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  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Hi Giannis,

    Good to hear from you, very good question. First, the Roman Church elevated Mary to the queen of heaven the same title as Tammuz's mother we see Israel worshiping. They say she ascended to heaven and much more. If we look at Acts we see Paul said that David is still in his tomb and has not ascended to heaven, Acts 2:29 and Acts 2:34. Many believe after Jesus was resurrected saints were also resurrected and are in heaven and many pray to them. My understanding is no one has been resurrected all are in the grave asleep in death.

    When God through His Spirit the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead He placed Jesus above all that is in heaven, on earth, and under the earth, Philippians 2:9-11. God placed Jesus on His right hand on the throne of God, therefore giving Jesus the power of the throne.

    John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. Jesus also said John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

    God the Father and Jesus will dwell in us by the Spirit, not in temples made by hands like Jesus said in John 4:21-23 and we see in 1 Corinthians 3:16. We see in 1 John 4:12-16 it is by the Spirit that Jesus who is sitting on the right side of God on the throne of God as the only mediator between us and God has been given the power of the throne until all enemies are under His feet, 1 Corinthians 15:27-28.

    My humble understanding it is by the Spirit of God/Holy Spirit that Jesus can see and hear all. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and His God is our God the Father as Jesus said to Mary John 20:17.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

    Ephesians 5:27 is often thought of erroneously; as if the Lord can't come back until His church gets their act together. Let's be honest for a second; there never will be a time the true saints of God will all be in this state before the Rapture; as is clear from verses such as 1 Corinthians 3:15 and other verses clearly indicate. This leaves us with only two possibilities; that not all believers will be raptured and some will be left behind to get their garments cleaned; or everyone will be raptured who is now a believer but there will be differing rewards or lack thereof. I don't wish to be dogmatic either way here as the scriptures seem to point towards the first option with close examination. In any event those who already have passed away are now in the presence of the Lamb as seen from Hebrews 9:27.

    It shouldn't need to be stated that some who claim to be Christians are wolves in sheep's clothing. There is hope for some who reject Christ at present to repent in the Tribulation. There may be some now who will wake up the other side of the Rapture and realize what they thought about their state was different than reality. Some no doubt will be susceptible and fall eway to Antichrist; others will accept martyrdom rather than denounce Christ. In my opinion such a smackdown is necessary to jump start these individuals; again going against the logic that Christ is waiting for the church to be purified in their own timing. The Lord is patient and longsuffering but let's face it if we can't see how dark things are already then we are pretty well emasculated and unable to have any effective witness today. Satan isn't hiding anymore; nor his minions. Their agenda is in your face everywhere; it seems. His Bride truly is here today; but in a remnant largely hidden from "churchianity" at large.
  • Tunney - 4 months ago
    Oseas,

    Thank you for your thoughts and adding to the discussion.

    Yes, we are to reap; however, we are still called to sow the seed. Matthew 28: 18-20. This is because we don't know when the LORD JESUS comes and our work is ended here on earth. We keep sowing, because GOD is not willing that any one perish, but all come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9.

    For one plants, another waters, but GOD gives the increase.

    1 Corinthians 3:6-11

    We sow through CHRIST JESUS in our testimony, and witness as people see our daily relationship with our SAVIOR. In our sharing and declaring of the Salvation of the LORD. Titus 2:11-14.

    GOD bless you in your ministry of faith. November 29, 2023
  • Lee the Follower - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Jordyn

    I am a lot like you in many ways. I rid myself of all technology. No phone, vehicle etc. I wanted to go back to roots if you understand what I mean. I only kept my PC so I can try to study the bible and have only recently setup a facebook account a couple of months back so that I can try to "fellowship" with as many different Christians as that is where everyone seems to be and I did not want to ( 1 Corinthians 3:18) "deceive myself". But I am a very cautious and self-aware individual and so I am wary of ( Matthew 7:15) wolves in sheep's clothing while at the same time I don't want to become a fulfillement of the prophecy ( 2 Timothy 4:3) which I feel is actually coming to pass. I want to find that biblical sound doctrine So I know what path I need to walk.

    I thank you for your time, patience and guidance and May our Lord God the Father bless you. Peace and love to you in Jesus name.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi Ronald.

