Discuss 1 Timothy 5

  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 2 months ago
    1 Timothy 5:21 seems to answer that question regarding the "elect angels". I don't believe any elect beings can ultimately fall; but in the case of the angels they saw heaven and were present when the worlds were created as the verses in Job indicate when all the sons of glory shouted for joy. This begs the question of course did God foresee all those who would fall and call the remaining the elect; or were they predestined to go that way? I would say both as God certainly is unlimited. Seeing everything as the angels did there could be no further remedy unlike mortal man who has never seen God or only what they learned starting in Eden. Seeing heaven as Lucifer did and more importantly the proper praise of God's holiness in the beginning also would have made it clear what worshiping a created being would imply. This is similar to the logic I apply to the Tribulation at least from the sixth seal on there is no more need to tell anyone that Christ is Lord as they will hide from the face of God and Christ at His right hand ( Revelation 6:16 imperfectly translated by me).

    Clearly of course God's predestined plan from before the foundation of the world for our salvation (I'll let you find the verse) shows that God knew what was going to occur. This doesn't give us a pleasant feeling; and we should be reminded the dirge said related to Lucifer's fall in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28. Once the angels saw all these things there was no need for validation of who God was; and there was also no further remedy-they were forever to be out of the favor of God with the ultimate destiny of hell (which was created for the Devil and his angels).

    This should be a sobering reminder to man that there is a point beyond redemption once we have tasted heavenly things as Hebrews and literally hundreds of other scriptures point out in warnings of reprobate individuals and those who at first glance appear to be saved who fall away. There is a book of all living and of life.
  • Tunney on 1 Timothy 5 - 4 months ago
    I have much to work on in my life before my SAVIOR comes. I am saved by the blood of the LAMB by grace through faith it is a gift I received from my CHRIST. Ephesians 2: 8, 9. I must remember to daily put on my armor of GOD Ephesians 6:10-18; and that I am a new creature. 2 Corinthians 5:17

    I will daily pray for those in authority, for the lost, back slidden, and for the brethren in the field planting and watering the seed, waiting for the increase from the LORD.

    I will give; as I have been blessed and praise HIS name.

    Thank YOU FATHER for this wonderful time we have to serve, and glorify YOU. Bless the peace needed in Jerusalem; thank YOU for YOUR word never returning void when we go out declaring YOUR truth.

    Merry Christmas all!

    Numbers 6:

    26 The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

    Isaiah 9:

    6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

    December 23, 2023
  • S Spencer - 5 months ago
    Pt 1

    There are terms in the Bible such as twice dead and Second death. " Jude 1:12, Revelation 2:11, Revelation 20:14 and Revelation 21:8.

    Paul says in Romans 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

    Which death did he die? The 1st or the 2nd?

    An unbeliever is ALREADY dead! Yet he is still continuous.

    ( 1 Timothy 5:6.) This is a very common NT idiom. The word (noun) for "dead" is "nekros" and is used of physical death (obviously) but also spiritual death to describe an unsaved person who is physically alive but spiritually dead. Here are some examples:

    Matt 8:22 - But Jesus told him, "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead."

    Eph 2:1 - As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,

    Eph 2:5 - made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved.

    Eph 5:14 - This is why it is said: "Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.

    Col 2:13 - When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins.

    Eternal Salvation is life! It is separation from this Body/Tabernacle of death.

    In Romans 6:3 we see the sacrificial Lamb at work.

    In Romans 6:4-5 we see the NEW BIRTH and the first fruit of the Resurrection. This is the 1st Resurrection.

    You are either dead right now or you have life right now!

    Those who have life has already died once and has been born again, never to die again.

    "Eternal life speaks of "spiritual life and death".

    That's the only death a believer has. "He's already been born again"

    Those who are dead is already spiritual dead and their bodies will soon die, and they will remain spiritual dead throughout eternity.

    The bible doesn't say anything about being unconscious after the body dies. It has lots of scripture describing conscious.

    If the grave is Hell, the Bible never says anything about the saved going there.

    See Pt 2
  • S Spencer - 5 months ago
    AVOID, REBUKE, AND CALL OUT.

