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Exodus 12 KJV Bible discussions
 
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Genesis 15:13-14, Genesis 37, Genesis 39, Genesis 40, Genesis 41, Genesis 47, Genesis 50:22,23, Exodus 1:1-7, Exodus 1:8-12. Note Exodus 1:11,20, Exodus 2:1, please note: John 8:39, biblical times lineage of Levi & Abraham very significant, therefore they would call themselves or other's by the name, many generations. Matthew 1:1, Matthew 22:42, Exodus 6:16-27, Exodus 12:40,41,

    Hope this helps.
  • Jim - in Reply
    Hi Rick

    You mentioned an apple and I would agree it just says the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The lamb I believe is different. Adam and Eve needed proper covering. They covered themselves with fig leaves. Fig leaves will not cover our sins. The lamb of God will. Jesus in John 1:29,36 is called the lamb of God. When the eunuch was preach to by Philip ( Act 8:32-35) the eunuch was reading from the passage in Isaiah 53:7. Philip preached unto his Jesus. Described as a lamb. When the children of Israel in Egypt were preparing for the passover so that the angel of death didn't kill their first born. A lamb was used. Exodus 12:1-14

    When Abraham was taking Isaac to be sacrificed Isaac asked him where the lamb was. It must have been a animal used for burnt offerings.

    Gen 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?

    Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.Abraham also believed in the resurrection. Consider Hebrews 11

    Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

    Heb 11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

    Heb 11:19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.Notice how important the promises are. What promises is he talking about? The whole chapter is about the promise.

    Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

    Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

    Abraham as of today has not yet recieved the promise.

    I'm running out of space. I'II have to start another dialog box to finish this.
  • Rick Mentzer - in Reply
    S. Durdan Look at the qualifications of the passover lamb Exodus 12:1-10 one major detail it had to be a lamb

    of the first year, there are actually a few good studies i've read where Jesus christ ministry may have been one year

    I.E. beginning in Luke 4:16-21 and of course ending Acts 1:9-11. Something to look into.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Here are a few scriptures to help point towards truth in this question:

    Genesis 1:1-8, creation of heavens or heaven aka Universe.

    Genesis 1:14-19 GOD created the lights within the heavens/universe Earth's Moon & Sun, the galaxies, stars

    2 Peter 3:8, I take this scripture also in consideration when trying to calculate.

    Genesis 5:1-5, (Adam), Genesis 5:6-8, (Seth), Genesis 5:9-11 (Enos), Genesis 5:12-14 (Cainan), Genesis 5:15-17 (Mahalaleel), Genesis 5:18-20 (Jared), Genesis 5:21-24 (Enoch), Genesis 5:25-27 (Methuselah), Genesis 5:28-31 (Lamech), Genesis 5:32 beginning of Noahs days. Genesis 9:28-29, (Noah) , these all can be calculated

    Genesis 10, goes from Noah's sons into historical events, which are more difficult to calculate. Then picks up again at Genesis 10:29 (Abram) aka Abraham. Genesis 11 also has calculatable ages.

    Matthew 1:17,

    To add to the difficulty in exact dates the beginning of the year changed for the Hebrews in Exodus 12:2,18,27, which is celebrated in Spring. In todays calendar is usually 3rd or 4th month of our calendar.

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
  • Amarin - in Reply
    Correction to my post: Pentecost occurs in the Summer. The Fall Feast should begin with the Day of Blowing the Trumpet.

    Correct listing of The 7 Feasts

    Spring Feasts (Fulfilled by Christ):

    1.Passover, Exodus 12:1-14 (Death of Christ)

    2.Feast of Unleavened Bread, Leviticus 23:6 (Christ was without any sin)

    3.Feast of Firstfruits, 23:10; Leviticus 23:9-14 (Resurrection of Christ)

    Summer Feast (Fulfilled by Christ):

    4.Feast of Weeks / Pentecost, Leviticus 23: 16-21 (Holy Spirit indwelling in believers of Christ)

    Fall Feasts (To Be Fulfilled by Christ in the future):

    5.Feast of Trumpets, Leviticus 23:23-25 [Rapture of believers of Christ; Second Exodus of 12 Tribes of Israel ( Jeremiah 31:7-11)]

    6.Day of Atonement, Leviticus 23: 26-32 (The Second Coming of Christ)

    7.Feast of Tabernacles, Leviticus 23:39-43 (Christ ruling in His New Kingdom for 1,000 years)
  • Amarin - in Reply
    This might explain why in Matthew 4 Christ was not tempted any day earlier than the 40 days and 40 nights because God is in control of all things. If Christ had been tempted earlier it would not clearly point to The Day of Atonement as a likely Day for the Return of Jesus Christ with Him defeating all of the evil of this world by obeying God's Words.

