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  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 week ago
    GiGi,

    Part 3 Trinity discussion,

    Do you believe the Son is a created being?

    What is the meaning of created? Does it mean something that is made out of nothing? I would have to say no, Jesus is the Son of God who was conceived in the womb of Mary, Matthew 1:20 Luke 1:35, I do not think I would say He was created.

    If so, when did He come into existence?

    In God's plan before anything and physically when He was conceived in Mary's womb.

    Do you believe that the Son is only human in nature?

    Jesus is the Son of God fully human but without sin same as the first Adam, Scripture is clear when Jesus was baptized, He was anointed with the Holy Ghost/Spirit without measure, John 3:34. All the works of Jesus were done by the Spirit of God, Matthew 4:16 Matthew 12:28 Acts 10:38.

    Do you believe that Jesus became "the Christ" during His lifetime (Adoptionism)?

    I had never heard of Adoptionism until now, I had to look it up, it's false. Christ and Messiah are the same; Jesus was anointed by the Spirit of God after He was baptized by John, He then was made the Messiah/Christ fulfilling the prophecy in Daniel 9:25. Jesus is the Son of God conceived in the womb of Mary by the Holy Ghost/Spirit.

    Do you believe Jesus ever aquired a divine nature in His earthly life?

    If you mean a divine nature is to have all the attributes that make God who He is I would have to say no. If so, Jesus could not sin or be tempted, Matthew 4:1 Hebrews 4:15. If so, Jesus living a perfect life without sin is meaningless. Jesus could not have died; Jesus was given the power of the Holy Spirit when He was anointed the Messiah. After He rose from the dead God gave Jesus all power in heaven and on earth, Matthew 28:18. God raised and placed Jesus on His right side, Ephesians 1:21-23. Jesus did not return to where He was before, God the Father placed everything under Jesus God's only begotten Son's feet and Jesus will reign until the last enemy is destroyed, 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.

    See part 4.
  • Oseas - 1 month ago
    ************THE LAST DECADE - 2020-2030 - COUNTDOWN************

    february 12-2024 is the 1137th day of the LAST DECADE of the Devil's world.

    the begining of the last week - daniel 9:27 - is within of this current last decade.

    but first will be ELECTED the LAST Pope - THE NEXT -

    Be careful and get ready

    be focused for the last week of years of the Devil's world, and LITERAL fulfillment of Revelation 11:15-18
  • Oseas - 1 month ago
    The last decade - countdown

    february 11-2024 is the 1136th day of the last decade of the devil's world.

    the begining of the last week - daniel 9:27 - is within of this current last decade.

    be careful and get ready
  • Richard H Priday - 1 month ago
    "Emotions of God" as related to Moses (cont).

    The act of intercession; therefore is something crucial to communication throughout scripture that indeed gives us some insight of Hebrews 7:25 (He ever lives to intercede for us). Daniel also repeated this theme in Daniel 9:8-10. God's promise here was the prophetic insight given in Jeremiah 29:10. God stated this would happen; so it appears to be a done deal. There was no promise how many would do this; as is evident from the small group that initially rebuilt the wall; and the disobedience of many was seen with marriages to foreign wives. No doubt worldliness had affected the hearts of those who should have remembered the prosperity God gave them in Babylon and His promises to return after that time. It is a wonder that confession of the sins of church congregations isn't given much attention as compared to particulary egregious ones of individuals as it still affects the overall witness as we see from exhortations written for the churches in Revelation 2 and 3; for example.

    Look at God's faithfulness to Israel as stated in Jeremiah 31:36 where the courses of nature would have to change with the sun and moon for God to abandon His covenant promises. In fact the only covenant changed is that related to the method of worship with the law and sacrifices which was of course replaced by the perfect sacrifice under Christ which abolished therefore the old ordinances. (see Hebrews 9-10). The object of worship was therefore Christ; God had stated in Isaiah 1:11; see also Psalm 69:31.

    In understanding the New Covenant we should perceive that it is still the same God with the same characteristics today that existed in the Old Testament from eternity. We would on the surface expect that to be a "no brainer"; but how often do we see the fear of God demonstrated as in Acts 5:1-11 with Ananias and Sapphira? Our commitments to God should not be of fools ( Ecclesiastes 5:4). See Matthew 5:33-35 for ungodly vows.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 months ago
    Looking at things from God's perspective

    If we look at events unfolding today; it is no surprise when we see verses such as 1 Peter 4:17 on God judging the church before the world; and the scripture on many falling away in the last days ( 1 Timothy 4:1 and other passages). The events of Revelation MUST take place; and will come to pass after the "restrainer" is removed ( 2 Thess. 2:7).

    Therefore; there is to be expected increasing efforts from the forces of evil under Satan's dominion to attempt to jump start this process. There are many times in recent decades when an apocalyptic scenario unfolded which the Lord stopped from going any further (such as the area of Babylon under Saddam Hussein in the 1990s with the Gulf War looking like an early fulfillment of the final destruction of Babylon). We could go back centuries to see all the Antichrist candidates since Nero (Napolean; Hitler; Mussolini and many other dictators). Of course the main focus of prophecy is Israel who has miraculously been able to hold that tiny strip of land in the Middle East despite many wars (1948 at it's inception; 1967; 1973 and other skirmishes with Lebanon and the current one on many fronts). I personally believe Psalm 83 is beginning to reach it's fulfillment and may end with the Isaiah 17:1 prophecy on the destruction of Damascus (with many weapons said to be underground there and terrorist cells). I believe after success over the surronding nations Israel will at some point sign the Daniel 9:27 covenant with many to avoid futher regional strife with Turkey; Iran and other enemies who will be consolidated under Russia.