    To avoid them, you have to know who they are. You can't avoid somebody if you don't know who they are. This idea of identifying and avoiding shows up in

    1 Corinthians 5:11;

    2 Thessalonians 3:6,

    2 Thessalonians 3:14;

    2 Timothy 3:5;

    2 John 1:10.

    In other words, Christians, and shepherds in particular, should be discerning and alert to behavior and teaching that dishonors Christ and destroys people - and not treat it in a casual or harmless way.

    And then in 1 Timothy 5:19-20, Paul went beyond just "avoid them" to "rebuke them publicly." So, speaking of elders who persist in error, he said, "Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. As for those who persist in sin" - and that can be sin of false doctrine or sin of evil behavior, anyone who does not accept correction - "rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.."

    And then Paul went on and actually named destructive false teachers:

    "Demas, in love with this present world, has deserted me" 2 Timothy 4:10.

    You are aware that all who are in Asia turned away from me, among whom are Phygelus and Hermogenes" 2 Timothy 1:15.

    "By rejecting this [faith and a good conscience], some have made shipwreck of their faith, among whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander" 1 Timothy 1:19-20.

    "Their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus" ( 2 Timothy 2:17).

    Paul names at least six false teachers that the church should watch out for.

    So, I infer from Jesus and Paul and Luke and John that false teaching and destructive behavior are present dangers in this fallen world for the church. And all of us - especially shepherds, pastors - should be alert and discerning to identify and, in appropriate ways, expose. In order to protect the flock, we should expose them and minimize the spread of the gangrene (as Paul calls it).

    AVOID, REBUKE, AND CALL OUT.

    God bless
  • Chris - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Hello Bmccaugh58. The answers to your questions are actually found throughout the Bible (from Genesis to Revelation), because the Bible essentially shows us how far mankind has fallen away from his Creator (because of sin), the repercussions we face from living in such a sinful state, & what God has done to offer correction & help, or else, judgement. So, one merely has to read through the Bible (even in your daily devotions/readings) & will see how people, yes all of us, have done wrong towards God & man & what subsequently entails from that. Some will learn & be corrected & then restored - others will persist in their evil ways & face God's Judgement.

    So, here are some passages to start you off, but in your reading of the Bible, God's Spirit will alert you to what you seek or even where some action needs to be taken in your own life.

    For "Consequences", see: Genesis 2:15-17; Genesis 3:16-19; Deuteronomy 28:1,2,15; 1 Kings 11:9-11; Job 4:8,9; Isaiah 59:2; Jeremiah 17:9,10; Matthew 27:3-5; Romans 6:23; Romans 13:4; Galatians 6:7,8; 1 Timothy 5:8; James 2:10; Revelation 20:12-15.

    For "Correction", see: Proverbs 22:6; Proverbs 29:15; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Galatians 6:1; Ephesians 6:4; 2 Timothy 4:2; Hebrews 12:5-11; Revelation 3:19.

    These are just a very few Scriptures, reminding us that there will always be consequences for our actions, not just in our dealings with each other, but more importantly, as we stand before God. But this God of Love always gives sinful wayward man an escape route, from a life of sin to a life of holiness & love - and His Name is Jesus.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Lee the Follower:

    Since you have not yet received an answer to your question, I would like to reply.

    There are two baptisms, John baptism of water, and Christ's baptism of truth and life.

    The true gospel has been lost to the traditions and teachings of man.

    The true gospel is what happened at Christ death and resurrection.

    You were BAPTISED into the DEATH and RESURRECTION of Christ, you were baptised into the NAME of Jesus.

    You DIED with Christ, you arose with Christ, you and Christ were MARRIED and became ONE, being raised together as ONE.

    All creation was MADE NEW, the new heavens and the new earth, at his resurrection.

    Salvation is about BELIEVING what God says he HAS DONE.

    Your saved from DEATH.

    1 Timothy 5:16 Christ ONLY has IMMORTALITY ...

    1 Corinthians 15:53 ... this mortal must PUT ON IMMORTALITY .....Christ only has immortality......

    Your were BAPTISED into LIFE of Christ by his resurrection.

