Concluding this first topic on God's attributes related to anger we also see the imprecatory Psalms; that is those Bible scriptures that plead with God for judgment to occur on our enemies. These verses sometimes are general in nature which David would say in his long struggle with Saul and those perusing Him. David is a good example for us of forgiveness in that regard; as Saul was cornered multiple times and because he was still recognized as the anointed king David didn't take the opportunity to slay him. Even at his death he mourned for him as we see in 2 Samuel 1. There was no PERSONAL vendetta here; much as there isn't with Christ who will rule and reign with justice ( Isaiah 11:3-4) but with righteousness; in other words He will work with God's direction and not let external circumstances skew the picture.
When studying God's anger our first reaction is to understand his attitude toward gross external manifestations of sin; which surely is the state of the world today more than ever. As I said in the last post He chastises all those he loves ( Heb. 12:6). God allowed collateral damage both with David's sin with Bathsheeba ( 2 Samuel 11:3-4) and with the census ( 2 Samuel 24:12). We find it illogical why many innocent had to die in such instances but David brought wars upon himself and others and many died in the second census incident with its after affects. Therefore it is following God's precepts as to HOW to worship and heeding His warnings against sin that are crucial. Saul began his fall by trying to offer a sacrifice himself in an unauthorized procedure as a king. ( 1 Samuel 13:8-14). David didn't trust God's strength when he took the census. This was much the reason Solomon fell as well; he hoarded gold and silver and foreign women as wives all which God warned about. (see 1 Kings 1:11; Deut. 17:17). Those who He loves go through the refining fire; let us pass the test so we can rejoice at the Bema Seat (2 Cor510
Hello Dorothea. Could you clarify whether you're referring to Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah ( 2 Samuel 11:3), or to the Queen of Sheba who came to visit King Solomon ( 1 Kings 10:1)?
Though to answer your questions, if either of these women only are being referred to, then neither were stoned or impregnated by Solomon, according to the Bible. As well, the Queen of Sheba returned to her country after her meeting with King Solomon ( 1 Kings 10:13). We're not told where the realm of Sheba is/was located, but the main choices are in modern Yemen and in Ethiopia.
THE CUSTOM OF FEET WASHING and JESUS - In Reply - 1 year ago
The Old Testament references ( Genesis 18:4; 19:2; 24:32; 43:24; Judges 19:21; 1 Samuel 25:41; 2 Samuel 11:8; Song of Solomon 5:3; Psalms 58:10) show that the washing of the feet was the first act on entering the tent or house after a journey. The Orientals wore only sandals, and this washing was refreshing as well as cleanly. In the case of ordinary people, the host furnished the water, and the guests washed their own feet, but in the richer houses, the washing was done by a slave. It was looked upon as the lowliest of all services ( 1 Samuel 25:41). Jesus pointedly contrasts Simon's neglect of even giving Him water for His feet with the woman's washing His feet with tears and wiping them with her hair ( Luke 7:44). On the last evening of His life, Jesus washed the disciples' feet ( John 13:1-16). Their pride, heightened by the anticipations of place in the Messianic kingdom whose crisis they immediately expected, prevented their doing this service for each other. Possibly the same pride had expressed itself on this same evening in a controversy about places at table. Jesus, conscious of His divine dignity and against Peter's protest, performed for them this lowliest service. His act of humility actually cleansed their hearts of selfish ambition, killed their pride, and taught them the lesson of love.
'There is more Scripture objectively condemning the use of alcoholic beverages than will be found on the subjects of lying, adultery, swearing, cheating, hypocrisy, pride, or even blasphemy.
1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the result was immorality and family trouble.
2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did not know what he was doing; this led to immorality
3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests not to drink so that they could tell the difference between the holy and the unholy.
4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat or drink nothing from the grape vine.
5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was stubborn and rebellious.
6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape juice to Israel nor did they have intoxicating drink in the wilderness.
7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of asps.
8) Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to drink wine or strong drink.
9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said she drank no wine.
10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a drunken spree.
11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk, David hoped to cover his sin.
12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk when he was killed.
13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking himself into drunkenness when he was assassinated
14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other kings were drinking when they were attacked and defeated by the Israelites.
15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all the drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated when he commanded the queen to come.
16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord's anger is pictured as mixed wine poured out and drunk by the wicked.