    We are; of course to continue to occupy until He comes (for some reason I can't find the verse I want here); and we are to remain as "salt and light" ( Matt. 5:13-14). God uses us to hold back evil but we need to focus on the Great Commission not bringing down a world system. We live as an example to the world ( 1 Peter 3:2 is a good example).
  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    Scriptural promises and blessings

    Daniel 9:18-20 show how Daniel asked the Lord to remember the state of Jerusalem being in desolation and His promises (as seen in the book of Jeremiah) of reoccupation and return of the Jews after 70 years of exile (see Jeremiah 29:10). The sins of the people in question were something Daniel took on as a burden to himself in his prayers; fasting and supplications.

    In terms of blessings of a general sort there is that of those who find a wife ( Prov. 18:22). There is also the offspring; or fruit of the womb that is specifically stated to be a blessing ( Deut. 7:13; and several passages in Psalms). Deuteronomy lists blessings for those who obey God's statutes and cursings for those who don't in extensive passages in Deuteronomy 28. As we look at God's chosen people in Exodus; clearly the Lord showed favor in physically delivering the Jews from Egypt; but as Romans 9:6 states not everyone benefitted from it. In fact only Joshua and Caleb survived from the first generation; even Moses was unable to enter the land but saw it from afar due to an isolated sin on his part ( Deut. 3:23 and following verses).

    What we can count on in our sanctification and ultimate glorification ( Romans 8:30). All the prophetic scriptures will be fulfilled to the letter. This includes Israel being restored; the earth being renewed; Christ ruling in the Millennium; wars ending throughout the world; extended lifespans; etc.

    The blessings of financial matters is promised for those who are living by faith (we see the example of Abraham in Genesis 13:2 as the first demonstration of this in scripture although technically the text of Job may be older as an example of God's financial blessings (see Job 1:16 and subsequent verses). Satan was well aware of God's provisions and favor and therefore we can be certain that he will attempt to thwart OR substitute God's blessings with his own which end up being dead ends and illusions.

    ( 1 Peter 5:8).
  • Oseas - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Shabbat Keeper" and all

    In fact, concerning the day of Christ's return, even our Lord JESUS said no man know, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But GOD the Father has given an important and wanderful clue for us to discern not the day, but the moment of this wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable, event of Crist's return, through the prophet Daniel.

    Daniel 12:5-7 and 11-12 say:

    5 I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

    6And one said to the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

    7And I heard the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven,and sware by Him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time,times,and and HALF;and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

    11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away,and the abomination that maketh desolate set up( Matthew 24:15-25.Take a look),there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.(1260 days of the 2nd half of the last week,week 70th, Daniel 9:27,plus a gap of 30 days).But what does the Word of GOD say and rfeveal unto us?It's in Daniel 12:12:

    12Blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.Yeah, day 1335, the wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable day, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to know now when will it be in the calendar, except to GOD the Father who is in control of History, and as said JESUS unto His disciples: "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in His own Power. Note that there will be also a gap of 45 days after 1290 days, then the wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable day 1335 arrives.Then the current world of Devil finish in LITERAL fulfilment of Re.11:15-18.

    Get ready
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 4 months ago
    I assume you are in England. This is sad; and haunting seeing where a little over 100 years ago England fought at least in part to oppose the Ottomon Empire's last stand for a Caliphate in regard to the Turks. Armenia is threatening a repeat of what happened then. It is ironic with the left seemingly leaning as far as they can it isn't enough as far as Palestinian rights are concerned.

    Looking back I would suppose this is judgment; at least in part to the basically dead churches in England; who used to be a bastion of righteousness a couple hundred years ago with the great reformers and preachers and revivals in Europe that spread to the USA. There is a remnant which you are part of who truly believe. There are some who are reaching out to the youth today; and truly they will have to have a vision of their own to have any real impact on their generation. Antichrist is coming surely; to fill in the power vacuum that has existed since the end of World War two; basically. The governments are losing out to these mobs; as most who carefully worked to formulate one world government will be trampled by the results. The end result; of course is the false peace of the first seal which everyone claims to want followed by the 2nd seal which rather than being organized warfare is going to be mortal hand to hand combat most likely. The other wars come later as Israel becomes the focus of anger.

    I tend to think that Israel will increase its territorial lands through conquering all their neighbors first ( Psalm 83 and at some point Isaiah 17). This will allow them at some point to have a respite where they sign the Daniel 9:27 pact. It is not until they are feeling secure in unwalled villages that Ezekiel 38 indicates the rest of the outer nations will launch a coordinated attack. For now casualties haven't mounted in these demonstrations as any one of them could be catastrophic.

    I'll keep you in prayer and your family.