    Joel 2 describes the blowing of Trumpets on the Day that Christ returns on His Second Coming.

    Another ancient tradition is that Moses fasted for 40 days and 40 nights ( Exodus 34:28) before receiving God's Commandments at Mount Sinai. The tradition states Moses received the Commandments on the Day of Atonement. The blowing of trumpets in Exodus 19 and 20 is associated with at Mount Sinai at that time.

    So Christ was fasting during the same period as Moses, and Christ also stood with the Statutes, Laws, and Commandments of God on The Day of Atonement.

    Here are some possible ways the 7 Feasts might point to the Life of Christ:

    Spring Feasts (Fulfilled by Christ):

    1.Passover, Exodus 12:1-14 (Death of Christ)

    2.Feast of Unleavened Bread, Leviticus 23:6 (Christ was without any sin)

    3.Feast of FirstFruits, 23:10; Leviticus 23:9-14 (Resurrection of Christ)

    Fall Feasts (To Be Fulfilled by Christ in the future):

    4.Feast of Weeks / Pentecost, Leviticus 23: 16-21 (Holy Spirit indwelling in believers of Christ)

    5.Feast of Trumpets, Leviticus 23:23-25 [Rapture of believers of Christ; Second Exodus of 12 Tribes of Israel ( Jeremiah 31:7-11)]

    6.Day of Atonement, Leviticus 23: 26-32 (The Second Coming of Christ)

    7.Feast of Tabernacles, Leviticus 23:39-43 (Christ ruling in His New Kingdom for 1,000 years)
  • Ronald L Whittemore - in Reply on Matthew 8
    Gerard,

    Traditions and holidays in Christianity have pagan influences that are with us today, and it is up to us individually what we do we do, we live, and we die unto the Lord. Your concern on the day Jesus was crucified, you are right, three days and three nights do not fit with Friday. What day of the week fits and are there scriptures that show what day it was?

    We know Jesus rose on the first day of the week and it was before sunrise, Luke 24:1 Mark 16:9 John 20:1. The first day starts sundown on the Sabbath day the seventh day, so it was after the sun went down on the seventh day while it was still dark.

    In John 12:1, he writes six days before Passover, Jesus in Bethany, and John 12:12-16 the next day Jesus rode into Jerusalem. This would be 5 days before Passover and with Jesus fulfilling this feast it would be the tenth of Nisan when the lambs were taken up Exodus 12:1-6. We call this Palm Sunday. The Passover day is on the 14th which is a preparation day for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, a Sabbath day, Exodus 12:15-16.

    So, if Sunday is the tenth, Mon. 11th, Tue 12th, Wed. 13th, Thur. 14th, Passover day, the day Jesus was crucified. Friday a Sabbath that John called a high day, John 19:31, Saturday a weekly Sabbath two Sabbaths back-to-back. If it was on a Friday, it's like you said, it does not fit, if it was any other day like Sun. Mon. Tue. Wed. the women could have gone to the tomb before the weekly Sabbath with the spices for Jesus' body.

    If you would like I can give the scriptures that cover what Jesus did each day after he rode into Jerusalem, it matches as well.

    Hope this helps.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    John 11:55, Mark 14:12, John 6:4, Luke 22:1,

    John 12:1,12,13, John 13:1-2,

    Matthew 27:15,

    1st Sabbath being the Passover feast.

    Exodus 12,

    2nd Sabbath Matthew 28:1,

    Psalms 81:3, also significant Mark 15:33, total solar Eclipse, New moon?

    We should be careful not to follow after traditions set up by men, but Study to understand. Colossians 2:8, Matthew 15:3, Mark 7:9

    Why would Jesus rebuke them over tradition? Because even today it causes doubt, & confusion amongst the church.

    Hopefully these scriptures are helpful. GOD's WORD is truth.

