Discuss 2 Samuel 10

  • Bronco wildtrak 1 - 2 weeks ago
    The three harvest.

    1. Barley , Jesus Christ

    Ruth 1:22

    So Naomi returned, and Ruth the Moabitess, her daughter in law, with her, which returned out of the country of Moab: and they came to Bethlehem in the beginning ofbarleyharvest.

    2 Kings 4:42

    And there came a man from Baalshalisha, and brought the man of God bread of the firstfruits, twenty loaves ofbarley, and full ears of corn in the husk thereof. And he said, Give unto the people, that they may eat.

    2. Wheat , Second Coming

    John 12:24

    Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn ofwheatfall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

    1 Samuel 6:13

    And they of Bethshemesh were reaping theirwheatharvest in the valley: and they lifted up their eyes, and saw the ark, and rejoiced to see it.

    Matthew 13:30

    Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather thewheatinto my barn

    3. Grapes , Wrath of God

    Revelation 14:18

    And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for hergrapesare fully ripe.

    Isaiah 5:2

    And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forthgrapes, and it brought forth wildgrapes.

    Mark 15:23

    And they gave him to drinkwinemingled with myrrh: but he received it not.

    Matthew 26:29

    But I say unto you, I will notdrinkhenceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when Idrinkit new with you in my Father's kingdom.

    Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
  • Richard H Priday - 4 weeks ago
    Pride continued

    I wouldn't hesitate to say that for Moses to be the only one who spoke to God face to face at such an intimate level; and David being a man after God's own heart ( 1 Samuel 13:14) that surely God could be said to be proud of His creation in some respect.

    Any success or rewards come from an individual submitted to the Spirit and operating in God's strength rather than their own.

    Nonetheless there are thrones and crowns in heaven, which will no doubt relate to levels of authority in the next life for at least the Millennium and perhaps for all eternity.

    To fulfill a purpose in life ties into the good works predestined for us from the beginning of the world ( Eph. 2:10). To be considered exalted takes discipline to deny self and wisdom not to get in the way of the Lord. We all should take heart in the fact that God knows all our suffering ( Psalm 56:8). We also know the reason for all struggles is to accomplish His purposes ultimately so we don't have to view things as useless suffering or as the lost who have no hope after this life's struggles.

    Perseverance and patience results in rewards ( 2 Tim. 4:8 and supporting verses).

    Exaltation probably is understood as a similar word to pride; neither make any sense if it is self doing it. Only God in His perfection DESERVES acclamation and can be proud (if I can use that term); the best example would be the Father's exaltation of the Son after His obedient sufferings making the atoning sacrifice for men that He was predestined to save. Even with the Godhead it would be strange if Christ said He was proud of the Father and even more so with the Spirit making such a claim.

    We of course are just dust with an outer tabernacle as it were soon to pass. As corrupted as our bodies are; our souls no doubt in God's site are far worse ( Mark 7:21-22 for laundry list). If Christ in His humbled state is referred to in Psalm 22:6 as a worm how much more so were we before being redeemed? Self pride is dumb.
  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    1 Chronicles 21:18-22

    18 The angel of the Lord told Gad to tell David to go and set up an altar to the Lord on the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite. 19 David went up according to the directive from Gad, which he had spoken in the name of the Lord.

    20 While Ornan was threshing wheat, he turned and saw the angel. Ornan and his four sons hid themselves.

    David Builds an Altar

    21 As David approached Ornan, Ornan looked up and saw David. He went out from the threshing floor and bowed to David with his face to the ground. 22 David said to Ornan, "Give me the site of the threshing floor. I will build an altar to the Lord on it. You will give it to me for full price, and the plague will be averted from the people."

    The Jebusites were one of the peoples Israel was to wipe out according to Deuteronomy 20:17. Nonetheless; God's will was for David to build an altar to the Lord at the site that this individual resided. We note in the verses immediately after this passage Ornon's willingness to give David the land and animals needed for sacrifice but David knew better and insisted it should cost him something.

