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1 Corinthians 16 KJV Bible discussions
 
  • Richard H Priday - in Reply on Mark 2
    The verse "the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath" ( Matthew 12:8) does seem to show that there is a justification for it to now be the day of rest and worship. We see evidence elsewhere of disciples meeting the "first day of the week" in Acts 15:30 and 20:7. Collections are also to be made on that day according to 1 Corinthians 16:9; but in that case it seemed to be specifically for Paul and it doesn't seem to indicate that was when they would always fellowship together. Colossians 2:16 could also relate to not disputing when we meet together. It doesn't seem any demand is to meet on Sunday; and Messianic Jews still do so on Saturday.

    The verse about the Sabbath being made for man indicates that there is a superior principle involved. Namely; those things called "works" on the Sabbath that were added laws to the original statute were not to be considered legitimate. Whereby; a legitimate need such as eating; feeding animals; or healing men were frequently used as examples of how those principles of mercy; love and justice were to supercede superficial legalistic practices. Thus; Jesus would quote the scripture about Daniel and the shewbread as justification for His actions and that of the disciples. Those laws that were in effect specifically for the Jews were eventually superceded by grafting in of Jews and Gentiles; and since Christ is God in the flesh honoring Pentecost (which had a significant prophetic indication of Christ's fulfillment at the Ascencion after the Resurrection) we now are under grace. We are now under a New Covenant; which allows us to fulfill the law as He ever lives to intercede for us and His Spirit remains within us. (see Hebrews 7:25; Ephesians 1:13-14). There is no Temple; and animal sacrifices hence Jews have no way to follow former purification rites. We can choose to rest on Saturdays; or Sundays as I see it-just as we can still celebrate the Passover. Obviously there is much controversy here on this subject.
  • Chris - in Reply on Malachi 1
    Hello Vicki. Ps. Dollar would have quoted from Malachi 3:8-10. He would probably also have said that this passage pertained to Israel who neglected to perform all that was required of them. In one passage ( Deuteronomy 12:6,11), the LORD instructed Israel that when they got to the Promised Land, that all their sacrifices, offerings, tithes, & vows were to come over as well & nothing to be left behind or undone. But in Malachi, the tithes that were made (the tenth of their farm produce gain) were not being brought forward & kept back by them. These tithes were needed & used by the priests & Levites serving at the Tabernacle for their support.

    This command of tithing wasn't given nor applied to the Church, as the Church (at least in New Testament times), didn't have paid clergy or even a rented building & utilities supplied. Their giving was for the needs of one another & maybe their community ( Acts 2:41-47), thereby fulfilling the Command of Christ to love the LORD thy God and to love your neighbour as yourself. But as the Church grew & spread, the Apostle Paul made the believers aware that some of their Jerusalem brethren weren't doing so well in material things. So Paul sometimes collected stuff to take to them ( 1 Corinthians 16:1-3). So apart from these instances of providing relief to those in need, we don't read that tithing was practised. Rather, that Christians should not give grudgingly but willingly & cheerfully ( 2 Corinthians 9:6-8).

    So, as much as tithing is not prescribed for the Church today, I believe that it should be a proper & sacrificial response to help in the support of a Church ministry, that now has far more expenses than the early Church. And not limited to a tenth on one's earnings, but also to share more if possible for other programs & missionary endeavours of the Church. But we're not limited to giving ten percent nor are we compelled to do so.
  • D W L - in Reply
    Jo M Mingua

    Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

    1 Corinthians 9:6 - 11

    1 Timothy 5:18 For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

    When you are hunting for a church - be sure you are looking for the truth. Read and study willing to except the Word. May the Lord Bless you
  • Ronnette - in Reply on Ephesians 1
    My Sister in Christ Sea:

    Thank you for your kind response.

    "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." 1 Corinthians 1:10 KJV

    "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye." 1 Corinthians 16:1 KJV

    The WORD OF GOD is so powerful that speaks to everyone that believes.

    Philippians 4:8

    Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

    Philippians 4:9

    Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

    Romans 15:13

    Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

    I love to know you as a daughter of God and a Saint here on earth.

