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1 Corinthians 16 KJV Bible discussions
 
  • Momsage - 2 months ago
    Christianlady7

    Some have said, since Jesus is our rest we don't need the 4th commandment and yet, do we "rest" in Jesus at all? Those who believe we not longer need to honor this commandment say the Early Church stopped worshiping on the Sabbath and changed to the first day of the week after the death and resurrection of Christ. These are the two scriptures they usually refer to as showing this.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." (Paul is just asking the church to gather donations on the first day of each week for when he comes, it doesn't in any way point to them having to be in church to do this just because he asked them to on the first day of the week)

    Romans 14:5 "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight." (Modern day churches don't always have fellowship and worship on Sunday. They do it on any day if it's something they want to do, a service besides their normal church on Sunday. So on this Sunday the church just got together to listen to Paul preach because he had to leave the next day. Nothing is said that this is a regular church service for them.)

    There are historical quotes that indicate that the Early Church continued to honor the Sabbath until about 100AD when ravening wolves entered in and things kind of got into a mess so Emperor Constantine, at the Laodician Council in 345AD, made it a law that the day of worship was Sunday the first day of the week. By then the wolves were in charge of the church, it was no longer God's, and pretty much went along with it and that's why people do it today. (Except me.:) Here are some of the quotes:
  • Richard H Priday - 2 months ago
    Study on Sabbath day

    Acts 20:7 makes clear that gathering of the saints occurred on the first day of the week to bolster the collection made according to 1 Corinthians 16:2. The prescident is really from the fact that Christ fulfilled Pentacost which was the 8th day of the week (or Sunday) in the O.T. times was celebrated 50 days after the Passover.

    Since we are not to have certain days to be held above others as Romans 14:5-6 indicates; we have no right to dictate either Saturday or Sunday for worship as I see it. Again; the Old Testament command was for Israel specifically as anyone in the land who disrespected the Sabbath was severely punished (see Deuteronomy 5:14). Other laws in the Old Testament such as marriage were clearly upheld even with pagan societies (as we see with the case of John the Baptist when he was imprisoned for contesting with the marriage status of a secular leader married to his brother's wife). Murder was evident with Cain well before the law came out. The fact is that Saturday worship can no longer be as it was without the sacrifices and other ordinances of the O.T. times which have been gone since the temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Christ is our Passover now ( 1 Corinthians 5:7) and the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath ( Matthew 12:8).

    We also need to consider what Paul stated to those who were coming from pagan societies. He said in Acts 15:29 to avoid eating blood; or strangled animals (often done in pagan rituals) as well as sexual immorality. If Saturday worship was required you would expect something would be mentioned as all other things in the Commandments which are throughout the New Testament in the Gospels and Epistles.

    There are further concerns with Adventist doctrines and Ellen White which I am not going to get into detail here; but this often is an added reason for this and other issues of contention. I agree that the edict of Milan enforcing Sunday worship is wrong also.
  • Momsage - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Please show biblical proof that the early church worshiped on the first day of the week. The two verses that are usually stated are the only ones I've seen used for this belief but consider a different interpretation; 1 Corinthians 16:2 This verse only states that Paul asked the church members to collect donations on the first day of the week for when he came again. Nothing is said that it was done at church services. Roman 14:5 Does your church only meet on Sunday to fellowship and hear preaching and teaching? This verse is just speaking of believers gathering on A Sunday to fellowship and listen to Paul preach because he had to leave the next day. It doesn't interpret as abolishing their regular worshiping on the Sabbath.

    The Holy Catholic Church was involved in changing the sabbath to Sunday, these historical quotes, among others, proves it.

    "The PRIMITIVE (my emphasis) Christians did keep the Sabbath of the Jews before the Christians for a long time together, did keep their convocations upon the Sabbath in which some portions of the law were read and this continued till the time of the Laodician Council." The whole Works of Jeremy Taylor, Vol. IX p416

    "It was the Holy Catholic Church that changed the day of rest form Saturday to Sunday, the first day of the week. And it not only compelled all to keep Sunday, but at the Council of Laodician, AD 364, anathematized (cursed) those who kept the Sabbath and urged all persons to labor on the 7th day under penalty of anathema (excommunication.)" Catholic Priest T. Enright,

    CSSRR, Kansas city, Mo (The Holy Catholic Church was involved with Laodicean Council , taking serious steps to put a stop to Christians still worshipping on the sabbath hundred of years after Christ.)

