Bible Questions Page 9

  • Chris - in Reply on Tobit 1:4
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    Jesus could only be the Perfect Offering to pay for our sin & to turn away God's Anger against us. So, this Jesus Who is in Heaven now says, that He will come again one day to restore all things back to perfection, but for now He gives us the opportunity to come to Him in faith in what He has done for us. So, after creating all things new for those who love Jesus & God, is there anything that can be added to Scripture after this? Nothing can be added at all.

    I hope this helps you a little in your understanding & discussion with Muslim friends.
  • Chris - in Reply on Tobit 1:4
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    You may not be able to do Scriptural comparisons, since only the very learned who know both the Bible & Quran well are able to do, so all you can do is:

    a. tell them that we (Christians) agree that the Bible as given to us by God, is complete from beginning (with Creation) to the end (destruction of the Earth & the bringing in of the new heavens & Earth freed at last from sin's corruption). And God warns us in Revelation 22:18,19: "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." So what Jesus (by the Angel) has said, is that we are forbidden to add anything more to what God has revealed to us or else God will judge us.

    b. the Muslim will then say to you that this is false & why has Allah then given us the Quran? You cannot enter into debate about this as you & I can't give clear answers about Quranic writings, but we can tell them the reason why ONLY the biblical message is important: that is, we are all sinners (Muslims will agree to that, though their understanding about sin is slightly different to ours), & as sinners God has to judge us (because He is Holy & Just), we're found guilty as a result & sent to Hell forever. We earlier did tried to obey God & do our best, but all our good efforts were not acceptable to Him & we remained guilty. But since God loves us so much (John 3:16), He had to do something permanent: He gave of Himself, through Jesus, the "Word of God" & (a Soul) (Quran calls Him Kalimat'ullah, (Surah 4:171).

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  • Chris - in Reply on Tobit 1:4
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    Emmanuel, the books you mentioned form part of what we call 'The Apocrypha' & were not included in the Canon of Scripture. Canonizing of Scripture took place over the ages since post-Apostolic days, which essentially means that the Church fathers & others involved in Scriptural examination viewed that some published writings did not conform to the accepted doctrines or teachings in the other accepted books: because of their authorship, authenticity, or dubious references, raised 'red flags' as to their worth to be included in Scripture. I'm not saying that everything in the Apocrypha is wrong, but there are many differences there to cause concern, & so these books were left out (i.e. not canonized).

    That "Muslims say that our Bible is incomplete". I've worked with Muslims & studied Islam in my earlier ministry so am aware of this claim, amongst many others. This claim of theirs has to do with the Bible being current & valid only to a certain point in time. That is, only till the coming of Jesus (the Prophet) & with His Life & Ministry. They don't accept the letters written by the apostles of Christ & when they understand the Gospels, they think of the Gospel of Barnabas only, which is not accepted at all by Christians. So, if (to them), the Bible has ended with Jesus, then why shouldn't everyone then accept God's next prophet, Mohammed & his revelations from Allah. This is why they claim that our Bible is incomplete: because al-Quran is given by Allah to bring His latest message to all. So what do they do when someone like Baha'ullah comes on the scene after Mohammed? They of course, reject him, because it won't fit into their belief that Mohammed is God's last prophet. You & I can't use any of this as an argument with Muslims, as they will just reject your words. In fact, it is not advisable to even find fault with their Book, as this will cause them anger & to not listen to you at all.

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  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Ruth 1:22
    Jesse, I couldn't agree more. As you say, "everything has been designed by Him, and that He sustains everything, that His Spirit carries out His will, and everything is for His purposes. So I think what Paul was saying is that all things were created for His (Christ's) purposes."

    That is exactly what I am getting at. Now, the question is, What is His purpose for creation? Or with creation? More simply stated, what did God create everything for?
  • Debra on Matthew 24:38
    Is snakes the most evil of all animals?
  • Debra on Matthew 24:38
    Is snakes the railway of all animals?
  • Marie on Matthew 24:38
    Is angels pretty or ugly
  • Jesse - in Reply on Ruth 1:22

    Okay, here are my thoughts on what Paul may have meant by the words "unto" and "for" Him. Again, these are just my thoughts.

    First of all, I see the comparison to Romans 11:36, so I thought I would take that and maybe share something you might be looking for, unless you already know the answer. In Romans 11:36, the words "of Him" is literally "out of Him" as a source. For out of Him, and through Him, He is the sustainer of all things. Everything has come from Him. He is the source of all things.

    When I go to Hebrews Chapter 1, it tells me that all things, the epics of history and time are being carried along by the word of God. The word of God is holding all things together, carrying history along, according as God designed it. Romans 11:36 also says, and to Him, which is literally the word EIS with the accusative in the Greek. To Him! He is the significance in everything. Everything is for Him.

