Discuss Ecclesiastes 1

  • Richard H Priday - 2 weeks ago
    Cross references in scripture (Part 2).

    In the study of Creation there appear to be at least 2 different accounts in Genesis but they are emphasizing different things and hence complement one another ( Genesis 1 and 2). There are many Psalms related to Creation as well. We also see in Jesus quoting almost every book including reference to the Creation ( Matthew 19:8 on divorce); as well as the literal story of Jonah as to how it relates to the Son of Man ( Matthew 12:40). These accounts show the truth of the Old Testament and aren't able to hold water to arguments that things were merely symbolic.

    One could argue as an atheist that since the same things seem to happen over and over again in scripture they can't be true; and/or they are borrowed from pagan traditions. Ecclesiastes 1:9 says that there is "nothing new under the sun." If we study things like prophecy there are more often than not multiple fulfillments; we can look at the earlier example of the Temple and abomination therein and see not just Antiochus but also the siege of Rome in 70 AD and to a lesser extent around 130 AD and the final application for Antichrist himself yet to come. The same pattern exists with Psalm 22 and descriptions foreshadowing Christ and demonstrating David's situation; some seem mutually exclusive others overlapping. Jesus was frequently hounded and persecuted much as David was; the difference being He was sinless; David was not. The whole story of the death; burial and Resurrection is seen with the pagan legends and religions as well but if we believe Satan is real he always is coming as a substitute for or against the God of the Bible; as we see in the persona of the Antichrist Beast and world economic and religious system. Satan knows scripture well enough to quote it; and we wouldn't expect anything less from the enemy of God's people.

    We can see in the miracles of Christ similar things to the ministry of Elijah. Healing of the blind is unique ( John 9:32-33
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Oseas:

    Time doesn't exist in God's realm, no beginning and no end.

    One day is as a thousand years, that is symbolic, one day could also be as a million years.

    It's just ONE DAY, TODAY.

    Christ was resurrected and it became TODAY; the day of salvation, then, in our time frame, tomorrow, AGAIN, became TODAY the day of SALVATION, over and over for the last 2000 years, It's ALWAYS, TODAY the day of salvation, no beginning and no end.

    Ephesians 3:21 ...... through out all AGES ......WORLD WITHOUT END ......

    Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, is that which SHALL BE; and that which is done is that which SHALL BE DONE, there is NO NEW THING under the sun.

    Hebrews 4:3 For we which have BELIEVED do enter in to REST (the Sabbath) .....the WORKS were FINISHED from the foundation of the world.

    TODAY, the DAY of SALVATION, world without end.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    Major things to think about prior to His return

    National soverignty vs one world government

    In my last post; I explained briefly how there is a divide between Eastern and Western nations and their alliances. As to an opinion on the matter; it is easy to be myopic and insist that our country can do no wrong or the opposite as seems politically expedient today; we excoriate all those who until recent years were heralded as honorable forefathers of our nation. This same mindset can skew the big picture; those of the old school think of Russia today as communist when it is in reality a nationalist mindset and has supported the church by and large. In all due respect it is heavily skewed toward the Eastern or Russian Orthodox; and very recently has started showing blowback and persecution to those in the church that do not support the political agenda.

    Those we consider "enemies" used to be friends; case in point Russia who was our ally during World War Two (albeit we basically gave them much of Eastern Europe at the end of the war when allowing them to be the first to invade German territory). Japan has gone from being part of the "Axis of Evil" to our best ally in the last 50 years or so. Afghanistan was our ally as well; and we even supported Bin Laden (I believe he was on Newsweek as man of the year or something to that affect; much like Hitler was in the 1930's. Many of us are naive as to history; so of course it repeats itself (or as Ecclesiastes 1:9 says there is nothing new under the sun). Of course there are allies (take India for example) where persecution of Christians is some of the worst in the world; in this case by Hindus; not the Muslims who also are persecuting believers with our allies such as Saudi Arabia; Turkey and many other nations.