    I pray for all saints. Our encouragement to one another makes us stronger here on earth while waiting to see Jesus Christ in the clouds.
  • Ronnette - in Reply
    Dear Louise:

    I love the fact that God covered every precious word.

    1 Corinthians 4:4

    For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

    I prayed and God gave me these verses that I may grow in them.

    1 Corinthians 16:14

    Let all your things be done with charity.

    1 Corinthians 13:4

    Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

    1 Corinthians 13:5

    Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

    1 Corinthians 13:6

    Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

    Colossians 3:14

    And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

    Exodus 14:14

    The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.

    Grace unto you and peace from our Father in Heaven and The Lord Jesus Christ.
  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 58
    Page 3.

    4. So which is the Sabbath Day? The Sabbath was given only to Israel ( Exodus 31:12-17) - no one else. It, along with Circumcision, marked them as 'belonging to the LORD'. No other people or nation ever received this, or any other, Law to obey. The Gentiles coming to Christ after the Gospel was preached & received, were never compelled to come under the Law in any shape or form. How could they be brought under the Law that only killed? Efforts were made to bring them under the Law, but that was rejected ( Galatians 2:11-21). For indeed, "if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain." The Jewish Sabbath, along with all Laws, was cast aside, having no more bearing on the one 'in Christ'. Our righteousness, given by God, can never be from the Laws to obey or the Sabbath to observe - our righteousness is found in Christ alone, Who not only perfectly fulfilled the whole Law on our behalf, but opened the "new & living way", that only by His Power can we ever properly do His Will.

    As soon as we appeal to the Laws, even the Sabbath, we place ourselves under them, & by them we will be judged. And Sunday (the first day of the week) has never been a Sabbath for those in Christ - it is & always has been the day prescribed to be set aside to come together for worship ( Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2).
  • Tithes and Offerings Unto God__through the local Church - in Reply
    2 Corinthians 9:7 - Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a CHEERFUL giver.

    Malachi 3:8-12 - Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

    Malachi 3:10 - Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

    Matthew 6:1-4 - Take heed that ye do not your giving before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

    Matthew 23:23 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    Luke 6:38 - Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye give withal it shall be measured to you again.

    Luke 11:42 - But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    Luke 18:12 - I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. [don't brag]

    Acts 2:44-47 - And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

    Acts 20:35 - I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 - Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 2 Corinthians 8:1-24

    Give to missionaries
  • Giannis - in Reply
    Yes, Dear Junnybug, your pastor is right about that "where we still give as we feel led to and where we feel led to", although in my opinion this has nothing to do with the Law that was fulfilled by Jesus, simply such a thing is not mentioned in the NT.

    On the contary, Paul in his epistle to 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 is very clear about it. "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come".

    See also 2 Corinthians 9:7 "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver" If there would still be tenths he wouldn't ask this but he would demand that corinthians kept the commadement.

    No one can demand such thing.

    Paul in his last meeting with the elders of Ephesus Acts 20:17-36 (see v 33-35) asks them to serve the members of the church there free, like he was always doing. Why? Because he didn't want them to put such a heavy weight on christians there. So how about asking now for 10%? No, certainly not. GBU
  • Jesse - in Reply on 1 Samuel 4
    Michelle,

    This is what I learned about 1 Corinthians 16:13. It says, "quit you like men." "And like a man, I've quit several times!" Just kidding, that is not what it means. It's literally one Greek word that means be a man. Moreover, it is associated with courage! Remember what God told Joshua in Joshua 1:8-11? Be of courage Joshua for I am with you wherever you go. So it's not a human courage. It's a spiritual trust that no matter what, we can face anything in life because Christ is there.
  • Giannis - in Reply on Revelation 16
    Lets talk about Sabbath first.

    Many things from the OT are not valid now Sacrifices, offerings, commandments, holy days etc have no place in NT. One of them is Sabbath.

    See Colossians 2:16. Here apostole Paul says to Colosians that no man can judge them because they didn't follow OT's practises, including (pay attention) Sabbath as some Jewish christians claimed. Paul dismisses this idea.