    And I just sit back and wonder what He is doing with my life because there are things I just don't understand? But when I realize that He has a purpose and will for my life, and He has set me apart for his purposes, even if I don't understand what it is, I am content because I know He is in control. I have to live by faith, and even He is the source of that faith. I don't have to understand. All I know is that everything has been designed by Him, and that He sustains everything, that His Spirit carries out His will, and everything is for His purposes. I might not understand most of all that God does in my life until I go to be with Him, but that's fine with me.

    So I think what Paul was saying is that all things were created for His (Christ's) purposes. Maybe that's still not what you are looking for, I don't know. You have a great evening!
  • Chris - in Reply on Ruth 1:22
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    Carlos, to your discussion beginning with, "if when you reference Romans 5:13-14".

    Since I no longer have that particular thread before me (because of the locked discussion), I will respond just on your comments. With the Romans reference, I believe I said that that all (from Adam onwards) have suffered death (both physical & spiritual) as a result of sin, "even to those who had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression". What was the similarity to Adam's transgression? Those, like Adam, that didn't have the Law given to them, or was in their knowledge, that would have given judgement to their sin. Who are these people? Adam, primitive tribes, & to some extent, Gentiles, who do perform some of the laws because of governments who embrace those principals. Then I quoted, Romans 2:14,15, to show that to those who didn't have God's Laws/Standards, "did by nature the things contained in God's Law", & upon that basis they would be judged. So, I think I'm saying what you are, except in a different way.

    When I refer to, & understand, the Law in this instance, I refer to it as those Laws of God as declared & given through Moses. If God told Adam not to eat the fruit, then it is a commandment, as a parent so commands his child. Adam was not bound under the Law (& it wasn't imputed to him), as it wasn't given to him to obey. Yet, he suffered, because sin was imputed because of disobedience, regardless whether the Law was given or not. Then why the need for the Mosaic Law? It was God's declared Standard for His people, distinguishing them (as also with circumcision), from any other people in the world. The others were a law unto themselves, doing by nature the things that are contained in the Law, & were/are so judged by the performance of those un-given Laws.

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  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Ruth 1:22
    Jesse, you have dissected Colossians 1:16 indisputably well. However, what I am focused on is the "Unto Him", the "For Him" statement in the verse.

    What could Paul have meant by stating that all things were created "Unto" Him?

    Romans 11:36 says essentially the same thing.
    Please why were these books (judit, tobit, wisdom of solomon etc.) removed from the bible? (am really blessed in studying them)

    muslims do go against us by saying our bible is no more complete (pls i need urgent clear answer)
  • Jesse on Romans 13

    I was unable to respond, as the thread was locked for additional comment. So I am responding here.

    The parable of the sower describes four different heart conditions. The condition you bring up is the person represented by the stony ground. They get excited about the things the Lord. They began to blossom with their emotion right away. You begin to see those signs above ground, and it appears to be instant growth. So this person gets excited, but then when it's time to start maturing in the Lord, which comes through trials and tribulations, that person is immediately offended.

    They don't have that happy feeling anymore, they are not excited anymore. Now it is time for growth. Now it is time to settle down with the Lord, and they get offended and they leave. That person was never saved. This is not a person that was once saved, and then walked away and lost their salvation. They were never saved, period.

    In the Parable of the Sower, there's only one person out of these four that are saved. Only one person bears the fruit of salvation, and that's our number four man. None of the other three bear fruit, meaning none of the other three represent salvation.

    It seems as though you are saying that belief in a pre-tribulation rapture would cause someone to be persecuted, or perhaps cause them to forfeit their salvation? Am I just misunderstanding you? Jesus said we can expect persecution for His name's sake. It should be no surprise to us if we are persecuted for identifying with Christ. Thanks for caring about me. I care about you also. But don't be too concerned for me because I believe in Pre-trib. That will not separate me from Christ. I thank you for the YouTube invite, but something deep inside my spirit tells me I need to be cautious, so I will respectfully decline.
  • Olanrewaju on Matthew 24:38
    Where did Cain got his wife, since we were told according to the Bible, Adam and Eve were the first human being created by God?
  • Jesse - in Reply on Hebrews 10
    (Part 2)

    I hope you understand what this verse is saying. Jesus Christ was the final sacrifice for sin. There is no more sacrifice for sin. Those Hebrew people who were being enlightened to the truth had to choose between accepting Christ's final sacrifice for sin, or going turning away and going back to their own sacrificing.

    Please know this. If you have received Christ (Been born of His Spirit), He lives inside of you. He promised to never leave you, nor forsake you. You are eternally secure in Christ if you have been born of His Spirit. Also understand, that even though you're saved, you will sin. As long as you live in a body of flesh, you will sin. However, you will be unable to live a lifestyle of sin because Christ's Spirit in you will not allow you to do so. There will be conviction. You will commit single acts of sin, but it is impossible for a saved person to live a lifestyle of sin, their former lifestyle before receiving Christ.

