Deuteronomy Chapter 24 Discussion



 
  • Richard H Priday on Deuteronomy 24 - 2 years ago
    The first four verses contain the somewhat controversial saying in regard to a man divorcing his wife due to "uncleanness". It would seem that it could only refer to a wife not being a virgin BEFORE an espousement period; as an engagement had the same punishment as that of someone actually married-the death penalty for relations with another man. Women were expected to be virgins; and in this situation if it turned out that they weren't they were free to marry another. They could not return if the next husband dumped them or he died. As I read scripture, once a marriage is CONSUMMATED at least in the New Testament as long as the spouse lives; one cannot remarry another. If uncleanness meant some sickness or not; that is open to debate.

    There are further admonitions for new husbands in v. 5; and pledges in v. 6. Interestingly; what Joseph's brothers did would be liable for a death penalty according to v. 7.

    Leprosy is briefly touched upon in verse 7 as to rules for cleanness; with a sobering reminder of what happened with Miriam cited earlier in scripture.

    Rules on pledges follow; followed by fair timely payment for a hired servant. Verse 16 discusses what is found in Ezekiel regarding a son not being held liable for a father's sin and vice versa.

    The rest of the verses remind us of how to treat the orphan and widow. It is a repeated admonition to save food and not do a final gleaning of various produce of the field. It reminds us of the verse in James; about true religion and helping out the orphan and widow. ( James 1:27).

    The scripture clearly teaches many statutes that are still binding today. The only real change is that of ceremonial foods; (as God directed Peter on in the Book of Acts); and the Sabbath (Christ is now Lord of the Sabbath). However; anyone who does not keep the whole law is cursed. Hence; Christ is the fulfillment of the law; and the true substance thereof.
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24 - 2 years ago
    Don't let the sun go down on a debit, usury was unlawful and is still forbidden to borrow from the lost a big NO but if borrow and agree to repay it you must repay it. It's called being honest and having integrity, having a good name among all men. do unto others as you'd have others do unto you, what if someone didn't repay you? Love, is not paying back love? love your brother, love your neighbor, love your enemy.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24 - 2 years ago
    Hope you find these scriptures helpful.

    Matthew 18:21-35, Matthew 6:12,14, Mark 11:26, Luke 11:4, Leviticus 23, Leviticus 25, Numbers 30, Ecclesiastes 5:4,5, Ezekiel 18:7-32,

    Deuteronomy 23, Proverbs 28:8, Psalms 15:5, Ezekiel 22:12,
  • DENISE THORNLEY on Deuteronomy 24 - 2 years ago
    What restrictions was placed on the collection of debt?
  • Mishael - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:16 - 2 years ago
    We have to obey those that have rule over us:

    Government, law enforcement etc.

    People changed the laws as time goes by.

    All of us as citizens have a right to challenge law changes; from the city level all the way to the White House. Nobody had time for those public forums, and those who were pushing those laws through, accomplished passing them.

    Read the WOES in the Bible. We are to be vigilant when evil people attempt to do away with Gods plan for mankind.

    Isaiah 3: 9-11; Isaiah 5:11-30

    In Isaiah 6 sees a vision of the Lord and what was happening around His Throne. Is. 6:5. Isaiah understands just how vile we are compared to The Holiness of God. It's inspiring. Answer the question the Godhead asks of us all, in Isaiah 6:8

    We're not powerless children. We are meant to defend what is written in the entire Bible. Let's just do what we can, beginning in our own private homes; our churches; and perhaps our communities: in the Spirit of love and brotherhood.

    The hour is late. Soon, Jesus will come for us in the clouds. Maranatha.

    Learn all you can about this God man, Jesus, whom we will be living with...eternally.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:16 - 2 years ago
    Brother Paul, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth PASS...till ALL BE FULFILLED.

    Before Christ's death and resurrection, Christ DID NOT dwell or live in man; but in (old) heaven and (old) earth, the OLD DWELLING PLACE of GOD, temples made by man's hands.

    After Christ's death and resurrection; the old heaven and old earth PASSED AWAY, and ALL THINGS were made NEW. A New Heaven and A New Earth. Christ now dwells in us.

    Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth (CHRIST IN YOU): for the first heaven and the first earth WERE PASSED AWAY (already completed).

    This fulfils the words he spoke in Matthew 5:18, Mark 13:31, Matthew 24:35, Luke 21:33, etc.