    There is another incident in 2 Samuel where Uriah the Hittite was sinned against because of David's adultery with his wife; and subsequent "self fulfilling prophecy" of his demise on the battle field essentially being a planned murder. Only God's grace could cover over these sins; and it would leave scars on David's life as was the other aforementioned incident in Chronicles when David insisted on a census rather than trusting God for victory and not in numbers. Once again in this example the Hittites were to be wiped out as enemies of God but this man was clearly loyal to the king and at least followed Godly principles above and beyond the norm. We also as with many other verses see how the marriage covenant is honored among pagans; making actions such as Henry the eighth to absolve himself through divorce and murder of his wives vile sins.
  • Jrolao77@yahoo.com - 4 months ago
    In Matthew 18:20 - For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    I ask that you pray in agreement with me for the following:

    Lily - salvation spirit of darkness broken off her and home her job and relationships with family

    Jr - salvation spirit of pride and confusion broken off him his home his relationship his health and finances

    Archer and Aris - wisdom and holy spirit guidance, peace

    Samuel - spirit of unforgiveness broken off and doubt and darkness broken off him and every area in his life

    Sonia and Tristan - pray for breakthrough and salvation and free from bondage

    Me - healing, financial breakthrough, husband that is godly and loves the lord and family, my job, my mind and every area of his life, all debt paid off, new house and car

    family - those who are lost and not serving for their salvation and same for my friends
  • Jackieboy80 - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Here are just a few scriptures that came into my mind after I read your reply to me .

    Exodus Ch4 V 10-12 .

    1st Samuel Ch 19 V 18-24 .

    Isaiah Ch 50 V 2-9 and Ch 51 V 15+16 .

    Jeremiah Ch 31 V 33 and Ch 32 V 27 .

    Hebrews Ch 8 V 8-11 .

    Luke Ch 2 V 42-52 and Ch 12 V 11+12 and Ch 21 V 12-15 and all of Ch 24 .

    John Ch 6 V 29-44 and Ch 7 V 14-18 and Ch 8 V 38 + V 47 and all of Ch 14 .

    Acts Ch 2 V 1-21 and Ch 4 V 13-20 .

    2nd Corinthians Ch 1 V 12 .

    2nd Peter Ch 1 V 19-21.

    Proverbs Ch 3 V 5-7 .

    Revelation Ch 22 V 18+19 .

    Hope these are helpful to you in your understanding of how God is able to bring to Himself any of us , by His Power , Might and His Holy Spirit of Truth , without the help of any of us .
  • ByHISgrace - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Loretta, I am sorry to hear about this major challenge, it must be terrible for you. I am going to pray for you. But I am also going to give you some practical steps to take. I shall divide the response into two parts. Part A & Part B.

    PART A:

    Loretta, As challenging as it is YAH/GOD is well able [ Daniel 3:17]. Also you were born for a time like this [ Esther 4:14 ]so the ability to conquer this in YESHUA/ JESUS Name has been placed in you from even before the foundation of the world [ Ephesians 1:4].

    You are at war. The first thing you need to do is:- develop a warrior's mindset. A warrior in YESHUA knows that YAH said HE would fight for you and you will hold your peace. [ Exodus 14:14].that the battle is HIS [ 2 Chronicles 20:17] that HE is a man of war [ Exodus 15:3] That HE has given you the power to trample on snakes and scorpions and all the power of the enemy and nothing in no way can hurt you [ Luke 10:19] That the battle has already been won [ Colossians 2:15] When you speak HIS Word you are only reinforcing the victory.



    Be obedient as disobedience is witchcraft [ 1 Samuel 15:23]. It gives the devil legal rights. So if YAH/GOD has told you to do something, do it. At least 50 % of your problems would cease because YAH/GOD /would back you up when you are obedient to HIS Will.

    The neighbor has studied you and tried you to see who you are and what he can get away with. As he studied you and has a 'file' on you; you now need to study him and create a file on him. And regarding the things you discover, take every thing you find out about him to YAH in prayer. Always ask YAH/GOD to "Uproot the confidence of the wicked []

    Stop the demon neighbor's actions with prayers. For example he knows when you are going to bathe and he abuses you. Prepare for him. He expects you to do the normal and he expects to get away with it. So find several right bible verses. Write them out in a book.
  • Poppybrown75 - 5 months ago
    Psalm 18:2

    "The Lord is my rock, my fortress, and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold."