    Please use scripture and historical proof for your comments. GOD COMMANDED us to rest and worship Him on one particular day of the week in one particular way. As for me I choose to obey God not man.

    God Bless :)
  • Momsage - 2 months ago
    To disregard this sure and steadfast commandment that God intended for our good pleasure is so sad. All of the other commandments are to be obeyed so we will live the holy life God intends for us to live to gain Heaven, but the 4th commandment is for our physical, emotional and spiritual good. It is a gift we try to give back to God and say "no thanks," however, it is also a commandment and God said if we love Him we will obey His commandments because they do not cause us to be burdened. 1 John: 5:3 and Luke 6: 13-14

    Nothing in these verses below tells us to replace the Sabbath with the beautiful rest of Jesus. We are steadfastly in His rest as long as we are true believers.

    Matthew 11:28-29 "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls."

    Acts 2:26 "Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope."

    Thessalonians 1:6-7 "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels."

    1 Corinthians 16:2 "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." (Paul is just asking the church to gather donations on the first day of each week for when he comes, it doesn't in any way point to them having to be in church to do this.)

    Romans 14:5 "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."(Question? Does your church only meet on Sunday to fellowship and hear preaching and teaching? This verse is just speaking of believers gathering on a Sunday to fellowship and listen to Paul preach because he had to leave the next day. It doesn't interpret as abolishing their regular worshiping on the Sabbath.)
  • Momsage - 2 months ago
    OTHER VERSES OF IMPORTANCE:

    1 Corinthians 16:2 "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, t

    Romans 14:5 "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."(Question? Does your church only meet on Sunday to fellowship and hear preaching and teaching? Is Sunday the only day of the week you might hear preaching from the minister? This verse just tells of believers gathering on Sunday to fellowship and listen to Paul preach because he had to leave the next day. It doesn't interpret as abolishing their regular worshiping on the Sabbath.)

    Collisians 2:14 & 16 "Blotting out the handwriting of ORDINANCES (my caps) that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His cross; Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or the new moon or of the sabbath days." (This judgment is speaking of situations on the sabbath as when David fed his men shewbread that was only to be eaten by the Jewish Priests on the Sabbath. 1 Samuel 21:1-6, Christ feeding His disciples from the cornfield on a Sabbath. Matthew 1:21 and pulling an ox out of a ditch on the Sabbath. Luke 14:5; if there are things that needed to be done out of necessity on the Sabbath, you should not let men judge you for doing that.)

    I don't know how any of the verses I noted can be interpreted as showing that the early church willingly changed it's weekly worship and fellowship from the sabbath to the first day of the week. As I presented, there is historical proof that they didn't. As the "ravening wolves in sheep clothing" ( Matthew 7:15) began to creep into the church, a change was eventually made to abolish the sabbath and worship and refrain form labor on Sunday. Constantine and the Catholic Church mainly changed it and the world followed.

    God Bless :)
  • Momsage - 2 months ago
    PART 6

    OTHER VERSES OF IMPORTANCE:

    1 Corinthians 16:" Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." This can't be the Sabbath, Paul is asking them to do work.

    Romans 14:5 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. Question? Does your church only meet on Sunday to fellowship and hear preaching and teaching? Is Sunday the only day of the week you might hear preaching from the minister? This verse just tells of believers gathering on Sunday to fellowship and listen to Paul preach because he had to leave the next day which was the Sabbath.

    ( Col. 2:14 & 16 God." Blotting out the handwriting of ORDINANCES (my caps) that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His cross; Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or the new moon or of the sabbath days: In the 10 Commandments of God there is only 1 day that God commanded us to keep hollowed out for Him for our good; the sabbath. There were other sabbath days during festivals that were not all on Saturday but were kept during the festivals that were a week or longer. These were sabbath dayS. The statues and ordinances in Moses' laws is what this verse is talking about but, not the commandment, if you don't agree with me and believe it is talking about the last day of the week, let me give you an example of this verse's meaning: A friend calls you on a Saturday and says he needs your help right away moving some things out of a garage he was storing them in because the person who owns the garage said if he doesn't do it immediately they were going to haul it all of to the dump. So you help your friend move his things. A lot of work, that took some time.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Brother Carleton.

