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  • Chris - In Reply - 3 weeks ago
    Hello Jpiegaro. This is a subject that has been debated often & it really boils down to how one approaches & understands God's Word on this matter, as also with other subjects.

    My understanding on this, indeed on all matters pertaining to Israel, is that the Ten Commandments which includes the necessity of keeping the Sabbath Day holy was wholly incumbent upon Israel & Israel alone. No other people received the Decalogue, as also with circumcision, the festivals, sacrifices, priestly functions, other laws, etc. Unfortunately, when the Jew turned to Christ, as also with the Gentile, the knowledge they had or we received from the Old Testament are presumed to be automatically passed onto & applied to those now In Christ. We readily acknowledge the laws concerning our relationship to God & to one another, as given in the OT, but then imply that Sabbath-keeping must also apply to us. We do so in ignorance.

    Shabbat (Hebrew, from the root, Shin-Bet-Tav), being the seventh day, means 'to cease, to end, to rest', & Israel was to sanctify (set apart) this day for cessation from all activity, even as the LORD Himself hallowed it ( Exodus 20:10,11). There could be no transposition of this Sabbath Day to any other day; hence, it was never 're-converted' to become a Sunday, thus the term 'Christian Sabbath' really is a misnomer. One can use the 7th day, or any day, as a day of rest as desired, but I don't ever see it as a requirement for those who are In Christ Jesus, as those now under a new Law given us (even, imputed in us) by the Holy Spirit ( Romans 8:2) & also being led of the Spirit ( Galatians 5:18). When we look at the Gospels & the Acts of the Apostles, we find many references to the Sabbath Day, since either the Law was still in force (pre-Cross) or the apostles took advantage of the day for ministry to the Jews in synagogues (in Acts). But in NT Church practise, they met on the 1st Day of the Week, with no reference to the old Law of Sabbath(s).
  • Momsage - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Exodus 20: 13 King James Bible

    Thou shalt not kill.

    Kill: ratsach: to murder, slay
  • Richard H Priday - 1 month ago
    Idolatry: Exodus 20:4-5 state:

    4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

    5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

    Recently; there was an issue in regard to an artist that I have befriended in my local church. It seems another brother agrees with me; that images representing Christ or anything in the Godhead are included with any created item when it comes to worship. We cannot adequately represent a depiction of an omnipotent; omnipresent and omniscient God. Even if it doesn't cause us to worship it; we shouldn't tempt others who may be from backgrounds or denominations where such imagery is worshipped.

    Much of this type of logic is attempted to be justified in Catholicism; where we see images of Mary who according to their own theologians is supposed to be honored rather than worshipped. "How We Honor Jesus Through Mary" by Dave Armstrong written July 1 2015 states: " St. Louis Marie de Montfort, one of the giants in the history of Marian devotion, wrote: "We never give more honor to Jesus than when we honor his Mother, and we honor her simply and solely to honor him all the more perfectly. We go to her only as a way leading to the goal we seek-Jesus, her Son."" Such is the logic of the author Carl Keating a leading Catholic apologist. In practice though we see people worshipping the images of the Virgin Mary and those indoctrinated in that believe in her perpetual virginity and that she was sinless; which is not recorded in scripture. In fact we see scriptures of Christ's brothers and sisters mentioned (see Mtthew 13:56; and John 7). Perhaps a depiction of a saint isn't an issue for us but we also shouldn't cause another to sin because of it
  • Momsage - In Reply - 1 month ago
    "I don't believe that the Pope is speaking for God allowing for same sex marriages and the Pope isn't great, matter of fact I believe the the Pope is Satan himself." I don't believe he speaks for God either and, indeed, he personifies Satan himself. I was being factious. I left Catholicism too when I left my Catholic home at 18. I couldn't stand it and was so relieved when it was in my past.

