Deuteronomy Chapter 25 Discussion Page 3



 
  • Happy New Year and Blessings - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    This is how you know:

    Romans 10

    9 That if thou shalt CONFESS with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the MOUTH confession is made unto salvation.

    11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

    13 For WHOSOEVER shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    There is a link on the Red Link page, named

    Become A Believer; that has everything we need to know to have Assurance that we are Born Again and our names are Written down in the Book of Life.

    :) What a wonderful way to start the New Year!

    My advise. Read in the Gospels about Jesus and learn what he is like and our future with Him.
  • Love of Jesus - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    Ty for the information. My heart is in God every single second of every single day. Will be even the very day this earth body dies. I love all of this information from everyone on here. The church is on the tv & I've never asked them anything. They read chapter by chapter verse by verse every day continuously. They explain each verse as they go. I am aware of how ppl can change as they go persay. Or whatever they think is fine by them. That's how it is to be in these times. Also why I recheck EVERYTHING in my KJV Bible. We are in serious times today and the evil will most definitely be trying to get as many of GOD's children for himself. May GOD look into everyone's heart and find their truth. GOD bless you all. Ty
  • Adam - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    By the way, those who claim baptism doesn't mean water, but only spirit can read this which indicates both. John 3:5 I would say the way this verse is written "Unless..." [action] "...he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." it sounds kind of important. I don't know how anyone can read this and come to the conclusion that what Jesus said isn't important. And when Jesus keeps talking about baptism and water I think it's pretty clear what He's talking about. But while people may continue dismissing Jesus's words for whatever reason, most of us in our hearts knows what Jesus means. God bless. Mark 16:16
  • Jesse - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    Brother Spencer,

    Well said!!!
  • Adam - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    Hello, I personally believe the Bible message is simple that even a child can understand and know enough to follow Jesus. Beware of anyone trying to make it complex and try to reinterpret the original language or do anything to change what Jesus said. Generally there seems to be high motivation to find ways to disobey Jesus, rather than the same level of motivation to obey Jesus. We're in a spiritual war is all I can say. I know exactly what the Bible says when I read Acts 2:38 and those who disobey will be judged fairly by God. There's zero risk or downside to being baptized and only huge upside, but isn't it interesting how hard someone is willing to work to justify 'not' doing something.

    May I address your assumption about sinning after being baptized. All are sinners Romans 3:23. After choosing to follow Christ we still are sinners, but as long as we follow Christ our sins will be forgiven by grace. Paul admitted his wrestling with the flesh if you wish to read about that. If we sin we should ask for forgiveness and be genuine- God knows our hearts. If someone intentionally sins to use grace as a hall pass to commit unlimited sin and wickedless, then I would not say that person isn't following Christ. John 14:15. Of course you'll find some people who claim they can do whatever they want, because their sins don't count and I believe that is a lie from the enemy. God hates sin and us obeying Him matters, regardless of what a man says to convince me otherwise.

    Also, when you're baptized you're following Jesus's teaching, not a ritual to get into a particular church. So, if you want to be baptized you can ask church leaders in your area and I'm sure you'll find someone happy to baptize you even though you don't attend their church. I also have a hard time with church, because human beings are flawed beings whereever you go. I don't like seeing worldly culture infiltrating into a church, for example, in effort to please man, instead of trying to please God.
  • Love of Jesus - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    Ty. I am not a member of the church that is teaching this. I watch several of the broadcast church program's. I am slightly confused about Genesis as well. I read the KJV every day. I also re-read multiple times to be sure I'm getting the whole correct story. I do sincerely believe in my heart &soul that I'm a Christian.Gen.1:27 (the sixth day) GOD created man in his own image, in the image of GOD created he him; male & female created he them.

    Then Gen.2:7 and the Lord GOD formed man of the dust of the ground & breathed into his nostrils the breath of life & man became a living soul. So am I reading right that GOD had created the races before he created Adam & Eve? Ty for ur help. GOD BLESS YOU TOO.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    April,

    In John 3:5, Jesus told Nicodemus that except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That might be the verse your church is referring to. It looks like they are telling you that the "born of water" represents the water bag that breaks right before a woman gives birth. So the water would represent physical birth and the spirit would represent spiritual birth. That I believe is incorrect.