    Part 2.

    Here's is your response to the original post.

    "Hello brother Spencer, Good evening! Thinking of doctrine, the Church practice of

    giving and taking reproof by love maybe is part of what you are thinking? Church discipline and restoration?

    God bless the walk.

    Brother Carleton, That I absolutely agree with! However, that is not in the context of this message.

    This message is more in line with Jude 1:3-4 with the focus on what is mentioned in verse 4 "For there are certain men crept in unawares,"

    This has the thought of some has come into the fold sort of like through a back door.

    Jude 1:10-15. He describes them. They are not Brothern. They are not Sheep.

    As for "A Holy kiss.

    Does the bible say greet "them" with a Holy kiss? No, I don't think so.

    Romans 10:8-10 says the words is ni thy mouth.

    These words is what we can confess to others if asked by what means are you saved.

    However, what about the guy whom from his heart "by his mouth" speaks against truth?

    We don't judge his present spiritual condition; he's done it ALREADY by refusing to believe and enter in the straight and narrow gate. See Matthew 7:13-15. and John 3:18.

    What do these verses concerning a Holy kiss have in common? This Holy kiss is for the Brothern.

    1 Corinthians 16:20.

    2 Corinthians 13:11-12.

    1 Thessalonians 5:26.

    Romans 16:16.

    The Holy kiss wasn't only meant to express love for the Brothern.

    The Holy kiss is meant to express acceptance especially at a time when Gentiles was coming into the fold.

    It certainly wasn't for non-believers.

    Look at 2 John1:10. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed.

    Also see Romans 16:17-18.

    Does open rebuke harm a brother?

    Open rebuke is better than secret love.

    Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. Proverbs 27:5-6.

    See Part 3
  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    End of introduction to OSAS

    Once saved always saved is kind of like the word "Rapture"; the verses about being sealed with the Spirit until the Day of Redemption ( Eph. 4:30) basically indicate that once HIS work is completed we cannot "undo" it. We have passed from "death to life" ( John 5:24) if we truly believe; and 1 John 3:14 shows the same author indicating EVIDENCE through loving one another (specifically the brethren) that we are saved; as well as showing that if WE DON'T we are liars and the truth is not in us ( 1 John 4:20).

    My first point is that there is always evidence of the Hope that is within us if it truly exists ( 1 Peter 3:15). The second point goes with it that we preach the truth; any other Gospel is "anathema" ( Gal. 1:8-9). Interestingly; 1 Corinthians 16:22 2 verses before the end of the book state that if any man does NOT love the Lord Jesus Christ let him be "anathema". These two verses domenstate we need truth and love; one doesn't work independently of the other.

    I will make a general statement for my third point. The more knowledge we have; the more responsibility we have. Hence; there is greater punishment for those who walk away from the truth and go back to the world than those who never knew it in the first place ( 1 Peter 2:20-21). We only need to look at Lucifer himself to see how pride brought his judgment without mercy; since he was a Cheribum that led worship of music in heaven itself for an unknown time; created perfect in all his ways before that time ( Ezekiel 28:15).

    The fourth point is related to the third; that much head knowledge apart from the inner man being renewed daily ( 2 Cor. 4:16) is at best a fruitless venture; at worst again leads to greater damnation without accompanying faith. Such a man often obsesses on one doctrine and ignores the integrity of all scripture; or worse can justify a sin by not being a Berean and "rightly dividing the Word" ( 2 Tim. 2:15) despite what all their church friends may say.
  • Nomatter7326 - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Amen David & Greetings!

    Knowing that God is a God of order & the simplicity in Christ Jesus & Jesus tells us to follow Apostle Paul & His establishment commandment.

    Thus, we read daily starting in Romans & when we are done for that day take a tassel & mark that ( where we will begin to read the next day) & do our daily business

    Later we read again in Genesis & when done tassel that page. Romans 16:26 so each day we continue this (and will read Ro to Rev.) many times more as we progress through the scriptures of the prophets

    Then when we completed Acts, "Proclaiming God wins and the devil loses"! Restart the same process again

    I had alway wondered why there were 2 tassels for years & that is why

    We are truly justified in Romans 3:24-26 equals Gods free gift! (Please also note Ro. Chapters 9/10/11 where Paul is speaking to his brethren/ Israelites/ at that present time beseeching them & only them to perform Ro. 10:9 and know praying is a work & how the Jews at that present time in life THEY would be accepted by The Lord.