    2 Samuel 22:33

    "It is God who arms me with strength and keeps my way secure."

    Matthew 11:28

    "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."

    Psalm 118:14

    "The Lord is my strength and my defense; He has become my salvation.

    Deuteronomy 31:8

    "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."

    Jeremiah 32:17

    "Ah, Sovereign Lord, you have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and outstretched arm. Nothing is too hard for you."

    Psalm 28:7

    "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and he helps me. My heart leaps for joy, and with my song I praise him."

    Thessalonians 5:11

    "Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.

    Psalm 121:1-2

    "I lift up my eyes to the mountains-where does my help come from? My help comes from the Lord, the Maker of heaven and earth."

    Isaiah 41:10

    "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

    Exodus 15:2

    "The Lord is my strength and my song; he has given me victory. This is my God, and I will praise him-my father's God, and I will exalt him."

    Joshua 1:9

    "Be strong and courageous; do not be frightened and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go."

    Isaiah 40:29

    "He gives power to the weak and strength to the powerless."

    "Surely God is my salvation; I will trust and not be afraid. The Lord, the Lord, is my strength and my song; he has become my

    salvation."ened and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go

    COME THY LORD JESUS
  • Bennymkje - 5 months ago
    Q&A "kingdom of priests"

    Q: in view of God's word, the Psalm quote, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek" what does Ex.19:6 signify?

    A: Precisely what it says."And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.". God blessed man in his Son so whether he is addressing Abraham or a nation it shall be unto God only is in the Son. Consider the Lord was about to give the ten commandments and a priesthood which was merely pendent to the stone tables, symbolic of the Law of the Spirit. The nation of Israel rejected the offer when they demanded Samuel for a king. Judge Samuel enquires of the Lord and he says,"And theLordsaid unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them."(1 Sa.8:7-8). In v.8 the Spirit uses the phrase 'unto this day' which is a key to the everlasting covenant that it has not been laid aside or annulled. "According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods,."

    In the light of this let us go back to the Psalm quote:"TheLordsaid unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." Who are these enemies but the nation of Israel? In Re. we see the New Jerusalem descending from heaven to mid-air. The footstool (Is.66:1) is as God says , (Re.21:24

    Without understanding the role of the everlasting covenant one may ever learn but shall never come to knowledge of the truth. "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.". They have a form of godliness but in glossing over the deity and power of Christ they are precisely what St Paul had in mind, "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."(2 Ti.3:1-7)
  • Jackieboy80 - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Ecclesiastes chapter 9 verses 11+12 , 1st Samuel chapter 17 , 2nd Chronicles chapter 20 , Proverbs chapter 3 verses 5+6 .

    If God be for us , who can be against us .

    There are many examples in the Old Testament , of God saving the Israelites from their enemies . Read in particular the books of Samuel , Kings and Chronicles .

    The ' arm ' is your confidence , your strength , putting your confidence in the flesh is a mistake .

    God saves , literally , metaphorically and spiritually , He is our strength and we should only ever trust in Him , not in our own powers or in the powers of others , governments , armies , politicians etc . They and we , are just people . God is all powerful and can do as He wishes with any of us . If we loose a battle we have to accept defeat and assume that it was / is God's will that we loose a battle , maybe we were in the wrong , maybe God has other plans for us .

    If our ways are not in accordance with His will , then He will let us know and we have to accept His judgements upon us .
  • Bennymkje - 6 months ago
    Matt.25:31-33 "Goats" (2 of 2)

    When Jesus said, " Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers." (23:32) they had choice of their fathers like Moses or Samuel. But they did not. " Though Moses and Samuel stood before me, yet my mind could not be toward this people: cast them out of my sight, and let them go forth."(Je.15:2) This brings us to the significance of the scapegoat. This commandment came after the two sons of Aaron died for impiety. "And the Lord spake unto Moses after the death of the two sons of Aaron, when they offered before the Lord, and died."(Le.16:1) Scapegoat or Azaelel was a testimony that they did not purge their sins for want of true repentance on their part. Their sin was ever before them. The writer to the Hebrews also concur with David's cry."and my sin is ever before me./Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight."(Ps.51:3-4) Because of bad faith Yom kippur is only in name.

