Deuteronomy Chapter 30 Discussion



 
  • David T. on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 1 year ago
    Praise the LORD for all the comforting words of wisdom declared and shared on this forum. It is good to know that brethren exist and are active in every avenue of worship and praise unto the LORD JESUS CHRIST. It is like traveling- no matter where I go I can be assured there will be body of believers singing the praises of the LORD; preaching the Word of GOD; and I will comforted and allowed to be amongst them.

    Let us extend our faith and knowledge of the LORD by praying and calling on GOD for HIS hand upon our current leadership in Washington. Our trust in Scripture and obedience to the same will bring about change as GOD, the LORD JESUS CHRIST see best for our times. May we lay aside every weight, especially the sin before us, and "let us run with patience the race that is set before us. Looking unto JESUS the author and finisher of our faith;..." Hebrews 12: 1b, 2a

    So much before us to pray for and be active in; there is much we can do in HIS name. Let us start from the beginning: Romans 10: 9, 10; Ephesians 2: 8-10; Matthew 28: 18-20; 2 Chronicles 7:14, 15; 2 Peter 3:9; 1 Timothy 2: 1-5; 2 Peter 1: 1-8. Many more passages, I'm sure you can add to the list, Amen!

    GOD bless everyone on this forum, and may the LORD GOD meet all your needs. "Who shall separate us from the love of CHRIST? ... Nay, in all things we are more than conquerors through HIM that loved us." Romans 8: 35, 37, 38, 39

    The LORD bless you, and keep you! The LORD to make HIS face to shine on you, and be gracious to you. The LORD to lift HIS countenance upon you, and give you peace. Numbers 6: 24-26

    Don't forget to vote on November!

    October 11, 2022
  • Richard H Priday on Deuteronomy 30 - 2 years ago
    This chapter is a continuation of the exhortations of the promises of cursing for turning away from God; and to a lesser extent of the volume of the text; the promise of blessings for obedience. There is always opportunity while one lives; even when disbursed to the "outer parts of heaven" (v. 4) for making things right with the Lord; and this indeed is his promise to Israel.

    This passage contains the famous "free will" passage about choosing life (v. 19). It reminds us of Joshua's statement "as for me and my household; we shall serve the Lord ( Joshua 24:15). For the chosen nation; it is hard to separate the transgressions of individuals from eventual exile of both Judah and Israel. God; in His foreknowledge knew of course that all these rebellions would come to pass. Again; such preaching today certainly wouldn't be very popular. It is hard to say how much of today's calamities in society are due to sin and the curses on a nation; as the warning Christ had in His time about the tower of Siloam. ( Luke 13:1-5). However; it is clear that all of creation is groaning at present. The law can never save us; but these passages are talking about the 1st Commandment primarily; leading of course to all other sources of sin and rebellion if any other "gods" are venerated. This allows; for instance the fornications that idol worship invokes; the murder of the unborn warned about time and time again in scripture when children were "put through the fire" ( 2 Kings 23:10) and numerous other passages are examples of two other resulting transgressions against the Ten Commandments resulting from turning from the living God.

    Again; verse 11 and the next couple verses show that there is sufficient words from the Lord to make clear how to be obedient; Deut. 29:29 in other words doesn't indicate that He is hiding this sort of vital information. We only truly BELIEVE these as well as ANY other scriptural admonitions if we have the Spirit of God.
  • Larry Bolinao - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30 - 2 years ago
    Every professing Christian should understand the depth of this chapter. because this is truly an important instruction of GOD ALMIGHTY TO MEN. but men fail to see its relevance bringing miseries and poverty to everyone.

    our king Jesus even reiterate it in Matthew 22 : the most important commandment is LOVE GOD ALMIGHTY WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND SOUL . man then continue on his loss journey bringing all kind of tragedy: war, famine, pestilence poverty.

    they thought that there is no GOD anymore, not understanding that there lack of understanding about the commandments of GOD BRING A LOT OF CURSES. you see, just as the curses did take place on Israel, the same is happening to the world; GOD ALMIGHTY IS NOT A PUNISHING GOD. but men attracts to himself his own demise, because men choose evil works than righteousness : GOD ALMIGHTY SEND HIS SON JESUS to bring peace and prosperity but they crucified him instead
  • BSP on Deuteronomy 30 - 2 years ago
    Verse 11-Jehovah God's commandments are not too difficult. When we develop deep love for God and rely on him for help, we can obey his commandments.
  • Issy on Deuteronomy 30:1 - 3 years ago
    preach preach
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    This is indeed the heart of a christian! You speak truth based on the word. The word is a direct revelation of the life we have in Him> Thanks for your inspirational comments, we must know that we are not alone !
  • Frank Garcia - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Trying to be a holy man, and a sinful man I can only say is with my deepest heart thank you Jesus for your Grace bless you.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Chris! Christian practice is on my heart and mind this morning. God bless the doctrines of Christ producing peaceable living fruit in our lives in practice. We are weak but the Lord, the Lamb of God is a strong deliverer. That we truly follow him all the days of our life. Keep the faith.

