.

    I'm not sure the emphasis is on Gods name.

    The emphasis is on Gods possession in his people.

    Exodus 4:22-23. And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

    And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me:...



    Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.

    They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: FOR I AM A FATHER TO ISRAEL, and Ephraim is my firstborn. Jeremiah 31:8-9.

    Israel was to be set apart.

    Exodus 19:5.

    2 Chronicles 7:10-16. And on the three and twentieth day of the seventh month he sent the people away into their tents, glad and merry in heart for the goodness that the LORD had shewed unto David, and to Solomon, and to Israel his people.

    Thus Solomon finished the house of the LORD, and the king's house: and all that came into Solomon's heart to make in the house of the LORD, and in his own house, he prosperously effected.

    And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.

    If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;

    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.

    For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

    God bless.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Numbers 9
    Romans 9, Romans 12,

    Hebrews 7:17-28, Hebrews 9, Hebrews 10, references Exodus 39, Exodus 40, Leviticus,

    Note Hebrews 10:12 "But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down at the right hand of God." also John 19, Isaiah 53, Luke 23,
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Please read: Numbers 14:18, Numbers 14:19, Deuteronomy 7:9, 2Peter 3:9,

    Numbers 20:7-12, is a portion of the whole story & reason.

    Let's look at the bigger picture:

    Numbers 20:12, please note it says "Because you believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore._._" , Please read Exodus, Moses' doubts: Exodus 3:11,13, Exodus 4:1,3,10,14, Exodus 4:24-26, Exodus 5:22, Exodus 6:12, Exodus 6:30, Exodus 14:11-15, Exodus 16:2-28, Exodus 17:2-7, Exodus 32:11-19,30,31,32,33, Exodus 33:1-3, Numbers 11:1-15, mercy ( Numbers 11:16-20,) Numbers 11:21-23, * Numbers 13, Numbers 13:30,31,32, * Numbers 14, very significant I believe, when they were supposed to take the promised land please read Numbers chapters 13 & 14, & notice: Numbers 13:30, Numbers 14:24, Numbers 14:22-23,

    Psalms 95:6-11, note Psalms 95:10-11,

    Hebrews 3:5-19, Luke 13:24, Mark 10:15,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 3
    Thanks GiGi. I could only learn this from referring to the Hebrew text (& translation), where in Genesis 2:4 the Hebrew clearly shows "in the day that the LORD (YHWH) God (Elohim) made the earth and the heavens". And not being a Hebrew reader, I can only read it as given, that it is 'God Who is YHWH', Who has done all these things & now communing with man & woman.

    Given that the Genesis writer is generally accepted as being Moses (written between 1450 & 1410 BC), where he would have been given special grace to relate these events that he personally had not experienced, it could be that God was already showing him that 'special' connection to His people Israel, yet future, was already set in Adam & Eve.

    Yet, would all those living pre-Moses (i.e. pre- Exodus 3:13,14), even know that 'special' Name? Exodus 6:3, says that the 'Name YHWH was not known to the patriarchs'. And yet we know that they were aware of it, like Abraham ( Genesis 15:7; Genesis 22:14), Jacob ( Genesis 27:20) & others knew that Name. But did they only know OF that Name but did not know Him fully, the full depth of understanding of the Name, YHWH? This debate probably still goes on. But when the children of Israel were in slavery in Egypt for over 400 years, that Name which should have been remembered & faithfully passed on, was forgotten, hence their need for an urgent reminder by Moses.