    Rich P.
  • Richard H Priday - 4 months ago
    Persecution to come

    I am interrupting my current postings for now as I believe that it is prudent to give a watchman's warning as to the rapidly spiraling out of control demonstrations that are breaking out in many cities across America related to this war between Israel and Hamas and no doubt other factions which has just broken the 30 day mark. This has already exceeded the length of most other recent conflicts in that nation and likely will exceed the length of all wars there from 1948 to today; perhaps even all combined together. The demonstrations here and worldwide are targeting Jews but you can be certain that the Christians are next.

    Our choice now seems to be continuing with our current political party (who apparently despite supporting the Palestinians are still hated by the demonstrators); or going back to the former President who no doubt will have to have martial law and brutal crackdowns to get anything under control.

    We need to seize every moment to proclaim the Gospel; and wisely prepare for what is to come. Our Lord could be returning any time now; but I don't see that happening until Israel has secured its borders; and eventually comes to some sort of more peaceful existance before the Ezekiel 38 war can commence. That is when I expect the Daniel 9:27 treaty when all the surrounding areas such as Jordan and perhaps Syria are dealt with in the Isaiah 17 prophecy. Whatever that timing is; our country has been invaded by millions and no doubt we have terrible days coming; perhaps as bad as the Civil War. Once we see tens of thousands demonstrating like this; and Jewish students having to hide in libraries we know persecution is near.

    Our time of armchair spectator sport Christianity is rapidly waning. On one hand this should help to destroy the prosperity gospel and many false ministries. On the other I pray we all trust in the Spirit to give us words in that hour of trial which no doubt many will face both here and abroad.
  • Oseas - 5 months ago
    What was the biblical significance of the construction and FALL of the TWO TOWERS of the World Trade Center? By allegory, the material things are figures of spiritual things. For example, Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answers to Jerusalem which now is, which genders to bondage, and is in bondage with her children. By the way, GOD is in control of history, nothing random happens.

    In the yar 2001, The United States was the single largest economy on the planet, followed by the European Union- Both economic Powers were represented on the Twin Towers,but the 7 towers were built symbolizing the 7 regions of the Earth-Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania(Australia), North America, Central America, and South America, but two Towers were the main ones, the Twin Towers, the others were secondary, they had less meaning except a representation of the 7 regions of the Earth.WTC.

    Humanity had just entered a new millennium,from the sixth to the seventh(check it in purebibleforum about the exact difference of 240 years-in-the-jewish-calendar), so, according Scriptures at the turn of a new Day( 2Peter 3:v.8), therefore, the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium.

    The fall of the two towers of the World Trade Center signified that both Economies-USA and UE(European Union)- would fall in ruin day after day, in the days to come, and upon the earth distress of nations(of the whole earth),with perplexity;Men's hearts failing them for fear,and for looking after the things which are coming on the earth.And this generation shall not pass away,till all be fulfilled.

    Again:The material things are figures of spiritual things.After the fall of the WTC in the year 2001,there was a sucession of terrible significative events until the current time,and the worst is in the way,the worst will happen from now on,that is the beginning of the last week,week 70th Daniel 9:27; the last 7 years of the World of Devil is arriving.

    And Revelation 11:15-18 will LITERALLY be fulfilled

    Get ready
  • Oseas - 5 months ago
    The Papacy and the RCC-which rides upon the MAN Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-,the Pope,a Gentile Beast,actually a religious and satanic MONSTER having 7 heads and 10 horns,and upon his horns 10 crowns,and upon his heads a NAME of blasphemy,this religious MONSTER will do a partnership with the MAN Beast of the earth- Revelation 13:11-,who has two horns like a lamb(a false lamb,a false messiah- John 5:43-47-AN IMPOSTOR),who will manifest in days to come,probably in this year or in the next,and shall speak as a dragon- Revelation 13:11

    How will be this partnership between the MAN Beast of the sea(sea are peoples,and nations,and multitudes of all tongues- Revelation 17:15),and the MAN Beast of the earth that is like a lamb,a false lamb,a false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR- John 5:43-,yeah, how will be this partnership?

    Revelation 13:2 gives us the answer for this question, that is:

    To the MAN Beast of sea which is like unto a leopard,and his feet as the feet of a bear,and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(actually it refers the roots of this satanic Gentile Beast- Daniel 7:4-6, yeah, to him the false messiah-the dragon-Rev.13:11-,will give his Power, and his Seat(in Jerusalem, where is the Throne of Satan),and great Authority-Rev.13:2,and Power will be given unto the MAN Beast of sea-to the last of the Popes or Papacy,for forty and two months- Revelation 13:5.By the way,this period of 42 months ruled by the last Pope sat in the Throne of the false messiah in Jerusalem is the FIRST HALF of the last week-week 70th, Daniel 9:27,so Catholicism(iron)and the esoteric and kabbalistic Judaism(the clay)both will be together to establish an Universal and satanic religious kingdom,and then will LITERALLY be fulfilled what my Lord JESUS prophesied: "...and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles(with the Pope enthroned in Jerusalem by the false messiah),until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled-that is the fullness of the Gentiles"- Luke 21:24 combined with Revelation 11:2

    Get ready
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Well; whenever you do get to see my letter here; I just am expressing my thanks again for your friendship; and your deep insights and wisdom. Given the circumstances I have to think carefully about the topics which are expressed here; I certainly see a need for prophetic scriptures; especially in light of my posting the other day on Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38.