    I agree with Gigi, We are to gather from those who are gifted to teach, preach, and proclaim.

    Jesus said; He is truth!

    He also said, "My sheep hear my voice!

    When truth is proclaimed it's Christ spirit in us that discerns it.

    In 1 Corinthians 3:5-7 Paul illustrates this concept of teaching.

    We are to do as the Bereans in Acts 17:11 and test the scriptures to see if these things be true.

    I believe we should approach the scripture as babes in Christ and not just examine others doctrine but also constantly examining our own, testing scripture with scripture and applying proper hermeneutics.

    We take what we have learned from others and see if it holds up over time as we grow.

    God bless.
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    Get ready

    Isaiah 33:10-14KJV

    10 Now will I rise, saith the Lord; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself.

    11 Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you.

    12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.

    13 Hear, ye that are far off(the Gentiles peoples), what I have done; and, ye that are near (the Jews, the clay), acknowledge my might.

    14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us SHALL DWELL with the devouring fire? who among us SHALL DWELL with everlasting burnings?

    1 CORINTHIANS 3:13-15KJV

    13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

    15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Here is the basis of Jema's very important question.

    Quoting Jema.

    The thing that puzzles me is : 'promised before the world began' , where did Paul get this specific information from at that time ? I guess Paul was wise for his time , we know because we have the full Bible , old and new and we can discern the big picture . We can recognise that it was God's perpose all along , to creat a people who would love Him and want to be with Him , where and how did Paul find this out ?

    The only way this could be revealed to Paul is by divine intervention by the words of Christ assisted by the Holyspirit.

    Paul was sharing what was revealed to him as did the other Disciples and Apostles.

    The Holyspirit is our strength today, He assist our teaching and reveals truth to the blood tipped ear.

    The Ministry of the Holyspirit and our total dependency on him is paramount to the Christian fate.

    You see that also played out in

    1 Corinthians 3:1-23.
  • Jesse - 8 months ago
    INTRODUCTION TO 2 CORINTHIANS (Part 5):

    V: THE SPIRITUAL CONDITION OF THE CHURCH IN CORINTH:

    The spiritual condition of the church and leadership in Corinth was given to us back in 1 Corinthians 3:1-4 where he says, "I brethren, when I was with you, I could not speak unto you as to spiritual, but as to carnal, people who function according to the human and have no spiritual growth, so when I was first with you, I fed you as babes in Christ, and I fed you with milk, not with meat. For hitherto, you were not able to bear it, now you are neither able to bear it."

    When Paul wrote that, it was approximately five years since he has been there. So, he says five years ago when I was with you, I fed you with milk because you were just babes in Christ. But now five years later, you should be able to start handling some solid food. But you're still babes. You're still carnal. And he used a Greek word to show that it's abnormal.

    There's a normal carnality and there's abnormal. If you are young in the Lord, then it's normal. That is the word SARKINOS. But as you grow in the Lord, you should be ready to handle solid food. If not, that is an abnormal carnal, and that is SARKIKOS. So, there was a carnal fleshy condition, not only in the congregation, but in the leadership.

    VI: SECTION OUTLINE OF 2 CORINTHIANS:

    There are only three sections.

    CHAPTERS 1 THROUGH 7: The description of ministry.

    Notice it doesn't say the ministry. This is all ministry. And Paul is going to present that all believers have a ministry. And he's going to describe it for us. And you can see just by that first section that if Paul describes ministry for them, they're going to be comparing what Paul says with the false teachers that are in town.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Hi Adam

    1 Corinthians 3:13-15. is speaking of the same judgment as

    2 Corinthians 5:10. Just in more detail.

    Every man's work shall be made manifest: FOR THE DAY SHALL DECLARE IT, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

    If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: BUT HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire.

    The good and bad mentioned here is the good and bad works, Not good and bad people. That's why it says every man's WORKS shall be made manifest.

    I do agree with you about the fruit and what you declared in the other post as you mentioned John 14:15.

    Good works is a product of fruit barring.

    And fruit barring is a product of being connected to the vine.

    If we take that section further we would develop a context that

    suggests Christ is talking about a condition of a person already saved.