    In the parable "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:/And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:/And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left." Goats on the left has only one place to go. "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment."(v.46)
  • Jackieboy80 - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Isaiah Ch 11 verses 1-4 , Jeremiah Ch 32 verses 26+27 , Ezekiel Ch 18 V 4 and 1st Samuel Ch 16 V 7 .
  • Bennymkje - 6 months ago
    Re.6:1-8 "Fourth part of the earth" (2 of 2)

    We have this passage to assure us where our safety lies. "Then said the Lord unto me, Though Moses and Samuel stood before me, yet my mind could not be toward this people: cast them out of my sight, and let them go forth.

    2 And it shall come to pass, if they say unto thee, Whither shall we go forth? then thou shalt tell them, Thus saith the Lord; Such as are for death, to death; and such as are for the sword, to the sword; and such as are for the famine, to the famine; and such as are for the captivity, to the captivity.

    3 And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the Lord: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy.

    4 And I will cause them to be removed into all kingdoms of the earth, because of Manasseh the son of Hezekiah king of Judah, for that which he did in Jerusalem."

    The third rider on the black horses hold a pair of balances and does it make the wicked change their ways? For them business is business. "A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."

    God makes His will clear and the manner the Evangelicals have abused His word to further agenda, serving God and mammon shall not endure. "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people./Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,/And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."(2 Co.6:16-18)
  • GiGi - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Samuel,

    I am very happy to pray for you today.
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 7 months ago
    I did a search using the phrase seed of woman and am understanding that many scriptures seem to be implying that the seed of a woman is the conception itself, since the seed of a woman has the potential to grow into a child.

    These are two of the scriptures I found:

    "And Eli blessed Elkanah and his wife, and said, The LORD give thee seed of this woman for the loan which is lent to the LORD. And they went unto their own home." 1 Samuel 2:20 KJV

    "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." Leviticus 12:2 KJV

    There are some other scripture also that reference seed as just being of a man, however biologically a seed in futile soil will grow to its full potential given the right environment and a seed of a woman will develop into another human being (unborn child).
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    1 Samuel 15:23

    23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    GOD's Kingdom is among us,not as a ruler of the world though the Power that it has,it yet is not ruling the nations,quite the opposite, who really is ruling them in whole world is the Devil- Luke 4:5-7-,he offered it to JESUS saying:All this power will I give thee,and the glory of them:for that is delivered unto me;and to whomsoever I will I give it.

    The world is in the way the Devil likes,so where is the Kingdom of GOD?The Kingdom of GOD MUST be conquered in LITERAL fulfillment of Revelation 6:1-2; 11:15-18; 12:10-12,take a look.By the way,where is the warriors of GOD's Kingdom?Sleeping?Or,by analogy,being guided by the angel of Sardis or Laodiceans- Revelation 3:1-6&14-19?Terrible,so terrible as happened in the Samuel's time: 1Samuel 5:1-2 & 13:22-23,take a look.The people of GOD MUST awake though it be midnight,we are living in perilous times:2Tim.3:1-This know also,that in the last days perilous times shall come.But here's the promise of our GOD?

    Ps.91:

    5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night;

    nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

    6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness;

    nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

    7A thousand shall fall at thy side,

    and ten thousand at thy right hand;

    but it shall not come nigh thee.

    8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

    9...thou has made the Lord...most High,thy habitation;

    10There shall no evil befall thee,neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

    11He shall give His angels charge over thee,to keep thee in all thy ways.

    12They shall bear thee up in their hands,lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

    13Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder:..and the DRAGON shalt thou trample under feet( Revelation 12:9-11)

    14...therefore will I deliver him:I will set him on high,because he hath known my name.

    15He shall call upon me,and I will answer him:I will be with him in trouble;I will deliver him,and honour him

    16With long life will I satisfy him,and shew him my salvation
  • Jesse - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Luke (Part 3):

    Luke 1:45 - And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.