    Tradition is not 100% reliable.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Sister GiGi. I understand that you wisely don't wish to pursue with this thread, but I offer the following for understanding what is seen in the verses Earl has presented.

    Psalm 82:6, the verse which Jesus quotes to the Jewish leaders, refers to "gods" as 'Elohim'. This is a word that has several meanings, as it applies to both the true God & to other applications of that word. Elohim is a generic word, used for God ( Genesis 1:1); for pagan gods ( Genesis 31:30, Exodus 12:12); for angels ( Psalm 8:5, cf Hebrews 2:7); for men ( Psalm 82:6); for judges ( Exodus 21:6).

    So when we come to John 10:34-36, Jesus is being accused of blasphemy, "thou, being a man, makest thyself God", since Jesus had said to them, "I and my Father are one" & in previous verses. Jesus then goes on to explain that the 'Elohim' of Psalm 82:6, which corresponds to the 'theos' of John 10:34, should actually not be a problem to them as we're all 'gods' in this general meaning of the word, 'Elohim' - we are NOT part of the Deity & NEVER will be, nor of the angelic realm, but certainly of men, rulers & judges (as those so appointed).

    The Lord then continues His discourse with the Jews, questioning them, 'that if He is sanctified & sent by God, doing the Works of God, why shouldn't His claim to be the Son of God bother them?' Since we all come under the general word 'theos', if One coming, does the Works of God & brings the Word of God, should He not be rightfully (& more correctly) be called the Son of God? Is Jesus side-stepping the revelation of His actual position as God in the flesh? I see Jesus answering the Jews according to the charge they were laying against Him, that His claim 'making Himself God', was no different to any other claim to it by others. But if their eyes would one day be opened, they would realize that before them was no generic 'Elohim/Theos', but Theos Himself. They were far from reaching that position of understanding, not even understanding Psalm 82:6 & meaning of Elohim.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Hey Scott,

    Passover is on the 14th of Nisan; it is a preparation day for the feast of unleavened bread, which is the 15th through the 21st. The first day of this feast is a holy convocation (Sabbath) the only work you can do is to eat. Jesus was crucified on Passover day and died around 3 PM. They had to get Him in the tomb before sundown which would be the first day of the feast a Sabbath day.

    Many choose Wednesday for that day but if Jesus was crucified on Wednesday and put in the tomb before sundown, the first day of the feast would be on Thursday a Sabbath day. That would leave Friday a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath on Saturday. The Mary's and all the disciples could have gone to the tomb on Friday with the spices and anoint Jesus' body because there were no restrictions on Friday.

    If the day Jesus was crucified was Thursday, Friday would be the first day of the feast, a Sabbath as S Spencer said a high day, and Saturday was the weekly Sabbath. Two Sabbaths in a row puts Sunday which starts sundown Saturday the first chance they could go to the tomb.

    The crucifixion on Thursday gives three days and three nights. Thursday/ Day, Friday/Night and Day, Saturday/Night and Day, Sunday/Night, Jesus resurrected before sunrise on Feast of Firstfruits which He was the First Fruits of those who slept.

    What is kind of confusing the Passover lambs are killed on the 14th Passover day and are eaten the night of the 15th the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread?

    ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Exodus 12:29-33) ( Leviticus 23:5) ( Numbers 33:1-3) ( Deuteronomy 16:1-8)

    Oh, by the way, the word even, is anytime afternoon when the sun starts going down until sundown which starts a new day.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Ronald L Whittemore - in Reply
    Carry Lennert,

    I'm not sure what you are working on, this is not to cause debate, I hope you don't mind if I may give some information that may help you on your search. You say they did not know at sundown and that is when Joseph took His body. Jesus was crucified on the Passover day, 14 th of Nisan, which was a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread 15 th - 21 st, which the first day is a holy convocation. That is a sabbath day that the only work you could do is to prepare food to eat. There were two Sabbaths, Friday and Saturday John called it a high day ( John 19:31). ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Leviticus 23:5-7), ( Numbers 33:1-3)

    They had to get Jesus down and in the tomb, before the sun went down, when the sun goes down it starts the next day, the 15 th that started the feast of Unleavened Bread the night they ate the Passover which the first day is a Sabbath. ( Matthew 27:46-50) ( Mark 15:34-37) ( Luke 23:52-56) ( John 19:30-31). The ninth hour is 3 to 4 PM, The preparation and Sabbath they are talking about, the 14 th Passover day, the 15 th, the first day of the feast that will start at sundown.

