Colossians Chapter 2 Discussion Page 2

  • Chris - in Reply on Colossians 2
    Yes. Rom 11:12-14: "Now if the fall of them (Israel) be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh (Israel), and might save some of them."

    His primary ministry was to the Gentiles, but that didn't stop Paul for taking opportunities to minister to his own people, the Jews. Also read Acts chapter 13 for an example of his ministry to the Jews also.
  • Pauline doctrine on Colossians 2
    Is Paul the apostle to the gentiles?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Colossians 2:15
    Where do you live? If USA, go to Salvation Army or a goodwill store. Make sure it's an authorized King James Version or new King James Version.

    You can always call 700 Club and they will send you a Bible in your language.

  • Stanjett - in Reply on Colossians 2:15
    You can download the KJV bible online. .
  • Olalekan ayomide on Colossians 2:15
    I don't have a bible
  • Grace regarding 1 Peter 12 - in Reply on Colossians 2
    Hello Gar,

    I'm interested to know about which old documents you are referring. What reference or proof do you have that the word "elect" was not in the original Greek? I'm hoping this is true, but it could be too difficult for anyone to show this because of lost scrolls, fake documents accepted as authentic by some, and just too many centuries have passed

    Anyway, I've checked that the ancient Greek word eklektos was translated correctly as the adjective "elect" in the 1611 KJV. Others translated it as "chosen". Note that eklektos is an adjective, a descriptor, a word that is an attribute or characteristic. It is not a noun or a verb or even the past tense of the verbs to choose, to select & to elect as Calvinists have misinterpreted and misunderstood. Example sentence starting with an adj. : (Sam is) Amusing according to Kim's letters

    Eklektos must be translated as a characteristic or quality as it was intended to be descriptive. So, in English the adjectival meaning of 'Elect' is: worthy to be chosen, favourite, preferred, and or "selected for an office, but not yet inducted". Likewise, when "chosen" is used instead of 'elect' as an adjective, chosen means: preferred, to be selective from a number (of available). 'Preferred' would've been the better English translation to stop the arguments

    What's more, "foreknowledge" is "prognosis" in ancient Greek. So that sentence means 'We are preferred by God, according to His ability to see into the future, to be sanctified for obedience'. It's not the Calvinist 'The Chosen Ones according to His will'

    3 different bible versions have all used the same document for 1st Pete1:2

    21st Century KJV

    2 elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father through sanctification of the Spirit, unto...

    New Life Version

    You were chosen by God the Father long ago. He knew you were to become His children. You were set apart for holy living by...

    NIV Study Bible 1984

    who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, .
  • Geneva Haynes on Colossians 2
    The place of Goshen. What is God saying to me today.
  • Gar on Colossians 2
    Why does 1 Peter 1:2 in the KJV use the word "ELECT," and yet is not found in the original Greek?
  • Alexis - in Reply on Colossians 2
    thank u so much!
  • Bible Stories For Teens - in Reply on Colossians 2
    I just looked on YouTube, and go in there and type: Teen Bible Stories forgiveness

    I just watched one and they're good. :)

    The best Bible story of a young teen is the one about David, who would be King someday. Also Samuel.

    Allow me to caution that most videos on YouTube are NOT edifying (makes you feel happy inside). Be wise beloved son, of God.
  • Alexis - in Reply on Colossians 2
    tbh im 13 i was saved at 12 and i kinda dont get this and im tryna look for bible stories on forgiveness any help?
  • Amen -we must preach and teach the Gospel of repentance and remission of sins for it is this Gospel that shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations and then shall the END come. He that endures to the END, the same shall be saved. There is only "One Faith of JESUS"
  • Wendy Anthony - in Reply on Colossians 2
    Amen Brother Tucker!
  • Jim on Colossians 2
    We have too be strong in the Lord, believing every word from the mouth of God. Temptation come in many forms. Satan desire to sift us Christians as wheat. Unbelievable times are here, just as the prophets preached back then, tell who all would listen to repent and pray, and turn back from your wicked way. They didn't , so here we are faced with that same diliema. Choose God, he will never leave you nor forsake you. Let us all learn from the past. In reference to Colossians chapter 2
  • Etta - in Reply on Colossians 2:16
    I don't think so,

    The 2nd Chapter of Colossians is on atonement in general,but I believe Paul is dealing with the ultra religious, those who 'swallow a camel, but strain out a gnat. Matthew 23:24