    I have gotten some negative commentary here on the concept of false peace; but as always I am quoting scripture. Peace is to be taken from the earth in the 2nd seal; that could be from the false peace of the first seal; but also it would seem when these conflagrations end there has to be a time for unwalled villages in Israel; and economic worldwide development for things to get to the point of the Daniel 9:27 covenant. With everyione on high alert with the current situation it is likely different than the rapture time frame when it comes at a time we do not expect; with buying; selling; marriage; etc. The Ezekiel 38 war is for a spoil; which certainly could imply the rich oil; gas and other resources there now which the current war has no plans to conquer; and again in that war the nations themselves and their armies fight; rather than proxy wars such as we see at present. The Antichrist has a systematic 10 nation or world region rulership; therefore sovereign power is involved with worldwide conquest.

    It is possible the second seal is more like we are seeing now but on a worldwide scale; such as what may be planned at present but since we are still in the church age it no doubt will be muted somewhat. By the trumpet judgments of course we see the armies being mustered; the Euphrates dried up (which has happened somewhat but not finalized until the specific demons are relaased). It ends in Armageddon but just before that the Jews finally recognize their Messiah as Zechariah indicates.

    Yes being right with God and trusting Him to give Him glory in our death is a priority. Will keep you in prayer.
  • Kush on Proverbs 6:16 - 5 months ago
    Note that 6:34-35 is referring to "a man" which would be too presumptions to indicate that it is referring to a jealous husband of a harlot!?, wherein many commentaries seem to suggest. For, why would such a jealous (good) husband be so enraged over a harlot, supposedly his wife!?. Nay. However, in view of the subject mater proceeding these two verses and, as it were comparing scripture with scripture, it seems much more likely that 6:34-35 is pointing to "a man" that (evil) prince that shall come in Daniel 9:26-27.
  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    In yesterday's posts; I listed categories of "left vs right" and a lawless mindset as characterizing two things which we now face as we race toward the Lord's return and the Tribulation. Since the "lawless" one is setting the stage for arrival; we can see how either political side has similar agendas leading to an endgame. ( 2 Thess. 2:8-12).

    Throughout history; we see two approaches toward the church by either the left leaning leadership (such as under Communist China today) or the right leaning totalitarian dictatorship (Hitler). We see infiltration of the church by the state to constrain and monitor what is taught; or we see the leader himself taken up with a Messianic type adoration who is to be worshipped more or less as a savior. The other option is widespread persecution; looting and burning of houses of worship and executions of believers. Either extreme politically brings about lawlessness eventually; from the revolutions and overthrow of the establishment that is encouraged from the outset; to mock trials which never adhere to even the written codes for justice; to vast excesses with leadership who live in luxury while the rest of society struggles to survive. When Antichrist arrives he will claim to be God to some extent; but be "self made" and deny the father and the son ( 1 John 2:22-23).

    When the Daniel 9:27 covenant is made; clearly we see other related verses describing a "man of intrigue" ( Dan. 11:21) who divides the land for gain ( Daniel 11:39) understanding "dark sentences" ( Dan. 8:23); i.e. occult mindset. Money and power broker status has always been the driving force for those in the elite to control the world and enrich themselves. It is clear that we are near an agreement or confirming that covenant with many which will allow the Temple to function and give Israel what seems like a peace arrangement with surrounding nations. At the appointed time it will happen; but also end seven years later

    ( Daniel 7:26).

    Agape. RIch P
  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    The Rapture (part 3) REASONS FOR THE RAPTURE

    I have in other posts described why the Rapture is going to occur. It fulfills scriptures such as Malachi 3:16 in the book of remembrance of those who OFTEN talk about the Lord and it is to reward those who patiently wait for His coming ( James 1:12 and other supporting text). My commentary also discussed how it is for the reunion of all the saints; past and present at the Lord's feet; and for us to be presented in the church as "kings and priests" who will rule and reign with Him ( Rev. 5:10). We are the armies of heaven who will eventually return with Christ in Revelation 19:14; and be accompanied by angels as well.

    Psalm 40:3 shows how many shall see and fear us being lifted up from the miry clay (verses 1-2). The provoking of the Jews to jealousy ( Romans 11:14) perhaps will occur when the times of the Gentiles are full ( Romans 11:25). In any event the time of Jacob's trouble is specifically for the week of testing for seven years ( Jeremiah 30:7; Daniel 9:26-27) which is also known as Daniel's 70th week.

    Let us assume for a moment that the Rapture IS going to happen before the end of this year for instance. How many are ready for His coming? How many have their garments unspotted and unwrinkled ( Eph. 5:27). I have mentioned before that whether people believe the Rapture is Pretribulation or some other later date; it is the fruit of our lives that is most important. A theoretical concept won't keep those away who are true servants of the Master; but I guarantee those who are espousing a PreTrib Rapture but whose lives are not according to His will will by and large be shocked in many cases being left behind. Whether all these people never believed inthe first place or the Rapture is a reward issue; surely a great multitude will be saved but die as martyrs in the Tribulation ( Rev. 7:9). That is the purpose for the Tribulation for God's children; along with gathering the unregenerate for destruction.
  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    The Rapture: Imminency and the Feast of Trumpets

    Many are aware Rosh Hashanah is coming between tomorrow and September 17 officially; which is known as the time in Jewish tradition where "no man knows the day and hour". ( Matt. 24:36). Of course even Jesus was said not to know the hour; only the Father so that it could be at any time; but perhaps on some specific feast of Trumpets based on the "last trump" ( 1 Cor. 15:52). Some have argued this means the last trumpet judgment in Revelation 11:15. The argument against that is that things appear to be going on as usual such as in the time of Noah (as we see in Matthew 24:37-39 immediately following the earlier reference). Surely that WON'T be the case after 14 judgments come to the earth.