    I don't know exactly what you mean when you say "and have been searching for a long time for the "true" religion." "True religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." James 1:7. Because you are a true believer, God is in your heart, soul and mind. You belong to God. Those who are true believers are The Church of God, sometimes called the Kingdom of God. You are a part of the Body of Christ. This is your religion. James is saying if you love God you will show His love unconditionally, but especially to the needy and keep yourself holy. If you wonder how you can "keep unspotted in the world" do this - read Exodus 20: 1-17. These are the ten commandments of God-not laws-commandments written by God Himself. "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5: 3 and Jesus said: "For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." Matthew 11:30. Some Christians teach a Sinning/Christian doctrine but this is false. We may have weakness and faults as a true believer. These are not sins. When we are born again we are not "perfect", of course, but God helps us overcome these weaknesses and faults by maturing in Him but we are to "go and sin no more." John 8: 3-11/ 11- ....... And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." I know I have been preaching :) and if I have presumed things about you that are wrong please forgive me, I just want to help if I can. God Bless :) I hope you will respond.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Is worshipping God on any given day breaking the Sabbath?

    Part 3.

    WHAT MADE SABBATH "HOLY "

    The essence of Sabbath-keeping was physical rest. In Exodus 20:8-11 and Deuteronomy 5:12-15, the Sabbath command specifies rest from labor as the way to keep the day "holy." There is no mention of going to a worship service each Sabbath. Other passages in the Old Testament also define the Sabbath by rest, not by attendance at worship services. See Exodus 31:12-17, Numbers 15:32, Nehemiah 13:15-22 and Jeremiah 17:19-27. The latter two passages, though they refer to Jerusalem, do not mention anything about failure to attend worship services or "sacred assemblies," but only work on the Sabbath as a desecration of this day.

    An interesting study is to look up the word "Sabbath" in a concordance, find all the Old Testament references and then read those passages to see how this day was kept "holy." The conclusion will be that rest from labor is what made the Sabbath sacred time, not attendance at a worship service. Most Israelites lived too far from the tabernacle to attend a worship service every Sabbath - and there is no evidence in the Old Testament that they did. And the law did not allow them to assemble anywhere else for worship. Nor do we find commands even for people near the Tabernacle that they had to gather for worship. The Sabbath was kept at home, by resting.

    There is no mention in Old Testament passages that attending a worship service on the Sabbath is a way of keeping this day holy. The way the Sabbath was sanctified, made holy or set apart as sacred was through physical rest from labor. All the Old Testament references to Sabbath observance in Israel speak to this point. There is no Old Testament theology of weekly Sabbath holiness that centers around attendance at "holy convocations."

    See Part 4.
  • S Spencer - 2 months ago
    Is worshipping God on any given day breaking the Sabbath?

    If performing the Sabbath rest is to be done on a Saturday, How is worshipping God on a Sunday be breaking the Sabbath?

    God gave the command for the Sabbath in Exodus 20:8-11 to those "WITHIN THE GATES OF ISRAEL"

    Not to the rest of the world.

    In Numbers 15:32-36. there was a man stoned to death for picking up sticks!

    I have never read anything like that happening or any punishment given to the rest of the world whether weekly Sabbath, yearly Sabbath or a Sabbath for the land.

    THE COMMAND TO REST ON THE SABBATH WAS GIVEN TO ISRAEL AND THE WORSHIP BY ISRAEL HAD TO BE DONE IN A CERTAIN PLACE.

    Here's an Interesting article by Paul Kroll.

    Part 1.

    Old Testament Laws:

    Is Leviticus 23:3 a Command to Have Worship Services on the Weekly Sabbath?

    We read the following command from Jesus in Luke 5:14, when he healed someone: "Show yourself to the priest and offer the sacrifices that Moses commanded for your cleansing, as a testimony to them." If one assumed that Jesus' teaching applied to all people at all times, it could be claimed that this passage is "proof" telling Christians they must offer the proper Mosaic sacrifice and appear before a Jewish priest.

    However, we know that Luke 5:14 is not a command for us to offer sacrifices. How do we know this? It is because the total witness of the New Testament makes it clear that such sacrifices applied only to Israelites and Jews under the Mosaic old covenant. This illustrates the folly of isolating a verse from its context. We need to examine both the verse in question and the larger context of the Bible. We must not start with advance assumptions.