    He's not giving a requirement to get saved.

    John 14:15-23. If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you....

    He's making a contrast between those who love and obey him and the world who don't.

    ...and will manifest myself to him. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

    Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    This is a description of one saved not a requirement to be saved.

    If you are saved YOU WILL LOVE HIM, everything you do he causes it.

    good night and God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Adam.

    Part 2.

    The Bema Seat deals with rewards for obedience, crowns, and the call of the Bride to the Marriage of the Lamb which occurs in the Father's house.

    The Sheep and Goat Judgment is on the earth. Three separate parties are involved, and mortals are judged on the basis of their "works."

    The Great White Throne occurs at the end of the Millennium, deals with the unsaved dead, and ushers in the New Heavens, the New Earth, and the New Jerusalem.

    The Bema Seat Judgment is apparently the first order of business for the translated saints after the Harpazo. Everyone present will be "saved;" salvation is not the issue here. (That was concluded on a wooden cross erected in Judea about 2,000 years ago!) Everyone present will have been saved by the completed work of our Lord Jesus. The issue here is fruit-bearing, not salvation.

    All are building on the same foundation, but with vastly differing results.

    [ According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    1 Corinthians 3:10-11

    "Let every man take heed:" A solemn warning. We are God's Building. We are only subcontractors.

    The evaluation procedure is then detailed:

    Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, [or] wood, hay, stubble;

    1 Corinthians 3:12 (KJV)

    Notice that there are six commodities in two groups, in descending order of worth. Three are products of a God's creative act, not growth or development; three are the result of natural growth and development (from our old nature?).

    See Part 3.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Adam.

    Part 3.

    The first three are permanent. The last three will perish under fire. (The largest load of hay or wood would be worth less than the smallest diamond.)

    Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    1 Corinthians 3:13 (KJV)

    Also, notice that the "work" is being appraised, not the person. It is the work being tested by fire, not the individual. All are building on the same foundation, but the results are vastly different.

    If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

    1 Corinthians 3:14 (KJV)

    Rewards, not salvation, are the issue. Among these rewards, five crowns may be included: the Crown of righteousness, Crown of glory, Crown of life, incorruptible Crown, and Crown of rejoicing.

    Salvation is invariably presented as a free gift; rewards are earned by works (fruit-bearing).

    Salvation is a present possession; rewards are a future attainment given by Him at His Coming.

    If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

    1 Corinthians 3:15 (KJV)

    So you have been saved: what have you done with it?

    That which is done for sake of personal gain, popularity, influence, or its impression on the world, will be for naught.

    See Part 4.
  • Landry - In Reply - 10 months ago
    David921

    AMEN Brother David 921:

    As God shines light into darkness we are always repenting of the beliefs of the flesh and growing in the grace of God.

    I believe as you keep studying and God keeps teaching you, you will keep growing in truth.

    I believe you will realize that death of unbelievers is not ETERNAL; but for a specified time, he presently is gathering the priest ONLY; into the kingdom of God, then he will resurrect ALL flesh that has died in unbelief back to their flesh and blood bodies, they will be judged by Christ and his priest and brought to TRUTH, that is the second death describe in Revelation.

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature WAITETH for the MANIFESTATION of the Sons of God.

    They died in unbelief and are wanting in the grave, for the Sons of God to be gather to judge the world.

    Romans 8:21 For the creature itself ALSO (second resurrection) shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (death and the grave) into the GLORIOUS liberty of the children of God (through judgement).

    1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's WORK shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be save, YET as by FIRE (judgement).

    Isaiah 26:9 ...when thy JUDGEMENTS are in the earth, the inhabitants SHALL LEARN righteousness.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 When God has put all thing under Christ, GOD will be ALL in ALL.

    Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fullness of him that filleth ALL in ALL.

    God bless you.
  • Richard H Priday - 10 months ago
    Luke 12:3 and Matthew 12:36 are eye opening; as we are to give account for everything said and nothing is secret to God.

    I would like to say that I don't do any grumbling or complaining; but alas then I would be lying. Thankfully anything but blasphemy against the Spirit can be forgiven. As Jesus pointed out to the self-righteous Pharisees; these bad fruits come from within. And 2 Peter 2:21 makes it clear that it is better not to have known the truth than to become reprobate. The blood of Christ is our only hope as Jeremiah 17:9 shows how sick the heart is.