    Many publishers like Gideon's for example had in the beginning of there book (1941-1958) where to find Salvation also listed Romans 3:24-26 !!! Then satan got more involved derailing souls to Ro. 10:9 in 1960's until present day! 2023.

    My soul would be damned doomed for leading you wrongly

    1 Corinthians 16:22

    If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

    Luke 17:2

    It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

    Hopefully David, you do understand I wouldn't be with my brothers & sisters in Christ and in His Kingdom later in time, if i was leading any soul wrongly

    The writing of Paul's gospels = Doctrine Reproof and correction

    Romans doctrine Corinthians doctrine with reroof & correction and such

    Being only one writing to the Galatians & not knowing how many of them are above!
  • I Am A Real Baptist Brider 1979 - In Reply - 10 months ago
    XXI. OF THE GRACE OF TITHING AND GIVING

    I believe God's plan of finance for His Baptist Church's is to be tithes and offerings. Scriptural giving is one of the fundamentals of the faith. I believe that every Believer, as a steward of that portion of God's wealth entrusted to him or her, is obligated to support his or her Baptist Church financially. I believe that God has established the tithe as a basis of giving but that every Believer should also give other offerings sacrificially and cheerfully to the support of his or her Baptist Church for the relief of those in need, and the spread of the Gospel. I believe that Church members are commanded to bring their tithes and offerings into the Storehouse (Common Treasury) of their Baptist Church upon the first day of the week (Sunday). I believe that a Believer relinquishes all rights to direct the use of the tithe or offering once the gift has been made. I believe under grace we give, and do not pay, the tithe - "Abraham GAVE a tenth part of all." "Abraham GAVE the tenth part of the spoils," and this was four hundred years before the Law, and is confirmed in the New Testament, the Lord Jesus Himself said concerning the tithe, "... these ought ye to have done ..." ( Genesis 14:20; Leviticus 27:30; Proverbs 3:9, 10; Malachi 3:10; Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42; Acts 4:34, 35, 37; 1 Corinthians 16:2; 2 Corinthians 8:7; 2 Corinthians 9:6, 7; Galatians 6:6; Ephesians 4:28; 1 Timothy 5:17, 18; Hebrews 7:2, 4; 1 John 3:17).
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Dc730banks. All we are given in the Bible is that Jesus arose from the grave (sepulchre) on the "first day of the week", i.e. after the end of the Sabbath Day which was at sundown on the seventh day (Saturday): Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2,9.

    Jesus was taken down from the Cross & laid in the sepulchre prior to the commencement of the Sabbath (i.e. before Friday sundown), was in the grave the rest of Friday night, all day Saturday, & into the early hours of Sunday (considered three days). Then it was at day-break Sunday that the two Marys went to the sepulchre & learned that Jesus had risen from the dead. And this first day of the week (Sunday), was celebrated by the apostles & early Church (as it is now) in Christian fellowship, teaching & communion ( Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2).
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 3 - 1 year ago
    Page 1.

    Hi Ani. GiGi has shared accurately with you and I would like to add some more thoughts for your study & consideration.

    I'm unsure where you obtained this particular Bible study book from, as it's clearly slanted towards 'keeping of the Law'. Does your Church support this teaching or are you doing this study by personal choice?

    Firstly, the Jewish Sabbath has always been the Saturday (from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday) & was given to Israel as part of the other commandments for them to observe ( Exodus 20:8-11). Why was this particular Command given? It was the seventh day when the LORD ceased from His Work of creating & it was for a remembrance when God brought out His people "with a mighty hand & a stretched out arm": i.e. from the perennial state of bondage & hard labor in Egypt to a time of liberty & rest. Even when Israel collected their food (Manna) while in the desert, they were not allowed to gather it on the seventh day ( Exodus 16:19-30), indicating the sanctity of the Sabbath Day.

    Secondly, the Christian observance of Sunday, is not a redefining of the Jewish Sabbath - it is what is termed, the Lord's Day ( Revelation 1:10), or the First Day of the Week ( Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2) - never the Sabbath.