    Christians soon chose the first day of the week for their formal congregation during which they "broke bread" that is take the Body and Blood of Jesus Crist or as some churches name it have Holly Communion, see Acts 20:7,

    Also in 1 Corinthians 11:20 Paul talks about Lord's Super, (but the greek text says Lord's Day super "Kyriako deipno") . Lord's Day is how early Christians called Sunday. Early Christians had the Holly Communion during a super just as Jesus did with His Disciples. This practice was abandoned sometime during the 2nd century AD and the Holly Communion was transferred from the church's super to the formal Sunday service.

    Also see 1 Corinthians 16:2 Paul says to Christians in Corinth to gather money on Lord's Day.

    Also in Revelation 1:10 apostole John talks about Lord's Day

    So the formal day for christians at the time that the apostles lived was Sunday,. Sabbath has nothing to do with us now Many other verses that i cannot remember now verify that the Sunday and not Sabbath was the formal day for early christians.

    You can find all those things in books about the history of church.

    Now as far as commandments are concerned to be honest i have no idea what the Catholic church has done.

    God bless you.
  • Charles Robert Northup - in Reply
    God judges the secretes of the heart of man, it's not what you do or don't do it why you do it that matters. But Jesus said if we break man's law we will do every day of our sentence, wasn't it unlawful for David to eat the show bread. Wasn't Jesus and the disciples ordered by the leaders not to speak. How about Daniel? We are now under the perfect law of liberty and yes we are to obey every authority we are under, but nobody is obeying God's word our ultimate and final authority now are we? Do you know what counts? trying your best and the desire to. but remember Abraham's belief was counted as righteousness and when you believe in Jesus yours is to. A righteous man falleth 7 times BUTT GETS UP. God knows we can't perfectly obey his law nor man's law that's why God he sent his son to be the perpetration for our sins. hypocrites remove the log out of one's own eye before removing the tiny splinter out of your bothers eye.

    1 Peter 4:8

    And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

    1 Corinthians 13:13

    And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

    1 Corinthians 16:14

    Let all your things be done with charity.

    Love isn't charity, charity is the manifestation of love, love at work.

    Righteousness is simple doing right and love fulfills all the law
  • Charles Robert Northup - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Charity and it a manifestation of love and not love itself. Jesus said when you do unto one of the lest of these you do it unto me. 1 Corinthians 13:13

    "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity."

    1 Corinthians 16:14

    "Let all your things be done with charity."

    Colossians 3:14

    "And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness."

    2 Thessalonians 1:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth;

    1 Peter 4:8

    "And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins."
  • Jesse - in Reply
    Richard,

    1 Corinthians 16:13 says, "Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong."

    That little phase "quit you like men" is literally one Greek word that means be a man. It's associated with courage!

    If you remember what God told Joshua, in Joshua Chapter 1 Verses 8 through 11? He said "Be of courage Joshua for I am with you wherever you go." It's not a human courage. It's a spiritual trust that no matter what, we can face anything in life because Christ is there.
  • Greeting in the name of Jesus - in Reply on Exodus 23
    2 Corinthians 13:12

    Greet one another with an holy kiss.

    1 Thessalonians 5:26

    Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.

    Luke 7:45

    Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.

    Romans 16:16

    Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.

    1 Corinthians 16:20

    All the brethren greet you. Greet ye one another with an holy kiss.

    Genesis 27:26

    And his father Isaac said unto him, Come near now, and kiss me, my son.

    1 Peter 5:14

    Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.

    Proverbs 27:6 - Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

    2 Peter 1:7

    And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

    Hebrews 13:1

    Let brotherly love continue.

    1 Thessalonians 4:9

    But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

    Romans 12:10

    Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

    1 Corinthians 16:14 Let all your things be done with charity. 1 John 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

    Colossians 3:5 - Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

    Comment by Mishael: Amongst Church members, I would hope that we don't judge each other's greetings.

    In our present culture we seem to be hyper aware of any kind of sexual harassment.

    Inside of our Church setting we should be able to greet each other with a handshake and squeeze on the arm without a problem.