    There are Post Millennialists who dispute this; but I don't believe anyone from the church age who is a believer will be at the Great White Throne Judgment. I DO have the opinion that since the verse indicates that those who aren't in the Book of Life are going to the lake of fire; there is room for those who physically survive the Millennial period to go through that as saved people and hence be translated into heaven without dying.

    In any event; 1 Corinthians 3:15 indicates that one can make it into heaven and suffer loss. That would be analogous to losing rewards as Revelation 3:11 warns. Paul indicates how we run for the prize. Only a few gain great rewards; as would be indicated by those making 100 fold as opposed to 30 fold returns or others ( Mark 4:20). We should not be confined to just the saved and lost divisions when scripture gives us admonitions for certain crowns that those who persevere; are martyred or are pastors as well as other situations are given for faithfulness.

    Matthew 6:19-21 shows us that our treasure is to be in heaven. And that means that He must trust us with earthly riches as well ( Luke 16:10-12) as a test; a prerequisite for heavenly riches. Our brothers in Christ that we support in the ministry will be able to enjoy the harvest with us (see John 4:37). That and personal witnessing are components of fulfilling the Great Commission to finish well.
  • Tunney on Isaiah 13:10 - 11 months ago
    May we be faithful as we pray for our nation's leadership and their need for a relationship with our LORD JESUS CHRIST. 1 Timothy 2:9. Let us not faint or be weak; but may we go forward and reach the lost. May we be not weary of well doing, but be strong through HIS word and promises.

    We must be about the work of the LORD, making disciples as we called to do in Matthew 28: 18-20.

    As GOD is not willing that anyone should perish, 1 Peter 3:9, we must be encouraged and plant the seed, water where we can so that the LORD GOD will give the increase. 1 Corinthians 3:6

    The time is at hand where all saints are called to duty and reach out, pray up, and tell to all the salvation available in the gospel of the LORD JESUS CHRIST. Romans 10: 9-12; Acts 4:10-12.

    GOD bless all on this platform and praise the LORD on this Resurrection Sunday, 2023. GOD to shine HIS face on all, and be gracious as we await HIS coming.
  • Donna Stephens - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Amen, Brother Ronald Whittemore:

    WE are saved yet by FIRE ---- 1 Corinthians 3:13

    Our God is a consuming FIRE ---- Hebrews 12:29

    God is the WORD --- the word is GOD ---- John 1:1

    I will baptise YOU with the HOLY GHOST and FIRE

    You are BORN AGAIN by the WORD of GOD

    Every time we read and study the WORD we are being judged and baptised with the FIRE OF THE LORD

    FIRE is the judgement of GOD

    Psalms 37:28 For the Lord loveth JUDGEMENT ....

    2 Corinthians 5:10 .... we all must appear before he judgement seat .....

    1 Peter 4:17 For the TIME IS COME that JUDGEMENT must begin at the HOUSE of the LORD

    Hebrews 3:6 But Christ --- the WORD --- the SEED ---- the FIRE ---who is a son over his OWN HOUSE, whose House we are ...

    The WORD of GOD is the FIRE OF GOD

    And they were CAST ALIVE into the lake of fire --- the JUDGING WORD'S of GOD ----

    You are save and born again by FIRE and WATER --- the living fire and the living water ---- the LAKE of FIRE ----

    God bless you.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Thoughts on the Rapture and timing as well as reasoning/

    Note: I can't find the prequel as it were to this thread; so the audience may be limited. I may get into further discussion on the main discussion area but will try to sum things up here.

