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  • Dan Patterson - 2 years ago
    In KJ, Exodus 12:5 "ye shall take from the sheep, or from the goats:"

    Why was a goat allowed to be sacrificed and not a sheep only?

    Thanks,

    Dan
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 11 - 2 years ago
    Hello Taufusi. This passage takes us back to the actual time when Jesus & His disciples celebrated the Passover. You can read it in Matthew 26:17-30. In this passage, Jesus had prepared the heart of a particular man to give his home to Jesus & the disciples to eat the Passover. At this time of dining, Judas is identified as the one who would betray Jesus to the Jewish leaders; and they were eating this meal in memory of the time when the Angel of Death 'passed over' the Israelite homes that displayed the blood on the doorposts & lintels ( Exodus 12:1-14), so that they wouldn't suffer death as the Egyptians did with their firstborn.

    During their meal, Jesus then took a portion of bread (flat bread as eaten in the Middle East & Asia), blessed it & broke it & gave to His disciples. Jesus was showing them that soon He would have to die & His Body broken (put to death) on the Cross. They would now eat it, looking ahead to that time when "Christ must needs have suffered" in death for man's sins & there was no other way for man to be saved & acceptable to God, except by the Cross.

    Jesus then offered them the cup, saying "this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins" & to "drink all of it". Jesus' shed Blood on the Cross looks back to the blood the Israelites placed on the doorposts & lintel of their homes when they were in Egypt. For them, it meant avoiding death in their families - for us who have put our trust in Jesus, it means that we have passed from death & punishment for sins, to new life in Christ. The Blood also showed that it was special - not animal's blood to just shield them from God's Anger, but the Blood of God's Son that guarantees us a complete forgiveness, healing, & acceptance by the Father to all who come to God through Jesus.

    The disciples ate this meal looking forward to the Cross - we eat it now looking back with thanksgiving for what God accomplished for us through His Son, until He returns for us.
  • Free - In Reply on Exodus 12 - 2 years ago
    Dear "Tarus", From childhood i have been ill and had a lot of problems, with various diseases. As i grew older, i became distressed and thanked YES to Jesus Christ. We witness the Lord Jesus Christ to experience that we are transformed.

    2 Corintians 5:17

    Be brave and strong, Joshua 1:9 and that's how it will be. You understand that something good can come out of all the misery. The most important thing for a human being to be saved!

    God wants everyone to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth. 1 Timothy 2:1-4 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

    2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

    3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

    4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

    It can often seem unfair, but it is man who is unfair. God is not Unjust, and He is not tempted by any evil. The unrighteous comes from the wickedness of man in a world full of hatred. James 1:13

    Even the Word of God can cause pain if you do not live right with the Lord. For there have come days when we cannot bear to hear the right doctrine.

    Romans 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

    8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

    9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

    2 Timothy 4:1.8

    God bless us all when He want, Jesus loves u i in Christ.
  • Tarus on Exodus 12 - 2 years ago
    Hello @KJV,

    Why do bad things sometimes happen to good people?
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Page 3.

    If the Spirit speaks to one to keep Sabbath as a rest day, then to that person they should abide - but to another, the Sabbath was not given to Gentiles & any day can be for rest & also for worship ( Romans 14:5,6 & the whole chapter).

    Gentile? If you have no Jewish heritage, then you fall under the Gentile category. If the Gentile has not received the Law, he is a law unto himself ( Romans 2:14,15). Of course, all peoples are under governmental law, unless they're hidden away from society. But for both the Jewish Christian & Gentile Christian, the old Law has no more application or binding, for we are now subject to the Law of the Spirit. I don't believe that anyone with the Holy Spirit within them would ever be led to murder, commit fornication, & other sins. If a believer does sin, then he's going against the Spirit's ministry & appealing to his flesh (& this is why Paul spoke of crucifying the flesh ( Galatians 5:24,25)).