    See Part 2.
  • Momsage - 2 months ago
    Christianlady7

    SABBATH

    Genesis: 2:2-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.

    "seventh" shebiith: an ordinary number

    "rested" sabath: cease, desist, rest

    "sanctified, holy qadashconsecrate

    "sabbath" sabath intermission

    These verses speak of the 4th commandment that God gave (not asked) us to obey to honor Him by resting on that day. God saw this need for us, in order to refresh our bodies, minds and souls. He gave us the other nine, also, for our good. The world, unfortunately, has decided to disregard this commandment so there is no sanctified or consecrated day anymore given only to the Lord to worship Him and for ourselves to enjoy. Believers should recognized that God, not only gave this wonderful commandment to us for our good, but He emphasized it by commanding we remember it. However, He knew it would fall along the wayside. He knew believers would excuse away abstaining from labor on the Sabbath by this and that and the other thing. Believers try to use the scripture to excuse themselves from obeying this commandment but it is just as imperative for a believer to believe and obey this 4th commandment as it is for them to believe and obey the other nine. These commandments are of God. God wrote the them on tablets Himself. After that He gave Moses laws, statues and ordinances to help the people further understanding these commandment. These commandments are the foundation of our walk with God. When God gave All His 10 commands to the race of Adam it was for always.
  • Momsage - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Exodus 20: 8-11 also Deuteronomy 5:12-14

    8. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

    9. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

    10. But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

    11. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (The original Greek word for hallowed is "qadash" meaning to set apart or consecrate.)



    As you can see, there is nothing here about drinking wine, although you can. But this day was given specifically

    for rest, not food and fellowship. But doing it that way is good. To me it is a given for us to worship God and fellowship on our day of rest.

    I do whole heartly agree with this that you said: "As He is with us every day without exception , so should we be aware of Him every day and always be trying to do only those things that we know are pleasing to Him ." Being a true Christian means a 100% commitment to our Lord - including obeying ALL his commandments because the 4th is for our physical, mental and spiritual good; to rest every week on the seventh day. The church has somehow abandoned this command of God and seems to think He doesn't care, but how can we justify keeping the other's and discarding this one? Even if the early church did start worshipping on the first day of the week after the crucifixion of Jesus (they didn't) they were also being disobedient to God's commandment and at that time in history would have been severely punished by the Jews because they would have been breaking the sabbath. God Bless:)
  • Momsage - 2 months ago
    SABBATH

    Genesis: 2:2-3 " Thus the heavens and the earth were finished and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made." Exodus 20:8 "Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy."

    "seventh" shebiith: an ordinary number

    "rested" sabath: cease, desist, rest

    "sanctified, holy qadash consecrate

    "sabbath" sabath intermission

    These verses speak of the 4th commandment that God gave (not asked) us to obey to honor Him by resting on the seventh day. God saw this need for us, in order to refresh our bodies, minds and souls. He gave us the other nine, also, for our good. The world, unfortunately, has decided to disregard this commandment so there is no sanctified or consecrated day anymore given only to the Lord to worship Him and for ourselves to enjoy. Believers should recognized that God, not only gave this wonderful commandment to us for our good, but He emphasized it by commanding we remember it. However, He knew it would fall along the wayside. He knew believers would excuse away abstaining from labor on the Sabbath by this and that and the other thing. Believers try to use the scripture to excuse themselves from obeying this commandment but it is just as imperative for a believer to believe and obey this 4th commandment as it is for them to believe and obey the other nine. These commandments are of God. God wrote the them on tablets Himself. After that He gave Moses laws, statues and ordinances to help the people further understanding these commandments. These commandments are the foundation of our walk with God. Because the people had added to the Laws of Moses in many foolish ways these are what Jesus rid the world of when He came, but He didn't, in any way, abolish or change God's commandments. When God gave All His 10 commands to the race of Adam it was for always
  • Tunney on Exodus 24 - 3 months ago
    Romans 8 declares us to be victors in Christ. In all we do, we must trust in HIS word to bring us through the trials and tribulations before us.

