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  • Richard H Priday - 1 month ago
    Proverbs 29:1 KJ21 He that, being often reproved, stiffeneth his neck shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

    This is the fate of all the unregenerate who do not repent. A prime example is Pharoah during Moses' extensive dialogue with him warning of his fate defying God's will when it came to the sacrifice that his people desired in the desert. One should note that it was only requested for a short trip for this ceremony at first but eventually Pharoah drove them out and yet once again attempted to capture them to enslave them before his armies were destroyed in the Red Sea. Pharoah himself may not have been there but it seems his fate was sealed.

    We see evidences such as 2 Chronicles 13:10-13 where Manasses repented after doing horrible abominations in the land; but we also see verses that state that even though they pray to God those devoted to destruction will not be heard ( Jeremiah 11:11 and Micah 3:4).

    In seeing these examples; we ought to not test God as they were warned in the wilderness. We are warned not to rebuke a fool either ( Prov. 9:8). We should listen to God the first time; and realize that He chastens all He loves; and the opposite therefore indicates that without that discipline we are not His own as we see comparing Peter in the Bible to Judas Iscariot. All of us have a death sentence due to sin; but some choose to come to their end sooner through particularly evil lifestyles and behaviors.

    No amount of pride brings joy; and our minds can only find solace in being left alone in our state once we have lost all pleasure in worldly things due to aging. Proverbs 5:14 talks about being almost in ruin in the congregation due to sins; but that is preferable to pining away alone; for Solomon saw this reality also in Ecclesiastes seeing that all things apart from God were vanity. In short; a saved man sees His old life crucified; new life in Christ and the Body of believers his adopted family (see Ephesians 1:23).
  • Lu2677 on 2 Chronicles 13 - 8 years ago
    Hi Rachel, 2 Chronicles 13; obviously Abijah could not have two birth mother's. His father had multiple wives as it states a few verses later. We don't know which one would be his birth mother it does not say. The other one listed as his mother would either be a step mother or surrogate mother.
  • Gabriel Obioma Ejiogu on Deuteronomy 33:7 - 8 years ago
    Moses prayed that God would hear the voice of Judah during his times of distress, because as ' 'a lion, killing his victim and returning to his den... ' ' Judah would stand to defend the Kingdom of God. This was pictured in 2 Chronicles 13, ' 'And when Judah looked back, behold, the battle was before and behind: and they cried unto the LORD, and the priests sounded with the trumpets. Then the men of Judah gave a shout: and as the men of Judah shouted, it came to pass that God smote Jeroboam and all Israel before Abijah and Judah. ' ' vv. 15-16. Moses requested that God would bring unite Judah unto his people. God originally, never planned that there would be any sort of schism among the tribes of Israel. He wanted them to be one strong, united nation not two nations. Moses, through the eyes of the Spirit, saw the separation of Judah from the rest of the tribes of Israel, and Moses prayed that God would unite them. Similarly, Jacob, their father, on his deathbed prophesied that when Shiloh Jesus, the Lion of the tribe of Judah comes, there shall be a gathering of His people Genesis 49:10 . This means, that Christ shall unite Israel both the physical and spiritual Israel at His second coming. Another blessing for Judah is that his hands would be sufficient for him and God would be his only aid. Yes, like a lion, Judah kills his victim and returns to his den. God strengthens them enough to defend their cause. They do not seek for an external aid to help them fight their battle. God is their only, and sufficient help.
  • Steve on Daniel 8 - 12 years ago
    Actually, concerning the 'ereb boqer (evenings, mornings) of verse 14, the Adventists are not in error on this point. It's all in the word order. "Evening and morning" is the Biblical language used for meaning one day. This principle is set forth in the book of Genesis:

    "So the evening and the morning were the first day." (1:5)

    "So the evening and the morning were the second day." (1:8)

    "So the evening and the morning were the third day." (1:13)

    And so forth. In the Bible, days begin in the evening. Hence the reason the Lord said "from evening to evening, you shall celebrate your sabbath" ( Leviticus 23:32). The morning, then, would be the second part of the day.

    However, with regards to sacrifices, this order is reversed. Instead of evening and morning, the language use for offerings is morning and evening. This is made plain in the following examples:

    Exodus 29:39
    One lamb you shall offer in the morning, and the other lamb you shall offer at twilight ['ereb].

    Numbers 28:4
    The one lamb you shall offer in the morning, the other lamb you shall offer in the evening.

    2 Kings 16:15
    On the great new altar burn the morning burnt offering, the evening grain offering...

    1 Chronicles 16:40
    to offer burnt offerings to the Lord on the altar of burnt offering regularly morning and evening...

    2 Chronicles 2:4
    ...for the burnt offerings morning and evening, on the Sabbaths, on the New Moons, and on the set feasts of the LORD our God...

    2 Chronicles 13:11
    And they burn to the LORD every morning and every evening burnt sacrifices and sweet incense...

    Thus the phrase "morning" and "evening" became the staple for signifying sacrificial offerings all throughout Scripture. As Siegfried Schwantes points out, this expression perpetuated into the post-Old Testament when the Apocrypha came about. 1 Esdras 5:50 says, "and they offered sacrifices according to the time, and burnt offerings to the Lord both morning and evening."

    Now, if the text in Daniel 8:14 had stated 2300 mornings and evenings, then a case could be made that the passage was, indeed, talking about sacrifices (though, I think, it would still seem that each morning and evening would stand for a day). However, the text doesn't use that order. Rather, it says "evenings and mornings" which, as indicated above, is the language used for a day. So, the KJV rendering of 'ereb boqer as meaning "days" may be a bit interpretive, but it is by no means inaccurate. The translators knew what they were doing in this case. So, understanding that the expression means 2300 days and applying the year-day principle to this text (which had also been done from time to time prior to the Millerite movement), the doctrine that this is a 2300 year prophecy stands upon firm ground.


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