    John 14:6 I AM the LIFE ....

    Romans 8:29 .... being predestinate (by the BAPTISM of his resurrection) TO BE conformed to the IMAGE of his son.

    You were RAISED a NEW CREATION;

    John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou has given me, I HAVE GIVEN THEM, that they maybe ONE, even as we are ONE.

    BELIEVE what God has done.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 7 months ago
    OSAS: Proper respect for leadership.

    In my last post I ended with a discussion of the legalism of the Pharisees; as well as those that have what I call "sloppy Agape" or attempt to gloss over sin and use grace and forgiveness of all past; present and future sins as their excuse. In both of these cases at least for those who remain in a church fellowship we see an idolization of the Pastor most often who no doubt is contributing to one or the other error mentioned here. A true believer would move on if there is heresy coming from one of their own (see Acts 20:30). Justifying self righteousness is aided; of course when someone is financially well to do and credits the church leadership that promises "sowing a seed" will add to prosperity for all (whether or not they are giving a large sum themselves). The opposite of this are those widows and old ladies who are fleeced to their last dollar mesmerized by a Pastor who promises health and happiness with obedience and warns against not doing this despite what common sense would otherwise show.

    This first paragraph assumes corrupt leadership. Another sign of our faith is respecting elders and pastors who ARE feeding the flock and tending the sheep properly. (see 1 Timothy 5:17). Disrespect of such authority often mainfests in impatience if a sermon runs 5 minutes late; frustration when genuine financial needs are brought up; lack of participation and interest in prayer and doing service projects in the church and for the comunity; etc. Beyond this; the admonitions of 1 John about loving the brethren are ignored (see 1 John 4:20). Such parishioners will sometimes leave; and we shouldn't strive to force them to stay.

    There are others attempting to spread false doctrines which were of course never part of the true flock (see 1 John 2:19). They may leave but if not need to be dealt with lest they be a cancer that affects the whole flock (see warning in Galatians 5:9).

    LET US MEDITATE ON MATTHEW 10:16!!!
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Thanks Brother Ronald.

    In Jude the vengeance of eternal fire is not referring to the fire rained down on them in regard to this topic because that fire wasn't eternal and that wasn't their judgement of their second death but the fire that awaits them will be the fire mentioned in Jude.

    The example set forth in Jude is them being ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Same as the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

    And the angels which kept not their first estate but left their own habitation.

    Jude is putting his recipients in remembrance that these all is reserved to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

    These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

    Have you noticed this group is twice dead, plucked up by the roots already before Judgement?

    You can be dead while you liveth.

    1 Timothy 5:6. So the body doesn't have to die to be considered dead in the vocabulary here and it doesn't take eternal fire to keep you dead.

    I'm talking about the description of that everlasting punishment (Which is future for the unbeliever)

    Scripture describes it as torment and weeping and gnashing of teeth due to the unquenchable fire.

    There would have to be teeth to gnash and if that's just a metaphor for a reaction to pain, if there is no body or no longer any existence it doesn't make since.

    It could be no reaction to it. Torment and weeping and gnashing of teeth is a reaction to the unquenchable fire in these particular verses.

    God bless.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 9 months ago
    WEM,

    1 Timothy 5:13 reads, " And with this they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers, (and that's literally the word gossipers). And busybodies, speaking things that they ought not."



    So he says these people you have to refuse because they don't have much to do, and if the church takes care of them, they're going to have a lot of idle time, and they're going to be going from house to house getting involved in conversations and gossip, and slander, and saying things against people that they shouldn't say.

    Blessings!
  • Richard H Priday - 10 months ago
    Genuine Christ vs Imaginary

    Confrontation of sin

    Verses on repentance are rife in the scriptures. Taking a proactive approach after a confession of faith toward living a life of holiness separates the real from the pretenders; whether in our own lives or confronting the sin of others.