    Carleton
  • Fox News Coverage Praise Jesus on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Thousands of Christians gathered outdoors in Portland on Saturday to sing spiritual music amid the state's coronavirus social distancing measures-just hours before a riot was declared across town and a separate crowd lit fire to the city police union headquarters.

    Worshippers met in Waterfront Park on Saturday evening for an event dubbed "Riots to Revival." Controversial Christian musician Sean Feucht, who has hosted similar gatherings on California beaches amid COVID-19 restrictions, led the crowd in song and some were even baptized. Most people flouted social distancing and did not wear masks or facial coverings, KGW reported.

    "I'm excited to share with you some good news from Portland. Last night, we gathered thousands of people that came together," Feucht told "Fox & Friends Weekend" Sunday morning.

    'LET US WORSHIP' FOUNDER CALLS OUT CALIFORNIA LEADERS' CORONAVIRUS LOCKDOWN HYPOCRISY

    "White, Black, Hispanic - we came and released our song of hope over this city. People gave their life to Jesus. Hundreds of people -- We baptized people in the river behind us. There was so much joy that took over the streets of that city last night."

    Feucht estimated between 4,000 and 7,000 people attended the massive outdoor church service that happened just blocks away from the federal courthouse and acted as a counter-protest to bring worship, prayer, and acts of kindness to Portland. Only 600 people responded to a Facebook event to say they would attend.
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Thanks for that information, Carleton. I found the Dordrecht Confession of Faith with its eighteen articles. Had a quick glance over it & in the greater part, find agreement to it. Sometimes, we come across other Christian 'groups', such as the Mennonite & the Church of God in Christ, but have very little knowledge about them & their beliefs. Such a Confession of Faith is a handy reference to keep for the future.

    No, we've never met, unless you've visited Perth Australia, & even then the chances of a meeting would be quite slim. But we are joined together by the selfsame Spirit, in Christ, a bond not easily broken. As we share discussion with others on these pages, there will certainly be agreements & disagreements on doctrinal & general matters, and I suppose that's what gives the purchased family of God both variety & distinctiveness in our common faith, with Christ's Love & Understanding as the under girding foundation. I don't subscribe to any particular denomination as I've found none that is fully consistent with Scriptural teaching. However, for not forsaking the assembling together of the saints, I do attend a local Baptist Church as I find that they, along with the Christian Brethren (the Open variety!) attend closest to what I find in the Word & I receive much benefit from the messages shared.

    Every blessing dear brother - I always look forward to reading your notes, along with Mishael's, Jesse's, Adam's, & others.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Good evening Chris and all. Likely more can be found in The Martyrs Mirror by Thieleman J. van Braght, however the particular confessions of faith that two of which I have written on this website, are part of 18 articles drawn up at Dortecht Holland in 1632, the confession says at a certain peace convention on April 21. More information can be found at Gospel Publishers in Moundridge, Kansas. I, myself am a baptized member of the Church of God in Christ Mennonite with no Mennonite background on my blood side. After being born again by faith and repentance and later baptized I then met my future wife whose ancestors were likely from some of the Churches that signed this particular confession.

    Our times right now are testing every Christian, myself included.

    God Bless our sharing and that He will increase our fervent love towards one another.

    Have we met Chris?

    Carleton
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Thanks Carleton. An excellent & pertinent article on a Christian's response to an enemy's attacks. You mentioned "brethren 389 years ago": can you clarify? Thanks.
  • Carleton on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    This is one article of my faith too, from brethren 389 years ago last spring. Is there really anything new under the son?

    Carleton

    "Of Revenge"

    As regards revenge, that is to oppose an enemy with the sword, we believe & confess that the Lord Christ has forbidden & set aside to His disciples & followers all revenge & retaliation, & commanded them to render to no one evil for evil or cursing for cursing, but to put the sword into the sheath, or as the prophets have predicted, to beat the swords into ploughshares.

    From this we understand that, according to His example, we must not inflict pain, harm, or sorrow upon anyone, but seek the highest welfare & salvation of all men, & even if necessity requires it, flee for the Lord's sake from one city or country into another, & suffer the spoiling of our goods; that we must not harm anyone, & when we are smitten, rather turn the other cheek than to take revenge or retaliate.

    And moreover, that we must pray for our enemies, feed and refresh them whenever they are hungry or thirsty, & thus convince them by well doing, & overcome all ignorance.

    Finally, that we must do good and commend ourselves to every man's conscience; & according to the law of Christ, do unto others that which we would have others do unto us.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Have you tried using the Search Boxes that are above the red area where you click the link to come in here? One is blank: you type in what you are searching. Hit the arrow.

    The search engine will bring up all scriptures with that word in it. Click on either Old Testament only or New Testament only. It will pare down your list.

    After you find your scripture, click on it and it is highlighted yellow.

    Scroll down to the Commentary Box and click on that. Reading that is helpful.

    It takes a little use to get used to it. It's helpful to read all scriptures written on a certain subject, such as baptism or the "caught up" (rapture) event, or the Bema Seat Judgement of Christ.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Sorry that was 1 Thessalonians 5 1-28 !
  • Carleton on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    John 14:27

    Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you.

    Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

    1 Thessalonians 1-28

    :)
  • Carleton - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Thanks T. I believe the Holy Spirit leads in these scriptures as well as the entire Bible in their interpretation. I am at peace in standing opposed to the thought of adding another visit/earthly reign of Jesus to this earth. The second coming of Jesus will gather His faithful lambs.

    Carleton
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Deuteronomy 28:13-68

    But ._._._. Deuteronomy 28:1-13

    1 Peter 4:3-5

    James 4:11-17

    Amos 1:2-15

    Amos 2:1-16

    Hebrews 10:26-31

    Colossians 3:4-6

    Ephesians 5:1-21

    Revelation

    Mathew 23

    Mathew 25:31-46

    Mathew 24
  • Art BM on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Don't Believe Everything You Hear

    " 1 John 4: 1 My dear friends, don't believe everything you hear. Carefully weigh and examine what people tell you. Not everyone who talks about God comes from God. There are a lot of lying preachers loose in the world."

    Get yourself a good KJV study bible, it will answer most basic questions...
  • Carleton - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Chris!

    Carleton
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Hi Leigh. Your questions on the many & varied Judgements of God probably will require several pages of comment here. May I direct you to this Site: Bible dot org & then look for, The Judgements, Past, Present & Future. It is an extensive list with much more information added to the topic & will give you the answers you seek, with supporting Scriptures.

    The list of God's Judgements begin with the Judgement of Satan & His (fallen) angels when there was a rebellion in Heaven and remarkably end in a similar way with Satan & his angels being finally judged & then all who've died rejecting God & His Saviour will stand before God at the Great White Throne Judgement. I hope this will enlighten your mind & heart as you also study the Word simultaneously.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Good morning! Mishael, I was the truck driver.

    Carleton
  • Leigh A Ringstaff on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Information on the Judgements of God. What are they, when are they, who are they about, I'm sure there are different kinds. Even a scripture I once read said talk of God's judgements.

    Thanks,

    Leigh A Ringstaff
  • Carleton - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Good night all!
  • Carleton - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Many at Church are choosing not to wear a mask, and for the sake of unity I have taken mine off at times, all the while I think of those I work with by the law, having to suffer in miserable summer conditions wearing a mask to legally complete their jobs (fda food facility) 10 hours or more, and I wish that I again had my mask back on. What is our practice?

    Carleton
  • Wearing Facemasks at Church on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Face coverings don't protect the wearer as much as they protect the people the wearer encounters. The apostle Paul summarizes the practical implications of a Christ-like ethic toward others: "Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others" ( Philippians 2:3-4 ESV).

    Mishael
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Thanks Betty for that comment from J.C. Ryle. That wonderfully explains the meaning of holiness & that it ought to be the quest & hallmark of every believer in Christ. There's much benefit from meditating on those words & to use it as a mirror to our own walk with the Lord.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Our reasonable service in self denial allows for many Holy Blessings.

    :)
  • Betty Miller - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Holy ones, yes; they're the same as the people who have chosen to live true in Christ, whole heartedly in Him and not partial. These are below an excerpt from the book Holiness by J. C. Ryle, from a chapter called Holiness; which are very helpful 1-7:

    1. Holiness is the habit of being of one mind in God, according to how it's described in Scripture. It is the habit of agreeing in God's judgment, hating what He hates, loving what He loves, and measuring everything in this world by the standard of His Word.

    2. A holy man will endeavor to shun every known sin and to keep every known commandment.

    3. A holy man will strive to be like our Lord Jesus Christ. He will not only live the life of faith in Him and draw from Him all his daily peace and strength, but he will also labor to have the mind that was in Him and to be conformed to His image ( Rom. 8:29). Christ was a faithful witness for the truth; that He came not to do His own will; but His Father's will.

    4. A holy man will follow after meekness, patience, gentleness, patience, kind tempers, government of his tongue.

    5. A holy man will follow after temperance and self-denial.

    6. A holy man will follow after charity and brotherly kindness

    7. A holy man will follow after a spirit of mercy and benevolence towards others.

    The greatest misery of a holy man is that often when he would do good "evil is present with him"; that the old man is clogging all his movements and, as it were, trying to draw him back at every step he takes ( Rom. 7:21). But it is the excellence of a holy man that he is not at peace with indwelling sin, as others are. He hates it, mourns over it and longs to be free from its company. The work of sanctification within him is like the wall of Jerusalem-the building goes forward "even in troublous times" ( Dan. 9:25).
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30:19 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Betty. I wasn't sure whether the "holy ones" you referred to were simply good, caring people as opposed to those who were adulterers, murderers, liars, etc. However, you've said that we have to be holy as our Father in Heaven is Holy, so I know that you were referring to believers behaving as they ought to & not about 'good' people who maybe good in their works, but their hearts are far from God.

    Now if only those 'good' people turn to the Lord, then their spirits would be saved & their good works would follow them.


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