    We should declare as the people declared on Exodus 24:7b

    and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient.

    Our declaration should be attached to good works in HIS name, Ephesians 2:10.

    I am writing this during the December 2023 Christmas season. May we all endeavor to worship the LORD JESUS CHRIST in all HIS glory and splendor. GOD to shine HIS glorious face on all who call on HIM in truth and in spirit.

    GOD is praised when we carry out HIS full counsel.

    Merry Christmas everyone and have a prosperous New Year in CHRIST Name.
  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    Further insights on Herod's massacre

    The destruction of offspring made in God's image certainly is occurring today; even if it isn't directly related to idol and demon offerings and sacrifices. Exodus 23:7 and Proverbs 24:11 are prescient verses regarding this matter.

    As I stated in the last post; Satan has come close to his goal but ultimately will never succeed. We should heed to God's warnings when destruction is on the horizon; whether war or famine. It is true that we don't always know what is happening but unlike Lot we should seek to remove ourselves from the council of the ungodly (see Psalm 1) before God's wrath comes. The enemy typically works in two ways; either through direct physical persecution or through deceptions involving the mind (or both). The days of sugarcoating his agenda are gone; as seen from the in your face Satanism in the schools and entertainment.

    The attempt to break free from the fetters and boundaries God has set in place (see Psalm 2) seems to show that the attempted overthrow of Christ Himself as stated in the Psalm as well as Revelation 19 isn't that far off.

    We are salt and light; as long as we remain here on this earth in the "church age". 1 Peter 4:17 states that judgment begins at the house of God and the intrusion of many damnable heresies in many churches today started with subtle deception ( Galatians 5:9). It is clear that God's people is a focus of where the enemy intrudes; we see this with colleges an religious studies; for example where the agenda is even more squewed towards leftist leanings there than in other studies. While we have seen in this nation and European ones in particular this attack plan; the enemy has caused more persecution and death than in all history from what some say in the 20th Century; no doubt continuing today. This tends to grow the church; however. That is a fair warning to those steeped in "Christian tradition" or a form of godliness denying the power ( 2 Tim. 3:5-7).
  • Oseas - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Giannis

    By the Word of GOD - the Word is GOD - self-executing, heavens are celestial environments in Christ that have nothing, but nothing, with the material space of Universe. You are confounding Heaven with Sky, so your interpretion of the Word of GOD is merely a materialist interpretation. Terrible, very terrible. By your words, you have knowledge only of sky, but have not knowledge of Heaven. Your thinking is from HUMAN perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective.

    JESUS took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray, Moses and Elijah came to speak with JESUS, but both did not do any travel through your materialist sky of course. Luke 9:29-36:

    29 And as JESUS prayed, the fashion of His countenance was altered, and His raiment was white and glistering.

    30 And, behold, there talked with Him two men, which were Moses and Elijah:

    32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw His glory, and the two MEN that stood with JESUS.

    33 And it came to pass, as they departed from JESUS, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah: not knowing what he said.

    34 While he thus spake, there came a CLOUD(the same CLOUD of Exodus 24:15-16, understand?), and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the CLOUD.

    35 And there came a voice out of the CLOUD, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear Him.

    36 And when the voice was past, JESUS was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen.

    Yes, Giannis; Moses and Elijah came to speak with JESUS, but both did not do any travel through your materialist sky of course.

    Heaven is not Sky.

    17 Seventy returned with joy, saying: Lord, even the demons are subject unto us through thy name.

    18 JESUS said unto them: I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. (not from Sky)
  • Lee the Follower - In Reply - 5 months ago
    SolaScrip

    Greetings and grace be to you from God our Father.

    You say "I set aside Saturday as the Biblical Sabbath and treat it much differently than any other day that I worship" How so?

