According to this verse, the boastful will not stand in God's presence. Those who praise themselves instead of God will not stand in God's presence. Psalm 1:5 mentions this fact too. It says, "the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous." Absalom, whom David was fleeing, was boastful and arrogant ( 2 Samuel 15:1-6).
Second Samuel 15:4 reports that he would say, "Oh that I were judge in the land! Then every man with a dispute or cause might come to me, and I would give him justice." Jesus told the story of a proud Pharisee who went to the temple and boasted about his self-righteousness but was rejected by God ( Luke 18:9-14). Jesus said, "Everyone who exalts himself will be humbled" ( Luke 18:14).
Scripture tells us God hates all evildoers (see also Psalm 11:5). The word "hate" may seem harsh, but we must try to understand how abhorrent evil is in God's eyes. Murderers, liars, and deceivers such as those who wanted to destroy David are totally detestable to God and therefore merit His righteous, holy hatred.
The term is also used to describe a Hebrew custom which indicated deep sorrow. Upon the death of a relative or important personage, or when there was a great calamity, it was customary for the Hebrews to tear their garments. Reuben rent his clothes when he found that Joseph had been taken from the pit ( Genesis 37:29). The sons of Jacob rent their clothes when the cup was found in Benjamin's sack ( Genesis 44:13). A messenger came to Eli with his clothes rent to tell of the taking of the ark of God and of the death of his two sons ( 1 Samuel 4:12). David rent his garments when he heard that Absalom had slain his brothers ( 2 Samuel 13:31). See also 2 Samuel 15:32; 2 Kings 18:37; Isaiah 36:22; Jeremiah 41:5. Rending of clothes was also an expression of indignation. The high priest rent his garment when Jesus spoke what he thought was blasphemy ( Matthew 26:65).
King David is accredited as author of Psalms 23, here is some of his documented historical references that may help understand deeper: 1 Samuel 19:1,9,10,11,15,18,20-24, 2 Samuel 12:7-14, 2 Samuel 15:14,
Did you notice? David feared GOD & would not lay his hand on GOD's anointted & felt remorseful for cutting Saul's garment.
1 Samuel 24:4,5,6 , 1 Samuel 24:10,
Saul also ripped Samuel's garment 1 Samuel 15:27 however 1 Samuel 15:28-29. Even after remorseful repentance 1 Samuel 15:29,30,35
Do think the significance of the clothing was a factor? 1 Samuel 2:19, His mother's sacrifice 1 Samuel 1:28
Saul pursued David to kill him: 1 Samuel 19:1,10,11,15,
& Saul ordered the prophets of GOD killed, possibly unarmed, their families, livestock & nursing babies included.; 1 Samuel 22:17,18,19 Same Saul that left the enemy King & livestock alive in disobedience to GOD's orders. 1 Samuel 15:1,2,3,8,9,
Psalms 105:15
David's mercy 2 Samuel 9:3-7,
David's sin & judgement: 2 Samuel 12:7,9,11,12,14,18, 2 Samuel 13:1,6,7,8,12,13,14,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,28,29,30,31,32, after years 2 Samuel 14:25,30,31,32, 2 Samuel 15:6,10,12,13,14,16,23,30,31, 2 Samuel 16:3,5,6,7,8,11,13,22, 2 Samuel 17:21,23,29, 2 Samuel 18:5,7,9,10,12,14,15,17,20,27,32,33, 2 Samuel 19:1-4, "the sword did not depart from his house" etc. There were more scriptures about his consequences _.
Queen Vashti, consequence Ester 1:19, Ester 2:4
Saul then 1 Samuel 28:3,7,18,19
David has Psalms of remorseful repentance, gives glory to GOD ALMIGHTY, shows mercy & humility at times. With Saul he shows remorse but didn't read much of repentance, etc.
The Ahimelek of 1 Samuel 26:6, the Hittite, was very likely one of David's warriors; a foreigner, one of many, who attached themselves to David, & particularly after David was made king. Others were Uriah the Hittite ( 2 Samuel 11); Ittai the Gittite ( 2 Samuel 15:19); plus the Cherethites & Pelethites; & those mentioned in 1 Chronicles 27:27-31. These recognized David's authority of kingship & were pleased to be subservient to him & come under the true God.
