Daniel Chapter 10 Discussion



 
  • Philip Christian Parks on Daniel 10
    the prince of the kingdom of Persia; v.13 = The use of the title "prince" in The Old Testament is synonymous with that in The New Testament. If this prince is indeed an angelic personality, very possibly he is one of the chief angels of whom Apostle Paul identified as a "principality".

    In the New Testament, the Greek noun (pronounced "ar-KAY") occurs in English Biblical translations as "principality" or "- ies". Apostle Paul is the primary New Testament writer who used "arche" to refer to living entities.

    The term "principalities" identify individuals occupying the highest, supreme rank, and possessing power and authority equal to that rank.

    While Paul may have referred to the Roman emperor and other political rulers of his day in certain contexts (e.g. Rom. 8:38; Tit. 3:1), he most certainly included the spirits of the angelic realm as well (cp. Eph. 3:10; 6:12; Col. 2:15), even Satan whose titles include "the prince of the power of the air" ( Eph. 2:2), and "the god of this world" ( 2Cor. 4:4).

    No doubt, Paul also considered the eschatological Antichrist of the Tribulation Period, of whom "the dragon (Satan) gave him (the Antichrist) his power, and his seat {throne}, and great authority" ( Rev. 13:2). Paul even wrote about this Satan possessed "man of sin" (2Thes. 2:3-4).

    Depraved man desires to replace worshiping JEHOVAH GOD with worshiping angels (e.g. Deu. 32:17; 1Cor. 10:20; 1Tim. 4:1).

    The New Testament often refers to the angelic realm as "principality(-ies)" linking them with:

    + angels ( Rom. 8:38);

    + "powers in heavenly places" ( Eph. 3:10);

    + "the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" ( Eph. 6:12);

    + "all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible (? angels?)" ( Col. 1:16).

    All other New Testament usages of the noun "beginning" (arche) describe the first position in initiation, commencement, or sequence.
  • Philip Christian Parks on Daniel 10
    Daniel 10:13; Michael = The name "Michael" means, "Who is like GOD?" He is just "one of the chief princes", meaning he occupies the rank and status of an "archangel" (Jude v.9) as a chief or prince over a number of holy angels ( Rev. 12:7).

    Some believe this Michael is the Old Testament identity of The SON OF GOD due to his description as "the great prince which stands for the children of thy (Daniel's) people (the Jews)" (12:1).

    But this Michael surely is not The SON OF GOD, for he is described simply as "one of the chief princes" (v.13), implying there are many more angels that hold the position of archangel. LORD JESUS CHRIST, The KING of kings and LORD of lords, would not occupy a title designation of equality as simply one of the chief princes.

    The reader may correctly assume that Michael champions GOD's Purposes for Israel and the Jewish nation as just one of his responsibilities. Compare the expression, "Michael your prince" (v.21).

    Hermeneutics may interpret this expression to identify Michael as an archangel rather than GOD HIMSELF or HIS MESSIAH/CHRIST. The verb "help" certainly implies a rather benign insufficiency in comparison to GOD's Omnipotence.
  • Bev on Daniel 10
    Can you explain Daniel Chapter 10: 1-21, I understand it a little, I would like more understanding.

    Thanks

    Bev.
  • Janet Pitcher on Daniel 10
    why was daniel mourning in chpt. 10:2
  • Bendito Palavra - in Reply on Daniel 10
    The reason for Daniel mourning in chapter 10 is not specified here, but if we look at chapter 9 we can see he had a great burden for his people and longed for the day when they could return to Jerusalem. He humbled himself and sought the LORD, confessing his and Israel's sin, and implored the LORD according his mercy to fulfill the number of days of their captivity.
  • Johnny MELVIN taylor on Daniel 10
    i enjoyed chapter 10 i know the same God that strengthen Daniel will also strengthen us as we go through this pademic .
  • Sheila W on Daniel 10
    Is this chapter about the endtimes or something that has already happened in history of the Israelites?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Daniel 10
    You'll do better to google The book with a verse. So you can see a sermon that was preached on that. Read the website names and pick one that is Christian, and not a false religion
  • Frances Warren on Daniel 10
    Daniel 9:25-27 Can you help me to understand Who are they speaking of?