    Do you sleep in all day or lounge around the house? No sarcasm intended here I am curious as to what you mean by how you "set aside and treat it differently". Although I do agree with 4th commandment in Exodus 20:8 "Remember the sabbath day, to Keep it holy." I still preach the Gospel on this day just as I do every other day. Am I wrong here? Also is Sunday service not advised? I thought I'd make you aware that I have no 'job' so I either preach the gospel, read the bible or fellowship with other bible believers.

    I thank you kindly in advance. peace be with you in Jesus name.

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  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    Right and wrong: Further considerations.

    We can see a principle involved when it comes to life and death. At the time of Moses; the Pharaoh commanded that the Jewish babies be killed ( Exodus 1:15-22). This involved the boys only; the midwives ignored this; thus Moses himself was preserved ironically his own mother was paid to nurse him until he was raised by Pharoah's daughter ( Exodus 2:8-10). Strange happenings indeed. Later we see the same thing happen under Herod in Matthew 2:16-18. The Lord warned Joseph and he was out of the area at this time. In these situations we can certainly see that taking a life is against God's law and therefore we must not follow man's law of such destruction. Satan is clearly attempting to destroy as many as he can created in God's image.

    Abraham screwed up twice in regard to lying about his wife during famine and in another difficult situation because he feared for his life. God worked that out supernaturally to show the importance of the marriage covenant and the fact that Abraham was a Prophet. ( Genesis 12:11; Genesis 20:2). Amazingly in Genesis 26:7 Isaac did the same thing with Rebekka. You would thing the lesson would have been learned but clearly certain sins run in the family. What we don't know in these situations is whether those who housed these men's wives at the time would have tried to kill these men if they didn't say anything; since God Himself spoke to them probably not; or they wouldn't have succeeded. The last case involved a Philistine king; again pagans had their conscience pricked (in this case Isaac's behavior made it clear he was her husband). We should consider in all this the sanctity of marriage.

    We see Biblical characters such as Jacob messing around with what would have been Esau's blessing. ( Genesis 27-29). Esau wanted his brother murdured ( Gen. 27:41). Heb. 12:16 shows Esau also was a fornicator; and previously had sold his birthright for food ( Gen. 25:29-34). So God allowed it
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Richard,

    You stated: I would also add that we can look to Christ Himself who apparently "broke" the Sabbath law by healing on the Sabbath; having Disciples eating grain and thus "doing work"; etc.

    John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

    Jesus is stating in John 15:10 that he kept His Fathers Commandments - which would include the Sabbath/4th commandment. So what you are stating is in direct conflict with the scripture.

    If you read God's 4th Commandment Exodus 20:10 it is commanding us to refrain from our work, meaning refrain from our normal work, doing things to get us ahead/making money. The Pharisees and the Sadducees made the Sabbath into something that God never intended it to be, and Jesus straightened that out, he showed us what the Sabbath Day is really meant to be. Similar to showing us by His examples, what He meant by recieving water baptism, and how we receive the Holy Spirit etc.

    I would be very careful telling others that Jesus broke the Sabbath, when He states in scripture that he kept all of His Fathers Commandments.

    Happy Sabbath Day!
  • Preacher of Truth - In Reply - 7 months ago
    1 Cor. 2:15. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( John 8:15,16; 16:11; 17:16).

    Comments posted on this discussion forum, that just tell a story but cannot provide deliverance from 'spiritual' bondage or salvation to mankind, raise many questions according to God's judgment.

    Do they follow after an image of a false God ( Exodus 20:3,4,7) and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Luke 9:55;

    2 Cor. 11:13-15; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9) or do they remain ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, but have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God ( Romans 10:3).

    Matthew 7:7. Seek, and ye shall find.
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Veronicagt7

    Yes it is the 4th Commandment.

    Regarding the Sabbath scripturally, this is directly from God.

    Exodus 20:8-11 "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy." Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

    God want's us to rest one day a week. He also wants us to give others a day of rest. Look how crazy this non-stop world goes 24/7/365 days a year. This Sabbath Day is for man, it is a gift to us!

    1 John 2:4 "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him

    GBU
  • Carleton - In Reply - 7 months ago
    P3

    Colossians 2:4 "And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words."

    1 John 2:1 "My little children these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sins we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

    Ephesians 2:3 "But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."

