Deuteronomy Chapter 2 Discussion



 
  • Carleton on Deuteronomy 2
    Thank you Adam.
  • Mr, E on Deuteronomy 2
    Do you think that we Live in A Fallen World ?
  • Andrew Kingsly Raj - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    Yes Ofcourse

    2 Corinthians 4:4

    In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
  • Mr,E - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    What I mean is that we live in a fallen world where values have been forgotten and day after day this world is crazier, we have reached a stage where money replaces life, they are no longer the times of before every day we are closer to annihilating what made us human that essence that joy and we contemplate more the material and forget about our families. And instead of focusing on the true we have put our eyes on the temporary. Instead of really appreciating life and every day we fall further into the abyss. That is what I mean, and what do you think?
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    Hi Mr E.

    Romans 8:22. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

    The Whole world was falling when we thought it was Great.
  • Andrew Kingsly Raj - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    Yeah, People Love world rather than God

    Christian is all about the relationship we had with God

    1 John 2:15

    Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

    James 4:8

    Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you.
  • Leyla Borlak on Deuteronomy 2
    There is a place in the bible that gives if calm when others force the words of " don't be prejudice... They are people too..."

    I'm trying to not be derogatory. I want plainly a spot in my bible that describes it.

    The offspring of a closely related family others others birthed from sabotage of a good family.

    I can't remember the pages and the verses.

    The pages are above a 1000.

    Where should I read.

    ?
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    Hi Leyla.

    Perhaps this is what you're looking for.

    Exodus 22:21 (KJV) Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

    or

    Leviticus 19:33-34 (KJV) And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.

    But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

    I hope that helps.
  • Bob Hilt on Deuteronomy 2
    Susannah, Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children OF of the wicked one;

    1 John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was OF of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

    So is Adam the wicked one? The denominational church world does not seem to know....
  • Susannah on Deuteronomy 2
    I was taught that the ones Jesus was talking to from the cross were the children of the first liar and murderer. (Cain) The ones who pretended to be Jews from the first by attaching themselves to them by getting to be the scribes of Judah. (woe to you scribes and Pharisees). Kenites are who he is referring to. They still try to put themselves in the place of God's people. Just the way satan always tries to assume God's place (the reason he was kicked out in the first place). He will return trying to take the Messiah's place as the anti Christ. Cain. Ever questioned why Cain's not in Adam's genealogy? A poser isn't it?
  • Lynn on Deuteronomy 2
    Very concerned; the qurstion uses an explanation in error when it attributes Lot & Esau having descendants from Moabites & Ammonites. Those 2 decendants are both from Lot's older & younger daughter. Esau's decendants are the Edomites.
  • Chris - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    In Deut 2:9 & 2:19, it shows the Moabites & Ammonites as children of Lot. And so they are because of the incest of Lot's two daughters with their father (the daughters husbands, as you know, were left behind in Sodom, because of their unbelief that God would destroy the city).

    And in 2:4, the children of Israel also had to "not meddle" with the children of Esau, as the Lord had given them land (Mt. Seir). And yes, Esau's descendants are the Edomites. So, I see the references to these three groups of people quite distinct & not confusing. Is this how you see it too?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    Does Moab have mountains?
  • Faye ballard - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    I don't think so (desert)
  • Chris - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    I read that Moab doesn't have mountains, but 'rolling hills'. But in case, you're referring to Mt. Seir which is in Edom, then it is the mountainous region of Edom, between the Dead Sea & Gulf of Aqaba.

    However, if you actually mean Moab, Utah, I further read that it does have mountains (La Sal mountains) and great lakes, very good for trout fishing.
  • Chris - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    Mishael,

    "Powerful people are pushing Israel to relinquish ALL the land that they reclaimed in the 6 Day War. Land that they need for all the Jews that will return."

    I wonder whether we can bank on Gen 15:18 & 17:8, where God covenants with Abram that his seed will get all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates & ALL the Land of Canaan (for an everlasting possession). What the world (United Nations in 1947) has done to Israel is despicable & will be severely judged for this wicked act. To give Israel a sliver of land to ease their tainted consciences does despite to God's Holy Word. God does not forget His Promises & we will see mighty things happen in that land. Now, if only Israel would acknowledge their Messiah & repent of what they had done to him, Israel would be in a whole different situation now & truly "a holy & peculiar people unto the Lord" ( Deut 14:2).
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    Chris, how do you or anyone know those over in the middle east are in fact Jews? Because they say so?

    Jesus in bible book of Revelation 2:9 says I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

    46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

    47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

    48 Then answered the Jews

    Then answered the Jews

    Then answered the Jews

    Then answered the Jews

    pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL. (God's chosen people?)

    King James Bible Jesus speaks to some of the Jews in John 10:23 - 29:And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the JEWS (THE JEWS) round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.

    Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

    "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you."

    But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

    The United Nations in 1948 created that state, not the Lord, and the United Nations is openly satanic.