    Such a matter as suing one another ( 1 Corinthians 6) illustrates how making proper judgments within the Body of Christ is to occur; so that Matthew 7:1 is taken into proper context. Naturally; we are to straighten out our walk to avoid hypocrisy and to see clearly; as Jesus indicated to take the speck out of a brother's eye. Psalm 139:24 indicates a prayer to see any "offensive way" in us. As my earlier post indicates; we can seek to conform our outer behaviors so that we don't cuss; drink; smoke or dance for example but we can still foster pride or greed or something else. This is the methodology which fails when trying to reform people without the Lord transforming the heart; merely substituting one sin for another. Or; as some have said we need a new "wanter". None of these actions to curtail behaviors will make us love God any more without Him ruling and reigning in our lives.

    This desire not to shake the apple cart as it were stops many from confronting sins of others; which is a necessary tool to bring forth repentance when evangelizing as well as confronting things within the church. The sin NATURE; of course is the focus which needs to be stressed on the streets but we also see individuals with sinful lifestyles that must be repented of. That principle is for nonbelievers and those who confess Christ as well in light of 1 John 3:8-10. 1 Timothy 5:20 shows how indeed these confrontations are necessary in the church; and a responsibility of those in authority; such as Timothy was after Paul instructed him and trained him. 1 Timothy 5:24 shows how certain sins are more obvious than others; but all will be judged.

    ( Galatians 5:17; 1 Cor. 6:9-10)
  • I Am A Real Baptist Brider 1979 - In Reply - 11 months ago
    XXI. OF THE GRACE OF TITHING AND GIVING

    I believe God's plan of finance for His Baptist Church's is to be tithes and offerings. Scriptural giving is one of the fundamentals of the faith. I believe that every Believer, as a steward of that portion of God's wealth entrusted to him or her, is obligated to support his or her Baptist Church financially. I believe that God has established the tithe as a basis of giving but that every Believer should also give other offerings sacrificially and cheerfully to the support of his or her Baptist Church for the relief of those in need, and the spread of the Gospel. I believe that Church members are commanded to bring their tithes and offerings into the Storehouse (Common Treasury) of their Baptist Church upon the first day of the week (Sunday). I believe that a Believer relinquishes all rights to direct the use of the tithe or offering once the gift has been made. I believe under grace we give, and do not pay, the tithe - "Abraham GAVE a tenth part of all." "Abraham GAVE the tenth part of the spoils," and this was four hundred years before the Law, and is confirmed in the New Testament, the Lord Jesus Himself said concerning the tithe, "... these ought ye to have done ..." ( Genesis 14:20; Leviticus 27:30; Proverbs 3:9, 10; Malachi 3:10; Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42; Acts 4:34, 35, 37; 1 Corinthians 16:2; 2 Corinthians 8:7; 2 Corinthians 9:6, 7; Galatians 6:6; Ephesians 4:28; 1 Timothy 5:17, 18; Hebrews 7:2, 4; 1 John 3:17).
  • Chris - In Reply on Psalms 91 - 1 year ago
    Hello Eula. I can't recall anything as specific as your question being answered in the Bible; but the following Scriptures relate to giving honor & care to parents, family & others near to you.

    Exodus 20:12; Ephesians 6:1-4; 1 Timothy 5:8.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Acts 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Christie,

    You can read in 1 Timothy 5:1-5 where Paul says that every creature God has created is good and nothing should be refused if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is sanctified by the word of God. This he said in response to false teachers who teach certain O.T. dietary restrictions.
  • Ronnette on 1 Corinthians 4 - 1 year ago
    To the saints on this site:

    1 Corinthians 4:5 speaks volume to us since saints understand the mysteries revealed to the faithful and Romans 1:6 & Romans 8:28. For saints know Isaiah 5:20. We are where we are today. God is so great to allow us to do things in life in our own free will where in the end The Glory belongs to God. God allowed me to have worked with great scientists in America with great heart. I do not need to understand and question everything at the spare of the moment. I just know the paths God lead me in was not to question authorities in the land. God has the heavenly plans and those are what I am and every saint must be very excited about. When you walk in the Spirit of God, you are like in a trance. Next thing you know someone tells you on earth job well done. Not to boast but again and again to Glorify God because He helped you to do job well done. I can control only me and hopefully have a strong influence with my family and friends and anybody that touches my life to follow God as I walk the walk and talk the talk. Even 1 Timothy 5:4 saints take it to heart. All is good with God James 1:17 and all are Your's 1 Corinthians 3:21-23. I know It is easy said and done here on earth. We all have afflictions and to some unbearable 2 Corinthians 6:4. I thank God for the blood of Jesus Christ for that power is in everyone who put his trust, faith and believe in that He will never leaves you. Psalms 91 memorize!