    Jew? When I wrote, 'Jewish convert', I meant that such a person still retains his Jewish heritage/bloodline, but has relinquished all that kept him bound to his faith (Judaism), finding forgiveness of sins, new life & liberty through the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ. The Jews today still await the Messiah, but Jesus came, but they refused Him & crucified Him ( John 1:10-14). But the day will come when they will acknowledge Jesus ( Zechariah 12:10,11; Revelation 1:7,8). People have in the past become Jewish proselytes, embracing Judaism, its Laws & Practises ( Exodus 12:48,49; Acts 2:10; Acts 6:5; Acts 13:43). I hope that I've covered all your questions; if you have other questions feel free to start a new thread. Blessings.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Numbers 9 - 2 years ago
    Hi Sarah,

    The Passover and how it was to be done you will find in Exodus 12:3-11, read all of Exodus 12. The Passover day is on the 14th of Nisan the day Jesus was crucified; this day is also a preparation day for the 15th the first day of 7 days of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Jewish people on Passover, gather together for a ceremonial meal called a seder and telling of the story of the Exodus from Egypt.

    Some Christians celebrate passion week and Easter Sunday, the day Jesus resurrected, and some just Easter Sunday. It is easy to get lost in traditions, there comfortable and many have reunions on these holidays.

    You say you are concerned; Passover is one of the feasts that Israelites were required to return to Jerusalem. Many combine the Passover and the Unleavened Bread feast into 8 days and call it the feast of Passover or the Feast of Unleavened bread, they did that in the time of Jesus, Matthew 26:17 Luke 22:1.

    By following traditions we can overlook what Jesus fulfilled, He rode in on the 10th of Nisan, the Passover day on the 14th of Nisan, the day He was crucified, the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world, the Tamid, the first and the last, the feast of Unleavened Bread with His perfect life, the feast of First Fruits, the day He was resurrected, He ascended the same time as the priest waved the Omer, John 20:17 He is the First Fruits of those who slept, 1 Corinthians 15:20, that we now call Easter.

    1Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

    My understanding is Passover is a sacrifice that Jesus fulfilled; and no other blood sacrifice is needed, if done in faith, how you remember or honor it is up to you.

    1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

    God bless

    RLW
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 2 years ago
    Hello Gitai. That's a good question, as these differences in the use of God (as a Name), can be found right through the Scriptures.

    In the references you gave, we can understand & know the meaning of the various names given. In Genesis chapter 1, the author refers to God as 'God' (or, Elohim). Elohim, is a general name for the True God, as it can also be used to depict other gods (e.g. Genesis 31:30; Exodus 12:12), of angels ( Psalm 8:5), of men ( Psalm 82:6), of judges/rulers ( Exodus 21:6)). So, in relation to God's creative Work, the Name Elohim was given here. And of course, Elohim is also used of the True God elsewhere in the Bible, where creating is not signified (e.g. Genesis 35:7).

    But in Genesis chapter 2 we see the use of the word, LORD (or, Yahweh), & this signifies a special revelation & a special relationship to Israel: 'Yahweh' means the active, self-existent One (as in Exodus 3:14, where the word is connected to the verb, 'to be') & also being Israel's Redeemer ( Exodus 6:6). So the use of the word, LORD, signifies this True God (Elohim) is not distant (as seen by His other Works), but is now revealed in a most personal way to Israel as LORD (Yahweh); hence combining the two words to read, LORD God. And from Genesis 2:2 onwards, this Name is used to signify the commencement of a personal interaction with His creation.

    And when we read the word, 'Lord', this means 'master, lord, sovereign' (as in Genesis 15:2). Hence we can have a variety of combinations: God, LORD God, Lord God, each one depicting what the author has received from God that has to be revealed to the reader (chiefly, Israel in the OT references). And of interest, this God Who is a personal God, is also experienced in many ways in that relationship. Hence, we get compound Names of Yahweh, such Yahweh-Jireh (the God Who will see to it; or provides); Yahweh-Shalom (the God Who gives peace); & many other compound Names.
  • GiGi on Exodus 12 - 2 years ago
    ....continued.