    In these issues; we need to be careful to honor covenant agreements in the past with sovereign nations and their boundaries. The desire to eliminate ancient boundaries is dangerous ( Prov. 22:28)
  • Nomatter7326 - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Greetings Scotty, Romans 1:16 is Paul announcing he is ready to proclaim what Jesus wanted Paul to relay to us.

    At that time is "the transition" to include all us gentiles = of all nations was in play.

    Romans = doctrine

    As Paul progresses in order in his gospels with doctrine Reproof & correction mixed in..

    Note: We are truly justified in Romans 3:24-26 equals Gods free gift!

    (Please also note Ro. Chapters 9/10/11 where Paul is speaking to his brethren/ Israelites/ at that present time beseeching them & only them to perform Ro. 10:9 as we know praying is a work & how the Jews at that present time in their life THEY would be accepted by The Lord. Some of that (rightly dividing of course) is for both!

    Scotty as you read God inserts into the reader his understanding bc God knows who is serious & who is not. God knows the beginning to the end and the end to the beginning!

    Knowing that God is a God of order & the simplicity in Christ Jesus!

    Jesus tells us to follow Apostle Paul & His "establishment commandment." Romans 16:26 Thus, we read daily starting in Romans & when we are done for that day take a tassel & mark that ( where we will begin to read the next day) & do our daily business

    Later, we read again in Genesis & when done tassel that page. So, each day we continue this (and will read Ro to Rev.) many times more as we progress through the scriptures of the prophets

    Then when we completed Acts, "Proclaiming God wins and the devil loses"! Restarting the same process again

    That's Gods Establishment Commandment!

    Also, Romans through Revelation guides us in what's going on these days. Example Romans 1:27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    Thus read Ecclesiastes 1:9
  • Richard H Priday - 10 months ago
    Heaven Part 5

    There are details about the heavenly city appearing on earth such as in Psalm 48. This shows the fear of the kings of the earth; and would represent a Millennium event. In earlier posts I have discussed how we will rule much like David under Christ who will be the supreme authority during the 1000 year reign. There are other verses about the earth and its peoples which could encompass promises of either the Millennium or eternal Kingdom.

    I have said before that the eternal nature of the earth seems to be proven by several verses and I had thought that was true about the sun and moon but Psalm 72 seems to indicate otherwise. It would seem to show the end of it at the end of the Millennium; no doubt part of the catastrophic destruction at the time. Ecclesiastes 1:4 and several other verses seem to indicate that the earth in some form remains forever. As to exactly how the new universe will be; or if anything exists other than heaven and a new earth is rather mysterious; however. It is very frightening to think of the lake of fire as being what happens when the elements (or atoms) are dissolved in 2 Peter 3:10; perhaps the lost are in an eternal body that is reduced to some strange broken down elemental state. Revelation 22:15 seems to indicate they are just outside the gate. Somehow it would seem that they are infinitely far away from the saints at that time; however as there will be no more crying on our part as Revelation 21:4 shows.

    These changes no doubt will cause the sea to vaporize; hence no more sea ( Rev. 21:1). All in the sea will die in the Tribulation anyway (except that brought to life in the Dead Sea); see Revelation 16:3; and Ezekiel 47:10 with surrounding verses on that context. Again in heaven we shall behold Him and see His marks as Thomas did; the prophecy in Genesis 3:15 had eternal ramifications. We ever shall be reminded of what He did for us.
  • Free - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you Lord God Father in heaven. You who look to us needy here on this created earth. Hallelujah praised being God for He is good. Overwhelming and endless love flows through my heart in gratitude. For He hears the one who has a broken heart. Know He's dragging you where He wants you to go. Amen hallelujah. Now is it Great joy among the angels of God hallelujah amen.

    Stay close to Him in His word.

    Ill read something now in the end of the day.

    Ecclesiastes 1:7-11

    God have blessed u to a gift that never will leave u, Love u in Christ forever and ever.