    It may seem a long time from 3 PM to 7 PM but look at what happened after Jesus gave up the ghost, people went to Pilate to partition that the bodies be taken down. He sent the soldiers to go and break their legs at would take a while before they would die. The reason they broke their legs was they could not push up with their legs so they could breathe, so they die of asphyxia.

    After that Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate asking for Jesus' body, Nicodemus, a Pharisee that first met Jesus at night not wanting to be seen, brought the spices for the burial. When Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate he did not believe Jesus was dead already, he even sent for the centurion to verify Jesus had died that quickly. You would think 6 hours would be long enough. ( Mark 15:44-45).

    I hope this little amount of information will help, 2000 characters are short.

    RLW
  • Reggie Hursh - in Reply
    Larry,

    This prophetic story continues and eventually comes full circle:

    ( Isaiah 14:2) And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

    What group of people did the house of Israel (Ephraim & Manasseh) take as their captives, whose captives they once were for four hundred thirty years? ( Exodus 12:41) Who are the descendants of Egypt that were held slaves when England & America gained prominence?
  • Philip Christian Parks on Galatians 5
    Of the "leaven"; Gal. 5:9 = Scriptures always typify leaven as sin and evil, and all that GOD hates and forbids (cp. Exo. 34:25).

    A "little" leaven will spread throughout the substance until it pollutes the whole. This principle is proven by the rule of "first mention" as recorded in Exodus 12:15 and 19 as GOD declared regarding the Passover Meal: "Seven days shall you eat unleavened bread; even the first day you shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eats leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off {eliminated; destroyed; killed} from Israel."

    Leaven typifies ...

    + evil and forbidden religious traditions and practices which pervert the true Religion ( Lev. 2:11; Amos 4:5-5; Mt. 13:33; Lu. 13:21);

    + evil doctrinal errors which pervert the True Gospel ( Mt. 16:6-12; Gal. 5:9);

    + blatant sinful character ( Mk. 8:15);

    + hypocrisy (Lu. 12:1);

    + pride and boasting ( 1Cor. 5:6);

    + fornication and the fornicator ( 1Cor. 5:7); and

    + malice and wickedness ( 1Cor. 5:8).
  • Juliana JooSabba - in Reply on Luke 14
    About this longevity, About Moses. Typological errors in the bible or could be from SATAN WHO BENT HIS LIFE TO CONFUSE THE CHILDREN OF GOD OR THE WORK OF THE

    Type setters or type writers made of iron and have no life in themselves, so they can make mistakes.

    The original scripts were Holy Spirit guided by d writers who were Holy Spirit filled then.

    I show u one example from the Bible and work it out itself

    Moses and d Israelites

    God told Abraham

    Genesis 15.13

    13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years

    Moses appeared before Pharaoh at 80 years old

    King James Bible

    And Moses was fourscore years old, and Aaron fourscore and three years old, when they spoke to Pharaoh

    In Exodus 12:40 we read: The dwellings of the children of Israel that they dwelt in Egypt were 430 years. Verse 41 reiterates that after 430 years all the legions of God left Egypt. The verse seems to be stating a non-debatable historical fact. That is, that the Children of Israel were in Egypt for 430 years before their Exodus.

    (Q) 7 Moses was a hundred and twenty years old(R) when he died, yet his eyes were not weak(S) nor his strength gone.(T) 8 The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab(U) thirty days,(V) until the time of weeping and mourning(W) was over.

    Work it out ur self

    If the Israeli completed 400 years according to God in Genesis 15.13

    Then they spent another 30 years for whatever it was. Which Moses spent with them after God sent him to pharaoh and he was 80 years old when he appeared before Pharaoh, died at 120 years, how can this be right except for typography error. I didn't know this but d Holy Spirit highlighted it to me. There r many of these errors in d bible, it only takes d Holy Spirit to point it out to u when u need them.

    Work of the Holy Spirit to remind us what has past, present and future John chapter 16.
  • Earl Bowman on Exodus 12
    GOD'S PASSOVER

    May the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Exodus 12:1-51 God would deliver his people out of Egypt with one last plague (Death). The people were told to kill a lamb and cover their house with it's blood. Death would passover the houses covered with the blood of the lamb.