    Pharaoh even had the gall to ask Moses to bless him. He must have feared for his own life. Even the Egyptian people told the Israelites to leave in haste because they feared they all would die if they remained. The Israelites did as instructed, asking the Egyptians for gold, silver, raiment, which the Egyptians gave willingly. And so it is said that in this way the Israelites plundered Egypt. So they must have left with quite a haul. The Israelites carried their kneading bowl on their shoulders and the dough they had made lacked leaven and they left Egypt, journeying as far as Succoth from Raamses(in Goshen). Where was this Succoth? EAst of Egypt between Raamses and Etham. Many other people exited Egypt with the Israelites. Their origins are not mentioned.

    This chapter mentions that the length of the sojourn of Israelites was 430 years, as told to Abraham in Genesis.

    So, as mentioned in several posts on this chapter, this account of the passover has many instances that point to Jesus. He was the "first born" who was slaughtered. He was the passover lamb that was sacrificed for God's people's deliverance from the plague of death. His blood was shed and spread over the doorway of our bodies, our hearts. He was the unleavened bread, without sin, broken for us. His bones were not broken just like the lambs'. He died so that His people can live. His blood marks us as His own people.

    The Israelites needed to have faith that God would indeed spare them when he "saw" the blood on their doorways. The Israelites were to do all as Moses instructed them by faith that God's ways are right and he is faithful to His words to Moses. The Israelites were to leave on Moses' command and not even think about staying behind and by faith, believe that God would lead them to a land they did not know. The Israelites where then instructed to perpetuate this passover meal forever as a remembrance of God's deliverance of them from death, bondage, and the ways of Egypt.
  • GiGi on Exodus 12 - 2 years ago
    As this chapter opens, God instructs Moses exactly how the Israelites were to so prepare for the Passover that night and how the Passover must be celebrated from that night on each year by the Israelites forever. God tells Moses that this night will always be the first day of the new year for Israel. (must have had a different day they used as the first day of the new year before this). The Passover (that night) was after the spring equinox, mid-month the first month of Aviv (Spring) in the month of Nisan.

    In verse 12 God tells Moses He will execute judgment on all of the gods of Egypt. The Egyptian god for life was Osiris, the great god to the Egyptians. In this final plague God will show Himself supreme over even Osiris, having power over life and death.

    Moses instructs the Israelites precisely what they were to do to be passed over by the agents of death sent by God. Obedience was necessary for any Israelite to be spared from death. They were to make unleavened bread for one meal. A lamb selected and slaughtered at midnight (when the plague of death began). They were to use hyssop to spread the blood of the lamb upon the doorposts and lintel. The lamb was to be roasted whole with it's innards intact and no bones are to be broken. It was to be eaten with bitter herbs in haste. The lamb was be consumed completely that night with none left for the next day. They were to be girded up, packed up, staff in hand ready to flee at the command of Moses. They were to stay in their houses until Moses' command came for them to flee in haste.

    And thus, at midnight the destroyer came upon Egypt and first born Egyptians and beasts began to be killed. In the middle of the night, Pharaoh arises, hearing the loud crying of his people, servants. He must have discovered that his firstborn had been killed, too. He immediately summoned Moses and Aaron, and they came to Pharoah during the night. Pharaoh commands Moses and Aaron to leave immediately with the Israelites and livestock
  • Richard D. Fairhurst - 2 years ago
    I agree that Genesis 15:13-14 was fulfilled when Israel left Eygpt in Exodus 12:36, but I believe that verse 16 was not fulfilled until Judges 1:20 when Hebron was taken. In order for the 4th generation to "come back here" they had to reach Hebron where Abraham heard these words ( Genesis 14:13). Because the Amorites had just fought as Abraham's allies God would not judge them until the 4th generation after the Exodus was ready to fight them. If any 1st generation freed Israelite man that perished in the wilderness begat a son that turned 20 and begat his grandson shortly after the army census in Numbers 1:20 in turn begat his great grandson prior to the 30th year in the wilderness than a great grandson of the 1st Exodus generation fighters would have reached fighting age when Hebron was taken. Abraham was being comforted that he would die in peace and not have to witness the judgment of his allies. God delay judgment of their sins by Abraham's descendants to recognize their part in the victory Abraham had just won for his nephew Lot.