    And "why should the Israelites listen to Moses & trust God?" There were four tokens of identification of this 'forgotten' God: the one of His Name ( Exodus 3:14, I AM: I've read that it is the inner meaning of YHWH - I Am the One Who Is); the one of the rod/serpent ( Exodus 4:1-5); the one of the leprous hand ( Exodus 4:6-8); & the one of the river of blood ( Exodus 4:9). I guess that any one or all of these signs should have confirmed Moses' call without any dispute & revealed to the Israelites unequivocally Who the One was Who had heard their cries & come to save them.
  • Richard H Priday - in Reply on Exodus 40
    I was thinking of the initial part of the Exodus and later on after the Tabernacle was completed. This would correspond also to the later building of the much more ornate and sizeable temple under Solomon; which indeed is probably the last time that there was such a presence there outwardly visible. It is said at the time of AD 70 and the fulfullment of the judgment of the Lord on Israel that was to happen before that generation passed that there were supernatural events. I believe at that time there was some sort of continual burning candle that went out if I am correct about that.

    Today; I was comparing the bowl judgment when no man can stand in the inner court of the HEAVENLY temple until the judgments were complete. I don't know any other passages that compare with Exodus 40 where even the most godly person; or the Levite priest sanctioned to enter the Holy of Holies annually was not allowed in there. In Revelation; it shows a sort of finality; just as it did to the Egyptians at the finale of their judgments and just prior in the Dead Sea. It is noteworthy that in the seal and trumpet judgments; prayers came up as incense before the Lord. It would seem that at the consummation of events the Lord acts in this way. It is noteworthy that the rebellion of Israel was the only thing that took that glory away; as God had and still in fact retains certain covenant promises. Mercifully; now with Christ His Spirit dwells within our body; i.e. His Body or Tabernacle and we are "sealed until the day of redemption." (Ephesians). He has kept His face hidden for our own good; for in all His glory no man can stand.

    I'm new at this commentary stuff; it is helping me study the Word better. I'm certain others can give more detailed responses. I didn't have a theme here that I put any real time or study into; it was just a thought.

    Agape. Rich P
  • Richard H Priday on Exodus 40
    At this stage in Exodus 40; the Tabernacle was finally prepared; with the ark of the Testimony; and the candle along with the items within the ark and exterior decorations commanded. At this point; the glory filled the Tabernacle (verse 34). Moses and Aaron joined the tent of the congregation and immediately when God's presence came even Moses couldn't enter because of the Presence. It was once again a "fire by night"; and the cloud was there during the day (verse 40); probably the same appearance as the smoke in earlier passages.

    The earlier chapters show the great struggles that Moses endured; along with the patience of God and evidence of the Godhead. It would appear that the "Angel" God promised to send that is seen not only in Exodus but other parts of the Pantetauch (can't spell that right) was none other than Christ Himself. Moses had acted as a sort of intercessor; who stopped God from breaking out and destroying all the rebels after the abominable golden calf episode. Christ; of course would be the final fulfillment of the intercessor for all of the sin of God's elect; and Himself be the sacrifice. This seeming dichotomy of wrath and sacrificial love; grace and mercy between the Father and Son gives us some insight into the "hidden things of God" ( Deut. 29:29). Overall; we see how God has the characteristics of perfect love and perfect wrath and yet is not in conflict because of this. We need to remember that it was God who loved the world ( John 3:16) who; because He can't look at sin and we can't endure His full presence and live; that He had to send His son as a propitiation for our sins. This would satisfy the Father to crush His son ( Isaiah 53 and other passages).

    Although the sacrifices at the Temple are no longer needed; it appears that a memorial or ceremonial Temple will be on earth in the future ( Ezekiel 48). The earthly construction was a representation of the heavenly pattern; with Cherubim and the design overall.
  • JTL - in Reply on Exodus 40
    Jerry hansen Actually 7 times Exodus 40:19,21,23,25,27,29,and 32.
  • Chris - in Reply on Exodus 4
    Hello Neville. Many months ago I had shared my understanding of this Scripture ( Exodus 4:24-26) to someone else, so I replicate that answer for you here:

    "Yes, this is a difficult verse to place, given the context of the other verses around it. It is understood that God is now dealing with Moses on another issue. The first matter was about Moses giving excuses as to why he could not approach Pharaoh & speak God's Word to him. Moses eventually agreed to do it, given that Aaron would be his mouthpiece.