    This word blessed here is different from the same word used in Luke 1:42. The word here is MAKARIA, which is the feminine form, and it means to experience the fullness of something. The first two words in Luke 1:42 for blessing were to speak well of or to speak good about, but this one here means to experience the fullness.

    This is something we don't catch in our English bibles.

    Luke 1:47 - And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

    The word rejoiced is not the normal Greek word. This is the word for celebration, the same word as Hannah started off in 1 Samuel 2:1, when Hannah prayed and said "My heart rejoiceth.

    Again, that's the word celebration, in the Lord. My horn is exalted in the LORD. My mouth is enlarged over my enemies, because I rejoice, I celebrate, in Thy salvation. So, both women begin their songs with celebration.

    But look what Mary says in the content in Verse 47. My spirit celebrates in whom? God my Savior! She has an awareness already that she needs a Savior. That means that she has an awareness that she's a sinner and needs a Savior just like everyone else does.

    Please keep that in mind about Mary. We don't want to put her down, but we want her put her in her place and realize that she is blessed among women, but she is still a sinner like you and I, and she needs a Savior.

    Luke 1:48 - For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

    She says, for he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: Handmaiden is the word DOULAE, the feminine form of DOULOS for servant (or slave).
  • Giannis - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Hi Bennymkje

    I think the genealogy of Jesus listed in Matthew 1 has the purpose of showing to us that He descends from King David, thus Jesus was the fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham. If you notice carefully the list says that all the generations from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations. Which are not. If one checks the list of kings during that period of time from the books of Kings they would realize that the list ommits few kings in order to end up with the number 14. I don't know why Matthew did that. Maybe because he wanted to end up with 3 sums of 14. Maybe for easeness to remember? But the list is not precise. Also we don't know where he got Jesus' genealogy after the Hebrews were brought to Babylon. Where there written records of generations in the Hebrew state written records? Did Matthew manipulate those records as well so to come up again with the number 14? Or not? Who knows?

    The Christian Bible since ancient times, borrowed the titles of the various books of the Old Testament from the Septuagint. So even Bibles which use the Masoretic text still use the Septuagint titles. And they just translitarated the names from grk to English. So: Genesis-Genesis, Exodos(Exit)-Exodus, Arithmoi(numbers)-Numbers, Levitikon-Leviticus, Deuteronomion(Second Law)-Deuteronomy and so on. There are few differences though with the Septuagint. Those are: Jesus of Naui-Joshua(of Nan), Song of Songs-Song of Solomon, Also Samuel 1 and Samuel 2 are Kings 1 and Kings 2 in the Sept. And Kings 1 and Kings 2 are Kings 3 and Kings 4 in the Sept. Also the christian bibles follows the order of the books in the Sept. which is different from the order of books in the Masoretic.

    The title of the first book in Hebrew is "Beresit" which means "in the begining" and was translated by the Sept as "Genesis". The very precise meaning of Genesis is "making form the begining" and it refers to the creation of the physical world from the very begining. GBU
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Hi Becca.sue,

    Does our soul live on after we die? Do the souls of the dead roam around on the earth and some are in heaven and some are in hell? This is my understanding, the thought or belief in ghosts or spirits of people, some going to heaven and some going to hell comes from the teaching that the soul is immortal, and the soul never dies. It started when the serpent told Eve you shall not surely die, many ancient nations had different forms of religious beliefs on the immortality of the soul, and what we see today was adopted from Greek philosophy.

    Are there evil spirits, devils, and demons on this earth? Yes, and these are what people are encountering, my understanding of the Bible they are not the souls of people. God told Israel and it applies to us today, not to deal with mediums or spiritualism those who work divination. We see Saul doing it in 1 Samuel 28 and he died because he did it, 1 Chronicles 10:13.

    We sleep in death when we die Psalm 13:3 Matthew 27:52 John 11:11-14 1 Corinthians 15:20. We only put on immortality when we are resurrected, Job 14:13-14 Daniel 12:2 1 John 5:28-29 Corinthians 15:51-54. I hope this helps but you and your husband study it for your understanding, not mine.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Bennymkje - 8 months ago
    Is.60:1-3 "Restoration"

    "And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising."