    This interpretation also shows that the wilderness wandering was actually a mercy to Abraham that allowed God time to raise an army that was far more worthy of victory over Abraham's allies descendants only after God allowed the full measure of their sins to show that their descendants judgement was just. That 1st generation unbelieving army of Exodus slaves that tested God 10 times and shrank back from fighting was unworthy in God's sight of judging the sins of Abraham's Amorite allies descendants and would have been unworthy of victory over them in Abraham's sight as well.
  • Jcbu undercover - In Reply on Exodus 12 - 2 years ago
    Yes now were growing leavened with the yeast of the bible.God bless SU we will all grow togeather ,and keep seeking keep recieving keep blessing.Keep asking! it has never been so easy.We are all heading to the same place to soar with eagles on the wings of eagles to Jesus to the heavens above.
  • Su - In Reply on Exodus 12 - 2 years ago
    A very good question. I have read that there are some very definite problems yeast can cause in the body, and by avoiding yeast it might alleviate some of these problems.

    I had a book put across my path called "The Yeast Connection" written by Dr.Crook, who now has a website online. It is very informative. One of the problems he highlights in his book is that yeast can cause a yeast infection to occur anywhere in the body including the gut. A person with yeast infection often craves sugar and alcohol (which is high in sugar). The yeast turns sugars, even sugars in fruit, into alcohol in the gut. I think we all know the woes too much alcohol can do to a body over time.
  • Jcbu undercover on Exodus 12 - 2 years ago
    Hello God bless everyone just thinking about the passover ,and if it helps to heal people of any diseases no yeast?And when they came out of Egypt God said they would not get the diseases of Egypt if they kept the ordinances of God.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Genesis 15:13-14, Genesis 37, Genesis 39, Genesis 40, Genesis 41, Genesis 47, Genesis 50:22,23, Exodus 1:1-7, Exodus 1:8-12. Note Exodus 1:11,20, Exodus 2:1, please note: John 8:39, biblical times lineage of Levi & Abraham very significant, therefore they would call themselves or other's by the name, many generations. Matthew 1:1, Matthew 22:42, Exodus 6:16-27, Exodus 12:40,41,

    Hope this helps.
  • Jim - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Rick

    You mentioned an apple and I would agree it just says the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The lamb I believe is different. Adam and Eve needed proper covering. They covered themselves with fig leaves. Fig leaves will not cover our sins. The lamb of God will. Jesus in John 1:29,36 is called the lamb of God. When the eunuch was preach to by Philip ( Act 8:32-35) the eunuch was reading from the passage in Isaiah 53:7. Philip preached unto his Jesus. Described as a lamb. When the children of Israel in Egypt were preparing for the passover so that the angel of death didn't kill their first born. A lamb was used. Exodus 12:1-14

    When Abraham was taking Isaac to be sacrificed Isaac asked him where the lamb was. It must have been a animal used for burnt offerings.

    Gen 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?

    Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.Abraham also believed in the resurrection. Consider Hebrews 11

    Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

    Heb 11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

    Heb 11:19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.Notice how important the promises are. What promises is he talking about? The whole chapter is about the promise.

    Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

    Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

    Abraham as of today has not yet recieved the promise.

    I'm running out of space. I'II have to start another dialog box to finish this.
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    S. Durdan Look at the qualifications of the passover lamb Exodus 12:1-10 one major detail it had to be a lamb

    of the first year, there are actually a few good studies i've read where Jesus christ ministry may have been one year

    I.E. beginning in Luke 4:16-21 and of course ending Acts 1:9-11. Something to look into.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Here are a few scriptures to help point towards truth in this question:

    Genesis 1:1-8, creation of heavens or heaven aka Universe.