    Thirdly, the Church is not required to observe the Jewish Sabbath as we were never in bondage in Egypt & brought into Canaan. We were however, once in bondage to sin & the flesh & now given a glorious forgiveness & release into the Lord's Rest. See Matthew 11:28-30 and Hebrews 4:1-11. Not only is the Christian given Christ's Peace in his heart, but also a resulting rest that comes only from Him. And yet, there is also a coming rest ( Hebrews 4:9), where the word here is 'sabbatismos', or Sabbath Rest: a rest in God's Presence that will be one continual Sabbath Rest, when our earthly toils & hardships are finally over.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Mark 2 - 1 year ago
    The verse "the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath" ( Matthew 12:8) does seem to show that there is a justification for it to now be the day of rest and worship. We see evidence elsewhere of disciples meeting the "first day of the week" in Acts 15:30 and 20:7. Collections are also to be made on that day according to 1 Corinthians 16:9; but in that case it seemed to be specifically for Paul and it doesn't seem to indicate that was when they would always fellowship together. Colossians 2:16 could also relate to not disputing when we meet together. It doesn't seem any demand is to meet on Sunday; and Messianic Jews still do so on Saturday.

    The verse about the Sabbath being made for man indicates that there is a superior principle involved. Namely; those things called "works" on the Sabbath that were added laws to the original statute were not to be considered legitimate. Whereby; a legitimate need such as eating; feeding animals; or healing men were frequently used as examples of how those principles of mercy; love and justice were to supercede superficial legalistic practices. Thus; Jesus would quote the scripture about Daniel and the shewbread as justification for His actions and that of the disciples. Those laws that were in effect specifically for the Jews were eventually superceded by grafting in of Jews and Gentiles; and since Christ is God in the flesh honoring Pentecost (which had a significant prophetic indication of Christ's fulfillment at the Ascencion after the Resurrection) we now are under grace. We are now under a New Covenant; which allows us to fulfill the law as He ever lives to intercede for us and His Spirit remains within us. (see Hebrews 7:25; Ephesians 1:13-14). There is no Temple; and animal sacrifices hence Jews have no way to follow former purification rites. We can choose to rest on Saturdays; or Sundays as I see it-just as we can still celebrate the Passover. Obviously there is much controversy here on this subject.
  • Chris - In Reply on Malachi 1 - 1 year ago
    Hello Vicki. Ps. Dollar would have quoted from Malachi 3:8-10. He would probably also have said that this passage pertained to Israel who neglected to perform all that was required of them. In one passage ( Deuteronomy 12:6,11), the LORD instructed Israel that when they got to the Promised Land, that all their sacrifices, offerings, tithes, & vows were to come over as well & nothing to be left behind or undone. But in Malachi, the tithes that were made (the tenth of their farm produce gain) were not being brought forward & kept back by them. These tithes were needed & used by the priests & Levites serving at the Tabernacle for their support.

    This command of tithing wasn't given nor applied to the Church, as the Church (at least in New Testament times), didn't have paid clergy or even a rented building & utilities supplied. Their giving was for the needs of one another & maybe their community ( Acts 2:41-47), thereby fulfilling the Command of Christ to love the LORD thy God and to love your neighbour as yourself. But as the Church grew & spread, the Apostle Paul made the believers aware that some of their Jerusalem brethren weren't doing so well in material things. So Paul sometimes collected stuff to take to them ( 1 Corinthians 16:1-3). So apart from these instances of providing relief to those in need, we don't read that tithing was practised. Rather, that Christians should not give grudgingly but willingly & cheerfully ( 2 Corinthians 9:6-8).

    So, as much as tithing is not prescribed for the Church today, I believe that it should be a proper & sacrificial response to help in the support of a Church ministry, that now has far more expenses than the early Church. And not limited to a tenth on one's earnings, but also to share more if possible for other programs & missionary endeavours of the Church. But we're not limited to giving ten percent nor are we compelled to do so.
  • D W L - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jo M Mingua

    Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

    1 Corinthians 9:6 - 11

    1 Timothy 5:18 For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

    When you are hunting for a church - be sure you are looking for the truth. Read and study willing to except the Word. May the Lord Bless you
  • Ronnette - In Reply on Ephesians 1 - 1 year ago
    My Sister in Christ Sea:

    Thank you for your kind response.

    "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." 1 Corinthians 1:10 KJV

    "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye." 1 Corinthians 16:1 KJV

    The WORD OF GOD is so powerful that speaks to everyone that believes.