    The entire chapter numbered 60 of Isaiah serves as pendent to the first 10 verses of Is.40. Thy light refers to Zion which is in heaven. "The mighty God, even the Lord, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof./Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined".(Ps.50:1-2) But did the nation of Israel care? When God brought them from Egypt with a mighty arm, they murmured. They loathed the angel's food. Then they asked for a king to rule them as other nations. So God commanded Samuel to hearken to their demand. They had rejected their God. It was part of their warfare.

    "Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished."(Is.40:2).

    In the manner they rejected the prophets send to them elicited this from their 'Messiah' woe to ye, he lamented. (Matt.23:31-36). They rejected the true Light and what was the point? "There was no light in them. (Is.8:20). It was to them Jesus asked, "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"(Matt.32:32). So they were cast off and only when the finally realize their folly, the Spirit speaks through the prophet, "Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee." The light of revelation did not come from within but from above. They were received as the Gentile nations because of holiness. "Be ye holy. for I am holy' in other times fell on deaf ears but Zion and New Jerusalem as one, qualified as the light of the Lamb. "And the Lamb is the light thereof./And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it./And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day."(Re.21:23-25) cf."Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night;"(Is.60:11)
  • Jaz - In Reply - 9 months ago
    You make a very good point that I can't and won't argue with . I have always thought that the reason Michal did not have children to David ( 2nd Samuel chapter 6 ) was not because of her reaction to David's dancing , even though that's what the narrative states . I think that it was because if David had had children with her then they would have also been Saul's grandchildren . I think it can be very easy for us to just read the words in the Bible without thinking too much about them from a human perspective , I always try to put myself in others shoes and see how I would feel or what I might think if I was there . That means that I might get things wrong sometimes but sometimes I think I can see beyond the words . The life of David is a bit like a really well written soap opera , full of twists and turns , but you are of course correct , as David himself says : God directs his feet . God bless you too .
  • Jaz - In Reply - 9 months ago
    More about David's cunning at getting what he wants by manipulation , in 2nd Samuel ch 17 v 25 , Absalom makes his own biological cousin , Amasa ,captain of the host , once Absalom's rebellion is quashed and David is back as the King , he demotes Joab and makes Amasa his nephew captain of his host . Again I'm guessing that David would have known how Joab would react to this and do his dirty work for him . It wouldn't look good for David to kill his own nephew so he enrages Joab , in the best way he knows how and sits back knowing what Joab will do about that . In 1st Kings Ch 2 v 1-9 , David instructs Solomon to kill all those people who he himself would have liked to have killed but it wasn't expedient for him to have done so . Joab is David's puppet , it started with Uriah and David believes he can manipulate Joab any way he wants to and for a very long time Joab is faithful .

    David was a man , a man of war and passion . Clever , cunning and manipulative . A true servant of God , full of love and zeal for God and a determination to serve God to the best of his faith and privilege and responsibilities . For me , he had the edge over Solomon because he only married one strange wife , an Egyptian lady and I'm guessing this was a political marriage and although he had many wives he didn't allow them to turn his heart away from God . The Kingdom of Israel under Solomon may be a foreshadow of the Kingdom to come but it is marred by Solomon allowing himself to be led astray . In his writings he often blames women for the downfall of men but his own lust and weakness is to blame and I'm sure he eventually recognised this , judging by his heartfelt repentance in Ecclesiastes .

    Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter : Fear God and keep His commandments : for this is the whole duty of man . I find David's life fascinating , he's so very human and he loves God so very much .
  • Jaz - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Yes ! That a great verse . I'm assuming that 3 different scribes penned the books of Samuel , the books of Kings and the books of Chronicles . Each of them may have brought their own political and social biases with them , which is only human .

    Whoever penned that verse was ignoring David's failure to punish his own son , who raped David's own daughter , according to God's laws .

    One glaring inconsistency concerns what happened to Saul's body and how David reacted to what happened , depending on which book you are reading . In 1st Samuel chapter 31 verses 11-13 we read what the valiant men of Jabesh-Gilead did . In 2nd Samuel chapter 2 verses 5-7 we get David's favourable response to their actions .