    The law and prophets were fulfilled at Christ's death and resurrection; therefore all the laws and ordinances of the Old Testament are NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

    Heaven and earth HAVE PASSED; the law and prophets NAVE BEEN FULFILLED.
  • Brother Dan - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:16 - 2 years ago
    "THE LAW" as referred to by Jesus is the 10 Commandments..it doesn't say anything about stoning anyone in this LAW.

    Jesus did not let the adulteress get stoned in the scripture below:

    John 8:2-10 Context

    2And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. 3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

    In scripture, Jesus and his apostles refer many times to keeping the 10 commandments. Here are two verses spoken by Jesus

    John 14:15

    "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    John 15:10

    "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

    As Christians .if we keep God's commandments, we WILL NOT kill or stone anyone. The 6th Commandment: THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

    Matthew 5:18. Is saying that God's 10 commandments are in force until the end of this earth.

    God Bless
  • Adam - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:16 - 2 years ago
    Hi Paul,

    Notice that what you said in your sentence is not what Matthew 5:18 says. The verse says 'til all be fulfilled' not 'end of time' as you said.

    The Bible says Jesus came to earth to fulfil the law. Hover or click on this for proof: Matthew 5:17. Note that Jesus came after the Israelites and after the Old Testament was written.

    Jesus's mission was to die for the sins of the world. John 3:16

    Notice that after Jesus completed his mission he said 'it is finished': John 19:30.

    So, Jesus fulfilled the law. People had lots of laws then including Israelites who had nearly 1000 laws, not just moral, but civil and ceremonial. They were huge in number and governed themselves like a country.

    However, even though Jesus fulfilled the law, we are still obligated to follow the moral law. John 14:15. Example: do not kill, lie, cheat, worship false gods, commit sexual immorality, blasphemy, etc.

    They did stoning back then. Public stonings are still done today in places in the middle east.

    The Bible does not instruct Christians to stone anyone. One must differentiate what is moral law that applies to 'me' and what was a civil or ceremonial law that only applied to a people group at that time. Israelites were God's chosen people so they were given different attention than others as well.
  • Paul on Deuteronomy 24:16 - 2 years ago
    Jesus says that not a single letter of the law will be changed until the end of time. Matthew 5:18

    How does this apply to stoning adulterers and homosexuals as outlined in Deuteronomy and Leviticus?
  • Paul on Deuteronomy 24:16 - 2 years ago
    Deut 24:16.

    Ok, we may not kill a father or son for the others sins but may we sanction them in other less lethal ways?
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24 - 3 years ago
    In the context of that chapter in Deuteronomy, "stranger" would apply to someone not in the farmer's family & specifically to any passer-by or one who might be hungry & has no store of food. The Israelite farmer is instructed to not pick the olive or grapes till all the edibles are removed from the tree/vine, but to leave some behind for the passer-by, the widow & the orphan who may not be able to buy food. This was a small & subtle way of sharing something of what we possess to help others.
  • Henrique Ordine on Deuteronomy 24 - 3 years ago
    What do they mean by stranger here? On verse 20 and 21 and 23.
  • John Rodgers on Deuteronomy 24:1 - 3 years ago
    All the reformers agreed the Anti Christ is the Papacy.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:1 - 3 years ago
    Just talk to an attorney. You don't want him to take you to court to pay your part of rent or file on you for abandonment of financial stuff like credit card balances. See if you have Legal Aid in your town? Be smart. Don't date till it's all over legally.
  • Sharisse Torres - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:1 - 3 years ago
    I understand what you said but it is the husband that has been cheating and once the wife found out he was very upset She found out and said for her to leave For snooping into his things and paid to get her stuff out that night.

    does that not technically be considered him divorcing her and does not want her in the house if he kicks her out. Then he files divorce on the courts next week

    So if she talks to another man in between time then is she in the wrong?
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:1 - 3 years ago
    This was the Lord's directive concerning a lawful divorce. In the event that a man finds 'uncleanness' in his (new) wife, then he is permitted to give her a letter of divorce absolving the marriage. The word 'uncleanness' is from the Hebrew, 'erwat', which allows for past lewdness, present indecency or shameful exposure. Such a character history can be grounds for divorce & she is therefore forced to leave the house. No alimony involved here - she's out on her own & probably has to endure family rejection as well.