    Thank you.
  • Mishael in Daniel chapter 9 - in Reply on Daniel 10
    In my Bible, at the top of the page, it lists the chapter speaking on: The Messiah Fortold.

    The portion you question goes from Daniel ch 9 verses 16-37 are talking about the destruction of the temple and the end of sacrifices. Jesus is our sacrifice.

    Chapters 10-12 begins the prophesies concerning latter days, the Antichrist 11:37
  • Vern on Daniel 10
    Michael is an Arch Angel, Chief Angel, Prince, or Messenger of God. He could not be Jesus the Christ. The book of Hebrews clearly explains the Deity of Christ and gives the reasons why Michael and Jesus are Not the same. Read the beginning Chapters of Hebrew. This will clear up any confusion. The Lord Jesus and God our Heavenly Father are not about confusion. We must read and search the entire Bible to be sure and to show ourselves approved.
  • Paul - in Reply on Daniel 10
    And The Trinity is not confusing?
  • Vern - in Reply on Daniel 10
    It depends. Where does that originate from? In Genesis the first book of the Bible it reads: 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth. 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 15:26 But when the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceeded from the Father, he shall testify of me. Is this the Trinity you are referring to? The only (trinity) I can find in Gods written word.
  • Paul - in Reply on Daniel 10
    The confusion? .......and the Word was WITH God and the Word WAS God. Please explain.
  • Vern - in Reply on Daniel 10
    Ok. I see where you could be confused here. When I come to understand these pages in the Holy Scriptures (66 books combined written by 40 different holy men of God) I did not get at first either. Through much prayer and receiving Jesus in to my heart as the Holy Spirit moved, I was shown these understandings. God Father, Jesus (Son) and the Comforter or Holy Spirit are actually 3 persons who were together in the beginning as the scripture says. That is why God the Father says let us make them (man and women) in our image. The Son as who is Jesus in John 1:14 And the Word or Jesus was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth. Some things will be shown to you as you grow and trust in the Lord with all your heart. It's a growing and learning experience. I have done many Bible studies over 45 years of my life. God is faithful to keep his promises. He asks us to study and search his words as you are doing. Some will always be learning and not receive the knowledge. We have to have faith to know the things of God. He will guide as he searches the heart of a man. I enjoy reading Corinthians 1 and 2 books. These books were an eye opener for me. Through the Holy Spirit the Lord can talk directly to you in visions and dreams just as he did before. That is real. It happens more than people know. This is a faith builder and it will strengthen you for what is coming in the future events. I personally love reading Daniel and Revelation. These books are another realm in itself. I hope this helps you Paul. May God continue to impress these truths upon your heart and may God bless you.
  • Paul - in Reply on Daniel 10
    Thank you for the reply! Your answer, in part, is that there were three persons in the beginning. Please, what do you mean by 'beginning'?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Daniel 10
    The first thing God did was create TIME. He is the Alpha and the Omega: the beginning and the End. Original language here says 'In Beginning'. Not: In The Beginning

    God exists inside and outside of time. He sees everything.
  • Paul - in Reply on Daniel 10
    Thank you. Is time relevant to matter?
  • Vern - in Reply on Daniel 10
    I believe time is relevant to matter. God created on a time table. He calls humans very good. Probably before we start our sinning. Jesus is like the Great sin eraser. I think repentance is the motion to erase sin. This is not written in the Bible...I didn't get to put my book in there.
  • Chris - in Reply on Daniel 10
    Paul, time & matter are connected, but only if you bring in space & energy into the equation also. Through a series of hypotheses, one can prove this relationship where motion in space must also be a factor. But if you're not interested in the physical laws or hypotheses in your question, but more concerned with the aspect of time in God's eternal framework, then matter only exists in His Creation, & time as a result of His Creation. Without His Creative Work, neither matter nor time can exist: just emptiness. God is not matter, but is Spirit. As such, He is not subject to nor constrained by physical laws. All our demonstrable physical laws are a part of & result of God's Great Design, so physics is simply an examination of those laws, but faith gives understanding & acceptance of God's Wisdom in the design of His creation & the laws which prove it.
  • Paul - in Reply on Daniel 10
    Thank you, Chris. You claim that God is not matter. Is God energy?
  • Chris - in Reply on Daniel 10
    Paul, I'm unsure where you want to take this line of enquiry, but to attempt an answer: as mentioned, God is Spirit, but He is also the Creator of all things, including natural & physical laws. Re: is God Energy? If by this you mean that He expends energy in His Being or in His Activity, then as a mere human with limitations in understanding & revelation, I would say, No.

