Discuss 2 Maccabees 7

Here are several scriptures I found about death & after death : James 2:26, Ecclesiasticus 38:23, Ecclesiasticus 22:11, 2 Maccabees 7:36, 2 Maccabees 12:44, Ecclesiasticus 10:11, Ecclesiasticus 17:28, Baruch, 2:17, Psalms 88:10, Psalms 115:11, Ecclesiastes 9:5,

after death,: Matthew 17:1-3, Luke 7:12-16, Luke 8:49-56, John 11:21-45, Matthew 27:50-54, Luke 16:22-31, John 21:14, Acts 3:15, Acts 4:10, Mark 12:25,26,27, Luke 24:46, John 5:12, John 5:25, 1 Peter 1:3, 1 Peter 2:24, 1 Peter 4:5, Revelation 1:5, Revelation 1:18, Revelation 14:9-20, 1 Corinthians 15:20,21, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:9, Matthew 22:32, Isaiah 26:19,

Hebrews 11:35, Revelation 20, 2 Esdras 2:16, Hebrews 6:2, Hebrews 9:14, Hebrews 11:4, Hebrews 13:20, Revelation 11:18,

Hopefully these are helpful.

Hi Glen. I didn't believe you to be a Roman Catholic - I answered your question in the way I thought you meant it, about the Roman Catholic Church having problems with 2 Maccabees.

However, to your other question: it is true that the 1611 KJV did have the Apocrypha in them, but it should be noted that it was placed between the Testaments & for historical reasons only, and usually with a note to speak of their non-inspired writing, that they should not be included into the Canon of Scripture & with several reasons (7, I believe) given for their spurious inspiration/authorship.

Unlike the RC Bibles & others which included the Apocrypha within testamental books. For reasons I can't fully verify, I understand that because of the sheer weight of Bibles in those days (up to 40 lbs), the Apocrypha was omitted, and in respect of the Bible printers, this was a boon, since their job became easier & they could sell the Apocrypha as a separate volume, thereby making a further profit. However, you may want to check out this aspect. Trust this better answers your question, Glen.

Glen Barbour - in Reply on 2 Maccabees 7

Chris,

I am not catholic! However, what I was referring too is that these books are not listed in the bible (66 books). It was originally in the old KJV bible 1610, but was removed. I do not believe in purgatory and praying for the dead.

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Please read Acts 24:15 We can pray to God ( Psalm 83:18) for his kingdom to come ( Matthew 6:9,10).

Why? because we can pray that he resurrect our loved ones who have died (the ones we love so dearly)

John 5:28,29

Job 14:14,15

John 11:25

Chris,

I am not catholic! However, what I was referring too is that these books are not listed in the bible (66 books). It was originally in the old KJV bible 1610, but was removed. I do not believe in purgatory and praying for the dead.

Hello Glen. I'm not sure whether you're saying that 2 Maccabees chapter 7 is not recognized by Roman Catholics, or that the whole Book is not recognized. I can't speak of that particular chapter & account, but I know that the Book is certainly recognized by them, since the doctrine of purgatory & praying for the dead is one of the key references they use in support of it. I speak of 2 Maccabees 12:36-45.

I understand that the books of the apocrypha was not deem creatable or authorized. Why didn't the catholic church deem this book of 2 Maccabees 7 creatable? This mother and her sons went through a lot by standing for the only one true God!!!

A very deep truth

Tell me about you being a Essene.

Moon

This is the partial example of true faith and the works of the saints in their zeal unto the law of God that were done ahead and in preparation of the following perfect works of Jesu Meshiach and all His followers the saints after them.

This is yet another clear example quoted from hebrews 11 35 that the women were commended for their faith by NOT EATING PORK.I have the full bunch of info on why Catholic Christians must not eat pork

If possible, please tell me the town or city where this torturing took place?

As a vegan essene I am deeply moved by their dedication and sense of honor, and equally repulsed by the heartless, disgusting, vicious, tyrannical mentality of the king.