    A major issue here that I have opened the "can of worms" on is; in regard to just who is identified as those dressed in white garments which were made that way through blood ( Rev. 7:14 referring to robes). It certainly can be expected that the witness of the 144,000 will bring many to faith and willing martyrdom. Other verses referring those whose garments were made white make verses such as Revelation 3:4; and Zechariah 3:3 be contrasted with Ephesians 5:27. For if some in Laodicea are naked among other things; surely anyone with a garment in God's presence is saved; although it is much like Jude 1:23 being saved as though through the fire; or 1 Corinthians 3:15 where one suffers loss and not much remains after their works are burned up by and large. In other words I would argue that to have a garment in the first place we are saved; if we allow sin to spot it then there are certain ramifications; including what I propose as missing the reward of a rapture if indeed it is more than just a salvation prerequisite. I would strongly suggest in these last days; there is little fruit being produced; and the Lord of the harvest is looking for it. He will either purge us to produce more fruit ( John 15:2) or as the same verse indicates we are not His child (producing no fruit) and are eventually cut off. Again; we need to broaden our scope and see those who are unbelievers; those judged more harshly for hearing and rejecting the truth; lukewarm believers and those who are producing much fruit. We must as Hebrews suggest; believe God is a rewarder of those things done for Him ( Heb. 11:6). We also should pay attention to those seeking a better country ( Heb. 11:16) of those who willingly gave up their lives for this.
  • Saddle-Shop-Ministries - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jimbob! That was a really good to read. I'm in 1 Corinthians right now and I'm doing a sermon on (What Is A Godly Foundation?) Your comment couldn't have come at a better time. I started it off with 1 Corinthians 1:12-13 and then all of 1 Corinthians 3.

    Thanks to you I have a lot more verses/passages to look at. So thank you! God Bless!
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 86 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 86. Here; after a long succession of Psalms attributed to others; we once again find a Psalm of David. Perhaps the reader can do further investigation to determine the approximate time in David's life when this was written.

    We see in the inception of the Psalm in the first 4 verses characteristics of those which are of a "broken and contrite" spirit as Psalm 51 also describes. There is a "poor and needy" attitude (verse 2) and an attitude of submission as a servant (see verses 2 and 4). Finally; we see the characteristic of mercy in verse 3 as there apparently is a daily petition of crying to God.

    The concept of trust in verse 2 is something that should be pondered more frequently as our attitude there affects how confident we are to God being faithful to meet our needs as well as working all things to the good for those who love Him (see Romans 8:28).

    These characteristics allow us to converse and plead with God to attend to our requests (verse 6) and to answer in the day of trouble (verse 7). This is contrasted with such verses as Micah 3:4 and others which show the Lord will not hear the cry of the wicked in the day of their calamity because they are trying to avoid the consequences of their sins and sadly are too late for His saving Grace. Therefore; we must heed to not blowing God off; thinking that His patience will endure until we decide we are ready to "accept" Him. Salvation involves a relationship on HIS TERMS and according to His sovereign will and plans; of which we only can see a glimpse. These stipulations also are predicated on worshipping the true God (verse 8) and not the idols that other nations extol at their own peril ( Judges 16:29). In that story Sampson was shown in the end to know the Lord but reminds us of 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 of those who suffer loss of reward due to sinful living. The wicked there; nonetheless died in the midst of idol worship which should be a strong warning against any false religions today.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Further thoughts on God working things out for the good.

    Scripture; of course is our guide to all truth ( 2 Tim. 3:16). The overarching theme of the Bible is God's big picture from the Creation to the downfall of man; to final restoration of both body and soul of mankind; as well as nature and in the end the whole universe. We certainly can look at God putting Satan on a string who puts men on a string. When our identity is in Christ as His adopted sons and daughters ( Romans 8:14-17 etc) then we are part of the whole army of God and hence we shall rule and reign with Christ someday ( 2 Tim. 2:12; and parts of Revelation). We are part of those who are of the great "cloud of witnesses" ( Hebrews 12:1 which summarizes Hebrews 11 the "heroes" of the faith. What is done to us in some sense is done to Christ Himself ( Matt. 25:40). Whoever destroys the Temple of God will himself be destroyed ( 1 Corinthians 3:17); and blessed are those saints who die in the Lord ( Psalm 115:16; again see Revelation)

    Hence; death itself is to be something looked forward to ( Philippians 1:23). It is indeed the "last enemy that shall be destroyed" ( 1 Cor. 15:26). In the meantime; as Paul also stated "I die daily" ( 1 Cor. 15:31). In Christ we can appreciate the experience of a slow death of the outer man so that the inner man can reach glorification. Keep in mind that it is the health and vitality of our soul that counts for eternity; all men will be Resurrected but it is the TYPE of resurrection that is important.