    So, she runs into the arms of another man & guess what? He finds out that she has been less than honourable, so he boots her out as well. Verse 4 then says that the first husband is not permitted to take her back again because she has been defiled by the second. For some unknown reason the first husband might want her back - they never learn. No waiting period is seen here - she just has to flit around until someone doesn't pick up on her past history.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:1 - 3 years ago
    Sounds too loose. Get an attorney as soon as possible.
  • Sharisse Torres on Deuteronomy 24:1 - 3 years ago
    Question?

    The verse Deuteronomy 24:1, If a man has a wife and sends her out of the house with cussing words and violence and states she is no longer welcome and pays for her to move out of house and divorce. Is she free to be with another man? Is there a waiting period before she speak too or be with another man?
  • Leah - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:4 - 4 years ago
    Yes I love reading what everyone has written here. We do need prayer from all..God help us all to have understanding of your word so we can walk like Jesus and knowing that no one comes to the father but through your son Jesus Christ. God give love to all. Thank you Leah
  • Mishael on DOG SPIRITS on Deuteronomy 24:4 - 4 years ago
    Philippians 3:2 and Revelation 22:15

    Beware of dogs ( Gal. 5:15), beware of evil workers, beware of the concision ( Romans 2:28)

    Revelation 22:14-15.

    Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the gates Into the city.

    For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    You have to stop and ponder on what real dogs do. Their noses are always where they shouldn't be, etc.

    It's stunning to ponder. I've worked with people like that. Run in packs; respect nothing; have to be the king of the pack.

    I said it was brutal.

    A spirit is a demon; dog spirit.
  • Mack Sims on Deuteronomy 24:4 - 4 years ago
    I would like to start out by thinking each and everyone who have shared and given me the time to read some of your comments. It's not every day that i take time to set and read bible verses and spend time with my father. although I pray and ask him to use me, I surrender, God is a merciful God and I want to spend more time with him and doing his will. just as you have given me a chance to comment there are other brothers and sisters out there, that God want to reach though us by commenting and connecting each of us to his will.

    Though God I can do all things
  • Adam on Deuteronomy 24 - 4 years ago
    God is good!
  • Divine Princess - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24:4 - 4 years ago
    Hi Carol, you are allowed to remarry the person should you wish. It is only when your ex had remarried after your divorce, get divorced again, that he MAY NOT marry you. So if there was no other marriage in between, you are allowed to remarry him. If will thus be your free will...Shux who ever does that is a much person than me...I could never !!!!! If you could live with it, it is no problem. Hope it helps Carol. All my Jesus love !!!!
  • Divine Princess - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24 - 4 years ago
    Hi, I believe that that wad an act of unbelive, that they did not believe Father's Word and serious consequences to disobedience. I dont believe that Father would expect a person to take ones ex-husband back if he had slept with another woman. That person made a bad choice and one has to forgive, but apply ones one free will and not obliged.

    Thank you

    Jesus reigns
  • Mishael on Genesis 16 - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24 - 4 years ago
    Divine Princess:

    There is an example. Abraham and Sarah. She thought she was too old to get pregnant. She gives Haggar her maid to Abraham to obtain a child. Haggard has a baby, Ishmael. Nothing is said about any other relations between Abraham and Haggar once she was pregnant. I have no idea if that was a custom "on the book".

    Genesis chapter 16
  • Divine Princess - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24 - 4 years ago
    Hi CAROL ! Has anybody answered you yet wrt to your question ? I would also love to know. I hope the answer is NO. That Father would not expect a woman to take back her ex-husband if he had slept with another woman.
  • Frank C Edwards on Deuteronomy 24:8 - 4 years ago
    Being in transition of my purpose in life, my body is as assenital as the mind. So by far fasting is rebirth of the digestive system, so my ? is the consumption of pork now different from teachings of the old testament than new?
  • Stanjett - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24 - 4 years ago
    Freemasonry is of the Devil. Get out while you can.
  • Charlotte on Deuteronomy 24 - 4 years ago
    These were laws for the Jewish people. Jesus fulfilled the laws when he died on the cross. Don't bog your lives down by trying to live by the laws. Follow the Pauline principles for how to conduct your lives as Christians saved by grace.
  • Freedomborn in Christ - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24 - 4 years ago
    Hi Stangett, it seems like I was your confused in regard to some Scriptures, My confusion was mostly because of the contradictions with some who Taught it but I was ok with others. The Lord showed me the need to ask for His Wisdom which none of us were Born with Proverbs 4:7 - James 1:5 I than started to understand His Truth although I'm still learning the confusion is gone. Blessings - Anne.


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