    Genesis 1:14-19 GOD created the lights within the heavens/universe Earth's Moon & Sun, the galaxies, stars

    2 Peter 3:8, I take this scripture also in consideration when trying to calculate.

    Genesis 5:1-5, (Adam), Genesis 5:6-8, (Seth), Genesis 5:9-11 (Enos), Genesis 5:12-14 (Cainan), Genesis 5:15-17 (Mahalaleel), Genesis 5:18-20 (Jared), Genesis 5:21-24 (Enoch), Genesis 5:25-27 (Methuselah), Genesis 5:28-31 (Lamech), Genesis 5:32 beginning of Noahs days. Genesis 9:28-29, (Noah) , these all can be calculated

    Genesis 10, goes from Noah's sons into historical events, which are more difficult to calculate. Then picks up again at Genesis 10:29 (Abram) aka Abraham. Genesis 11 also has calculatable ages.

    Matthew 1:17,

    To add to the difficulty in exact dates the beginning of the year changed for the Hebrews in Exodus 12:2,18,27, which is celebrated in Spring. In todays calendar is usually 3rd or 4th month of our calendar.

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
  • Amarin - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Correction to my post: Pentecost occurs in the Summer. The Fall Feast should begin with the Day of Blowing the Trumpet.

    Correct listing of The 7 Feasts

    Spring Feasts (Fulfilled by Christ):

    1.Passover, Exodus 12:1-14 (Death of Christ)

    2.Feast of Unleavened Bread, Leviticus 23:6 (Christ was without any sin)

    3.Feast of Firstfruits, 23:10; Leviticus 23:9-14 (Resurrection of Christ)

    Summer Feast (Fulfilled by Christ):

    4.Feast of Weeks / Pentecost, Leviticus 23: 16-21 (Holy Spirit indwelling in believers of Christ)

    Fall Feasts (To Be Fulfilled by Christ in the future):

    5.Feast of Trumpets, Leviticus 23:23-25 [Rapture of believers of Christ; Second Exodus of 12 Tribes of Israel ( Jeremiah 31:7-11)]

    6.Day of Atonement, Leviticus 23: 26-32 (The Second Coming of Christ)

    7.Feast of Tabernacles, Leviticus 23:39-43 (Christ ruling in His New Kingdom for 1,000 years)
  • Amarin - In Reply - 2 years ago
    This might explain why in Matthew 4 Christ was not tempted any day earlier than the 40 days and 40 nights because God is in control of all things. If Christ had been tempted earlier it would not clearly point to The Day of Atonement as a likely Day for the Return of Jesus Christ with Him defeating all of the evil of this world by obeying God's Words.

    Joel 2 describes the blowing of Trumpets on the Day that Christ returns on His Second Coming.

    Another ancient tradition is that Moses fasted for 40 days and 40 nights ( Exodus 34:28) before receiving God's Commandments at Mount Sinai. The tradition states Moses received the Commandments on the Day of Atonement. The blowing of trumpets in Exodus 19 and 20 is associated with at Mount Sinai at that time.

    So Christ was fasting during the same period as Moses, and Christ also stood with the Statutes, Laws, and Commandments of God on The Day of Atonement.

    Here are some possible ways the 7 Feasts might point to the Life of Christ:

    Spring Feasts (Fulfilled by Christ):

    1.Passover, Exodus 12:1-14 (Death of Christ)

    2.Feast of Unleavened Bread, Leviticus 23:6 (Christ was without any sin)

    3.Feast of FirstFruits, 23:10; Leviticus 23:9-14 (Resurrection of Christ)

    Fall Feasts (To Be Fulfilled by Christ in the future):

    4.Feast of Weeks / Pentecost, Leviticus 23: 16-21 (Holy Spirit indwelling in believers of Christ)

    5.Feast of Trumpets, Leviticus 23:23-25 [Rapture of believers of Christ; Second Exodus of 12 Tribes of Israel ( Jeremiah 31:7-11)]

    6.Day of Atonement, Leviticus 23: 26-32 (The Second Coming of Christ)

    7.Feast of Tabernacles, Leviticus 23:39-43 (Christ ruling in His New Kingdom for 1,000 years)
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 8 - 2 years ago
    Gerard,

    Traditions and holidays in Christianity have pagan influences that are with us today, and it is up to us individually what we do we do, we live, and we die unto the Lord. Your concern on the day Jesus was crucified, you are right, three days and three nights do not fit with Friday. What day of the week fits and are there scriptures that show what day it was?