    Their official publisher is Lucis publishing, originally Lucifer Trust.
  • Chris - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    Bob, as I see it, there are three types of Jews being spoken of in the Bible: the True Jew (i.e. one who not only 'kept' God's Commandments but also understood & practised their real significance (e.g. Mk 12:42-44: the widow; Jn 3; 7:50; 19:39: Nicodemus). Second type: the Jew whom Jesus often condemned for their spiritual condition & behaviour (e.g. Jn 8:44, which you quoted). Third type: mixed Jews as a result of the Diaspora (586 BC) into Babylon & following mixed marriages throughout the centuries in various lands.

    So, who is the real Jew? How does one assess that given their largely mixed blood & by God's determination only? And, of the Jews whom the Lord condemned were of their father, the Devil, did they cease being Jews physically, or was Jesus speaking about their wicked spiritual condition? Only God can determine that when the time of reckoning with them comes.

    Whether reference is made to those Jews, or the Israel of God ( Gal 6:16), the fact is that there will be a regathering of Israel according to Isa 11:10-12. And though they are in unbelief (& one could add the 'real' Jews' dilution) Ezek 37:1-8, Israel will be established as a nation before the Anti-Christ's appearing ( Isa 28:15-18, 22) even though they make a covenant with death & Sheol = AntiChrist (v 15).

    As Christians, we are indeed His sheep, the true Israel through Jesus Christ, but it remains that God has not forgotten His people, however mixed & adulterous they are, with whom He covenanted & they will figure prominently in the last days & many of them will be restored into His sheepfold.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    It's like you said before, the Messianic Christians will be caught up with ALL the young children, just like us. Those left on earth will know what happened, and repent I pray. The 2 witnesses, the 144,000 and angelic evangelists will convert many.

    The Antichrist will chase the unsaved out of Jerusalem, and sit on the Throne. I saw a passage that indicates they will flee to Moab. Even tho the 2 countries have been at odds forever. But now Moab takes them in and hides them, in the hills? I should've written down that scripture. I study till I pass out, sometimes.

    I no longer think these events will take a long period of time for it to set up.

    Not all of the Jews will turn to Jesus as Messiah. The Russians, Syria and Iran are joined to China now; building that road. Russia will be totally leveled by The Lord.

    There's just so much picking up speed. Forever is Just a word now.
  • 34
    And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Really Lord? You want to kill little ones and women. This makes me sad. Why kill the women and little ones?? I changed my mind. It don't make me sad, it makes me mad. And don't tell me it's Gods will. How could this be a loving Gods will?
  • The Lord God is awesome!
  • Ole man spirit on Deuteronomy 2
    2ND COMMENT TO DENISE: Ezekiel 9:6 Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Thus I have delivered 2 verses that state the obvious. Isai 45:7 says I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil. I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS. THE LORD CHASTISETH US THAT HE LOVES/HE AINT GOOD ALL THE TIME. May Yahowah bless u!
  • Ole Man Spirit on Deuteronomy 2
    This comment is for Denise. If you look at 2 Kings 2:22: verse 23 Elisha was coming out of town and a some youths was picking at him/and Elisha called down a curse from the Lord on them/2 bears come out of the woods and mauled 42 of them. Elisha kept on getting up. I have paraphrased due to limited characters on post..these were children!!!!Mauled!!!
  • Denise on Deuteronomy 2
    But what about the "little ones" being destroyed, aren't they innocent?
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    I don't understand either why the women and little ones was killed. But God does what he wants. I'll be sure to ask him this when I see him face to face.
  • Christ Magnified Glorifying Jesus on Deuteronomy 2
    Day 48 of Bible Reading in a Year. God's Word is a story, a documentary, a novel, historical and true. It speaks of real people that God had and was showing and proving himself too. People have not changed since then. Hearing and reading His words and believing His promises requires faith. With the coming of the Spirit of Christ we can understand by faith through grace and continue in faith.
  • Geraldine cole on Deuteronomy 2
    The Lord Jesus will do Just what he said .he is the only one we can Trust while we live here on the Earth we are not of this world we are visitors here to do a work for the Lord Jesus and when we have done our work he will call us to our real home in Heaven that why we can give our problems to the Lord while we are her and Jesus will hear us when we call on him he will answer us
  • Irene123 on Deuteronomy 2
    Vs. 33-34; it's the same with the Ishmaelite descendants who worship Allah; their children are taught the way of Allah, BUT if they are killed BEFORE the age of reason, knowing the truth - they are with God forever. It's the same with all children that too young to understand. When you see a photo of a child holding a gun - you know he is 'aware' of what he is doing, that a gun is for killing.
  • Jennifer on Deuteronomy 2
    Eric. I wondered this same thing but after praying and asking and searching, I feel that it is because when those children grow up, they will come back trying to take the land from God's people.
  • Memmay on Deuteronomy 2
    Love reading this book in the bible. I thrill reading the accounts of God 's word and instructions given to the people. It 's like being there. And, although written hundreds of years earlier than today, knowing this is the same God, who became flesh so we could receive salvation is both awe inspiring and Instills a Godly fear in my heart. How amazing to think God loves His Creations! That includes people. However, God hates sin and will not share the same space with it. He would that none should perish, but that all people would come repent from sin to Him. Amen


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