    The Spirit speaks to you 1 Peter 3:13, 3 John 1:11. Be in Spirit so you can 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 Thessalonians 5:15. Philippians 2:13 and Ephesians 1:9. Saints, Ephesians 4:29

    There are more heavenly things I can share but I like to inspire you with this testimony Colossians 1:27. Let us all grow in true Charity 1 Corinthians 13:4-8, the bond of perfectness Colossians 3:14. In conclusion 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18. Happy Sunday with the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace to ALL.
  • To Jo Carroll - In Reply - 1 year ago
    James 1:27

    PURE RELIGION and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

    Jeremiah 49:11

    Leave thy fatherless children, I will preserve them alive; and let thy widows trust in me.

    Lamentations 5:3

    We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers are as widows.

    1 Timothy 5:3

    Honour widows that are widows indeed.

    1 Timothy 5:16

    If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.

    Psalms 68:5

    A father of the fatherless, and a judge of the widows, is God in his holy habitation.

    Mishael
  • Giannis - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 1 year ago
    Dear Dr. Bill

    Not all the scripture below are totally relevant, but I think they will help:

    Matthew 18:15-18

    1 Corinthians 5:1-5

    1 Corinthians 5:9-13

    Galatians 6:1

    1 Timothy 1:3-4

    1 Timothy 1:20

    1 Timothy 5:1-2

    1 Timothy 5:19-20

    1 Timothy 6:3-5

    2 Timothy 4:2-4

    Titus 1:10-11

    Titua 3:10-11

    Philemon 1:8-9

    2 John 1:9-11

    Rev 2:14

    Rev 2:20
  • Luke - In Reply on 1 Timothy 5 - 1 year ago
    Jesus was God in the flesh
  • Human versus not human-illegal spirits - In Reply on 1 Timothy 5 - 1 year ago
    When Mary consented, the Holy Spirit overshadowed her and Jesus became human through her obedience.

    Earth was created for man; for humans. Lucifer/Satan is not human. They are created by God, angels. God evicted Satan with his now evil angels to earth to roam. They are not human and have no bodies. They can borrow bodies of evil humans or creatures. I don't believe Satan had knowledge of what God was doing. He only knew Genesis 3:15.

    When Jesus died on the Cross and shed his

    Blood for Whosoever in John 3:16, the plan of God was now "in force". Genesis 3:15 was fulfilled.

    Satan lost what he stole from Adam: authority. Wicked humans can give their authority to the Lord Jesus, or Satan. They must choose just one. We can only be born again through the shed blood of Jesus. He is the door and the narrow gate by which we are passed from spiritual death, into eternal life; and into heaven at death.

    Satan is the one who hurts people. He is a Liar, a thief and a hunter of souls. He blinds people to their spiritual need of forgiveness through Jesus Christ.

    Sometimes we get side-tracked by blaming God for difficulties in our lives. Death of people we loved, and many reasons. Satan causes misery and suffering. Jesus offers salvation from that. If our prayer life is active and strong in scripture, we can be healed even now, and delivered from satanic attacks (read book of Job).

    Problem is if we don't study the Bible, we do not know what is available to us. Job was delivered from all the hurt Satan caused (loss of children, his wife's trust, property, livelihood; health etc). He gets it all back plus more, at the end of the story.

    This is not a long dead story. It is scripture WE STAND ON when Praying to God concerning our needs. Concerning return of things eaten up by cankerworm and locust (curses and attacks from Satan).