    Let's jump on to 2nd Samuel chapter 21 , a very interesting chapter all round but let's go straight to verse 12 , where it seems a different attitude prevails .

    About chapter 21. It is another example of how David manipulates the situation in order to circumvent the promise that he made to Saul in 1st Samuel chapter 24 verses 21+22 . In 2nd Samuel ch 2 v 8 we discover that Abner is Saul's biological cousin and Ch 2 and 3 give us an account of what went on between Joab and Abner (Saul's cousin ) . It seems to me that Joab is right in his estimation of Abner's character and motives but David will have none of it , he treats Abner as a friend , in my opinion he knows full well how Joab will react and behave in this situation , in fact he's counting on Joab to do what he knows he can't do because of his promise to Saul . My theory can be backed up by David's behaviour in 2nd Samuel ch 21 v 1-11. He appears to condone human sacrifice as he arranges the murders of Saul's two sons and five grandsons on the pretext of appeasing the Gibeonites , who aren't even of Israel . Just what David wanted to do but could not because of his oath . Mephibosheth is the last son of Saul and he's a cripple , David keeps a close eye on him and his only son Micha who is mentioned only once .
  • Shantel - 9 months ago
    2 Samuel 23:1 Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse SAID, and the man who was raised up on high SAID, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, SAID,

    2 Samuel 23:1 The Spirit on the LORD (Christ the Spirit of prophecy) SPAKE BY ME, and HIS WORDS were in my tongue.

    Revelation 19:19 .... for the words of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy .......

    All the words in the bible are the words of CHRIST.

    All the Psalms are the WORDS of Christ, not David, all the words in the Psalms are prophecies of the kingdom of God.

    Man's teachings have destroyed TRUTH.

    God Bless You as TRUTH and LIGHT destroys DARKNESS, the works of Satan.
  • Shantel - 9 months ago
    1 Chronicles 21:1 And SATAN stood upon against Israel and CAUSED David to number Israel.

    2 Samuel 24:1 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and HE (God) moved (CAUSED) David against them to say, Go, number Israel, and Judah.

    God Bess You
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Really the transfiguration answers all these questions. These were in the case of Elijah someone translated who never died; and Moses someone who died but whose burial spot was hidden. Nonetheless; they conversed with each other and with Christ and in some way were made known to the 3 Apostles who saw it (Peter; James and John I believe).

    One could argue that Samuel was truly brought up as he spoke the truth to Saul and the witch also seemed shocked. We also have Lazarus and the rich man in hades who also conversed along with Moses again from what I remember.

    Finally; we have the saints under the altar in heaven asking how long until justice comes and they were told until their fellowservants deaths were complete. We also will rule and reign with Christ; David will be also there ruling as well and obviously in some way recognizable. We also can look to the conversation of John with a fellowservant (either an angel or a deceased believer) as further evidence.

    I feel it is necessary to explore this subject based on first of all the fact that only saved people are in heaven. What is most important is their unique gifting and the fruit of their service as the real essence or meaning of recognition. The outer appearance of course and the old nature is what man sees dying in this present world as we all turn to dust; the fallen state of the soul also is destined for eternity in darkness and confusion. Having been conformed to His image brings uniqueness and meaningfulness to our eternal relationships there.

    Hope this helps.

    Agape; Rich P
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Hey Giannis,

    Thanks for your reply, I know many have the understanding the sons of God in Genesis 6 are the line of Seth and the daughters of men are of Cain and those not following God. I will just give a little of my understanding not in debate.

    Scripture tells us there were Nephilim/giants in the world before and after the flood Genesis 6:4 2 Samuel 21:16 Joshua 12:4 Numbers 13:33 Deuteronomy 2:19-21 Amos 2:9 Also in Joshua 13, 15, 17, 18, 2 Samuel 21 and 1 Chronicles 20 Also, in the Old Testament, there is the Rephaim or Rephaites, and the context describes them as giants. so, where did they come from?

    2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 1: 6 tell us of a group of angels who left their first estate and are locked in darkness. Many other fallen angels we battle including Satan are on this earth 2 Corinthians 11:14-15. But these angels are locked in darkness until judgment, and we see in Revelation 9:11 they have a king. These angels had to do something far greater than rebelling against God, my understanding is they adulterated God's creation, we see how corrupt it got.