    None of this; certainly takes away from the wisdom that we should have in regard to avoiding problems when we are able and it doesn't contradict God's plans for us; or of course for troubles that result from our own sin ( James 1:14-15). May it be that it won't happen to us as believers but sadly that's what it takes for some ( 1 Cor. 11:30 for the extreme example of an early earthly demise in certain cases). Better saved through the fire than not at all ( 1 Cor 3:15
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    J Vernon Mcgee.

    Part 12.

    Obviously, this is not evangelism at all. Rather it is judgment that is going to come upon this earth.

    This is the scriptural picture of harvest.

    Did the apostle Paul say that he was harvesting? In the Corinthian church there were divisions on several subjects. One of the problems was that some of them liked Apollos better than they liked Paul, and some liked Simon Peter more than they liked either one of the other two. Over this they were dividing the church - which was wrong. To divide churches on the basis of personalities is always wrong. Listen to Paul as he deals with this matter in his first letter to the Corinthians:

    Who, then, is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? ( 1 Corinthians 3:5)

    Now see if Paul understood that he was out harvesting:

    I have planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. So, then, neither is he that planteth anything, neither he that watereth, but God that giveth the increase. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one; and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labor. ( 1 Corinthians 3:6-8)

    Paul said that he was planting the Word. All we can do is plant. It is the Holy Spirit who gives the increase.

    You see, sowing seed is a picture of Scripture. My business is sowing seed. What is your business? And, by the way, how is business? Are you sowing seed in this world? This is our business today.

    Now let us understand something else very clearly. If you sow seed, there will be a harvest. The psalmist speaks of this:

    He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him. ( Psalm 126:6)

    See Part 12.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi. Allelee.

    The Apostles lais the foundation in which we are to build upon.

    Jesus is the Cornerstone. ( In building the Cornerstone is the first and most important part of the foundation. The rest of the building depends on It's perfection. afterwards the foundation is layed. (THE APOSTLES)

    Then the comes the building. (US.)

    Once the building has started there is no need of another foundation. This is what Christ was saying in Matthew 16:18. " upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

    HE was speaking of himself referencing Peters answer. ( Matthew 16:16 "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    Ephesians 2:19-22. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

    And are built upon the FOUNDATION OF THE APOSTLES AND PROPHETS, Jesus Christ himself being the chief CORNER STONE;

    In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

    In whom YE ALSO ARE BUILDED TOGETHER FOR AN HABITATION of God through the Spirit.

    Also see.

    1 Corinthians 3:10-11 (KJV) According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

    For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    1 Peter 4:17. part 2.

    Now Peter is not talking about judgment as far as salvation goes and I am not getting into that here!

    But I would like to draw our attention to a few verses.

    1 Corinthians 3:12-15. Now if any man build upon this foundation GOLD, SILVER, PRECIOUS STONES, WOOD, HAY, STUBBLE;

    EVERY MAN'S WORK SHALL BE MADE MANIFEST: FOR THE DAY SHALL DECLARE IT, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

    If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

    Revelation 3:17-18. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

    I COUNSEL THEE TO BUY OF ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

    LAODICEANS.

    Revelation 3:14-20.

    This seems to be a prideful group!

    "I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;"

    ( They were spiritually bankrupted and didn't know it.)

    Look at the position of our Lord.

    Behold, I STAND AT THE DOOR, AND KNOCK: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Revelation 3:20

    The Lord is on the outside calling individuals out.

    Being wealthy doesn't put them in their wretchedness, it is the pride behind it.

    This type of pride can come by all forms of work of our own hands when void of the Spirit.

    The local Church today covets bodies more than they do truth.

    Individually we covet Gods glory more than fruit barring.

    The door here is a picture of the human heart.

    If Christ is not in it our works is wood hay and stubble.

    1 Corinthians 3:16-21.

    More to come

    God bless.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I think what is missing in all of this theological discussion is the personal role the Spirit of God plays with an individual believer.