    As to this year; of xourse we have another interesting development with world leaders preparing to meet and apparently now floating through Saudi Arabia a peace deal for the Palestinians and Jews which they are only observing that; of course will divide Jerusalem. ( Dan. 11:39); and that will be part of the Daniel 9:27 prophecy as well; or the covenant with death and hell ( Isaiah 28:18). This will result eventually in half of the city taken ( Zech. 14:1-2). It is interesting this meeting is timed for Sept 19-20 and they will celebrate world peace early (normally it is Sept. 21 apparently for the World day of peace).

    Let's step back a bit. I remember 40 reasons the Lord must come by 1988 (not sure the author). THAT didn't happen so the last genreation if it began in 1948 for the Lord to return based on Matthew 24:34 was wrong. Fast forward to 2018 and again SEVENTY years later which is as long as a generation can be and still no rapture. For Psalm 90:10 to be right the rapture would have had to happen by 2021 for the Second coming 2028 and STILL no rapture. My thesis is the beginning date is wrong; bassed on several things such as Luke 21:29-31 discussing ALL the trees (perhaps the whole area prospering economically)
  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    Zechariah overview

    There is much prophetic scripture in Zechariah; much of which can be directly connected with prophecies in Revelation; as well as with the first coming of Christ. There is the idea of the New Covenant replacing the old one with Israel but never a total abandonment of Israel where God eventually is destined to establish His people in peace and prosperity in the Millennial Kingdom.

    Zechariah 1 begins with a description of the earth being at rest (verse 11); but the expected promises of the end of captivity in mind in verse 12. Verse 13 indicates an affirmation of words of comfort to an angel that apparently communicated with Zechariah on these matters. Verses 16 and 17 indicate prosperity to return with the rest of the chapter indicating the "horns" (V. 21) that had scattered the land of Judah.

    We need to be mindful of the reasons for the captivity as shown in earlier verses 3 through 6; this is a repeated theme in scriptures; much as Daniel at around the same time would pray in regard to the scattered people (see Daniel 9:1-19). In fact; many prophets begin their books with a review of rebellious acts such as Isaiah 1 where even an ox knows it's master but the people are dumber than animals ( Isaiah 1:3). Ezekiel also talks about the woe of the people being obstinate ( Ezekiel 2:4); and is put into bands to signify the captivity and had to eat food cooked with cow dung (as a concession to protest of human dung in Ezekiel 4:14 (ugh). Finally the last book of the O.T. Malachi also starts discussing poor attitudes among those who are offering sacrifices. Blessings are promised for those who would truly sacrifice with the right attitude (contrasted with Malachi 1:8) in the third chapter from verses 10-18.

    The sins of Israel will not be fully removed until the Lord is about to return ( Zech. 12:12-14). Thankfully we cannot thwart HIs eternal plans or we all would be finished. His mercies are renewed daily ( Lamentations 3:22-23).
  • Oseas - 6 months ago
    To all

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    All the world of Devil,with all kind of structures they all have,yeah,all the nations are suffering and will suffer catastrofic and insufferable punishments in this seventh and last millennium,or seventh and last Day,the LORD's Day.By the way,the precedent period of sorrows-Mat.24:3-8-is the beginning of the ETERNAL chastisement.In fact,the ETERNAL punishment of all nations it had a deadline to start,understand?but not to FINISH,for it is for ever and ever.I must say that the Eternal punishment is already started,and it will NEVER end,but never.

    Now,within this environment of punishments and pains,and the entire collapse of the Devil's world(as WTC's collapse-2001),the false messiah of the Jews,as you know,will manifest himself,as JESUS prophesied to the Jews,saying to them that an IMPOSTOR they will receive as their messiah- John 5:43-47,combined with 2Thess.2:3-12,and Rev.13 :11-18,among other biblical references.Take a look.

    Thus,in the midst of severe chastisement and great suffering in all nations due the wrath of the Lamb,we will soon see two Beasts reigning on Earth:

    1- the ancient Gentile Beast of the Sea;

    2- the Beast of the earth (Israel) who still will manifest himself, from then on will begin the period of the last week,the 70th week Daniel 9:27,and each Beast will reign for 3,5 years-42 months-or 1260 days-and who will first rule the 5th and last kingdom of Satan-Dan.2:41-44- is the ancient Gentile Beast of the sea.

    Then Rev.11:2 and Rev.13:5 will begin to be LITERALLY fulfilled as to the first period of the last week.The worst of all punishments will happen in the beginning of the 2nd half of the last week, with the establishment of the Abomination of Desolation for 1290 days-Dan.12:v.11.

    12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.(Oh yes, blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the Ineffable,Wonderful,Indescribable, Unspeakable day,the day 1.335.Hallelujah!!!
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    THE WONDERFUL AND GLORIOUS DAY OF RESURRECTION- JOHN 11:24-,THE SEVENTH AND LAST DAY OR SEVENTH AND LAST MILLENNIUM

    Revelation 1:8- I am Alpha and Omega,the beginning and the ending,saith the Lord,which is, and which was,and which is to come,the Almighty.