    In man's understanding, Energy can be divided into fourteen types, or more, which includes mechanical, electrical, magnetic, gravitational, nuclear, thermal, sound wave to name a few. If we try to fit God's Being into any of these types, we will always fail, as God is God & is not subject to any limitations or production of energy. One could argue that since He is Light or that when He speaks or moves, then surely energy must be evident & expended. The error here is that all energy that is produced, is dependent on either mass or existence of matter/particles that lead to energy's production. And God does not fulfil any of these requirements, simply because He is Spirit, the Invisible God (to our eyes), & not subject to the laws that are a part of His Creation & to which we mere earthlings are subject to.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Daniel 10
    To PAUL: Yes. Genesis 1:1 explains what all scientists are trying to explain or discover:

    Time. Force. Action. Matter.

    It's already discovered that the universe is moving away from earth.

    I believe as described in Ezekiel 28 and Genesis, that something huge hit the earth. The earth was void; dark. Lucifer (before he was named satan) was the Big Bang (my guess). No one has been able to determine how long Lucifer and the 1/3 of the evil angels who were thrown to earth were in the void; creating pre-adamic people's, dinosaurs; all we have about it, is bones, How long? Time had not been set in motion YET.

    Time was created for man, otherwise we'd live forever. Next God created Light. Jesus said that He is the Light of the world. In beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God. God the Father, Jesus the Son & the Holy Spirit ARE the LET US in verse 26.

    I think there would be much knowledge put together rightly if scientists (some of them) would accept that Creation makes more sense, than evolution with no God it. Early scientists were Christian, fascinated with what they were discovering about earth. Even I can see why satan was upset with God receiving the credit. He lost his deed to planet earth at the Cross of Jesus; the Son of God. All Satan is now is a destroyer of the life that comes from God. He tried to get permission to kill Job, but God would not permit! He thought he had killed Jesus, but Jesus was resurrected and that was recorded by many witnesses alive then. Thanks to the Pharisees that had Roman guards posted by Jesus's tomb till Sunday. Jesus's tomb is on display every day..empty!

    The Book of Revelation is Truth and a final Battle will be fought between Jesus and Satan. It's all going to happen as written.

    I ask all unbelieving scientists WHY wouldn't you want to live eternally in New Jerusalem, and see, study...what happens NEXT?! Why wouldn't you want to meet the CREATOR of everything? He'd love to meet you :)
  • I am on Daniel 10
    Happy Birth day MICHAEL, O Prince of peace, even the Messiah! Happy Birth day, though thou art from everlasting to everlasting, O JESUS:
  • Cecelia Graves on Daniel 10
    Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me, how Daniel was touched by God and was given much strength, where as before he had none. This is amazing loo the power of GOD!!!
  • I AM THAT I AM: on Daniel 10
    But I will shew thee that which is noted in the Scripture of truth: and THERE IS none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your Prince.
  • I, even I, am that Michael Isaac Dale: on Daniel 10
    See the envy of the wicked? Ordained to this condemnation, it blasphemes the Name of Christ: EVEN the Holy Ghost. Yet, for this very thing it is written in the Holy Scriptures, as given by God the Father: If we believe not, YET he abides faithful: he cannot deny himself. And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected: but received me as an Angel of God, EVEN as Christ Jesus.
  • Bill on Daniel 10
    I'd like to make a correction to Vernon Cartwright's comment about Dan..10: 13, 21 stating that according to these scriptures, it is clear that Michael is Christ. Please take another look, Dan..10: 13 states, but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me Michael is the Arc Angel that assisted Christ in the struggle with the Prince of Persia Satan ! Christ is not Michael!
  • Anthony van Duyn - in Reply on Daniel 10
    Your argument is somewhat prevaricated upon the prince of Persia being Satan, which is not the best logic either. It is logical though to assume that the Christ had a form and a name prior to his existence here on Earth. Hence Michael literally means "One who is like God", for "he who has seen me has seen the Father". Jesus was most certainly the Most Important Arch Messenger Angel
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Daniel 10
    Jesus is not and was not an angel.


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