And the Ahimelek of 1 Samuel chapter 21, was a priest, whom King Saul accused of being in collaboration with his enemy David, and thus had him killed by Doeg. Ahimelek is the same one (called Abimelech in 1 Chronicles 18:16) & thought to be a scribal error.
To add to my comment, I hope the previous comment was clearly understood for that specific section of scripture referenced. However if you were trying to study David's decisions that looked 'cowardice' or atleast appearance of.
I think that I remember David for evrything else but his sins,I so remember 1Samuel Ch3vs13 “For I have told him that I am about to judge his house forever for the iniquity which he knew, because his sons brought a curse on themselves and he did not rebuke them.But in this case it was Davids own transgressions,We CAN NOT have GODs LOVE with out his WRATH as well,some only teach of 1 or the other.
(cont.); And we read the Psalms knowing that they are the Holy Spirit speaking about the inner life of the Anointed, and of all who love Him; and about all the adversity and afflictions that we are set to encounter, so much good and so much wealth of grace and knowledge of God no one seems to care about! Yet all that people (Christians) want to talk about or remember is the sin! That is shameful!
When we read everything else about David, and of how the LORD always referred to him as the EXAMPLE and MEASURE of a perfect walk with God all his days, for all his sons after him to compare to; its so very sad that people (Christians) only remember his sin. God said about David, "He is a man after mine own heart who shall fulfill all my will;" and that he shall be king of Israel forever.
Peter, all that you said is correct. You have quoted scripture correctly. God was not happy with David's horrorable sin and he did avenge Uriah. God absolutely forgave David, but he still choose to avenge the death of Uriah. Did David bring this upon himself.. Yes, he did. God did not judge David, but He did chastise Him. It is the thing He does to His elect even when He forgive us.
Thank you, Lu2677; Yes, I have written again on this to Peter, and I do also remember all the things Nathan said to David from God. David's life after was very different from before he sinned; and as God told him, there were very terrible consequences for his actions. Without starting a big defense, I was just thinking of the responsibility of the actual individuals (his sons) for their own sins.
A disciple, You asked Peter "is it all on David." Yes, what Peter is quoting is God telling David what is going to happen to him (David) because David murdered, and coveted another man's wife, adultery. David repented, he acknowledged that he sinned against God, but God avenged the man's death, and killed the baby, and gave David's wives to other men to lay with. God says it, I believe it. Read it
Hi Peter; Yes, you are right; and I was actually remembering that after I wrote you. Leviticus 26:40-45 speaks about this Law of God; how that when it comes to our time, and we actually repent and get saved; there's still all the defiance and sinning that has evolved over ages and generation that has brought about the punishments we know today; which we must accept as God's will, till Jesus comes.
Disciple:Please read 2 Samuel 12:10 "Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.11 I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel"
Peter; Are we supposed to think then, that when we truly repent and change, when we are really converted, and God says He forgives us and has taken away our sins and makes us new creations in Christ; that He doesn't really forgive, and He still punishes? What about the responsibility of the actual doers of the evil, i.e. his sons? Is it all on David because they are ungodly, and practice sin?
The blood of Uriah is avenging David as God promised. David's household is now in disarray. Much lesson to be learned in terms of disobeying God's commands and the dire consequences
It seems that God was dealing with David for not taking responsibility as a father when he found out that Amnon raped his sister This I am sure made Absolom very angry and took it upon himself to deal with his brother the way he did I too don t understand how David did not mete out punishment to his son Amnon
Being a person of some age and having been betrayed by people I have befriended from time to time helps me to identify with the feelings that David must have had toward Ahithophel, his once trusted counselor and confidant. The scene seems to be reflected in Psalm 55 where David deals with the pain of betrayal more openly (even angrily) and prophetically speaks to the manner in which Jesus would suffer betrayal by Judas. It also helps me to understand that being God's person is no guarantee against risks and being Christian involves learning to forgive even in a most hurtful circumstances, while still being open to love for those people who may conspire against me.
That great conspiracy of Absolom against King David his father even with David's Chief Adviser, Ahithophel is highly thought provoking. Though that was one of the judgments pronounced by God against David for his sin of killing and taking over Uriah's wife.