    God's word says that the old was a shadow of the new (true). Therefore, Christ's (the true lamb) blood will cover his house (whose house we are, ( Hebrews 3:6). DEATH WILL PASSOVER

    1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

    1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave where is thy victory?

    Christ is our PASSOVER from death to LIFE.
  • S Spencer Hid in Christ No judgment for Believers - in Reply on 1 Peter 4
    Colossians 3:1-4. If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

    Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

    FOR YE ARE DEAD, AND YOUR LIFE IS "HID" WITH CHRIST IN GOD.

    When Christ, who is our life, shall appear,

    THEN SHALL YE ALSO APPEAR WITH HIM IN GLORY. "Absent of the body present with the Lord"

    CHRIST WAS JUDGED FOR OUR SINS NOT HIS!! AND HE ROSE AGAIN FOR OUR JUSTIFICATION!!

    You see in the old testament in the book of Exodus, you see the blood of the lamb as an atonement to hide them from judgment.

    Exodus 12:11-13. And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the "LORD'S PASSOVER."

    For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute "JUDGMENT": I am the LORD.

    And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

    Christ is our passover, Jews/Gentiles =Church.

    John 1:29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

    Believers works what they have done will be tried with fire but not for salvation.

    1 Corinthians 3:13-15 (KJV) Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

    If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: "BUT HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire.

    Romans 8:1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
  • Chris - in Reply on Judges 7
    Exodus 12:42: "It is a night to be much observed unto the LORD for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations."

    This night of the LORD passing over (or, passing by) the children of Israel who had the blood of the lamb applied on the lintels & doorposts of their houses in Egypt, & not destroying their firstborn, was to be perennially remembered by them. So, it was a time for celebration of their freedom from their bondage to the Egyptians & is celebrated as an eight-day festival in the early Spring, from the 15th through to the 22nd of the Hebrew month of Nissan, or, in this year, March 27 - April 4, 2021.

    Nowadays, for the Jew who turns to Christ for salvation, & also for the Gentile who believes, our Passover Lamb is Christ Jesus ( 1 Corinthians 5:7). His Blood was shed for us so we should not have our blood spilt. His Blood was applied to our hearts by God so that it is God in His great Love that has done the work of Salvation for us & not of ourselves. Whenever the LORD passes by our hearts, he sees the Blood of His Son, His Sacrifice, applied, so that we will never be condemned for our sin, with the World. And we no longer have to wait for the month of Nissan to celebrate this merciful Act of God for us, but we can do it any day, every day, whenever we meet together as believers around the Lord's Table to remember our special day (when the Lord's Spirit met us, saved us, & brought us into God's fold).
  • Markcus Burch - in Reply on Acts 12
    Acts 12:4 The KJV is awesome at distinguishing between things. Easter was the pagan holiday that Herod observed (Herod build many pagan cities) and Passover was observed by God fearing Jews ( Exodus 12).
  • Jackie Bolin - in Reply on Matthew 26
    In Genesis 22 :7-8 Isaac askAbraham his father where is the lamb Abraham said my son God will provide HIMSELF A lamb

    IN Exodus 12 God gives the times and the orders of the passover lamb (Jesus)

    Look at Exodus 12 :2 God starts time over to the beginning this is prophecy if you will perceive it

    My interpretation is God StartsTime over here so we would know that when the true final passover lamb Jesus comes Time will start over and it did

    And look at the Fulfillment of God will provide HIMSELF a Lamb

    John chapter 1 verse 29 Behold the lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world God Brings is on lamb Jesus in to his own house 2chronicles 3:1 on the 10th day of Nissan And Inspected Him ( Luke 6:7)Till the 14th day and judged Him ( John 18:28)by the law and by the religion of the day And Pilate said I FIND NO FAULT IN THE MAN NO BLEMISH NO SIN Luke 23:1-3

    And it is still the 14th Till 6 o'clock

    And crucified Him Outside of God's house the city Jerusalem at evening 3 clock Exodus 12:6

    Matthew 27:37 And set up over His Head His accusation written THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS (God's Name Tag on His LAMB) And ROSE UP 3 days later on the 17th day