    We know Jesus rose on the first day of the week and it was before sunrise, Luke 24:1 Mark 16:9 John 20:1. The first day starts sundown on the Sabbath day the seventh day, so it was after the sun went down on the seventh day while it was still dark.

    In John 12:1, he writes six days before Passover, Jesus in Bethany, and John 12:12-16 the next day Jesus rode into Jerusalem. This would be 5 days before Passover and with Jesus fulfilling this feast it would be the tenth of Nisan when the lambs were taken up Exodus 12:1-6. We call this Palm Sunday. The Passover day is on the 14th which is a preparation day for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, a Sabbath day, Exodus 12:15-16.

    So, if Sunday is the tenth, Mon. 11th, Tue 12th, Wed. 13th, Thur. 14th, Passover day, the day Jesus was crucified. Friday a Sabbath that John called a high day, John 19:31, Saturday a weekly Sabbath two Sabbaths back-to-back. If it was on a Friday, it's like you said, it does not fit, if it was any other day like Sun. Mon. Tue. Wed. the women could have gone to the tomb before the weekly Sabbath with the spices for Jesus' body.

    If you would like I can give the scriptures that cover what Jesus did each day after he rode into Jerusalem, it matches as well.

    Hope this helps.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sister GiGi. I understand that you wisely don't wish to pursue with this thread, but I offer the following for understanding what is seen in the verses Earl has presented.

    Psalm 82:6, the verse which Jesus quotes to the Jewish leaders, refers to "gods" as 'Elohim'. This is a word that has several meanings, as it applies to both the true God & to other applications of that word. Elohim is a generic word, used for God ( Genesis 1:1); for pagan gods ( Genesis 31:30, Exodus 12:12); for angels ( Psalm 8:5, cf Hebrews 2:7); for men ( Psalm 82:6); for judges ( Exodus 21:6).

    So when we come to John 10:34-36, Jesus is being accused of blasphemy, "thou, being a man, makest thyself God", since Jesus had said to them, "I and my Father are one" & in previous verses. Jesus then goes on to explain that the 'Elohim' of Psalm 82:6, which corresponds to the 'theos' of John 10:34, should actually not be a problem to them as we're all 'gods' in this general meaning of the word, 'Elohim' - we are NOT part of the Deity & NEVER will be, nor of the angelic realm, but certainly of men, rulers & judges (as those so appointed).

    The Lord then continues His discourse with the Jews, questioning them, 'that if He is sanctified & sent by God, doing the Works of God, why shouldn't His claim to be the Son of God bother them?' Since we all come under the general word 'theos', if One coming, does the Works of God & brings the Word of God, should He not be rightfully (& more correctly) be called the Son of God? Is Jesus side-stepping the revelation of His actual position as God in the flesh? I see Jesus answering the Jews according to the charge they were laying against Him, that His claim 'making Himself God', was no different to any other claim to it by others. But if their eyes would one day be opened, they would realize that before them was no generic 'Elohim/Theos', but Theos Himself. They were far from reaching that position of understanding, not even understanding Psalm 82:6 & meaning of Elohim.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 12 - 2 years ago
    Hey Scott,

    Passover is on the 14th of Nisan; it is a preparation day for the feast of unleavened bread, which is the 15th through the 21st. The first day of this feast is a holy convocation (Sabbath) the only work you can do is to eat. Jesus was crucified on Passover day and died around 3 PM. They had to get Him in the tomb before sundown which would be the first day of the feast a Sabbath day.

    Many choose Wednesday for that day but if Jesus was crucified on Wednesday and put in the tomb before sundown, the first day of the feast would be on Thursday a Sabbath day. That would leave Friday a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath on Saturday. The Mary's and all the disciples could have gone to the tomb on Friday with the spices and anoint Jesus' body because there were no restrictions on Friday.