    Never lose hope, He hold your hand.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
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    2. A second crucial rule of biblical hermeneutics is that passages must be interpreted historically, grammatically, and contextually. Interpreting a passage historically means we must first seek to understand the culture, background, and situation that prompted the writing. For example, in order to understand Jonah's flight, in Jonah 1:1-3, we should learn of the history of the Assyrians as it related to Israel.

    Interpreting a passage grammatically requires one to follow the rules of grammar and recognize the nuances of Hebrew and Greek. For example, when Paul writes of "the great God and Saviour Jesus Christ" in Titus 2:13, the rules of grammar state that God and Savior are parallel terms and they are both in apposition to Jesus Christ; in other words, Paul clearly calls Jesus "our great God" & not identifying the two Persons separately in the Deity. Interpreting a passage contextually involves considering the context of a verse or passage when trying to determine the meaning. The context includes the verses immediately preceding and following it, the chapter, the book, and indeed the entire Bible. For example, many puzzling statements in Ecclesiastes become clearer when kept in context; the book of Ecclesiastes is written from the earthly perspective 'under the sun' ( Ecclesiastes 1:3). In fact, the phrase 'under the sun' is repeated many times in this book, establishing the context for all that is "vanity" in this world.

    3. A third rule of biblical hermeneutics is that Scripture is always the best interpreter of Scripture (& this you believe & stated clearly). For this reason, we always compare Scripture with Scripture when trying to determine the meaning of a passage. For example, Isaiah's condemnation of Judah's desire to seek Egypt's help and their reliance on a strong cavalry ( Isaiah 31:1) was motivated, in part, by God's explicit command that His people not go to Egypt to seek horses ( Deuteronomy 17:16).
  • Gregory Scruggs on Ecclesiastes 1 - 1 year ago
    I have God's word. It is the King James addition. I believe every word.
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Brother Alex:

    Everyone gets the same wage: immortality; Christ ONLY hath immortality ( 1 Timothy 6:16), the firstfruits in this age, all others in the next age, the feast of the ingathering, feast of the TENTS or tabernacles.

    Zechariah 12:7 And I will save the TENTS of Judah FIRST ---- firstfruits -----there are TWO harvest, firstfruits then the ingathering.

    Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be, and that which is done shall be done, there is no new thing under the sun.

    God Bless YOU!
  • T Levis - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Generation as described biblically: Please read = Genesis 7:1, Ecclesiastes 1:4, Lamentations 5:19, Daniel 4:3, Matthew 1,

    In comparison to your example of Noah- Exodus 20:1-5, Exodus 34:7, Numbers 14:18, Deuteronomy 2:14, Judges 2:10, 2Kings 10:30, 2Kings 15:12, Hebrews 3, Luke 1:50, Psalms 102:18, John 17,

    Prophetic about Jesus & other generations- Proverbs 30:12,13,14, Isaiah 53:8, Matthew 11,

    Psalms 12:6-7, Psalms 14,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Gerald - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 1 - 1 year ago
    Does it matter?

    What we need to know is how man was created .
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Part 4 Cross references and applications.

    The application of scripture is also in regard to say various ordinances in the O.T. case specific for the nation of Israel at that time; and that in regard to the ceremonial cleanness and rules and regulations for animal sacrifices which were only a temporary fix for the sin issue which ultimately pointed to the cross at Calvary. The 10 commandments on the other hand have universal applications with the exception of the day of worship which I feel Matthew 12:8 covers. The concept of marriage; for instance is fairly universal and hence as we see with the case of John the Baptist confronting Herod ( Luke 3:19) or God causing plagues on the ruler of Egypt ( Genesis 12:17) we see that even pagans were held to a certain standard of the law. We may see this also in the case of Judges 1:7 where even a pagan realized that what was done to others now was being done to him. This takes some wisdom as well; as we are supposed to if at all possible to remain peaceable upon all men and to respect authority. (see Romans 12:18).

