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  • Luke - In Reply - 1 year ago
    You did mean in the flesh, right? One cannot be forgiven of murder (in the flesh).

    It's not the unforgivable sin, but God say's have the next of kin put them to death in, Deuteronomy 19:11-12
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Romans 12:19,

    Genesis 34, Levi & Simeon took vengeance, then were cursed by their father Jacob "Israel", Genesis 49:5-7,

    2Samuel 13, Absalom took vengeance for his sister, was away from his father & home several years, I counted 5 yrs, 3 in exile 2 more not allowed to see his father's face. 2Samuel 14:24,28,

    2Kings 24:4, Proverbs 6:16,17, Deuteronomy 19:10, Deuteronomy 27:25,

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    Let's not disregard the right to life of an innocent human

    Hopefully these are all helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Exodus 23:7, Deuteronomy 19:10, Deuteronomy 19:13, Deuteronomy 21:9 "So shalt thou put away the guilt of innocent blood from among you, when thou shalt do that which is right in the sight of the Lord." 2Kings 24:4,

    Deuteronomy 27:25 "cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person; and all the people shall say, Amen"

    Psalms 10:4,8, Psalms 106:33-48,

    Proverbs 6:16-17 "These sixe things doeth the Lord hate; yea seven are an abomination unto him: A proud looke, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood" .._

    Jeremiah 22:3, Jeremiah 2:34, Jeremiah 19:5,

    Joel 3:19,

    Hopefully these help.
  • Property Lines and Ancient Landmarks - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Proverbs 22:28

    Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.

    Deuteronomy 27:17

    Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour's landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.

    Proverbs 23:10

    Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:

    Deuteronomy 19:14

    Thou shalt not remove thy neighbour's landmark, which they of old time have set in thine inheritance, which thou shalt inherit in the land that the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Denise. To your first question: Deuteronomy 19:14, "Thou shalt not remove thy neighbour's landmark, which they of old time have set in thine inheritance, which thou shalt inherit in the land that the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it."

    You may need to give more information on your second question (unless someone here is aware of a verse). The only one that comes to mind is a very general command and is found in Leviticus 19:18, "Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD."
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello James. Another perspective. God has always required 'life to be given for life'. This was true in His original Commandments to Israel ( Deuteronomy 19:21): if one wilfully took another's life, then the punishment was to be the death of the perpetrator. And so it was for the destroying the body parts of the innocent as well (v21). It may seem harsh or barbaric to do such things in response to such crimes, but in the Divine Judgement, if in a lawful legal system where witnesses to such crimes were present, then that punishment was to be carried out (not only as punishment to the guilty but that others might learn from this, v20). However, if the witnesses gave false evidence, then they suffered similar punishment as well, vv18,19.

    Having said that & to answer your question: "How did the concept of sacrifice for atonement begin?", the rule of 'life for life' was always in God's Mind & issued as part of His Laws to Israel. So, when sin entered into man, every human who committed sin was under the penalty of death ( Genesis 2:16,17; Romans 6:23) - none of us can escape it. But here we have a problem: the death that God speaks about is more than what He required of man's justice system to mete out. In the human system, only the life of man could be exterminated, but in God's System, He can remove him physically as well as positionally. True, Adam & Eve died physically because they sinned by disobeying God, but if God was to prevent them & us from also being separated from Him (i.e. into the place reserved for the Devil & his angels), then there must be a judicial means for God to use to overcome that.

    God instituted a sacrificial system for Israel, where a pure animal was sacrificed in substitute for the sinner. The sacrifice couldn't remove the sin but it looked forward when God's Own Lamb would be sent as the Sacrifice for not only Israel, but for all mankind. "Without shedding of blood is no remission" ( Hebrews 9:22): God's requirement for justice & atonement.
  • Tattletale - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Bible verses related to Tattletales from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance

    All these verses deal with tattletales, backbiters and busybodies



    Matthew 18:15-17 - Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. (Read More...)

    Deuteronomy 19:15 - One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

    2 Thessalonians 3:11-12 - For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. (Read More...)
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 5:38 - 2 years ago
    Hi Cary, at the personal response level, you're quite correct in saying that repaying evil for evil doesn't make one any better than the perpetrator. However, we also need to study the Scripture & context.

    Jesus, in Matthew 5:38,39, was referring to the Old Testament commandments that God gave ( Exodus 21:24, Leviticus 24:20, Deuteronomy 19:21). These directions were given for the proper judicial outcomes when God's Laws were disobeyed. So if it was found (by confession, by clear evidence or by witnesses) that a murder had taken place, then it was the proper judgement to mete out similar punishment as the crime. And this applied to a whole variety of offences, but such judgement was in the domain of the judges.

    What was happening amongst the Jews in Jesus' day, was that those Scriptures were being applied to personal vengeance & retribution. The classic case is found in John 8:3-11, with the woman being accused of adultery to which the law required death. We see three things here: it was the religious leaders that demanded & would oversee the stoning rather than her going through an official judicial process (The Jewish Sanhedrin or the Roman Govt, depending on the crime). The person who should have cast the first stone (a large stone to the head to kill or bring to near death the criminal, & then others with smaller stones casting them at the lifeless body) failed to come forward. Jesus Word brought conviction: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." Fortunately for the woman, the leaders & the people realized that they were sinners, as she was, & were not entitled to administer punishment. And since none accused her, the matter was dropped & didn't make it to the judiciary.

    So the "eye for an eye" rule was not to be carried out by the people filled with anger, set upon vengeance, but from a legally constituted system (though they too could have erred in judgement). Likewise, we too, cannot repay evil with evil rather with good.
  • Jim on John 5 - 10 years ago
    Mark,
    John 5:31 and John 8:18 do not contradict each other. In 5:31, Jesus is saying that, according to Jewish law, a single witness (in this case, Himself) is insufficient to establish truth (see Numbers 35:30, and especially Deuteronomy 19:15; also 2 Corinthians 13:1). In 8:18, He states that not only He, but the Father also, bears witness of Him. Thus, his witness (which agrees with that of the Father) is TRUE.


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