What strikes me here is that David had no faith anymore in his anointed by God status as king of Isreal. He never consulted God's prophet for counsel. He heard of Absalom's conspiracy against him and fled. Absalom was in Jerusalem for 40 years before doing this. David's faith in God during that time frame should have been like that tree planted by the waters and not been moved!Even David, the apple of God's eye was weak in spiritual matters, yet God loved him and sustained him! That gives all of us in Christ Jesus hope!
According to this verse, the boastful will not stand in God's presence. Those who praise themselves instead of God will not stand in God's presence. Psalm 1:5 mentions this fact too. It says, "the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous." Absalom, whom David was fleeing, was boastful and arrogant ( 2 Samuel 15:1-6).
Second Samuel 15:4 reports that he would say, "Oh that I were judge in the land! Then every man with a dispute or cause might come to me, and I would give him justice." Jesus told the story of a proud Pharisee who went to the temple and boasted about his self-righteousness but was rejected by God ( Luke 18:9-14). Jesus said, "Everyone who exalts himself will be humbled" ( Luke 18:14).
Scripture tells us God hates all evildoers (see also Psalm 11:5). The word "hate" may seem harsh, but we must try to understand how abhorrent evil is in God's eyes. Murderers, liars, and deceivers such as those who wanted to destroy David are totally detestable to God and therefore merit His righteous, holy hatred.
Mishael
I agree with Richard and this may also help.
The term is also used to describe a Hebrew custom which indicated deep sorrow. Upon the death of a relative or important personage, or when there was a great calamity, it was customary for the Hebrews to tear their garments. Reuben rent his clothes when he found that Joseph had been taken from the pit ( Genesis 37:29). The sons of Jacob rent their clothes when the cup was found in Benjamin's sack ( Genesis 44:13). A messenger came to Eli with his clothes rent to tell of the taking of the ark of God and of the death of his two sons ( 1 Samuel 4:12). David rent his garments when he heard that Absalom had slain his brothers ( 2 Samuel 13:31). See also 2 Samuel 15:32; 2 Kings 18:37; Isaiah 36:22; Jeremiah 41:5. Rending of clothes was also an expression of indignation. The high priest rent his garment when Jesus spoke what he thought was blasphemy ( Matthew 26:65).
God bless.
1 Samuel 24:4,5,6 , 1 Samuel 24:10,
Saul also ripped Samuel's garment 1 Samuel 15:27 however 1 Samuel 15:28-29. Even after remorseful repentance 1 Samuel 15:29,30,35
Do think the significance of the clothing was a factor? 1 Samuel 2:19, His mother's sacrifice 1 Samuel 1:28
Saul pursued David to kill him: 1 Samuel 19:1,10,11,15,
& Saul ordered the prophets of GOD killed, possibly unarmed, their families, livestock & nursing babies included.; 1 Samuel 22:17,18,19 Same Saul that left the enemy King & livestock alive in disobedience to GOD's orders. 1 Samuel 15:1,2,3,8,9,
Psalms 105:15
David's mercy 2 Samuel 9:3-7,
David's sin & judgement: 2 Samuel 12:7,9,11,12,14,18, 2 Samuel 13:1,6,7,8,12,13,14,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,28,29,30,31,32, after years 2 Samuel 14:25,30,31,32, 2 Samuel 15:6,10,12,13,14,16,23,30,31, 2 Samuel 16:3,5,6,7,8,11,13,22, 2 Samuel 17:21,23,29, 2 Samuel 18:5,7,9,10,12,14,15,17,20,27,32,33, 2 Samuel 19:1-4, "the sword did not depart from his house" etc. There were more scriptures about his consequences _.
Queen Vashti, consequence Ester 1:19, Ester 2:4
Saul then 1 Samuel 28:3,7,18,19
David has Psalms of remorseful repentance, gives glory to GOD ALMIGHTY, shows mercy & humility at times. With Saul he shows remorse but didn't read much of repentance, etc.
However the Bible says: 1 Colossians 1:20,
Job 12:16
Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
And the Ahimelek of 1 Samuel chapter 21, was a priest, whom King Saul accused of being in collaboration with his enemy David, and thus had him killed by Doeg. Ahimelek is the same one (called Abimelech in 1 Chronicles 18:16) & thought to be a scribal error.
1 Samuel 27 ,
2 Samuel 11
2 Samuel 15:14-37
Hope that's helpful in your studies
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