    If the day Jesus was crucified was Thursday, Friday would be the first day of the feast, a Sabbath as S Spencer said a high day, and Saturday was the weekly Sabbath. Two Sabbaths in a row puts Sunday which starts sundown Saturday the first chance they could go to the tomb.

    The crucifixion on Thursday gives three days and three nights. Thursday/ Day, Friday/Night and Day, Saturday/Night and Day, Sunday/Night, Jesus resurrected before sunrise on Feast of Firstfruits which He was the First Fruits of those who slept.

    What is kind of confusing the Passover lambs are killed on the 14th Passover day and are eaten the night of the 15th the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread?

    ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Exodus 12:29-33) ( Leviticus 23:5) ( Numbers 33:1-3) ( Deuteronomy 16:1-8)

    Oh, by the way, the word even, is anytime afternoon when the sun starts going down until sundown which starts a new day.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Carry Lennert,

    I'm not sure what you are working on, this is not to cause debate, I hope you don't mind if I may give some information that may help you on your search. You say they did not know at sundown and that is when Joseph took His body. Jesus was crucified on the Passover day, 14 th of Nisan, which was a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread 15 th - 21 st, which the first day is a holy convocation. That is a sabbath day that the only work you could do is to prepare food to eat. There were two Sabbaths, Friday and Saturday John called it a high day ( John 19:31). ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Leviticus 23:5-7), ( Numbers 33:1-3)

    They had to get Jesus down and in the tomb, before the sun went down, when the sun goes down it starts the next day, the 15 th that started the feast of Unleavened Bread the night they ate the Passover which the first day is a Sabbath. ( Matthew 27:46-50) ( Mark 15:34-37) ( Luke 23:52-56) ( John 19:30-31). The ninth hour is 3 to 4 PM, The preparation and Sabbath they are talking about, the 14 th Passover day, the 15 th, the first day of the feast that will start at sundown.

    It may seem a long time from 3 PM to 7 PM but look at what happened after Jesus gave up the ghost, people went to Pilate to partition that the bodies be taken down. He sent the soldiers to go and break their legs at would take a while before they would die. The reason they broke their legs was they could not push up with their legs so they could breathe, so they die of asphyxia.

    After that Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate asking for Jesus' body, Nicodemus, a Pharisee that first met Jesus at night not wanting to be seen, brought the spices for the burial. When Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate he did not believe Jesus was dead already, he even sent for the centurion to verify Jesus had died that quickly. You would think 6 hours would be long enough. ( Mark 15:44-45).

    I hope this little amount of information will help, 2000 characters are short.

    RLW
  • Reggie Hursh - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Larry,

    This prophetic story continues and eventually comes full circle:

    ( Isaiah 14:2) And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

    What group of people did the house of Israel (Ephraim & Manasseh) take as their captives, whose captives they once were for four hundred thirty years? ( Exodus 12:41) Who are the descendants of Egypt that were held slaves when England & America gained prominence?
  • Philip Christian Parks on Galatians 5 - 2 years ago
    Of the "leaven"; Gal. 5:9 = Scriptures always typify leaven as sin and evil, and all that GOD hates and forbids (cp. Exo. 34:25).

    A "little" leaven will spread throughout the substance until it pollutes the whole. This principle is proven by the rule of "first mention" as recorded in Exodus 12:15 and 19 as GOD declared regarding the Passover Meal: "Seven days shall you eat unleavened bread; even the first day you shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eats leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off {eliminated; destroyed; killed} from Israel."

    Leaven typifies ...

    + evil and forbidden religious traditions and practices which pervert the true Religion ( Lev. 2:11; Amos 4:5-5; Mt. 13:33; Lu. 13:21);

    + evil doctrinal errors which pervert the True Gospel ( Mt. 16:6-12; Gal. 5:9);

    + blatant sinful character ( Mk. 8:15);

    + hypocrisy (Lu. 12:1);

    + pride and boasting ( 1Cor. 5:6);

    + fornication and the fornicator ( 1Cor. 5:7); and

    + malice and wickedness ( 1Cor. 5:8).
  • Juliana JooSabba - In Reply on Luke 14 - 2 years ago
    About this longevity, About Moses. Typological errors in the bible or could be from SATAN WHO BENT HIS LIFE TO CONFUSE THE CHILDREN OF GOD OR THE WORK OF THE

    Type setters or type writers made of iron and have no life in themselves, so they can make mistakes.