    Ref: Further in Chapter 2:21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? 2:23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honor to the satisfying of the flesh.
  • the precept of this verse can be found at Ezekiel chapter 45 verse 16 and 17 paul was referring to atonement and how Christ body superceeds animal sacrifice shalom
  • George Tucker on Colossians 2
    The 7th day was blessed before Adam was created; only the races had been created (6th day). So it wasn't for the Jews but for mankind. On March 7, 321 Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun. Constantine chose Sunday to be the day for Christian worship as it already enjoyed special status in the Roman week. Named after the Pagan Sun God Invictus, Sunday had become the day when wages were paid to workers, leading it to be seen as a day of celebration and thanks. In corresponding the Christian Sabbath with an already established day of rest, Constantine ensured that his decree would be accepted swiftly and harmoniously.

    Council of Laodicea - 364 AD is where the catholic church made worshiping on the sabbath illegal and required it to be on the first, which was the day of Sun worship. Think GOD likes being worshiped on pagan holiday.
  • Sarah - in Reply on Colossians 2
    Amen thats the truth..
  • Maria on Colossians 2
    Here's 15 states that he made or stripped principalities and powers. What are the powers
  • Eric - in Reply on Colossians 2
    Do you know that there were other sabbath days apart from the seventh day Sabbath? There were foods and drinks that were taken in certain days? Leviticus 23. These were written in the Mosaic Law and Christ nailed them on His Cross. These were shadows of His ultimate sacrifice. But any in the 10 commandments is a show of God's character, LOVE, to God and to your neighbor. This Christ came to affirm
  • I AM THAT I AM: on Colossians 2
    And this I say lest any Man should beguile you with enticing words. As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, SO walk ye in him: For IN HIM dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which IS THE HEAD of ALL principality and POWER: Let no Man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an Holy day, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH DAYS:
  • Freedomborn on Colossians 2
    In my Ministry to those who had left Cults I found that they still could not accept The Godhead v9 or as we call Them today The Trinity both meaning 3inOne -1John5:7 They are One in Spirit but have different Roles, The Father is in Authority as confirmed in 1Corinthians15:24-28 Lets Pray for all those who have been deceived that their Spiritual eye's will be opened to God's Truth. Blessings Anne.
  • Brianna vs. 23 on Colossians 2
    Insightful! Some religions teach that you must suffer or hurt your body in order to be pleasing to God, this scripture helps us to reason. It is through an accurate knowledge of God's word that our body can be brought into subject. God's word touches our heart and motivates change. We can fast, mark,deny,ourselves but that may not be necessary. Allow God's word to motivate change, not pain.
  • BSP on Colossians 2
    Verse 8- we must be careful that we don’t chose human traditions over the truths found in the Bible.
  • A disciple on Colossians 2
    BSP; An interesting point is how the Word which was from the beginning ever had to be kept a secret. Understanding the history as recorded in the Scriptures shows that it was the rise of the heathen and Antichrist, which conspired to break the bands asunder and cast away the cords of God with men, that turned the common faith and all the hope of man into something to be concealed from view.
  • BSP on Colossians 2
    Verses 2,3~The sacred secret was to be revealed and Jesus is the focal point of the sacred secret.
  • Eutychus on Colossians 2

    vs3. "In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." Know of a certainty, this is true. But it comes at great cost..."For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow". I testify to the truth of this. The more of Jesus you have, the more of knowledge you gain, the more grief and sorrow you will live with. The only salvation left for you, is Jesus.
  • A disciple on Colossians 2
    "That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; in whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." What draws the heart of man to Christ is how Jesus knows EVERYTHING
  • A disciple on Colossians 2
    Jimmy (cont.); But the way we come to Jesus in the first place is holy and good in God's view! We seek forgiveness and reconciliation through the precious blood of Jesus, and God's great love and mercy for us. Is the blood of Christ not powerful enough to make reconciliation for us? Is the blood of Christ not powerful enough to purify the believing soul from every sin and repair all sin's damage?
  • A disciple on Colossians 2
    Jimmy; New wine must be put into new wine-skins, that both may be preserved. We are saved and sanctified for the purpose of being perfect like our heavenly Father is perfect; and for letting the light of our Christ-like New Nature and good works be seen by men, to our Father's glory. Everyone knows talk is cheap and we should better be sure our character and behavior match our preaching to others.

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