    Ephesians 6 clearly says Satan and evil spirits are INVISIBLE. We can spot them in our lives by their FRUITS.
  • Ronnette on Deuteronomy 32 - 1 year ago
    What a great chapter to learn how great God we have. Glory to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ and peace to all living saints who are very much guided by the Holy Spirit of God.

    Galatians 1:12

    For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

    Be saved! 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    Revelation 15:3-4 I love singing this song.

    And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

    Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

    Revelation 18:4

    And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    1 Timothy 5:15

    For some are already turned aside after Satan.
  • Florence Jones on 1 Timothy 5 - 1 year ago
    When God looked at the blood atonement and saw it wasn't changing the Sun the Holy Spirit said prepare me a body and I will go down and give myself as an offering was it God that enter that body himself and came to earth himself and dwell among us for a short period of time
  • Ronnette - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The entire Romans 8 is good. God knows your heart's desire. Your prayers are already heard. Keep the faith. 1 Timothy 5:4 .let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.

    And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Take care.
  • Sex Outside of Marriage - In Reply on 2 Samuel 22 - 1 year ago
    1 Corinthians 7:9

    But if they cannot contain [be celibate], let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

    1 Timothy 5:14

    I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary (Satan) to speak reproachfully.

    1 Timothy Chapter 4

    1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times [now] some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

    3 Forbidding (us) TO MARRY, and commanding to ABSTAIN from [EATING] MEATS, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

    4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

    Comment: When God married Adam and Eve ( Genesis 1:24-25) they became one flesh.

    Modern people: when we "break off one relationship and start another". There are "soul ties" left hanging. It's best to be betrothed for a year. This happened in the FIRST book of the Bible. (not 1 Corinthians 13). If a couple cannot keep the friendship alive, there is less chance of a lifelong marriage with one partner. Phillipians 2, for more reading.
  • D W L - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jo M Mingua

    Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

    1 Corinthians 9:6 - 11

    1 Timothy 5:18 For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

    When you are hunting for a church - be sure you are looking for the truth. Read and study willing to except the Word. May the Lord Bless you
  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I don't think I agree with you dear Suze.

    There is a difference between trying to follow God's way/commandments and fail and subsequently repent and be forgiven AND do sin deliberately, especially live in a sinful situation with no intention to repent at all. Paul advices christians not to even have anything to do with such persons. 1 Corinthians 5:11-12

    "But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat ...But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore PUT AWAY from among yourselves that wicked person."

    They should either warn their pastor that that situation can not be tolerated any more or change pastor or even leave that church.

    The verse you are looking for is in 1 Timothy 5:24. GBU
  • Anthony William - In Reply - 1 year ago
    No, it is not a sin to drink alcohol. We know that Paul advised Timothy to drink a little wine for his stomach's sake.

    1 Timothy 5:23 |

    Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

    And we know that Jesus changed the water into wine at the feast of Cana.

    Moderation is required when drinking alcohol. We all know what can happen when a person drinks too much alcohol. Paul instructs us to stay away from drunkards.

    1 Corinthians 5:11

    But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thanks for that Suze. I agree with much that you wrote, but rather than deal with each part of it, I would ask, What is the origin of our carnal minds? What was in Paul's mind when he stated, "the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God" Romans 8:7,8: where does this carnal mind/carnal life, lived in the flesh, come from?

    Is this something God has given us from our birth, or has another intruded into humanity causing us to sin against God & that sin has been passed on to all generations? ( Romans 5:12; Acts 5:3; 1 Timothy 5:14,15; 2 Corinthians 2:10,11; 1 Thessalonians 2:18; Luke 22:31,32; etc., are a few verses showing Satan's activity, from the first day till the day he is put away, & our ongoing struggle to withstand him & his devices & to live in the power & joy of the Holy Spirit).

    Satan is never absent - He is present - He is at work - and working in the hearts & minds of those who choose to live according to the dictates of their flesh & not in the fullness of the Spirit. Such were the gross sins of those kings mentioned earlier - if Ananias & Sapphira could have Satan gripping their heart so as to lie to the Spirit, how much more of Satan's control over those kings & indeed so many rulers/govts of today & their workings against Jesus Christ.
  • Moderation in All Things - In Reply - 1 year ago
    VERSES ON MODERATION. Jesus practiced moderation.

    Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 - To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

    1 Corinthians 6:12 - All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of [excesses of anything]

    Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is EXCESS; but be filled with the Spirit;

    1 Corinthians 6:19-20 - What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

    1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: [over consumption=poor health]

    1 Timothy 4:2-5 - Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

    Philippians 4:5 - Let your MODERATION be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

    Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

    1 Timothy 5:23 - Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. (This was a stomach remedy; not a reason to party.)

    1 Timothy 3:8 - Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;

    Comment: anger creates cortisol in the blood, and it kills people.

    Almost everyone knows these things. The only way I've found to fight back, is to not even bring stuff into the house. God created everything to give us life and health.

    I drink water until my brain sends the signal I am "full". It turns off that screaming. Try it.
  • PraiseTheLordJesus - In Reply - 1 year ago
    1 Timothy 5:22 - healing / lay on hands

    1 Corinthians 14:33 - speaking in tongs means speaking in another language to praise God, not babbling or growling. This babbling

    that happens in the charismatic gentile "church" is demonic.

    The question if we have healing power through the Lord is not easy to answer. Prayer for sure, but like the apostles did..

    no because this was for a sign.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on James 3 - 2 years ago
    We should look at Abraham's act with Isaac as faith as well as an act of obedience on his part. We; certainly aren't as Abraham being given a son at 99 years of age; with a wife of 90; nor speaking to the Angel of God (Christ preincarnate) and other angels about destroying Sodom and then witnessing the event. Isaac was the son of promise who was to have descendants to multiply as the stars of the sky. The Lord would have to resurrect him; or as he told his son; "the Lord will provide a lamb" and the mountain's name given was testimony to that fact. (Actually a RAM was in thicket; the sacrificial lamb was eventually to be Christ who also needed to be a descendant of Isaac so the fact is that the Lord had to step in at some point.

    We need to act out on what we confess; to prove what we possess. It is easy according to James to wish someone to be warm and fed or any other accolaides without doing anything. Surely we need to provide for physical needs as well as spiritual. We also; surely need to preach the truth in love; we can't separate these actions either; as it is not loving to tell people just what they want to hear; nor is it to bash them with truth and not care about the person. Much is the same principle with the Lord; those who love Him will obey His voice. ( John 14:15). He asks why people call Him Lord, Lord and do not what He says in Luke 6:46. We are not of this world; but need to be salt and light; for that is the preservation from total destruction which the Restrainer utilizes in the Body of Christ through the Spirit's current operation. We are told that he who doesn't care for the needs of his own are worse than an unbeliever and an infidel ( 1 Timothy 5:8). Mark 3:35 states that those who are His brother and mother; etc are those who do the will of the Father. We were given works from before the foundation of the world ( Ephesians 2:10). The Holy Spirit works within us; putting to death the deeds of the flesh as a fit vessel
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    A very fundamental lesson

    All flesh is appointed to die.

    Every soul that sin shall die the 2nd death.

    There's a new birth at conversion for those who trust in Christ. This is defined in baptism.

    And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27.

    There is in scripture what is called the 2nd death. This has been taken care of for those who trust Christ.

    Without Christ you're already dead.

    1 Timothy 5:6.

    Ephesians 2:5.

    Revelation 3:1.

    Colossians 2:13.

    Romans 8:10.

    Mathew 8:22.

    Luke 15:24.

    And here's an important one for the brethren.

    1 John 3:14.

    John 11:25-26. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

    AND WHOSOEVER LIVETH AND BELIEVETH IN ME SHALL NEVER DIE. Believest thou this?

    One of many verses on the 2nd death.

    Revelation 20:13-14. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

    And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    Eternal life.

    If you truly trust in Christ, you have been baptized into Christ. You already have ETERNAL life. That's the only kind he's giving.

    If you haven't truly trusted in Christ you're already dead while you liveth and it shows up in your living and it observed carefully you'll find it in their Doctrine.

    Romans 8:9.

    Romans 10:8-10. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    God bless.


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