    Hebrews 9:12 Took His Own BLOOD and Entered in ONCE into The HOLY PLACE (THE THRONE OF GOD) having OBTAINED ETERNAL REDEMPTION for us

    John 14:29 (Jesus said) And now I have told you BEFORE IT COMES to pass that WHEN IT IS COME TO PASS YE MIGHT BELIEVE

    This may or may not help you it is a point of view that you may have already Studied

    May God bless you and your family always

    JACKIE
  • Medical Explanation of Jesus39s Death - in Reply on 1 John 5
    John 19:31-34

    The bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath the Jews asked Pilate that the legs might be broken and that they might be taken away. The soldiers came and broke the legs of the 1st and 3rd prisoners. Jesus was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, there came out blood and water." Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side??

    Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.

    The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.

    In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.

    This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.

    Prophesies: Exodus 12:46. Zechariah 12:10.
  • Chris - in Reply on Exodus 12:29
    You're almost correct in your understanding of these verses.

    Exodus 10:28: "And Pharaoh said unto him, Get thee from me, take heed to thyself, see my face no more; for in that day thou seest my face thou shalt die." Examining this verse, it appears that Pharaoh is commanding Moses not to appear before him anymore & Moses replies (v29) that he (Moses) will no longer come to Pharaoh.

    But in Exodus 12:31: "And he (Pharaoh) called for Moses and Aaron by night, and said, Rise up, and get you forth from among my people, both ye and the children of Israel; and go, serve the LORD, as ye have said." So here, Moses abides by Pharaoh's command to not come before him, but now after this final assault on the Egyptians, it was Pharaoh that called for Moses (& Aaron). So there is no conflict in these verses/directions from Pharaoh: first, he told Moses not to come to him, but did not make it clear that he (Pharaoh) could still summon for Moses to come to him when ordered to do so.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on John 19:31
    It was a Sabbath being Passover celebration. I heard it explained as a double Sabbath being Passover falling into a weekend.

    Exodus 12:1-17

    Mathew 26:2

    Mark 14:1

    Luke 22:1

    Hope that helps.
  • The Medical Explanation Of Jesus39s Death - in Reply on John 3:16
    John 19:31-34 So the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath the Jews asked Pilate that the legs might be broken and that they might be taken away. The soldiers came and broke the legs of the 1st and 3rd prisoners. Jesus was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, there came out blood and water." Why did blood and water come out of Jesus' side??

    Crucifixion typically resulted in death through one of two ways: The first was HYPOVOLEMIC shock. The prolonged rapid heartbeat resulting from hypovolemic shock can cause fluid to gather in the area around the heart. This is called pericardial effusion.

    The second way death occurred during crucifixion was due to asphyxiation. The person is unable to breathe in enough oxygen to survive. Crucifixion victims had to pull their weight up with their hands or wrists that were nailed; along with pushing up with the feet or ankles that had another nail through them. Over time, the ability to push up to breathe would end and oxygen flow would be restricted. *This asphyxiation can also result in the buildup of fluid around the heart.

    In either case, the account of John is quite accurate. The Romans saw that the other two crucifixion victims were still alive and broke their legs so they would no longer be able to push themselves up to breathe, resulting in death within minutes. Jesus, they saw He had become unconscious and likely was already dead. To confirm, a spear was shoved into His side, likely under His ribs, that ruptured the PERICARDIAL sack, resulting in a flow of both blood and water.

    This manner of death was a brutal end for Jesus, there was also prophetic significance to this event. John states in John 19:36-37, "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken. And again another Scripture says, They will look on him whom they have pierced.

    Prophesies: Exodus 12:46. Zechariah 12:10.

    Mishael
  • Jesse - in Reply on Psalms 91:7
    Teresa,

    I just did a cross-reference search for Psalm 91:7 and it does not cross-reference to any place in Matthew. It does list these places in scripture: Psalm 32:6, Joshua 14:10, Exodus 12:12-13, Numbers 14:37-38, Genesis 7:23.

    Another way to find out would be to search a bible concordance for a particular word used in Psalm 91:7, such as the word "thousand" to find out everyplace that word appears in Matthew to see if it matches Psalm 91:7. Just know that it may take a little longer that way.
  • Chris - in Reply on Matthew 5
    Page 1.