    1 Corinthians 3:16 states that we are the Temple of God now. Thus; as Colossians 2:9 states the "fullness of the Godhead bodily" showed how Christ was fully God and fully man; but also he had the "Spirit without measure". ( John 3:34). We as believers in the N.T. times since Christ's atonement go immediately to heaven after death (see Hebrews 9:27; 2 Cor. 5:8). We are "sealed with the Spirit" ( Eph. 1:13-14) from the moment we are saved (that is TRULY saved); hence the Spirit dwells in us (see John 14:23).

    We can look at the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) as the pneuma in some extent; or what is breathed into us from above much as the soul of man had life given to it when we are born the first time. God therefore rules over all and determines times and seasons; Christ is the 2nd member of the "Godhead" hence in accordance with God's plan became the sin offering for our redemption and thus was "given" all authority over heaven and earth ( Matthew 28:18-20).

    When He humbled Himself a man; he trusted totally in the Spirit to do His miracles as an example for us to do the same. Clearly; there were certain things which are at least primarily limited to the Apostolic era. Nonetheless; we are told to "bear fruits worthy (meet) of repentance ( Matt. 3:8 and elsewhere). There are characteristics of a Spirit filled life; and also various gifts or manifestations given by God to every believer (see 1 Cor. 12). PRIMARILY; the Spirit of Christ brings forth to convict the world of "sin; righteousness and judgment to come." ( John 16:8-11). We know we are one of His children if we have a new heart ( Ezekiel 36:26); and of course if we trust God; obey Him and obey Him to the best of our ability. We desire God and the Spirit will convict us (he chastises all He loves). ( Heb. 12:6 etc).

    I pray that you have a personal experience with the Lord
  • S Spencer - 1 year ago
    The birth of the Apostles.

    UPON THIS ROCK I SHALL BUILD MY CHURCH.

    He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    And Simon Peter answered and said, THOU ART THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. Matthew 16:15-16

    Ephesians 2:19-20 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

    And are built upon the FOUNDATION OF THE APOSTLES AND PROPHETS, Jesus Christ himself being the chief CORNER STONE;

    In Luke 6:13 we see that Jesus chose who he would name Apostles.

    "And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;

    The question is when did the disciples start operating in the office of Apostles?

    When was the foundation laid?

    1 Corinthians 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

    Are we capable of building with gold, silver and precious stone without the dwelling of the Holyspirit?

    We do know in Matthew 28:16-17 even after Jesus resurrected the disciples still doubted.

    "Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

    And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted."

    In Matthew 28:18-20 Jesus commissioned them to go out to all the world but not to depart from Jerusalem until they were filled with the Holyspirit.

    Acts 1:4-5. Luke 24:49.

    I believe not until they were filled with the Spirit that rock the church was built on begun. The disciples began to function in the office as Apostles.

    Ephesians 4:10-12. He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

    AND HE GAVE SOME, APOSTLES; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

    For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

    He didn't do this until he ascended.

    God bless.
  • Ronnette on 1 Corinthians 4 - 1 year ago
    To the saints on this site:

    1 Corinthians 4:5 speaks volume to us since saints understand the mysteries revealed to the faithful and Romans 1:6 & Romans 8:28. For saints know Isaiah 5:20. We are where we are today. God is so great to allow us to do things in life in our own free will where in the end The Glory belongs to God. God allowed me to have worked with great scientists in America with great heart. I do not need to understand and question everything at the spare of the moment. I just know the paths God lead me in was not to question authorities in the land. God has the heavenly plans and those are what I am and every saint must be very excited about. When you walk in the Spirit of God, you are like in a trance. Next thing you know someone tells you on earth job well done. Not to boast but again and again to Glorify God because He helped you to do job well done. I can control only me and hopefully have a strong influence with my family and friends and anybody that touches my life to follow God as I walk the walk and talk the talk. Even 1 Timothy 5:4 saints take it to heart. All is good with God James 1:17 and all are Your's 1 Corinthians 3:21-23. I know It is easy said and done here on earth. We all have afflictions and to some unbearable 2 Corinthians 6:4. I thank God for the blood of Jesus Christ for that power is in everyone who put his trust, faith and believe in that He will never leaves you. Psalms 91 memorize!