    Rather than be shocked by standoffness, try to discern the other persons body language. We are naturally hyper now due to Covid-19 and Variant fears. It is, what it is.
  • Michael - in Reply on Hebrews 3
    " Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

    (Christians are not under the Old Covenant or Testament but under the New Covenant or Testament. The book of Malachi is under the Old Covenant or Testament.)

    Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you."

    (Jesus set up or inaugurated the New Covenant or Testament with his shed blood. The laws governing that New Covenant or New Testament and recorded in the letters written to the first-century Church. The Apostle Paul or any other Apostle, in all their letters, never instructed the first-century Church to tithe - not once.)

    2 Corinthians 9:7 "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver."

    (The Apostle Paul sets the standard for giving under the New Covenant or Testament - "as he purposes in his heart" - in other words, whatever a person decides to give is his personal choice.)

    1 Corinthians 16:2 "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come."

    (The Apostle Paul says "as God has prospered him". He never mentions an obligatory tithe.)
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on John 3:13
    Hello brother Earl,

    Again I thank you for your replies. As it is our destiny to grow in the Spirit of Christ and see with His eyes.

    As the ways of God are beyond what I could fathom. Truly my faith in God and Jesus Christ being, that whatever the way of the Lord is, I know it is the right way and I am His forever. Even if I don't understand. Keeping root in the Word with a pure heart and staying close to the Lord. He shall direct us down the straight and narrow path. His Will shall be done.

    Weather we believe "hell" to be a place of eternal torment like stated in Matthew 25:46. Or as you explain. It is a place we do not want to go or have anything to do with. Christ stating in Matthew 10:28.

    As we who are in Christ here are Blessed to have been chosen by Him to be His.

    In 1 Corinthians 16:22 stating those who "love not the Lord"(not with the Lord) to basically let him be set aside for the coming Judgement of the Lord.

    A couple about saving a soul. As we can only plant or water, it is God who gives the growth. James 5:19-20, Jude 1:23.

    Again thank you for your time and posts brother. It means a lot.

    God Bless you Earl. Have a wonderful day!
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Revelation 1
    Jerry.

    Jesus was dead on the Sabbath day. It was on the first day of the week that He came forth from the dead. And when we turn to the resurrection account in the Gospel of Matthew (which was written primarily to Israel), it opens with:

    In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week. Matthew 28:1.

    "At the end of the sabbath" - not just the end of a day, but the end of keeping the Sabbath day - "it began to dawn toward the first day of the week." That is tremendous!

    Pentecost - The Church Was Born

    Then we turn to the Book of Acts, and there we read that the church was born - and not on a Sabbath day, but on the Lord's Day, the first day of the week. Notice Acts 2:1:

    And when the day of Pentecost was fully come.

    What does the Bible mean by "fully come"? Does it mean when the sun had come up? No.

    It means "When the day of Pentecost [and all of which it spoke] was come." That which Pentecost had symbolized in the Old Testament is now come. It was the first day of the week, the only first day of the week Israel ever observed - for they observed seven Sabbath days after Passover, and then the day following the seventh Sabbath was Pentecost:

    On that day the Holy Spirit came!

    On that day the church was born!

    Proof they worshiped on a Sunday.

    Acts 20:7. And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

    1 Corinthians 16:2. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

    I agree with Adam, we worship all the days of our lives.

    God bless.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 4
    This would be an extremely difficult case to build as Paul is simply not specific to what was given him to keep him from becoming conceited after those mighty revelations.

    I have always tended to believe that his eyes caused him a lot of bother. Whether he had first acquired some disease that eventually affected other parts of his body in the long term & especially his eyes, one can't be certain. Anyway, I'll give you some other Scriptures for you to consider (not in any order):

    a. Romans 16:22 (Paul was the author, but Tertius his scribe possibly because of Paul's vision).

    b. 1 Corinthians 16:21 & 2 Thessalonians 3:17 (Paul managed to sign off with his name while others helped with the writing of the epistle).

    c. Galatians 6:11 (Paul wrote in large letters, rather than writing a 'long letter', as he didn't have a scribe to help him).

    d. Galatians 4:13 (Paul preached to the Galatians first, possibly because of the region's higher altitude may have helped with a disease, e.g. malaria which left untreated, might have caused eye problems) & then in Galatians 4:15 (that the Galatians would have given him "their eyes" for his need).

    e. Acts 23:3-5 (Paul insulted the High Priest not recognizing him, or as some suppose, that Paul was saying "I didn't expect a High Priest (of his calibre) to order me beaten").