    Philippians 4:8

    Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

    Philippians 4:9

    Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

    Romans 15:13

    Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

    I love to know you as a daughter of God and a Saint here on earth.

    I pray for all saints. Our encouragement to one another makes us stronger here on earth while waiting to see Jesus Christ in the clouds.
  • Ronnette - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Louise:

    I love the fact that God covered every precious word.

    1 Corinthians 4:4

    For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

    I prayed and God gave me these verses that I may grow in them.

    1 Corinthians 16:14

    Let all your things be done with charity.

    1 Corinthians 13:4

    Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

    1 Corinthians 13:5

    Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

    1 Corinthians 13:6

    Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

    Colossians 3:14

    And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

    Exodus 14:14

    The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.

    Grace unto you and peace from our Father in Heaven and The Lord Jesus Christ.
  • Chris - In Reply on Isaiah 58 - 1 year ago
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    4. So which is the Sabbath Day? The Sabbath was given only to Israel ( Exodus 31:12-17) - no one else. It, along with Circumcision, marked them as 'belonging to the LORD'. No other people or nation ever received this, or any other, Law to obey. The Gentiles coming to Christ after the Gospel was preached & received, were never compelled to come under the Law in any shape or form. How could they be brought under the Law that only killed? Efforts were made to bring them under the Law, but that was rejected ( Galatians 2:11-21). For indeed, "if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain." The Jewish Sabbath, along with all Laws, was cast aside, having no more bearing on the one 'in Christ'. Our righteousness, given by God, can never be from the Laws to obey or the Sabbath to observe - our righteousness is found in Christ alone, Who not only perfectly fulfilled the whole Law on our behalf, but opened the "new & living way", that only by His Power can we ever properly do His Will.

    As soon as we appeal to the Laws, even the Sabbath, we place ourselves under them, & by them we will be judged. And Sunday (the first day of the week) has never been a Sabbath for those in Christ - it is & always has been the day prescribed to be set aside to come together for worship ( Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2).
  • Tithes and Offerings Unto God__through the local Church - In Reply - 1 year ago
    2 Corinthians 9:7 - Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a CHEERFUL giver.

    Malachi 3:8-12 - Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

    Malachi 3:10 - Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

    Matthew 6:1-4 - Take heed that ye do not your giving before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

    Matthew 23:23 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    Luke 6:38 - Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye give withal it shall be measured to you again.

    Luke 11:42 - But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    Luke 18:12 - I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. [don't brag]

    Acts 2:44-47 - And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

    Acts 20:35 - I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 - Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 2 Corinthians 8:1-24

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  • Giannis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes, Dear Junnybug, your pastor is right about that "where we still give as we feel led to and where we feel led to", although in my opinion this has nothing to do with the Law that was fulfilled by Jesus, simply such a thing is not mentioned in the NT.

    On the contary, Paul in his epistle to 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 is very clear about it. "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come".

    See also 2 Corinthians 9:7 "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver" If there would still be tenths he wouldn't ask this but he would demand that corinthians kept the commadement.

    No one can demand such thing.

    Paul in his last meeting with the elders of Ephesus Acts 20:17-36 (see v 33-35) asks them to serve the members of the church there free, like he was always doing. Why? Because he didn't want them to put such a heavy weight on christians there. So how about asking now for 10%? No, certainly not. GBU
  • Jesse - In Reply on 1 Samuel 4 - 1 year ago
    Michelle,

    This is what I learned about 1 Corinthians 16:13. It says, "quit you like men." "And like a man, I've quit several times!" Just kidding, that is not what it means. It's literally one Greek word that means be a man. Moreover, it is associated with courage! Remember what God told Joshua in Joshua 1:8-11? Be of courage Joshua for I am with you wherever you go. So it's not a human courage. It's a spiritual trust that no matter what, we can face anything in life because Christ is there.
  • Giannis - In Reply on Revelation 16 - 1 year ago
    Lets talk about Sabbath first.

    Many things from the OT are not valid now Sacrifices, offerings, commandments, holy days etc have no place in NT. One of them is Sabbath.

    See Colossians 2:16. Here apostole Paul says to Colosians that no man can judge them because they didn't follow OT's practises, including (pay attention) Sabbath as some Jewish christians claimed. Paul dismisses this idea.