    Then in verse 24, we find that God had some reason for taking Moses' life. It wasn't about the former matter but about Moses' neglect in circumcising his son. It may be because of his marriage to the Midianitish woman, Zipporah, & some issue of circumcision had come up that caused him to overlook or refuse to do this act. There could have been other (negative) dealings by God on this family as well, which then compelled Zipporah to take matter into her own hands (so to speak) & do the circumcising herself. Whatever it was, God seemed appeased by Zipporah's actions, that which Moses had failed to perform."
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Exodus 19
    Exodus 19:11-12, please note: Exodus 19:16-25, Exodus 20:18-21, (Expdus 23:22-24, 31-33) , Exodus 24:1-3,7, Exodus 24:9-11, Exodus 24:12-18, Exodus 32:1-7, Exodus 32:8-11,13,14,15,19,21,22, Exodus 32:35, Exodus 33:5, Exodus 33:11-23, Exodus 34:6-7, Exodus 34:30, Exodus 40:34-35, Leviticus 10:1-2,3,

    Exodus 2:13-14, Exodus 4:23-26, Exodus 5:20-21, Exodus 6:9, Exodus 14:10-12, Exodus 15:24, Exodus 16:2,3, Exodus 16:19-20, Exodus 16:25-28, Exodus 17:2-4,

    Hebrews 13:17,

    Hopefully these are helpful to understand more fully the reason.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Sister Sacha, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    God CHOOSE you before the foundations of the world: You CANNOT lose your salvation since you were CHOSEN, because you salvation is not up to you; but GOD.

    Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath CHOSEN US in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love.

    Ephesians 1:11 In whom (in Christ) we have obtained an INHERITANCE (to become a Son of God), being predestinated according to the purpose of him who woreketh ALL THINGS after the counsel of HIS WILL.

    Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he that began a good work in you WILL PERFORM IT until the day of Jesus Christ.

    John 15:16 You have not chosen me, but I HAVE CHOSEN YOU, and ordained you (to be priest) ........

    1 Peter 2:9 For you are a CHOSEN generation, a royal PRIESTHOOD .....

    Exodus 40:15 ....for their ANOINTING shall surely be an everlasting PRIESTHOOD, throughout their generation.

    May the SPIRIT reveal his TRUTHS to us, God bless you.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    "I AM, THAT I AM," If i had my Exhaustive Concordance I could try & tell you the Hebrew, Greek, etc. It may be significant that HE, GOD ALMIGHTY says Exodus 3:15,

    Exodus 4:5, Genesis 26:24, John 8:39, Matthew 3:9, Luke 3:8, Mark 12:26, Matthew 22:32, Luke 20:37, Acts 7:32,

    Galatians 3:6,
  • Michael - in Reply on Romans 5
    Hello Dan,

    Thank you for taking the time to answer my 2 questions.

    1) You mention that the commandment at Leviticus 12:3 was a "suggestion". When the Law was give to Israel, they made a covenant between themselves and God. Please read Exodus 34:3-8. Notice specifically

    Exodus 24:3 "And Moses came and told the people ALL THE WORDS of the LORD, and ALL THE JUDGMENTS: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, ALL THE WORDS which the LORD hath said will we do."

    That does not sound like a "suggestion" but a command - an order. Jewish people have thus very meticulously made certain to circumcise their children. Moses was almost killed by the LORD because he had not circumcised his son. Please read Exodus 4:24-26. That seems to me that the LORD takes circumcision very, very seriously. In fact, in the first century, even believing Jews believed that a believer in the Messiah must be circumcised to be saved.

    Acts 15:1 "And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, EXCEPT YE BE CIRCUMCISED after the manner of Moses, YE CANNOT BE SAVED."

    2) You mention that the first century Church followed the 10 commandments.