    We should certainly take things literally that are repeated in scripture such as verses in Deuteronomy on the giants; since other scriptures elaborate on the subject (such as 1 Samuel 17). Same concept for the demons mentioned in Revelation; for example. This has an eschatological ramification as well; for scripture makes it clear that there is nothing new under the sun. ( Ecclesiastes 1:9). We can make all sorts of inferences when we see the descriptions in scripture of those who are said to be affected by demons (i.e. psychological analysis) but we shouldn't do violence to clear meanings because of a myopic viewpoint (as I stated before).

    Another possible error is if a more recent archaeological site makes a previous interpretation archaic as to the time frame when or where a certain event or place with the same or similar name occurred.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Julie,

    We are not told in Scripture how angels were created. But all other beings except for man were spoken into existence. So either angels were spoken into existence or formed like man, only of spiritual essence rather than from earthly elements as man was formed.
  • Julie Yancey on Ecclesiastes 1 - 1 year ago
    How were the Angels made ?
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Duncan:

    All the things in Matthew 24 have been taking place since Christ, in the flesh, departed this earth and 45 days latter came the second time as the Holy Ghost.

    Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that has been, it is that which shall be, and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

    The last days have been since Christ, still going 2000 years latter: and the LAST DAYS will continue till all things have been put under his feet.

    Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these LAST DAYS spoken to us by his Son ...

    Genesis 49:1 .....that I may tell you what shall befall you in the LAST DAYS.

    Micah 4:1 But in the LAST DAYS it shall come to pass, (this was fulfilled at Christ's resurrection) that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills, and people shall flow into it.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued to him, then shall the Son also himself be subject to him who put all things under him, that GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

    1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end (to Jacob's troubles), when he shall have DELIVERED UP THE KINGDOM TO GOD, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule, and all authority and power.

    God Bless You!
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Brenda. In Ecclesiastes 1:1, the preacher is clearly Solomon, King David's son, & king in Jerusalem. No one else could fit that description. The word, 'preacher' is used here, but in Hebrew, it comes out as a 'teacher, a convener of people'. And so he was: not only a king but also one who taught the people, as is written about him in 1 Kings 4:29-34 & 1 Kings 10:23,24.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 1 year ago
    Romans 5,

    Here are scriptures for experience: Genesis 30:27, Ecclesiastes 1:16,

    Teacher/ teach; Psalms 25:4,5,9,12, Psalms 32:8, Psalms 94:12, Proverbs 9, 1John 2:27, John 14:26, Proverbs 22:6,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 1 year ago
    Matthew 24,

    North, South East & West, examples: Ezekiel 37:9, Revelation 7:1, Job 37:9,

    East Wind; Genesis 41:6,23,27, Exodus 10:13, Exodus 14:21, Psalms 48:7, Isaiah 27:8, Jeremiah 18:17, Ezekiel 17:10, Ezekiel 19:12, Hosea 13:15,

    West Wind; Exodus 10:19,

    North Wind; Proverbs 25:23,

    South Wind, Job 37:17, Luke 12:55, Acts 27:13,

    Psalms 78:26, Ecclesiastes 1:6, Jeremiah 10:13, Jeremiah 51:16, Amos 4:13,

    Interestingly in Michigan the Northern winds blow, it feels like bitter coldness inside, freezing your nose inside like icicles, even through your clothing layers. In Southern California when the " Santa Ana winds" dry & hot, dusty, both very district & unpleasant. The winds that blow East from the Pacific Ocean even summertime bring cool, unpleasant chills as early evening approaches. Etc. (In some personal observation of distinct winds.)

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Free - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 1 - 1 year ago
    Dear "JOURNEE!" i will very gladly serve you with an answer. But do not understand correctly. Can't see it from Ecclesiastes 1 either. Can you try and word yourself a little differently please. God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ. Luke 6:17-19
  • JOURNEE! on Ecclesiastes 1 - 1 year ago
    can you have it wear it's a kid versend (sorry for bad spelling)
  • ELB - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Beatrice;

    Ecclesiastes 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answers all things.

    Money seems to answer all problems of the flesh, but:

    Ecclesiastes 1:2 .....all is vanity.

    Where does money leave you concerning eternity?