    Christians soon chose the first day of the week for their formal congregation during which they "broke bread" that is take the Body and Blood of Jesus Crist or as some churches name it have Holly Communion, see Acts 20:7,

    Also in 1 Corinthians 11:20 Paul talks about Lord's Super, (but the greek text says Lord's Day super "Kyriako deipno") . Lord's Day is how early Christians called Sunday. Early Christians had the Holly Communion during a super just as Jesus did with His Disciples. This practice was abandoned sometime during the 2nd century AD and the Holly Communion was transferred from the church's super to the formal Sunday service.

    Also see 1 Corinthians 16:2 Paul says to Christians in Corinth to gather money on Lord's Day.

    Also in Revelation 1:10 apostole John talks about Lord's Day

    So the formal day for christians at the time that the apostles lived was Sunday,. Sabbath has nothing to do with us now Many other verses that i cannot remember now verify that the Sunday and not Sabbath was the formal day for early christians.

    You can find all those things in books about the history of church.

    Now as far as commandments are concerned to be honest i have no idea what the Catholic church has done.

    God bless you.
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply - 2 years ago
    God judges the secretes of the heart of man, it's not what you do or don't do it why you do it that matters. But Jesus said if we break man's law we will do every day of our sentence, wasn't it unlawful for David to eat the show bread. Wasn't Jesus and the disciples ordered by the leaders not to speak. How about Daniel? We are now under the perfect law of liberty and yes we are to obey every authority we are under, but nobody is obeying God's word our ultimate and final authority now are we? Do you know what counts? trying your best and the desire to. but remember Abraham's belief was counted as righteousness and when you believe in Jesus yours is to. A righteous man falleth 7 times BUTT GETS UP. God knows we can't perfectly obey his law nor man's law that's why God he sent his son to be the perpetration for our sins. hypocrites remove the log out of one's own eye before removing the tiny splinter out of your bothers eye.

    1 Peter 4:8

    And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

    1 Corinthians 13:13

    And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

    1 Corinthians 16:14

    Let all your things be done with charity.

    Love isn't charity, charity is the manifestation of love, love at work.

    Righteousness is simple doing right and love fulfills all the law
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Charity and it a manifestation of love and not love itself. Jesus said when you do unto one of the lest of these you do it unto me. 1 Corinthians 13:13

    "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity."

    1 Corinthians 16:14

    "Let all your things be done with charity."

    Colossians 3:14

    "And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness."

    2 Thessalonians 1:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth;

    1 Peter 4:8

    "And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins."
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Richard,

    1 Corinthians 16:13 says, "Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong."

    That little phase "quit you like men" is literally one Greek word that means be a man. It's associated with courage!

    If you remember what God told Joshua, in Joshua Chapter 1 Verses 8 through 11? He said "Be of courage Joshua for I am with you wherever you go." It's not a human courage. It's a spiritual trust that no matter what, we can face anything in life because Christ is there.
  • Greeting in the name of Jesus - In Reply on Exodus 23 - 2 years ago
    2 Corinthians 13:12

    Greet one another with an holy kiss.

    1 Thessalonians 5:26

    Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.

    Luke 7:45

    Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.

    Romans 16:16

    Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.

    1 Corinthians 16:20

    All the brethren greet you. Greet ye one another with an holy kiss.

    Genesis 27:26

    And his father Isaac said unto him, Come near now, and kiss me, my son.

    1 Peter 5:14

    Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.

    Proverbs 27:6 - Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

    2 Peter 1:7

    And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

    Hebrews 13:1

    Let brotherly love continue.

    1 Thessalonians 4:9

    But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

    Romans 12:10

    Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

    1 Corinthians 16:14 Let all your things be done with charity. 1 John 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

    Colossians 3:5 - Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

    Comment by Mishael: Amongst Church members, I would hope that we don't judge each other's greetings.

    In our present culture we seem to be hyper aware of any kind of sexual harassment.

    Inside of our Church setting we should be able to greet each other with a handshake and squeeze on the arm without a problem.

    Rather than be shocked by standoffness, try to discern the other persons body language. We are naturally hyper now due to Covid-19 and Variant fears. It is, what it is.
  • Michael - In Reply on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    " Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

    (Christians are not under the Old Covenant or Testament but under the New Covenant or Testament. The book of Malachi is under the Old Covenant or Testament.)

    Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you."