17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the wine of violence.
18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging.
19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.
Below is a daily devotion from InTouch.org. I believe it will help and encourage you to overcome your harmful desire to eat. You don't have to be a victim. Give your troubles and cares to the Lord and know He has a plan for your life. God bless you Thomas.
2 Samuel 11:1-5
Temptations can come at any time, but they are especially dangerous in periods of weakness because that's when we're more prone to yield. The Scriptures are filled with descriptions of men and women who sinned against the Lord in moments of vulnerability. These true stories are given to us for our instruction so we can learn from the mistakes of others ( 1 Corinthians 10:11).
While temptations come in a variety of forms, they follow a similar pattern. David's sin is a good example of this. His eye looked, his mind desired, and his will acted. Resistance is difficult in the best of times, but it's even more of a struggle during periods of anger, emptiness, idleness, or isolation-and that was the case for David, who should have been in battle instead of in Jerusalem ( 2 Samuel 11:1). At the end of the day, no matter what's creating the vulnerability, each person is responsible for his or her own actions.
In times of weakness, remember the acronym "HALT." Don't let yourself become too hungry, angry, lonely, or tired. Most importantly, fix your attention on the Lord and draw strength from Him through prayer. Use Scripture to guard your mind, and the Lord will give you victory over temptation.
Hi Bradford . I think you might have mixed your chapter up a bit . Have a look at 1st Samuel Ch 18 . I believe in that chapter , that Saul wanted such a ridiculous dowry for his daughter because he thought that David would be killed trying to fulfill the task .
Yes Bradford, King Saul did intend for David to be killed by the Philistines. You can read the account in 1 Samuel 18:17-29, where Saul's offer of his daughter Michal would be realized only if David went out to battle & return with proof of the death of one hundred Philistines. But David instead killed two hundred. Saul hoped that the Philistines would get the better of David & his men & that David would be killed, since Saul failed to do so in his several attempts. Saul now realized that "that the LORD was with David, and that Michal Saul's daughter loved him": verse 28.
But in the 2 Samuel 11 reference against your name, we read that King David himself behaved just as badly as his father-in-law & did sin grievously by sending Uriah into battle to have him killed because of the sin of adultery that David committed with Uriah's wife, Bathsheba. Unfortunately, on this occasion, the person sent out to battle was killed & David took Bathsheba to wife. But in 2 Samuel chapter 12, Nathan the prophet comes to David to alert him to his grievous sins (of adultery & murder) & we can also read Psalm 51 as David's declaration of repentance for his actions.
King David and Bathsheba's First Baby - 2 years ago
2 SAMUEL 11:
26 And when the wife of Uriah heard that Uriah her husband was dead, she mourned for her husband.
27 And when the mourning was past, David sent and fetched her to his house, and she became his wife, and bare him a son. But the thing that David had done DISPLEASED THE LORD.
2 SAMUEL 12:
14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
15 And NATHAN departed to his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.
16 David therefore besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night upon the earth.
18 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died. And the servants of David feared to tell him that the child was dead: for they said, Behold, while the child was yet alive, we spake unto him, and he would not hearken unto our voice: how will he then vex himself, if we tell him that the child is dead?
19 But when David saw that his servants whispered, David perceived that the child was dead: therefore David said unto his servants, Is the child dead? And they said, He is dead.
20 Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the LORD, and worshipped: then he came to his own house; and when he required, they set bread before him, and he did eat.
21 Then said his servants unto him, What thing is this that thou hast done? thou didst fast and weep for the child, while it was alive; but when the child was dead, thou didst rise and eat bread.
22 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?
Comment: this may be one time when a child died because ones actions. This is just something to consider. It bears no relevance to other comments. Mishael
The Greek word for "secret" means: "hidden", "hidden away, secret, stored up" (Strong's Concordance G614, "apokruphos"). This suggests that God sees everything ( Proverbs 15:3) and can reveal it as He pleases.
Proverb 15: 3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
So if a person does something sinful, wicked or deceitful, then God can bring it to light to others such as David's and Bathsheba's adultery ( 2 Samuel 11:9-10); hiding God's Law among rubbles in The Temple ( 2 Kings 22); or in modern times God's revealing of peoples' true, rich history (for example, aboriginal people throughout the world wrongfully made to look primitive and unintelligent despite their rich history and contributions to the world).