    We know from Jude and 2 Peter angels sinned, kept not their first estate, and left their habitation. Estate means condition, status, and dominion, and habitation means residence or dwelling place. I understand how many takes Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25 but Jesus is not referring to sex He is saying when we are resurrected, we will be like the angels in heaven who are immortal. We are mortal, we have to marry and reproduce when we are resurrected, we will be raised immortal same as the angels no more need to marry and reproduce, and we will be on the earth not heaven.

    We see angels come down on earth that have bodies, they can eat and drink, Genesis 18:1-8 and other places like Hebrews 13:2. To me the angels who left their estate is where these giants came from, and we see when Israel went into the promised land God wiped out the giants or had them kill them all even the children.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • SeanPaul - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Thanks you for explaining the difference and use of the name and by whom, Now I know the difference. I don't think Bible hub will burn as I was only translating Old Testament, and the Old Testament was given in Hebrew and was given to them as there laws in Hebrew.

    In KJV there are 3 different uses of the name. LORD and Lord and lord. Psalms 110:1(A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. I think this explains it best.

    KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2 , Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD = GOD JEHOVAH, LORD GOD of Israel

    KJV Psalms 110:1, Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1 Lord = Jesus

    KJV 2 Samuel 24:3, Luke 16:5 lord = a King or one of authority

    I actually found the Psalms answer on u-tube form someone studying the KJV 1611 he was proving the KJV is the true word of GOD and just so happened to answer my question at the same time. I added these verses I found because I didn't mention any books or verses in my original question because it is every translation in Old Testament I compared no matter which book or verse. And I also found this.

    Yahweh is the name of Israel's God and the God who came to earth as Jesus Christ, Yahweh in the flesh. Matthew 1:21 says, "She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins." The name Jesus is from the Latin form of the Greek form of Yeshua, which literally means "Yahweh saves." So Yahweh will save His people from their sins, and simultaneously Jesus will save His people from their sins. This is just one of many instances where Jesus and Yahweh are equated.
  • Terry - 10 months ago
    Revelation Chapter 22 :1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

    James 4:14 "Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away."

    James

    Chapter 4:14:"Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away."

    And she said, Oh my lord, as thy soul liveth, my lord, I am the woman that stood by thee here, praying unto the LORD. 1 Samuel 1:26

    2 Timothy 1:12 I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
  • Richard H Priday - 10 months ago
    Futher insights on prayer in regard to spiritual warfare.

    INTERCESSORY prayer is something which frankly I haven't really studied in the Old Testament; but is also an important if not necessary act of spiritual warfare as Ephesians 6 in particular emphasizes. Perhaps it could best be compared to the wars of conquest of Israel for several reasons. First of all; it identifies the enemy and in no uncertain terms. The Lord would call for destruction of Israel's neighbors at the time because of their sinful religious practices; which included child sacrifice and in the case of at least one king; killing babies in the womb ( 1 Samuel 15:33 in regard to killing king Agag). The enemy of our souls comes to "steal; kill and destroy". ( John 10:10). We are called to love our enemies in regard to the sinner; but not the sin. Satan and his hordes are unredeemable and constantly coming against God's people and blinding the unregenerate. Just WHY believers seem so tepid in confronting this menacing enemy is a real conundrum in my mind; and sadly I can't help think it is because their walk is so compromised that they dare not face such a foe and find it easier to put it in the back of their minds as a lesser threat for some reason.

    Of course there is no reason to hate sin and not the author of confusion; or vice versa. We can't put all the blame on Satan but not using our one offensive weapon the sword of the Spirit is both; well stupid and detrimental to the mutual well being of the saints. This may be the only time I would use such an offensive approach in terms of a general rebuke; and of course I have to face my own myopic prayer life when saying this to others. David had a sling and a stone to use as his armor was untested; a criminal would have only perhaps a file to whittle at his prison cell bars; we have only one offensive weapon in the Ephesians 6 inventory; that of the sword of the Spirit. NEVER go after Satan in your own strength that is also dumb.


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