    (Jesus set up or inaugurated the New Covenant or Testament with his shed blood. The laws governing that New Covenant or New Testament and recorded in the letters written to the first-century Church. The Apostle Paul or any other Apostle, in all their letters, never instructed the first-century Church to tithe - not once.)

    2 Corinthians 9:7 "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver."

    (The Apostle Paul sets the standard for giving under the New Covenant or Testament - "as he purposes in his heart" - in other words, whatever a person decides to give is his personal choice.)

    1 Corinthians 16:2 "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come."

    (The Apostle Paul says "as God has prospered him". He never mentions an obligatory tithe.)
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on John 3:13 - 2 years ago
    Hello brother Earl,

    Again I thank you for your replies. As it is our destiny to grow in the Spirit of Christ and see with His eyes.

    As the ways of God are beyond what I could fathom. Truly my faith in God and Jesus Christ being, that whatever the way of the Lord is, I know it is the right way and I am His forever. Even if I don't understand. Keeping root in the Word with a pure heart and staying close to the Lord. He shall direct us down the straight and narrow path. His Will shall be done.

    Weather we believe "hell" to be a place of eternal torment like stated in Matthew 25:46. Or as you explain. It is a place we do not want to go or have anything to do with. Christ stating in Matthew 10:28.

    As we who are in Christ here are Blessed to have been chosen by Him to be His.

    In 1 Corinthians 16:22 stating those who "love not the Lord"(not with the Lord) to basically let him be set aside for the coming Judgement of the Lord.

    A couple about saving a soul. As we can only plant or water, it is God who gives the growth. James 5:19-20, Jude 1:23.

    Again thank you for your time and posts brother. It means a lot.

    God Bless you Earl. Have a wonderful day!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 2 years ago
    Jerry.

    Jesus was dead on the Sabbath day. It was on the first day of the week that He came forth from the dead. And when we turn to the resurrection account in the Gospel of Matthew (which was written primarily to Israel), it opens with:

    In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week. Matthew 28:1.

    "At the end of the sabbath" - not just the end of a day, but the end of keeping the Sabbath day - "it began to dawn toward the first day of the week." That is tremendous!

    Pentecost - The Church Was Born

    Then we turn to the Book of Acts, and there we read that the church was born - and not on a Sabbath day, but on the Lord's Day, the first day of the week. Notice Acts 2:1:

    And when the day of Pentecost was fully come.

    What does the Bible mean by "fully come"? Does it mean when the sun had come up? No.

    It means "When the day of Pentecost [and all of which it spoke] was come." That which Pentecost had symbolized in the Old Testament is now come. It was the first day of the week, the only first day of the week Israel ever observed - for they observed seven Sabbath days after Passover, and then the day following the seventh Sabbath was Pentecost:

    On that day the Holy Spirit came!

    On that day the church was born!

    Proof they worshiped on a Sunday.

    Acts 20:7. And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

    1 Corinthians 16:2. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

    I agree with Adam, we worship all the days of our lives.

    God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 4 - 3 years ago
    This would be an extremely difficult case to build as Paul is simply not specific to what was given him to keep him from becoming conceited after those mighty revelations.

    I have always tended to believe that his eyes caused him a lot of bother. Whether he had first acquired some disease that eventually affected other parts of his body in the long term & especially his eyes, one can't be certain. Anyway, I'll give you some other Scriptures for you to consider (not in any order):

    a. Romans 16:22 (Paul was the author, but Tertius his scribe possibly because of Paul's vision).

    b. 1 Corinthians 16:21 & 2 Thessalonians 3:17 (Paul managed to sign off with his name while others helped with the writing of the epistle).

    c. Galatians 6:11 (Paul wrote in large letters, rather than writing a 'long letter', as he didn't have a scribe to help him).

    d. Galatians 4:13 (Paul preached to the Galatians first, possibly because of the region's higher altitude may have helped with a disease, e.g. malaria which left untreated, might have caused eye problems) & then in Galatians 4:15 (that the Galatians would have given him "their eyes" for his need).

    e. Acts 23:3-5 (Paul insulted the High Priest not recognizing him, or as some suppose, that Paul was saying "I didn't expect a High Priest (of his calibre) to order me beaten").

    Sorry, I'm directing this response towards Paul's eyes, as I feel that this was where his infirmity was. But of course, no one can say with full certainty.


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