    God Bless you!
  • Free - In Reply on Job 4 - 2 years ago
    Beloved "Richard H Priday", everything is just emptiness without the Holy Spirit. For without Jesus we dig and run in all directions and do not know where we end up.

    Ecclesiastes 1:1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.

    2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.

    3 What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?

    4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

    5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

    Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

    20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    Be blessed in Jesus' Holy Name i love you in Christ. 1 Corintihans 15
  • Food for Thought? - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 1 - 2 years ago
    If this is "food for thought," I think I'm feeling a slight case of food poisoning!
  • Nikki on Ecclesiastes 1 - 2 years ago
    From researching history and other events, I believe that this talks about a loop, or loops. History repeats itself. Time starts off at the beginning of an age or two. The same theme plays out, and then it ends, only to begin all over again with new people.

    For example, during Noah's day, Atlantis was destroyed. During this age, New Atlantis (USA) will be destroyed.

    During Paul's time, the apocalypse happened. It's happening again during our time with the same sequence in Revelation.

    Food for thought.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I 1st thought of the scripture Adam & Spencer Shaw gave you. Then I prayed I might understand what you're looking for.

    Hebrews 10:26-39

    I searched under wisdom & found these. Hopefully these are helpful in what you're looking for: I added a few additional.

    Matthew 12:41-42, Luke 11:31-32, Luke 11:52, Ecclesiastes 10:1, James 3:13-18,

    Ecclesiastes 1:18, Proverbs 17:16,

    Job 11:6-7, Job 26:1-4, Job 28:28,

    Psalms 37:27-31, Psalms 111:10, Proverbs 10,

    Most verses on wisdom are how good & pleasant it is: Proverbs 19:8, Proverbs 23:4, Ecclesiastes 7:12,
  • Manuel Kituxe on Ecclesiastes 1 - 2 years ago
    Where is Ecclesiaticus 4:19-27...
  • GiGi - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 1 - 2 years ago
    Thanks Chris, well said.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 1 - 2 years ago
    Amen and Amen Brother Chris!
  • David - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 1 - 2 years ago
    Good Morning Manasseh An interesting thing about Ecclesiastes after everything that is stated about all

    Solomon knew and understood in verse 13 of Chapter 12 he ends with Let us hear the conclusion of the

    whole matter Fear or respect God and keep his commandments for this is the whole duty of man. Which

    Hosea 4:6 if you don't have the knowledge God or disregard it you will be eventually useless.
  • Chris - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 1 - 2 years ago
    Hello Manasseh. We welcome all comments centred around God's Word & your question is a very good one.

    When we look at both those references you gave, we could see contradictions (as you see also), but then a clearer understanding of them will give us more light. In Ecclesiastes 1:17,18, the author, Solomon, states that he was committed to gaining more wisdom. As a king, this was a very noble thing to desire so that he might rule well & give correct judgements for his people. But in his quest to acquire much wisdom which included learning & understanding what causes men to live foolishly & make wrong decisions in life, he found that his spirit was getting increasingly troubled. So he says, 'in getting wisdom & knowledge comes much sorrow'. Not that there was anything wrong with having more knowledge, but by understanding it better, the sorrows & inconsistencies of life, become more apparent & troubling. So, we have this oft quoted saying, 'ignorance is bliss'. Though not really true, but what it's saying is that 'if you don't know much about life, of people, & life's intricate threads, the less you will burden your mind & heart & fewer will be your pain & sorrows'.

    Then in Hosea 4:6, we read, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." If we go back to verse 1, we read this indictment by God against Israel, "there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land." The people were disregarding God, indulging in sins & forgetting His directives to them about their behaviour one towards another. So here, God's people ought to be regarding the Laws He gave them & to show love & respect to one another, but they had forsaken God & His Word to direct them. When that happens, when God's people, then & now, refuse to obey God (i.e. refusing to receive knowledge of what He wants for them), then they will suffer isolation from God. In those days, God's Hand was heavy upon them, today, we will suffer spiritual poverty & feel that God is far from us. Blessings.


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