    Sorry, I'm directing this response towards Paul's eyes, as I feel that this was where his infirmity was. But of course, no one can say with full certainty.
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Page 4.

    h. That it appears from the Word that Christians began worshipping the Lord on the first day of the week ( Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2), though attendance to meeting with others at the synagogue was still practised by Paul ( Acts 9:20, 13:5, 14:1, etc.), there appears a departure from the religious side of the Sabbath to the first day of the week, maybe in remembrance of the Lord's resurrection & a separation from the Jewish Sabbath which included worship. No doubt, the Sabbath still remained a day of rest for them.

    I am personally not inclined to whether I worship on the first day, the second or even the seventh day, as the Sabbath Day significance has no application or meaning to me under the New Covenant. When I was in employment, the need for a rest day was still required & appreciated, but that's all there was to it. If Sunday as a worship day is a problem to some, then set another day aside to worship with the Lord's people. But if to keep the Sabbath becomes an unquestionable, non-negotiable requirement that can bring on the Wrath of God or disfavour to the people, then I simply cannot see that expressed in the Word or by the Spirit, & one would have to do some intricate exegesis to provide convincing proof.

    Apologies for keeping this response lengthy (though brief, in some respects), but thought to raise some thoughts for you to chew on & respond where necessary, i.e. trying to lay down some groundwork to build upon. Every blessing.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 7
    "If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha," 1 Corinthians 16:22 . Why these two words, one Greek and the other Syriac, were not translated, is not obvious. They are the words with which the Jews began their greater excommunication, whereby they not only excluded sinners from their society, but delivered them up to the divine cherem, or anathema, that is, to misery in this life, and perdition in the life to come. "Let him be Anathema" is, "Let him be accursed." Maranatha signifies, "The Lord cometh," or, "will come;" that is, to take vengeance. See ACCURSED .
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 3
    Tertius, as mentioned in Romans 16:22, we understand to have been the Apostle Paul's stenographer. We're unsure why Paul often didn't write his letters by his own hand; some think that it may have been his weak eyes ("his thorn in the flesh"). But he sometimes did write a salutation (appending some special greeting by his own hand) to his letters ( 1 Corinthians 16:21, Colossians 4:18, 2 Thessalonians 3:17).
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Revelation 6
    I do not deny Christ so I am not antichrist and we are to judge in righteousness

    John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    Jews who reject Jesus are cursed

    Matthew 23:15 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (ALL Pharisees are Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

    There is only one door and it is Jesus and any Jew who rejects Jesus is rejected of God.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Revelation 6
    The Bible definition of an ANTICHRIST. 1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)

    1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

    If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah? SATAN?

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?

    Did you know most of the self identified "Jews" in the Israeli state are from Eastern Europe and Russia?

    they are indeed.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Ezekiel 37:22
    What is the Bible definition of an antichrist and who fits the description.

    1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)

    1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

    If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah?

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
  • Greg - in Reply on James 1
    Chris,

    I appreciate your feedback concerning the Seventh Day.

    In considering the other side of the teaching that you presented, I will respond below.

    The Seventh day was declared by God BEFORE He chose Israel. This Law was established for ALL to obey and enjoy.

    The 10 Commandments are OT LAW, are they abolished?

    Do you still follow the 10 Commandments?

    Jesus abolished BLOOD Ordinances, and either partially or completely fulfilled OT prophecy concerning His first coming, but Christ did not come to abolish the LAW.