    Exodus 25:13

    Hebrews 9:5 "And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercy seat; of which we cannot now speak particularly."

    John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."

    1 Peter 2:25 "For ye were as sheep gone astray; but now are returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls."

    Isaiah 42:1 "Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring judgement to the Gentiles."

    John 8:28- 29 "Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak those things. And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always these things that please him."

    1 Timothy 2:8 "I will therefore that men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting."

    Romans 9:5 "Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."

    Psalms 45:7 "Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, Thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."

    John 17:1 "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through Thine own name those whom thou has given me, that they may be one, as we are."

    P4 follows
  • Carleton - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hope to continue P3 in the morning. Our missionary family members are visiting this weekend this the stop and go along with the stumble verse.

    I meant Exodus 25:13 written out caused the stumble.
  • Carleton - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi, I think I figured out my problem. Exodus 25:30 written out was causing a stumble.
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Yes, I do honor and try to follow God's Sabbath Day. It is one of Gods Commandments. Please also notice God tells us specifically: To Remember to keep the Sabbath Day.

    Exodus 20:8

    "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."

    When God instructs us To Remember Something why would we want to forget this?

    Exodus 20:9

    "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:"

    He instructs us to rest one day! Is one day too much to ask? I don't know why so many Christians make such a big deal about following Gods Commands.

    Ryan was asking about fishing or golfing. Fishing can be considered relaxation, if he is not a commercial fisherman doing it for a living. His fishing could be a way to relax and unwind from his work week. He would also have the perfect time to pray, give thanks for the time to spend in a relaxing manner enjoying all that God created around while waiting for that next fish to bite.. Golfing could be considered the same, as a relaxing pastime, maybe giving God thanks for the opportunity to breath in some fresh air, get some healthy exercise for the body and so these activities would not be considered work, but a relaxing pastime.

    God simply instructs us to refrain from our work for one day! Is one day too much to ask? I don't know why so many Christians make such a big deal about following Gods Commands.

    You state it is a Jewish Sabbath and you don't follow it. Well Jesus is Jewish, do you follow Jesus? Jesus also asks you the following:

    John 14:15

    "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Remember, Christs followers are Jewish and Gentile, and we are all treated the same now, One Church, ONE GOD!

    GBU
  • Chris - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Hello Adrue1. A Heave Offering was a part of the other types of offerings that God had appointed for the children of Israel. The heave offering was not really a separate offering but the portion of another offering, given as a present, that was reserved for the use of the priests.

    Exodus 29:27,28: And thou shalt sanctify the breast of the wave offering, and the shoulder of the heave offering, which is waved, and which is heaved up, of the ram of the consecration, even of that which is for Aaron, and of that which is for his sons: And it shall be Aaron's and his sons' by a statute for ever from the children of Israel: for it is an heave offering: and it shall be an heave offering from the children of Israel of the sacrifice of their peace offerings, even their heave offering unto the LORD."

    It seems that it was similar to the Wave Offering, where instead of the offering being waved (moved from side-to-side) before the LORD, the Heave Offering was lifted in an up and down motion before God.

    The heave offering was often given in conjunction with tithes ( Leviticus 7:14,34) as a provision for the Levites, the priestly tribe who did not have land of their own and therefore could not grow their own food. They depended on the LORD's provision through tithes and heave offerings ( Numbers 18:24,29).
  • MountHoreb - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Exodus 32:21,22,25,35

    1 Corinthians 15:33,34

    Acts 15:28,29; Exodus 26:1

    POINT: Revelation 22:6-9;

    Revelation 4:11
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 Samuel 28 - 12 months ago
    Apologies for the delay in responding to your question, KD7IVS.

    We see these names, Urim & Thummim mentioned in various passages (e.g. Exodus 28:30, Leviticus 8:8, Numbers 27:21). Not much is known about them (there is even ignorance & debate amongst the Jews about this), except that they were likely stones (maybe precious stones) that were placed in the Jewish high priest's "breastplate of judgement"; sometimes referred to as the "breastplate of decision". Within that breastplate were also the names of the 12 tribes of Israel, so it appears that there might be a connection there, where the high priest used these stones to determine God's Will in certain situations concerning Israel.