2 Kings 22:8 And Hilkiah the high priest said unto Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And Hilkiah gave the book to Shaphan, and he read it.
2 Kings 22:10 And Shaphan the scribe shewed the king, saying, Hilkiah the priest hath delivered me a book. And Shaphan read it before the king.
2 Kings 22:11 And it came to pass, when the king had heard the words of the book of the law, that he rent his clothes.
2 Kings 22:12 And the king commanded Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Achbor the son of Michaiah, and Shaphan the scribe, and Asahiah a servant of the king's, saying,
2 Kings 22:13 Go ye, enquire of the LORD for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found: for great is the wrath of the LORD that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us.
Lately, after reading the scriptural passages and reading the posts on this forum I find myself thinking of my own life. This is me, and I pray no one on this platform thinks I am pointing fingers at everyone else.
I thank the Lord for everyone who takes the time to post their thoughts and encouragement for all who come to this forum. The Lord be praised for His long suffering and mercies to me and all who seek Him. I know I should not sin, but when I repent my God is a Loving and a Forgiving God. Thank you Lord for your Word. 2 Timothy 3:16, 17. For your Holy Spirit in me and all who are yours. Ephesians 4:30.
Although it seems as if we are losing the battle, fret not, we win the war! As we used to say in school, I know because I read the last chapter of the book.
May the Lord bless all, and may we all follow hard unto the Lord God Jesus Christ.
Eric Lopez ,you are an absolute star ! You have taken me on a rollercoaster of a ride as i experience the books of Samuel through your excited commentary ,please dont stop ,i look for you every time i look on here , may God bring you closer to Him every day and may He fill your heart with His truth and love .
The simple answer to your question is repentance and prayer, knowing that only through faith in the Cross and all that it means, do we receive God's grace and mercy. I've been there and done that many times over the years, we've all fallen at one time or another, this is because of our human nature (sin) but I also believe that the Holy Spirit is there through our conscience to comfort us, and convict us when we've gone astray (that guilty feeling) and direct us back to the cross (the narrow road). If somehow we hurt one of our friends and realize our mistake we ask for forgiveness, and if we're genuine in our apology, our true friends will forgive us realizing that we all make mistakes. Throughout the bible we find man falling away from God, as David did with Bathsheba, another man's wife, 2 Samuel 11:3, or Manasseh in 2 Kings 21:14 - 21:17, but through repentance and prayer they again came to know God and all His mercies, and Paul who first persecuted the church became one of the greatest apostles for the church.
Throughout the NT you will read of Jesus teaching starting with Matthew Chapter 5-7, this is the start of Jesus ministry, the Beatitudes and sermon on the mount.
Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled."
Matthew 7:7 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:"
Abimelech was killed at Thebez by a woman, but he tried to prevent it from being true. Judges 9:54 Then he called hastily unto the youngman his armourbearer, and said unto him, "Draw thy sword, and slay me, that men say not of me, a woman slew him." And his youngman thrust him through, and he died. Now we can all say that Abimelech the son of Jerubbesheth was slaughtered at Thebez by a woman, because the truth came out, 2 Samuel 11:21" Who smote Abimelech the son of Jerubbesheth? Did not a woman cast a piece of a millstone upon him from the wall, that he died in Thebez?" (KJV bible) So this woman was only able to kill him because of his own stipidity and he obviously did not have an helmet on his head. Abimelech really was a bumbling idiot, who attacks towers without wearing any type of head protection? Who fights wars without wearing any type or kind of armour? Abimelech went down in history as a fool killed by a woman only because he had no helmet on his head so it deos not matter what gender the person was sho threw the stone upon his head from a fatal height and he was not paying attention, so his pothetic embarrassment was all in his mind. And Abimelech is going to hell for dying in his sins because Revelation 21:8 says" But the fearful and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake shich burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (KJV Bible)So Abimelech is in for a rude awakening, he should of thought about his soul instead of his legacy, the lesson to learn from his history is to not do the wrong thing and to repent of your sins and not to die in your sins. there are so many people like Abimelech who think that this world is all there is and once you die you are died forever and all you have is your legacy. But this is not true, there is a heaven and hell and i am going to heaven not to hell, so i will do everything to make to heaven!