    Matthew 28:18- And JESUS came and spake saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    Luke 20:35-37 -> 35 They which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world(the next world), and the resurrection from the dead,neither marry,nor are given in marriage:

    36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

    38 For GOD is not a GOD of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

    Phil.3:20-21 -> 20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

    21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

    1Cor.15:51-54 and 24-26 -->51 Behold, I shew you a MYSTERY; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

    52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

    54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    24 Then cometh the end,when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,even the Father;when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power(This prophecy will fulfill LITERALLY from now on)

    25 For He must reign,till he hath put all enemies under His feet.

    26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

    Get ready for the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:27

    continues below
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    More than opinion is revelation. Matthew 24 has in part been LITERALLY fulfilled. In the year 70AD, verses 1 and 2 were fulfilled with the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem and the dispersion of the Jews throughout the world during 1878 years of severe plagues and curses, in addition to insufferable pain, according to Deuteronomy 28:15-68, 53 verses of strong and severe punishments.

    Now, verses 3 to 8 are being fulfilled, the beginning of sorrows, and the decay of the Churches with the development of apostasies and iniquities-verses 9 to 14.

    Then, the last week- Daniel 9:27- is about to start and with this event the persecutions of the first half of the week-42 months- Revelation 13:5- by the Beast of sea, culminating with the establishment of the Abomination of Desolation for 1,290 days in the second half of the week (plus 30 days)-verses 15 to 27 combined with Daniel 12:11 and 11:v.31. It is the END of this world and a sign of the coming of JESUS: Matthew 24:3 combined with Revelation 11:15-18. Blessed is he who waits and comes at 1335 days- Daniel 12:12 , 45 days after finishing the Abomination of Desolation. GET READY
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD, self-executable. By the way, GOD calleth those things which be not as though they were-understand? Romans 4:17 and Hebrews 4:3. Take a look.

    In my vision, and I'm sure of this, the day of Christ's return is the day 1.335 - Daniel 12:12. GOD said: 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. Why GOD said that? Exactly 75 days after the END of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:27, and 45 days after the END of the Abomination of Desolation.

    The question is: How to know by the calendar what day the day 1335 will fall on? Impossible, for now. Anyway, get ready, because it's very close.

    GOD BLESS YOU, AND ALL
  • Oseas - In Reply - 8 months ago
    "Rainwalker"

    Right. Very soon there will be TWO DISTINCTS MAN Beasts operating or reigning in the Earth in this current time of Apocalypse, time of the END( 1Corinthians 15:24-28.Take a look.) Let us be ready to face them with the Sword, the Word of GOD- Hebrews 4:12-13KJV-. As you said, they are:

    1 - the Beast of sea

    2 - the Beast of the earth

    1 - The very old and serial Gentilic MAN Beast of sea - Rev.13:1-10- , has seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy, and whose very ancient roots are described in the verse 2.

    2 - The MAN Beast of the earth having two horns like a lamb, a false lamb, in fact a false and ruthless messiah, Rev.13:11-18 combined with John 5:43-47 and 2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 and 9-12. Terrible. Terrible.

    Let us prepare to enter and face the final environment of the last week of the Devil's world, and the establishment of the FIFTH universal Devil's kingdom, the Antichrist's kingdom, and also in the middle of this last week the Abomination of Desolation- Daniel 9:27-, this satanic Kingdom is represented and described allegorically in the feet and ten toes of the statue of Nebuchadnezzar, part of iron and part of clay, according to Dan.2:41-45.Take a look.

    In that fifth universal empire of the Devil, the universal empire of Antichrist, two satanic Beasts will be reigning on Earth, a Gentile Beast and a Jewish Beast, both represented literally in Rev.13, first as the Beast that rose out of the sea, rose from among the nations, from among the peoples, it rose precisely in Italy more or less 2.000 years ago still in the Roman Empire, and the second Beast, the Beast that will still rise from the Earth in this current time, precisely in Israel -Jerusalem- the holy city- this Beast will sit on his own throne as if he was God, claiming to be the messiah, actually an IMPOSTER, a false Christ,-Matt.24:23-, as JESUS warned us, and will exalt himself as if he were God, but he is MAN and not God.
  • Jesse - 8 months ago
    INTRODUCTION TO MARK (Part 5):

    Justin Martyr, in 150 A.D. stated "Mark's Gospel was the memoirs of Peter." Iranaeus, in 185 A.D. said that "Mark was a disciple and interpreter of Peter." There are some areas they would go to that Peter was speaking Aramaic, and the people didn't understand him. So, Mark was there to interpret, and he was the helper to Peter. And then he wrote the Gospel from Peter's testimony.

    V. WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN:

    It was written around the mid 60's A.D.

    THE RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER BOOKS:

    It is believed to be the first gospel written because of the history and the data that we have. Mark's Gospel was the first gospel written of the four, because as I shared with you in the introduction to Matthew, both Matthew and Luke, they follow the outline of Mark. And out of the 665 verses in Mark, 500 of them are exactly quoted in Matthew. And again, Luke follows the outline, but he has a little more detail to add in.