    How God chose to guide the priest to a correct judgement/decision is not told us: whether by the appearance of Light (Urim) or Perfections or declaration of Truth (Thummim). In 1 Samuel 28:6 which you referred to, we read of King Saul making enquiry of the LORD, but the LORD did not speak to him, whether by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by the prophets. This then seems to be some of the ways that God revealed His Word to His people, and these stones, Urim & Thummin, were used by the High Priest to learn the answer from God for the people.
  • STU - In Reply - 12 months ago
    Why would the Bible call Mary the mother of God " The Virgin Mary" if she was a sinner and besides Jesus is free from sin so God his Father would not have chosen a sinner to give birth to a sinless Jesus.

    Luke 1:27

    To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

    And Catholics and Orthodox don't make a graven image of the Virgin Mary. And if what you said 'a graven image' then that is untrue.

    Exodus 26:

    Moreover, thou shalt make the tabernacle with ten curtains of fine twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet: with cherubim's of cunning work shalt thou make them.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Gigi.

    That's certainly not something I found on my own.

    Here's a article from J vernon mcgee.

    Part 1 of 5.

    The floor lamp is not a modern invention, but it is as old as the Tabernacle at least. The Tabernacle contained a floor lamp, and that is what the golden candlestick was in the Holy Place. We are substituting the more descriptive title, "lampstand," for the King James rendering of "candlestick." It was more than a candlestick, as we designate such. The blueprint for it is given in Exodus 25:

    And thou shalt make a candlestick of pure gold: of beaten work shall the candlestick be made: his shaft, and his branches, his bowls, his knops, and his flowers, shall be of the same. And six branches shall come out of the sides of it; three branches of the candlestick out of the one side, and three branches of the candlestick out of the other side: three bowls made like unto almonds, with a knop and a flower in one branch; and three bowls made like almonds in the other branch, with a knop and a flower: so in the six branches that come out of the candlestick. And in the candlestick shall be four bowls made like unto almonds, with their knops and their flowers. And there shall be a knop under two branches of the same, and a knop under two branches of the same, and a knop under two branches of the same, according to the six branches that proceed out of the candlestick. Their knops and their branches shall be of the same: all it shall be one beaten work of pure gold. And thou shalt make the seven lamps thereof: and they shall light the lamps thereof, that they may give light over against it. And the tongs thereof, and the snuffdishes thereof, shall be of pure gold. Of a talent of pure gold shall he make it, with all these vessels. And look that thou make them after their pattern, which was shewed thee in the mount.

    ( Exodus 25:31-40)

    See part 2.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Stu,

    You might be looking for Exodus 26:1?
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 86 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 86 (part 2). Further study in the psalm leads us to verse 9; where there is the future plan of God to have ALL nations come before God in worship and praise. This would be an allusion to the many verses indicating the Millennial rule of Christ over the remaining surviving people on the earth as well as His glorified saints ruling and reigning with Christ.

    Vsrse 11 shows the importance of the fear of the Lord; and verse 12 shows how praise with all our hearts will glorify His name forever (also see Exodus 20:3; Deut. 6:5).

    Verse 13 shows how David was delivered from the "lowest hell". We certainly can't claim that hell wasn't referred to in the Old Testament with numerous references in Psalms; Deuteronomy; Proverbs and other scriptures. Once again verse 14 shows the type of "violent men" that pursued David; on and off throughout his lifetime; some cases of which later on were a chastisement due to David's transgressions; such as 2 Samuel 12:9-12). Perhaps verse 16 referring to the son of thy handmaid means that David's mother was still alive at the tie of this writing; I am not sure.

    The Psalm ends with David reflecting on God's mercy and longsuffering characteristics. The last verse reminds us of Psalm 23 where a table is presented before our enemies ( Psalm 23:5).
  • BelieverinChristJesus - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Exodus 20:13


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