No. He wasn't. In fact, he said in 2 Samuel 11:8, "and I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given thee such and such things."
In the very next verse, he makes it very clear that he was angry because David had "despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight" by having Uriah killed and taking his wife. This was the word of the LORD spoken by Nathan the prophet. But he probably wasn't too happy about David's committing adultery with her before that, either.
Neither the LORD (God, the Father) nor Jesus EVER condemned any man at any time for having more than one wife, although I'm sure there were plenty around that did, even in the time of Jesus. There are still polygamous marriages in some countries even today.
What Jesus said was that if a man put one wife away (divorced her) to marry another, except if she had committed fornication, he was guilty of adultery and causing her and any future husband she might have to commit adultery. You have to read all accounts of his discourse on divorce to see that he's talking about putting her away in order to marry another. These are found in Matthew 5:31&32, Matthew 19:9, Mark 10:11&12, and Luke 16:18. So we see that, if a man had five wives, he was okay, but he could not put one away so that he could marry another. Perhaps this meant so he could afford to marry another. I don't know. But he could put her away for fornication. Why didn't he say adultery? Because adultery carried an automatic death sentence in those days. No divorce was necessary.
Too, Mark 10:12 shows that a woman could also put away her husband, but was under the same rules as the man pertaining to divorce.
Verses 1,2~David did not go to battle, but he stayed home. When he stayed home temptation arose and he gave into it. We want to be busy in the work of God and not be idle.
I keep thinking about David and Bathesheba and Uriah, The early CHURCH WAS STILL MARRIED TO THE LAW,Thats y Paul is saying you are dead to the law by the body of Christ THAT YOU SHOULD BEMARRIED TO ANOTHER EVEN TO HIM THAT WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD.THIS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CHRIST AND CHURCH YIELDED A CHILD CALLED CHRISTIANITY WHICH WAS SICK AND DIED IN ITS INFANCY,BUT SHE TRAVAILED IN BIRTH AGAIN
No sin or iniquity is too big for God to forgive .The grace of God is so infinite that God later called David His friend after he had confessed and was forgiven .Oh how Great is your name Jehovah. Psalms 108 v 1.....
Ah,Oh No,David,We have all fell n2 temptation,temptation has come in many forms and is different unto each individual,I am glad we can repent,it is so important,for even if only 1 person repents,there is a AMEN from the KINGDOM,the savory sweetness that prayer brings unto the nose of the LORD,filling his nose and heart with happiness when his children repent,wether it be action,thought or verbal.
Anne; maybe you've seen these kinds of things; I sure have! Once sin takes hold, and the man changes his whole way of thinking and behavior, there is such a moral spiraling out of control that seems to never take an end; unless of course, the Lord intervenes to send His messenger to convict him; if perchance he might humble himself at the Word, and really repent. David's conversion was a miracle!
Yes, David sinned, adultery and murder,( 2 Samuel 11). 2 Samuel 12 David knew God was displeased with him, he repented. Nevertheless, God punished David by causing his new born son to be sick and die. Then God blessed David with another son; Solomon. And God loved Solomon.
Hi Irene; I was looking over some older posts, and I saw this one you wrote about complacency. Despite my previous answer, I do completely agree with you. "But David tarried still at Jerusalem." It is a lazy and indifferent spirit that seeks to lull us away from and out of our intense urgency and diligence in the Spirit. As a Prophet, our precious brother David knew better; but didn't look out.
Concluding this first topic on God's attributes related to anger we also see the imprecatory Psalms; that is those Bible scriptures that plead with God for judgment to occur on our enemies. These verses sometimes are general in nature which David would say in his long struggle with Saul and those perusing Him. David is a good example for us of forgiveness in that regard; as Saul was cornered multiple times and because he was still recognized as the anointed king David didn't take the opportunity to slay him. Even at his death he mourned for him as we see in 2 Samuel 1. There was no PERSONAL vendetta here; much as there isn't with Christ who will rule and reign with justice ( Isaiah 11:3-4) but with righteousness; in other words He will work with God's direction and not let external circumstances skew the picture.