    VI. WHY IT WAS WRITTEN:

    It was written to present Jesus as the Suffering Servant. Now that is not just a phrase. You have to understand that this is a problem. To say that the Messiah came to be a Suffering Servant created a problem for the Jews. The Jews were not looking for that. The Jews were looking for their Messiah to come, set up His kingdom in Jerusalem, free them from the Roman government, and set up His kingdom on the earth.

    Remember, when Jesus rode into Jerusalem, He rode in to the exact day of Daniel's prophecy in Daniel 9:24-27. All prophecy centers around Daniel 9:24 to 27. It maps it out to the day. From the time the decree was made for the rebuilding of Jerusalem back in Nehemiah's day (March 14, 445 BC), from that day, it would be 69 sevens, or 483 years, or 178,880 days (to the day) that Jesus rode into Jerusalem, 178,880 days later.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Hi Brother Carleton.

    I ran out of space.

    Here is Part 2.

    As I mentioned before, I believe these 70 weeks to be weeks of years.

    Let's carefully look at Daniels prophecy as if they were consecutive.

    Let's start where we know the 69th week ends.

    It literally pinpoints a particular day.

    ( unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks:)

    Everything written in Daniel 9 :26 is after the 69th week, "But before the 70th".

    (AND AFTER THREESCORE AND TWO WEEKS SHALL MESSIAH BE CUT OFF,)

    Now, let's look at the 70th week, ( 7 years)

    Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease...

    There's several things wrong mathematically with some of the views I hear from most that share that these weeks are conservative.

    We know by scripture Jesus was crucified within days of his entry into Jerusalem riding on a donkey.

    We know by Daniel's prophecy in Daniel 9:25 that the 69th week ends at the coming of the prince.

    If the cross is the half way point of the 70th week then that would contradict Daniel prophecy and push the 70th week back 3.5 years. ( 3.5 years before unto the coming of the prince.)

    It don't add up going backwards, So let's go forward taking it either way.

    If we go forward these final years come up about 37 years short of the Destruction of Jerusalem mentioned in Daniel 9:26 which is supposed to be in the 70th week according to this viewpoint.

    There's an interval either way you look at it.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Hi Brother Carleton.

    Thanks for replying.

    Jesus didn't come to end the law and make it desolate. He came to fulfill the law and perfect it.

    He came to end the Leviticus priesthood where they presented sacrifices that pointed to him.

    ( Matthew 5:17-18.)

    They rejected their king "Which was prophesied" They made their own "HOUSE" desolate. ( A people without a King to set on David's throne )

    What the Prince that shall come does is totally different,

    In Daniel 9:27 he confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate.

    This is the same thing mentioned in Daniel 12:11, (The abomination that maketh desolate.)

    This is what Jesus is saying in Matthew 24:15, ( This can't be at the end of Christ ministry because he said it this abomination would be at the end of the world.)

    This 3.5 period is called the GREAT tribulation and it's prophesied towards Daniels "THY PEOPLE, ISRAEL.) Daniel 9:24.

    You see this played out in Revelation 12:6.

    Let's look at who confirms the covenant for 1 week.

    Daniel 9:26-27 reads "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: AND THE PEOPLE OF THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

    AND HE SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease....

    The Romans destroyed the Sanctuary, Jesus is not their prince.

    Jesus didn't confirm this covenant and cause it to cease at his death.

    Jesus death BEGINS a covenant!

    The covenant in Daniel is a totally different covenant the Antichrist will confirm with Israel and cause the sacrifices to cease midway through the 70th week/Tribulations.

    Revelation 13:15

    2 Thessalonians 2:3-4.

    God bless.

    See pt2
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Hi Brother Carleton.

    Thanks for replying.

    I'm glad to hear you're doing fine and welcome back to the site!

    We're doing fine as well.

    You stated;

    These seven weeks can be WEEKS OF DAYS and we know from Bible history that the years in rebuilding the holy city were very much so troublesome times. 62 more years after these seven WEEKS OF DAYS makes 69 weeks. At the end of the 69th week the Messiah came and was cut off mid-week in the 70th week.

    I have ALL the 70 weeks as weeks of years, starting and ending on a specific day.

    Beginning at "FROM THE GOING FORTH OF THE COMMANDMENT to restore and to build Jerusalem.

    and ending at "unto the Messiah the Prince/King when Jesus "PRESENTED HIMSELF" as king

    Full filing Zachariah 9:9

    and a portion of Genesis 49:9-11.

    "Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

    The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; AND UNTO HIM SHALL THE GATHERING OF THE PEOPLE BE.

    BINDING HIS FOAL UNTO THE VINE, AND HIS ASS'S COLT unto the choice vine;..

    Daniel 9:26 says AND AFTER THREESCORE AND TWO WEEKS SHALL MESSIAH BE CUT OFF.

    ( It doesn't say in the middle of the 70th week. )

    Daniel 9:27 Say the prince that SHALL COME he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:

    That is the beginning of the 70th week.

    ( the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

    And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, )

    That's yet future.

    God bless you brother.
  • Carleton - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Good evening brother Spencer, I hope all is well your way. Very hot here but no fires so far. :)

    This scripture is the beginning of how some Amillennialism thinking Christians meditate on where we might be in time.