    Ruth, as Mishael has stated, you need to spend much time in God's Word allowing the Spirit to teach you & convince you about its Truths. A good Bible-believing Church is also very important so that you are fed the meat of the Word, which only can satisfy. You may have in the past switched over to attending the RC Church because of your friends; even in this matter one needs a solid stand, as compromise, even for friends' sake, means that you are dabbling with unbiblical matters.

    To provide an adequate & meaningful defence to your RC friends about the Eucharist will be difficult as RCs are brought up rigidly in their faith, living with the fear that any departure from it or questioning its beliefs will mean rejection by God. So, if a religion preaches that the way of salvation & the way to God can only be through the Church, you know immediately there is grave error. So, for RCs, their salvation & their Christianity exists purely because of their connection to the Church; so attending Mass, Confession, partaking of the Eucharist, worship/prayer to Mary, self-effort to assist payment for sins, purgatory, etc. are all teachings foreign to the Bible & taught by RCs so as to keep a tight hold on them.

    Luke 22:14-20 shows us what happened in the Upper Room at Passover time. In remembrance of Jesus' forthcoming death, He ate this Last Supper with them. As in the Jewish Passover, a meal was eaten in remembrance of when the LORD 'passed over' the children of Israel when He saw the Lamb's blood smeared on their doorposts but those that didn't have it there (i.e. the Egyptians) had all their firstborn killed ( Exodus 12). So Jesus & His disciples remembered that time of Israel's escape from God's Wrath & Egypt's bondage but also looked forward to the sacrificing of the Passover Lamb (i.e. Jesus on the Cross), when the blood shed would be applied to our hearts assuring us of God forgiving our sins & our acceptance by Him, thereby not condemning us to death & Hell.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 1
    My apologies for giving you Exodus 12:4. I meant to give Exodus Chapter 12 Verse 46, not Verse 4. Exodus 12:46 talks about the Passover Lamb, that they were not to break the bones of the Lamb, even after they kill it, the foreshadowing of the fulfillment of prophecy that when Messiah comes, the Lamb of God, to die for the sins of the world, that there was a prophecy about Him that not a bone would be broken.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 1
    He died on a Friday, sometime shortly after 3 PM in the afternoon. The Sabbath day was on a Saturday, and no one could be hanging on a cross on the Sabbath day according to Jewish Law. On the day of preparation, which would have been Friday, Jesus and two others were crucified. They had to be dead before sundown because at 6 PM, that was the end of the workday for the Jews, and they couldn't still be hanging there on Saturday, the Sabbath Day. It says it was about the ninth hour, or 3 PM when Jesus' Spirit left Him. They came by to break the legs of the other two, but when they came to Jesus to break His legs, He was already dead, so they did not break His legs. That in itself was the fulfillment of Psalm 34:20, and Exodus 12:4.
  • Johnny Luces on Exodus 12:17
    After 66 years I have come to the awareness of this command. I am not Jewish but I want to follow God commandments as instructed on Exodus 12:17 of the unleavened bread. I have eaten leavened bread this morning and I feel I have already violated the first thing God almighty instructed for me to do. What to do now? After 66 years and knowledge has passed me.. Lord please be merciful on my soul.
  • Fred Scanlan on Psalms 1
    Fred e Scanlan on Matthew 6
    Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Exodus 12
    When you confess Him and you receive his body and blood in faith, your sins are washed away and you are a born again child of God! We In fact are redeemed from sin and death, Christ having become our sacrifice, while fulfilling all righteousness .Our atonement for sin,our "Passover lamb". You need only to believe. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Behold I stand at the door and knock. Open your heart and let him abide. Trust in Him and lean not unto your own understanding! All your ways acknowledge HIM! Salvation is yours, and fades not away, it is kept for you! These promises of salvation are sealed,with
  • Fred e Scanlan on Matthew 6
    Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Exodus 12
    When you confess Him and you receive his body and blood in faith, your sins are washed away and you are a born again child of God! We In fact are redeemed from sin and death, Christ having become our sacrifice, while fulfilling all righteousness .Our atonement for sin,our "Passover lamb". You need only to believe. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Behold I stand at the door and knock. Open your heart and let him abide. Trust in Him and lean not unto your own understanding! All your ways acknowledge HIM! Salvation is yours, and fades not away, it is kept for you! These promises of salvation are sealed,with his BLOOD! Receive HIM today


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