When studying God's anger our first reaction is to understand his attitude toward gross external manifestations of sin; which surely is the state of the world today more than ever. As I said in the last post He chastises all those he loves ( Heb. 12:6). God allowed collateral damage both with David's sin with Bathsheeba ( 2 Samuel 11:3-4) and with the census ( 2 Samuel 24:12). We find it illogical why many innocent had to die in such instances but David brought wars upon himself and others and many died in the second census incident with its after affects. Therefore it is following God's precepts as to HOW to worship and heeding His warnings against sin that are crucial. Saul began his fall by trying to offer a sacrifice himself in an unauthorized procedure as a king. ( 1 Samuel 13:8-14). David didn't trust God's strength when he took the census. This was much the reason Solomon fell as well; he hoarded gold and silver and foreign women as wives all which God warned about. (see 1 Kings 1:11; Deut. 17:17). Those who He loves go through the refining fire; let us pass the test so we can rejoice at the Bema Seat (2 Cor510
Though to answer your questions, if either of these women only are being referred to, then neither were stoned or impregnated by Solomon, according to the Bible. As well, the Queen of Sheba returned to her country after her meeting with King Solomon ( 1 Kings 10:13). We're not told where the realm of Sheba is/was located, but the main choices are in modern Yemen and in Ethiopia.
1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the result was immorality and family trouble.
2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did not know what he was doing; this led to immorality
3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests not to drink so that they could tell the difference between the holy and the unholy.
4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat or drink nothing from the grape vine.
5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was stubborn and rebellious.
6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape juice to Israel nor did they have intoxicating drink in the wilderness.
7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of asps.
8) Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to drink wine or strong drink.
9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said she drank no wine.
10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a drunken spree.
11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk, David hoped to cover his sin.
12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk when he was killed.
13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking himself into drunkenness when he was assassinated
14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other kings were drinking when they were attacked and defeated by the Israelites.
15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all the drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated when he commanded the queen to come.
16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord's anger is pictured as mixed wine poured out and drunk by the wicked.
17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the wine of violence.
18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging.
19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.
20) Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes poverty.
21) Proverbs 23:29-30 -
Below is a daily devotion from InTouch.org. I believe it will help and encourage you to overcome your harmful desire to eat. You don't have to be a victim. Give your troubles and cares to the Lord and know He has a plan for your life. God bless you Thomas.
2 Samuel 11:1-5
Temptations can come at any time, but they are especially dangerous in periods of weakness because that's when we're more prone to yield. The Scriptures are filled with descriptions of men and women who sinned against the Lord in moments of vulnerability. These true stories are given to us for our instruction so we can learn from the mistakes of others ( 1 Corinthians 10:11).
While temptations come in a variety of forms, they follow a similar pattern. David's sin is a good example of this. His eye looked, his mind desired, and his will acted. Resistance is difficult in the best of times, but it's even more of a struggle during periods of anger, emptiness, idleness, or isolation-and that was the case for David, who should have been in battle instead of in Jerusalem ( 2 Samuel 11:1). At the end of the day, no matter what's creating the vulnerability, each person is responsible for his or her own actions.
In times of weakness, remember the acronym "HALT." Don't let yourself become too hungry, angry, lonely, or tired. Most importantly, fix your attention on the Lord and draw strength from Him through prayer. Use Scripture to guard your mind, and the Lord will give you victory over temptation.
But in the 2 Samuel 11 reference against your name, we read that King David himself behaved just as badly as his father-in-law & did sin grievously by sending Uriah into battle to have him killed because of the sin of adultery that David committed with Uriah's wife, Bathsheba. Unfortunately, on this occasion, the person sent out to battle was killed & David took Bathsheba to wife. But in 2 Samuel chapter 12, Nathan the prophet comes to David to alert him to his grievous sins (of adultery & murder) & we can also read Psalm 51 as David's declaration of repentance for his actions.
26 And when the wife of Uriah heard that Uriah her husband was dead, she mourned for her husband.
27 And when the mourning was past, David sent and fetched her to his house, and she became his wife, and bare him a son. But the thing that David had done DISPLEASED THE LORD.
2 SAMUEL 12:
14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
15 And NATHAN departed to his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.
16 David therefore besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night upon the earth.
18 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died. And the servants of David feared to tell him that the child was dead: for they said, Behold, while the child was yet alive, we spake unto him, and he would not hearken unto our voice: how will he then vex himself, if we tell him that the child is dead?