    The original scripts were Holy Spirit guided by d writers who were Holy Spirit filled then.

    I show u one example from the Bible and work it out itself

    Moses and d Israelites

    God told Abraham

    Genesis 15.13

    13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years

    Moses appeared before Pharaoh at 80 years old

    King James Bible

    And Moses was fourscore years old, and Aaron fourscore and three years old, when they spoke to Pharaoh

    In Exodus 12:40 we read: The dwellings of the children of Israel that they dwelt in Egypt were 430 years. Verse 41 reiterates that after 430 years all the legions of God left Egypt. The verse seems to be stating a non-debatable historical fact. That is, that the Children of Israel were in Egypt for 430 years before their Exodus.

    (Q) 7 Moses was a hundred and twenty years old(R) when he died, yet his eyes were not weak(S) nor his strength gone.(T) 8 The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab(U) thirty days,(V) until the time of weeping and mourning(W) was over.

    Work it out ur self

    If the Israeli completed 400 years according to God in Genesis 15.13

    Then they spent another 30 years for whatever it was. Which Moses spent with them after God sent him to pharaoh and he was 80 years old when he appeared before Pharaoh, died at 120 years, how can this be right except for typography error. I didn't know this but d Holy Spirit highlighted it to me. There r many of these errors in d bible, it only takes d Holy Spirit to point it out to u when u need them.

    Work of the Holy Spirit to remind us what has past, present and future John chapter 16.
  • Gabriel Bonner on Exodus 12 - 3 years ago
    Good morning. And thank you for sharing God words. blessed you all. But, my comment is that. why is this reading in english only? Thank you for your understanding.
  • Read the bible - In Reply on Exodus 12 - 3 years ago
    Jesus said that if people are not of God they will not hear or understand. The Pharisees where the perfect example .

    We all are learning and growing in the knowledge of God and truth Or have rejected it . Gods will is that all will come to the knowledge of the truth . In time before judgement day . But many refuse .

    But When Jesus appears then all will come to the knowledge of the truth . But as He said be ready for he comes quickly .

    This is my hope the time when I see him as He is , and will be changed to be like him ! Amen

    On the last day .
  • OnlytruthintheworldKJV - In Reply on Exodus 12 - 3 years ago
    Yea, of a truth; the roman catholic church is responsible for renaming pagan gods (i.e. "God the son" aka nimrod & "God the holy spirit" aka semiramis; which are no gods) & pagan festivals to cause unlearned "christians" who don't study the scriptures and do their due dilligence to go to hell.

    If you research the origin of the christ-mass (which literally means the massacre of Christ) aka "christmas" you will find out that it is actually the roman pagan festival called saturnalia. Jesus Christ wasn't born on Dec 25th, nor was his birthday celebrated in Scripture. Dec. 25th is the winter solstice when the Sun-god is worshipped by pagans.

    Likewise Easter is actually a pagan holiday in reverence to ishtar aka diana aka semiramis : the pagan sun goddess of fertility.

    This is why all 501c3 roman/babylonian whorehouses masquerading as "churches" all have easter sunrise service where they face the east.

    This is why Herod celebrated easter.

    But the great whore MYSTERY BABYLON MOTHER OF HARLOTS (aka the roman catholic church) and all her jesui infiltrated daughters don't want you to know that.

    "Take heed that no man deceive you."

    -Jesus Christ
  • Mishael - In Reply on Exodus 12 - 3 years ago
    I believe the word Easter was used to disguise the holiday descending from 'Astarte' or Ishtar?

    Pagan gods worshipped by unbelievers.

    I also heard the Catholic Church was involved in the re-naming...

    Anyone else??

    Comon Chris. :D


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