    The Spirit speaks to you 1 Peter 3:13, 3 John 1:11. Be in Spirit so you can 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 Thessalonians 5:15. Philippians 2:13 and Ephesians 1:9. Saints, Ephesians 4:29

    There are more heavenly things I can share but I like to inspire you with this testimony Colossians 1:27. Let us all grow in true Charity 1 Corinthians 13:4-8, the bond of perfectness Colossians 3:14. In conclusion 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18. Happy Sunday with the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace to ALL.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Andy, while the Bible doesn't specifically address that, we know its a sin because Exodus 20:13 says not to kill that would be violating that exact command by destroying God's creation. 1 Corinthians 3:16-17. We are made in His image and are priceless. The bodies we temporarily inhabit are God's holy temples that belong to God and not us.

    This topic is asked fairly often and some may be asking for others and some for themselves. In the event you are having such thoughts yourself, please let us know so we can listen to you and offer support. There are hotlines and sites online specifically designed for that too.

    It may be a surprise to know how many people know what its like to be in that place by personal experience. To the person in the valley, the temporary struggles often like blinders and makes it hard to see clearly realities outside of that limited thinking. God always provides a way out, even if we don't notice it right away. People usually need a radical paradigm shift and something like volunteering to help people can accomplish that. God is there to help ease or burdens and His body of believers is there to offer support. God bless.

    Psalm 34:17-20
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Fred.

    Paul said it best.

    1 Corinthians 3:11. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    God bless you.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Luke.

    That's easily seen in scripture.

    The Church didn't bring on the man child "Christ". Revelation 12:5. and Revelation 19:15-16.

    Christ brought on the Church!!

    Here's just two of many.

    Matthew 16:18.

    1 Corinthians 3:10-11.

    As you said Israel is the woman and she brought on the man child who is Christ. " Romans 9:4-5."

    Also Revelation 12:1. parallels with Genesis 37:9-10. It gives a description of who the Sun and the Moon and the twelve stars are.

    Now hold on to your hat!

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi again Mark.

    The sum of it all.

    God had the Gospel in mind before the foundation of the world,

    Jesus Christ the Cornerstone and

    the Apostles layed the foundation.

    see here

    Ephesians 2:19-22.

    We are to build upon with precious stone and the blueprint was in God's hand before the foundation of the world.

    see here

    1 Corinthians 3:10-12.

    Here you have all of what's involved in this building mentioned in Ephesians 2:21.

    God had the blueprint in his hand before the world began.

    God bless
  • Ronnette - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 1 year ago
    Hello David:

    Yes I understood the same way you do. I just wanted to ensure that we saved as many people on this site. That is why it is important to take time to explain based on the Bible. The Book of Acts is a transitional book. Luke did a magnificent job inspired by God writing the chain of events after Jesus Christ died on the cross. Peter and the rest of the Apostles concentrated on preaching to the Jews, but when they have rejected it three times Paul went to the Gentiles. But Jews and Gentiles today can be saved by the mystery of the Gospel of Paul 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. We are saved by grace through faith. We are baptized by trusting on Jesus Christ's death, burial and resurrection meaning trusting on the blood of Jesus Christ. Christ Jesus already went to the most Holiest of Holy to sprinkle His own blood as the Jews did on earth. So anybody today can be saved by that blood. Once you are saved, the mysteries are revealed by the Holy Spirit. We are the Body of Christ, the Bride of Christ, knowing Christ in you.

    Romans 16:25; Galatians 1:9-12; Galatians 2:1-14; Acts 15:11; Roman's 2:16; 1 Peter 1:10-12; 1Peter 1:18-20;

    1Corinthians 4:1

    Colossians 1:18; Colossians 1:24-27; Ephesians 1:13; Romans 8:9-11; Ephesians 4:30; 1 Corinthians 3:16 and many more I can share. So knowing we are saved, we know the mystery of the rapture. 1 Corinthians 15:50-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

    Romans 9:1; 2 Corinthians 11:31; Galatians 1:20; 1 Timothy 2:7

    Revelation 3:3. We are watching and praying with thanksgiving.

    We are on the last days and we want all to be saved. We are here on earth to fulfill God's purpose - To trust God and to do God's will. Nothing of anything good we do. Rejoice evermore! I am so happy to communicate with you David. Have a blessed weekend.


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