    Some believe that "born of water" means Christian water baptism. That also is incorrect because Christian baptism was not known then. John's baptism was not Christian baptism. It was a baptism of repentance for the Jewish people.

    Nicodemus knew what Jesus meant by "born of water." He knew about John's baptism and that it was a baptism of repentance. It was a requirement by God that a Jewish person would declare God right by submitting to John's baptism because he said, as I said just earlier, that John was sent to prepare the way of Messiah.

    In John Chapter 1, the apostle John sets this theme by saying that John the Baptist said I baptize with water but there is one that is coming after me that baptizes with the Spirit. There you have the two ministries, water and spirit!

    As far as water baptism being required for salvation, there is no requirement. The only requirement for salvation is to receive Christ and be baptized by His Spirit.

    Now, I am not saying that you should not be water baptized. Christian baptism comes after salvation, not as a requirement for salvation. It is a means of identification. You are making a public testimony that you have died to your old nature, been buried with Christ, and rose with Christ as a new creation in Christ Jesus.

    I would have to disagree with what your church told you. If you wish to be baptized and they won't do it, find a church that will.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    Hi April.

    I don't believe being born of water through your mother has nothing to do with baptism at all.

    The baptism mentioned in the early Church was given while the church was in a transition, They started as all Jews. Jesus said he came for the lost sheep of Israel. When Christ was glorified then he told them to go out to the whole world.

    At the time Judaism was their religion which they had to denounce.

    They were to be baptized as an act of belief. It wasn't for salvation. It was Identifying with the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.

    Have you noticed Paul "one of the chief apostles" Was the apostle to the Gentiles and didn't put no emphasis on baptism?

    1 Corinthians 1:17.

    WOW! You mean Paul set up churches and ordained ministers such as Timothy and Titus and Christ didn't send him to baptize? Because the Gentiles wasn't bond to the ministry of death given by Moses ( that cause death ). You see baptism expressed the work Jesus came to do on the cross. ( Die in our place ) and rise the 3rd day.

    Baptize means to identify with.

    Here's how it is used in scripture.

    1 Corinthians 10:2. You see the children of Israel was identified with Moses faith, not there own. They was scared and wanted to go back to Egypt. and the see didn't baptize them, They went over on dry land.

    Here's another place it's used.

    Mark 16:16. Here Jesus is not asking to do two things as it seems, " Believe and be baptized " He's asking one. " Believe ". When you done this you done the other! You've been pit into the body of believers and Identified with Christ. That's baptism of the Holyspirit.

    EXAMPLE .

    Your standing in front the TV. and someone ask you to sit down and get out the way. Once you sit down You've gotten out the way. and once you've believed you've been baptized.

    And it's used like that in Acts 2:38. and several other places.

    It plays no role in redemption, It's your outward profession in what you believe that has been taken place.

    God bless.
  • Love of Jesus - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    Thank you Adam for ur comment, & your reference for me to seek information.
  • Love of Jesus - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    Ty Adam. I have been watching a gospel channel that said I don't have to get baptized. I grew up Baptist Church & was very surprised to hear that. I never got baptized because I am a firm believer that if I was baptized and fell into sin that I would never be allowed in heaven. Now 57 & just so you know I have been to many churches to learn about the difference and have for most of my life had a very close & personal relationship with my Lord & Savior & I talk to GOD every day. I am needing to be baptized but don't attend church church anymore due to the hypocrisy of every church I've been to.
  • Adam - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    Hello,

    I may suggest reading Acts 2:38. Notice it says 'every one of you'. It doesn't say just 'some of you' or 'only if your mom or other family hasn't been baptized'. So, when I read the Bible and trust that its words are true, I am also believing in faith that when it says 'every one of you' that it means 'every one of you', including you and me. Jesus made baptism a big deal, so I think the least I can do if I'm serious about following Him is to obey and be baptized. Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Matthew 28:19

    Perhaps another question is: are you a Christian? And if so why wouldn't you want to be baptized like Jesus said?