19 But when David saw that his servants whispered, David perceived that the child was dead: therefore David said unto his servants, Is the child dead? And they said, He is dead.
20 Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the LORD, and worshipped: then he came to his own house; and when he required, they set bread before him, and he did eat.
21 Then said his servants unto him, What thing is this that thou hast done? thou didst fast and weep for the child, while it was alive; but when the child was dead, thou didst rise and eat bread.
22 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?
Comment: this may be one time when a child died because ones actions. This is just something to consider. It bears no relevance to other comments. Mishael
1 Chronicles 26:27-28, 1 Chronicles 27:24,
Joab going outside of King David's orders, but for the good of David & Israel? 2 Samuel 18, 2 Samuel 19:1-8, 2 Samuel 24:1-3,
1 Chronicles 21:3, 1 Chronicles 21:6,
As Chris stated revenge, Joab had went after before: 1 Chronicles 11:6-8, 1 Chronicles 11:20, 2 Samuel 3:24-28, 2 Samuel 3:30,
1 Kings 1,
1 Kings 2:5-6, 1 Kings 2:22, 28-34,
Hopefully this is useful in your study
Proverb 15: 3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
So if a person does something sinful, wicked or deceitful, then God can bring it to light to others such as David's and Bathsheba's adultery ( 2 Samuel 11:9-10); hiding God's Law among rubbles in The Temple ( 2 Kings 22); or in modern times God's revealing of peoples' true, rich history (for example, aboriginal people throughout the world wrongfully made to look primitive and unintelligent despite their rich history and contributions to the world).
2 Kings 22:8 And Hilkiah the high priest said unto Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And Hilkiah gave the book to Shaphan, and he read it.
2 Kings 22:10 And Shaphan the scribe shewed the king, saying, Hilkiah the priest hath delivered me a book. And Shaphan read it before the king.
2 Kings 22:11 And it came to pass, when the king had heard the words of the book of the law, that he rent his clothes.
2 Kings 22:12 And the king commanded Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Achbor the son of Michaiah, and Shaphan the scribe, and Asahiah a servant of the king's, saying,
2 Kings 22:13 Go ye, enquire of the LORD for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found: for great is the wrath of the LORD that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us.
I thank the Lord for everyone who takes the time to post their thoughts and encouragement for all who come to this forum. The Lord be praised for His long suffering and mercies to me and all who seek Him. I know I should not sin, but when I repent my God is a Loving and a Forgiving God. Thank you Lord for your Word. 2 Timothy 3:16, 17. For your Holy Spirit in me and all who are yours. Ephesians 4:30.
Although it seems as if we are losing the battle, fret not, we win the war! As we used to say in school, I know because I read the last chapter of the book.
May the Lord bless all, and may we all follow hard unto the Lord God Jesus Christ.
Pray for those in Authority and also the lost.
July 2021
chambers of death.our sin will find us out, sin destroys but
jesus sets us free. repentance is key to sexual sin flee from
it .
Throughout the NT you will read of Jesus teaching starting with Matthew Chapter 5-7, this is the start of Jesus ministry, the Beatitudes and sermon on the mount.
Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled."
Matthew 7:7 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:"
In the very next verse, he makes it very clear that he was angry because David had "despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight" by having Uriah killed and taking his wife. This was the word of the LORD spoken by Nathan the prophet. But he probably wasn't too happy about David's committing adultery with her before that, either.
Neither the LORD (God, the Father) nor Jesus EVER condemned any man at any time for having more than one wife, although I'm sure there were plenty around that did, even in the time of Jesus. There are still polygamous marriages in some countries even today.
What Jesus said was that if a man put one wife away (divorced her) to marry another, except if she had committed fornication, he was guilty of adultery and causing her and any future husband she might have to commit adultery. You have to read all accounts of his discourse on divorce to see that he's talking about putting her away in order to marry another. These are found in Matthew 5:31&32, Matthew 19:9, Mark 10:11&12, and Luke 16:18. So we see that, if a man had five wives, he was okay, but he could not put one away so that he could marry another. Perhaps this meant so he could afford to marry another. I don't know. But he could put her away for fornication. Why didn't he say adultery? Because adultery carried an automatic death sentence in those days. No divorce was necessary.
Too, Mark 10:12 shows that a woman could also put away her husband, but was under the same rules as the man pertaining to divorce.