    I do agree that they did follow 9 of those commandments. They are re-iterated in the New Testament or Covenant set up by Jesus through his blood mentioned at Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Luke 22:20. However, nowhere do the Apostles every tell the Church, in clear words, "remember to keep the sabbath". Could you provide me 1 verse where an apostle clearly says to keep the sabbath - that actual word "sabbath" being used? In fact, Paul says the opposite at Colossians 2:16 and Galatians 4:10.

    3) Now to answer your question. The apostles did not ever say that they obeyed the "10" commandments. They said that they obeyed the commandments. Those would be the commandments of the New Testament given by Jesus Christ through his Apostles via the letters of Romans to Revelation.

    I welcome your thoughts again.

    Good day to you, Dan.
  • Chris - in Reply on James 4:1
    Hi Merlinda. Many have wondered why Pharaoh & the Egyptians were treated so harshly by God, when prior to sending out the various plagues we often read that God had hardened Pharaoh's heart.

    We first see that Pharaoh was an evil man, a brutal dictator who also enslaved the Israelites with terrible abuse & oppression. As well, he believed that he was a god or at least, an intermediary to the pantheon of gods (even as the people considered the pharaohs) & there was none their equal. So Pharaoh could say, "Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go." ( Exodus 5:2). So Pharaoh's heart was already opposed & hardened towards the God Whom Moses & Aaron represented as we also see in some references: Exodus 7:22; 8:15,19,32; 9:7,34,35.

    So when we read that it was God Who hardened the Pharaoh's heart ( Exodus 4:21; 7:3; etc.), we have to conclude that indeed God did affect Pharaoh's heart against Him, but his heart was already hard & stubborn & God simply ensured that his heart would remain so during the time of affliction & punishment. God could well have done this to remind Pharaoh who this God of Moses was, the mightier works that He can do than what Pharaoh's magicians could do & how grossly wicked Pharaoh's acts were against the Israelites that warranted such stern punishment. Yet, God was still merciful in sparing the Egyptians lives, in spite of their suffering & loss of human life.

    What should have been a repentance & softening of Pharaoh's heart, remained hard & this hardness was then made harder by God proving His Power over the Egyptians & His Love for His people, Israel, to free them from tyranny. Romans 9:17: "For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth." cf Exodus 9:16.
  • Chris - in Reply on Exodus 21
    Hi Richard, I wonder whether you're referring to Exodus 4:10,11. These verses do seem to imply that God specifically creates some (in the womb) to have defective organs or other impediments. He is after all the Creator of all people & things & so has the right to do as He pleases. However, the question: why would God then create a new life with such physical or mental problems? Is it simply sufficient to say that 'He has every right to do so?"

    Apart from the above, I see two other aspects to this dilemma: we are all born in corrupt sinful flesh. Even though an embryo cannot be classed as one having committed any sin, its very state, being formed out of the seed of sinful man & woman, already consigns it to an existence (whether in the womb or outside), into a sinful state. And secondly, the Ways & Plans of God are unknown to us. We don't know how God uses such people so afflicted in various ways; whether to glorify Him, to lead them to Himself, or to touch other lives through their infirmity. We usually see the suffering of the one afflicted & ask 'why has God allowed this to happen'?, yet we remain ignorant to the Purposes of God in doing so & for the one afflicted to still return praises to Him in spite of it all.

    Here in Exodus chapter 4, we see Moses with a speech impediment; in John 9:1-3 (a man born blind); Mark 7:31-34 (deaf man & with a speech impediment); Acts 3:1-3 (lame man) are a few examples. Then we have babies born with disabilities from no fault of the parents, or maybe because of something ingested by the mother (e.g. Thalidomide when taken during pregnancy for anxiety & morning sickness). All these are the results from what we are as humans or what God has allowed for His Own reasons. What is more important is how we accept our lot in life, how we can be useful to others in some way, & whether through it we are reminded of our own weaknesses & sins & therefore run to the Saviour for spiritual healing & hope, & strength to live through each day.
  • Richard R wilson on Exodus 21
    exodus 4 11 so does God form in the womb the sick

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