    You might also check out the verses on this page: Link

    God bless...
  • April on Deuteronomy 25 - 2 years ago
    My church says I don't need to be baptized because I have been born of water through my mother. Is there any scripture to confirm that? Or do I absolutely need to be baptized even if I am a real Christian in my life. Very close & personal relationship with my lord and savior Jesus Christ?
  • BSP on Deuteronomy 25 - 6 years ago
    The judges were to judge in fairness and without partiality.
  • April on Deuteronomy 25 - 7 years ago
    Hello All!,Shalome,I wanted to comment on this women were looked at nothing back then stuff going on and why it was forbidden ect,ect I think that it was aimed towards if her husband was being smited for something he did wrong and she's trying to save him from that,she is not to intervene from him getting what Gods wrath is,which we call Gods WRATH due to EVIL ways he despises it...
  • Irene123 on Deuteronomy 25 - 7 years ago
    2 yrs. ago, J. Derfler - quote,"..... not what has been taught for so long as a place of eternal suffering .....", unquote. Matt.13:24, v. 50; 2 Pet.3:7; Rev.19:20; 20:10; 21:8. Derfler says hell is death, period. we know nothing, no pain, torment. Jesus himself says hell will be cast into the lake of fire - where there is torment forever and ever.
  • Dilbert on Deuteronomy 25 - 9 years ago
    John derfler, According to Revelation 14:11, "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. " There are also verses throughout Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John where hell i sdescribed as a place of fire.
  • John derfler on Deuteronomy 25 - 9 years ago
    Deuteronomy 25 1 3 are very important versus. It limits the punishment one person can be subject to, 40 stripes and no more. This is important because God is also limited by his own law. Hell is eternal death, not what has been taught for so long as a place of eternal suffering. For Gods elect, or for the unsaved of the world 40 stripes is the total extent of eternal punishment, from the LORD. I hope this truth will help troubled souls.
  • Shay on Deuteronomy 25:16 - 9 years ago
    Our creator, Jehovah God, hates injustice. And since we are created in his image we hate injustice too. The injustice is not God 's doing. Many people misuse the free will we have to practice injustice.
  • James on Deuteronomy 25 - 10 years ago
    Luvo, Amalek was a living person mentioned in Genesis.
  • Clint on Deuteronomy 25 - 10 years ago
    great book
  • Luvo on Deuteronomy 25:17 - 12 years ago
    Two things:1.I see Amalek as satan and that,the chance he gets he uses it to kill us.So when we sin against God we open that chance for satan.And when we do so,he starts from our week points up to our strong holds.2.The Israelites are urged to remember Amalek,but God is directing the children of Isreal not to what Amalik did but to what brought the feirce attack of Amalek"their sin".They tampted God and sin against Hin,hence the place was called Massa and Merriba.
  • James on Deuteronomy 25 - 12 years ago
    What I have found out about the meaning of Deueronomy 25: 11-12.
    After searching some commentaries I believe there are two answers to your questions.
    The first, it seemed to be well known to people of those times, that not in battle, or in any other similar case,
    A man's private parts were not to be touched.

    She may have used bad judgment, or in her hast to help free her husband from harm forgot that it was a forbidden act.
    The second, is described as a passion, there are some who really enjoy hurting another human in a sexual manner.
    Either one at that time would have been considered a crime.
    I hope this might help you, and please keep studying the bible.
    May God Bless? KJV
  • Anonymous on Deuteronomy 25 - 12 years ago
    @ Anonymous

    I agree. It does not make sense that they would kill her for saving her husband, but back then women were not thought of as thinking feeling individuals, but more like men�s property. This is outlined in that she had to marry her husband's brother. This all began to change when Jesus was born, read up on Mary Magdalene for more.
  • Anonymous on Deuteronomy 25 - 13 years ago
    verse 11 and 12 why will they cut off her hand for saving her husbands life? this makes no sense


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