    So, then, if a person claims to have FAITH in Jesus but all of his WORKS are evil, where do you think this person ends up? Jesus tells us very plainly ( Matthew 7:23). Looks like FAITH has a lot to do with following the LAW ( Galatians 3:11-12) and with WORKS, ( James 2:17).

    The English word "week" is defined from the Greek word meaning "Sabbath" or "day of rest;" also a 7 day period of time.

    You state that the Lord God or His only begotten Son changed the holy Sabbath day based upon Scripture (from your understanding of Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, and Revelation 1:10):

    "The first day of the week began to be recognized as the Lord's Day and that the Church began worshipping on that day"

    Acts 20:7, concerns the first day of the Sabbath in reckoning the 7 Sabbaths to Pentecost.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 has to do with preparation (work) for when Paul returns.

    Revelation 1:10 concerns John being taken "in the spirit" to the great and dreadful "day of the Lord" or the "Lord's day"

    when the Messiah shall return, and John is given testimony in relation to that. (Not Sunday!)

    None of these Scriptures you offer give authorization to change the Sabbath day from the SEVENTH DAY to the FIRST DAY of the week.

    Christ FORETOLD US EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW. God did not give us instruction to change the Sabbath, neither did Jesus, nor did the Prophets and Apostles.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Mark 16:15
    shall all who claim to be Israel be saved?

    Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    So do these get saved without Jesus?

    John in John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    Jesus in Revelation 3:9 - Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, and I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

    Q: Is there another plan of salvation for unbelieving Jews?

    A: Acts 4:12 - Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (What name? Yeshua?)

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    Ezra 9:1 - Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.

    Ezra 9:2 - For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the HOLY SEED holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands:
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Mark 16:15
    Mishael I do read Israeli news and I have read their writings and that is why I know what they do.

    They teach Jesus is the most evil antisemite who ever lived, not Hitler. what does that make his followers?

    Why do they teach this?

    Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews - Jesus in the Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

    46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

    47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

    48 Then answered the Jews

    Then answered the Jews

    Then answered the Jews

    Then answered the Jews

    pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL.

    Matthew 23:15 - Jesus speaks: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Mark 16:15
    There are 5,000 Greek manuscripts of the new testament and ZERO Hebrew ones. Show me from the Bible YESHUa anywhere in the new testament and I know it does not exist.

    Greek was the common language of business in the days of Jesus. Even many Romans knew Greek.

    Alexander the Greek conquered the entire area and insured this happened. Alexandria Egypt was named for him.

    Rome only recently conquered Israel prior to the days of Christ. Do you really think Pilate spoke to Jesus at the trial in Latin or Hebrew? Mostly likely they spoke Greek.

    In Matthew 27:46 and 47 Jesus spoke Hebrew and the Jews did not even understand what he was saying.

    Paul said this about this YESHUa stuff

    Bible book of Titus 1:14 - Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

    Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?

    A: Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (So what nation spread the news of Jesus?)

    Certainly not the Jews, so it was Greeks.

    Corinthians, Ephesians, Thessalonians were all Greek churches in Greece who spread the gospel, not the Jews.

    King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

    John 7:1 - After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?

    If you want to call Jesus by a Hebrew name use Emmanuel / Immanuel since that name is in both new and old testaments.

    People google this " NOAHIDE YESHU" see how they feel about Jesus
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Romans 11
    Just curious why you believe the antichrists are Israel?

    Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

    1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask the Rabbi or them if Jesus is the Messiah.)

    1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

    If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah?

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?

    Please explain how these get saved without Jesus? I am curious

    John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Revelation 13
    Concerning Torquemada I noticed you did not bother to read the article in the jewish encyclopedia either.

    Murray Redstone does not sound Jewish either until you find his birth name was Rothstein oh his family runs CBS.

    Communist leader Lenin real name was Ulanov.

    Communist leader Lev Bronstein called himself Trotsky.

    The founder of the church of Satan called himself Anton LaVey, some claim Howard Stanton, but his birth name was

    really Levy.

    Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    Leonard Nimoy, Wiliam Shatner, Woody Allen does not sound jewish either.

    All I know is if they do not follow Jesus they are cursed as Paul said.

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.


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