    "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times." Daniel 9:25 KJV

    It was a very important time in Jewish history as they were carried into Babylon and by God's great Providence set free by Cyrus the King. His decree was momentous. By interpreting the seven weeks separate from the three score and two weeks as it is written it is a special period of time standing alone. These seven weeks can be weeks of days and we know from Bible history that the years in rebuilding the holy city were very much so troublesome times. 62 more years after these seven weeks of days makes 69 weeks. At the end of the 69th week the Messiah came and was cut off mid-week in the 70th week. The transgression being full in the 70th week. Approximately 3-1/2 weeks (37 years?) later in the spring was the beginning of destruction of the holy city which ended in the fall.

    Part of this great mystery involves Herod the Great and he wanting to protect his kingdom and power and the spirit that enabled him was an antichrist spirit.

    There are many scriptures that can point to this viewpoint with keeping all of the Gospel teachings without violence.

    Thank you for the discussion!
  • S Spencer - 8 months ago
    Matthew 24:3-21.

    "And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

    The disciples asked Jesus 3 questions and he answered them in verse 15.

    Verses 4-14 would be non signs of the end of the world. He says that in verse 6. "And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet."

    And then he goes on with the beginning of these sorrows as mentioned in Matthew 24:8 until he gets to verses 14 and15.

    Vs 14. "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

    Vs 15. "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by "DANIEL THE PROPHET, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

    WHOSO READETH, LET HIM UNDERSTAND!!:

    Jesus is diverting them back to Daniel 9:27 as the key to end time prophecy. The 70th week of Daniel.

    "And he/Antichrist shall confirm the covenant with many FOR ONE WEEK: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,)

    The Great tribulation begins in the middle of the 70th week with Jesus describing Daniels prophecy as the key and details this event in Matthew 24:16-21.

    Daniel 12:9-11 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed TILL THE TIME OF THE END.

    Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE set up, there shall be a (thousand two hundred and ninety days). 3.5 years!

    Also see Revelation 12:14.

    ( time, and times, and half a time,)

    Another way of saying 3.5 years!

    The 70th week of Daniel is future.

    God bless.
  • Carleton - 8 months ago
    For meditation- mostly inspired by a brother in faith that passed away around 22 years ago.

    Weeks of years and weeks of days is key.

    "Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers." Matthew 23:32 KJV

    We believe in a risen Christ!

    Gabriel delivered a message to Daniel that in time they (Israel) would finish the transgression. Jesus knew this time and spoke to the Jews that they (the same generation) would finish the measure of the fathers. In Gabriel's message both the people and the holy city would be affected by the determined time, seventy weeks.The pronouncement broke the seventy weeks down in parts. In a way the seventy years of captivity was the latter days for the Jews. From the decree of king Cyrus the seventy weeks began. First seven weeks of years in unsettled times of building back their nation as recorded in Ezra and Jeremiah. Daniel 9:26 states the Messiah will be cut off at 62 weeks. 62 weeks plus the seven weeks would "unto the Messiah" being cut off.

    69 weeks not 70?

    Daniel 9:27 says "and he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week" this is the seventieth week or else the phrase "unto the Messiah" makes little sense.

    In the middle of the 27th verse of Daniel, in the middle of the week the Messiah "shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease"

    In the 70th week Jesus began His ministry of preaching the Gospel "confirmed the covenant with many". Three and one half years later, He was cut off by the crucification. When the Messiah was cutoff after delivering the New Covenant while the Old Covenant ceased at the same time in the middle part of the 70th week. For about forty years from the time of the crucification to the destruction of Jerusalem which began around the same time of the year was a period of Grace for the Jews to repent and be of the first born of God's Holy Church. This period of time completes the 70 weeks. Both verses 9:26 and 27 speak of this last time.

    The times of the Gentiles began at this time.
  • Richard H Priday - 9 months ago
    A final warning on appearance of Antichrist

    No doubt a repeated theme; it seems prescient to once again drive home the point that "peace and security" will be the mantra bringing in the Antichrist to launching his campaign to take over the world. ( 1 Thess. 5:3). The "bloodless coup" which Revelation 6:1 seems to indicate will be accompanied by a man of intrigue understanding "dark sentences" ( Daniel 8:23). That verse is also packed with the description of all world rulers at the peak of corruption at the time this event occurs. These verses indicate occult origins; which the reader will note was prevalent particularly with Adolf Hitler in World War two.

    No doubt like a chameleon this man will be able to give an appearance that will appeal to men of all audiences. As to the amount of success he will have with his military resume before this time is somewhat speculative; it would seem from Daniel 7:8 that his description as the "little horn" means that he comes from relative obsurity; then suddenly starts controlling the world scene. The Abraham accords which encompass dividing the land for gain ( Dan. 11:39) through massive economic payments and redistribution certainly seem like they will be the catalyst or at least one major component of the Daniel 9:27 confirming of this covenant.

    Just how he will pull off explaining the Resurrection of the dead and the Rapture is subject to speculation. It is also uncertain exactly when the first seal event occurs; it seems that it could be immediately after the Rapture; but perhaps there will be a time of transition beforehand just to alleviate the inevitable chaos; if indeed my eschatological view is correct on the Pre-Trib rapture.

    Resistance on a human level based on the previous scriptural references clearly is going to be futile (see also Rev. 13:4). No doubt the full power will come after the assassination and possession (I contend with the angel from the abyss Rev. 9:11.)

    see Zech 11:17.


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