    Please do not be troubled in heart. If you have Christ, you'll always have Christ. He's not leaving you!
  • Mishael on Ruth 1:22
    I did a study just on the word Wisdom and was speechless over how much information is in the Bible. That will blow your mind.
  • Dot - in Reply on Hebrews 10
    What immediately came to my mind is

    1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. (Also continue on thru 2:2) The fear you feel is NOT from God, for God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and love and a sound mind. 11 Timothy 1:7 But satan, the liar who comes to kill, steal & destroy has gripped you. Cast off his lies IN JESUS NAME!!!!! I pray this helps to bring His peace into your soul. Get into the Word & see what God says, then you'll know the truth, & satan's lies will be more obvious to you.
  • Mishael On I John 19 - in Reply on Hebrews 10
    Stay a while in 1 John and his other books.

    In 1 John 2:1 it says that if you sin and Satan drags you up before the Throne of God, you have an ADVOCATE (sitting at Gods right arm). Jesus, your Advocate and attorney. He checks the Lambs Book of Life, sees your name written in it, and your case is dismissed for lack of evidence. Your sins have been blotted out with His blood.

    It doesn't mean we can run amok and sin all over the place. We are to put ourselves in the Holy Spirits leadership, teaching; conviction when we do sin.

    Fear hath torments. That's a demon with many little demons. It's their job to shake your faith in Jesus. The spirit of death causes some people to take their lives. They know they have no rights to do any of that to a Jesus trusting Christian.

    In 1 John 1:9 you will learn to run to the Cross if you do sin and confess; be forgiven; renewed. I go there a lot.

    We are washed clean by constantly renewing our minds with the Word of God. Your Bible. If we don't furnish our "homes" with Bible teaching; prayer: demons come back around to see if you have an opening for them. You can make them leave!

    Say what you've learned: IT IS WRITTEN... and speak your scripture that you've planted in your heart.

    You'll get so strong that you'll be able to help other people get freed as well.

    Now go read Romans 8:1-2. Read all of Romans 8. Read Book of John 8:32

    You did good coming here :)
  • Adam - in Reply on Isaiah 66
    Hello, why do you assume Paul is illiterate? The apparent contradiction of the word 'voice' of the these 2 verses of Acts doesn't mean automatically mean Paul is lying. The men heard a sound but didn't understand the words of the voice. 22:9 says "heard not the voice of him that spake to me" means the words were not understood. The original Greek word appears to be a flexible one that is sometimes translated to 'sound', like in John 3:8.
  • Rich on Hebrews 10
    Hebrews 10 vs 26-27 say if we sin willfully, does that mean if we sin on purpose deliberately with Full knowledge of what we are doing, we can never turn to repentance? Is the rest of our lives spent with foreboding and fear knowing hell is our destination? Because I cant seem to find Jesus anymore from the very second I wake up until I finally go to sleep I'm in fear , I have absolutely no joy in my life, I do my best to lead others to Christ but inside I feel like I've made an eternal mistake, and I dont want anyone else to make it
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Isaiah 66
    If I can jump in and maybe shed some light on this. In Galatians 1:12, Paul says:

    "I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ."

    When John wrote the Revelation, He received it from Christ Himself. But if there is a question as to whether Paul met the qualifications to be an Apostle proper, we are told Paul went to Jerusalem, met with the Apostles and they, themselves, approved him as an Apostle to the Gentiles. Peter also refers to what Paul writes as "Scripture" 2 Peter 3:16.

    Acts 9:5-7, "Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked. "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied. "Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do." The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone."

    This event is also recounted in Acts 22. So what are we to believe? Did Paul see Jesus? Well, He says he did. Others can attest to the fact that what Paul said on the Road to Damascus was True. Ananias was also a witness. And the Apostles confirmed it and appointed him Apostle to the Gentiles, as Christ told him. Furthermore, Pauls life, work, letters, sacrifice all testify to the fact that he did see Jesus and was taught by Him. In fact, the Bible says he was "told" by God and Jesus what to say.

    If we doubt everything the Bible says, we have nowhere to go. If we doubt what Paul said, we have to doubt the entire New Testament.
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO on Matthew 24:38
    Mishael, in response to 2 of your posts, Angels are created beings. We see that in Colossians 1:16. They were created to serve. They are not human and Jesus Himself said they don't procreate. He further added that there is no marriage in Heaven. Our existence there will be completely different than what it is now. Some people are of the opinion they will continue to lead a Human life, marrying, having children, going to work from 8-5. But that is fiction. We will be completely transformed. So much so, that the closest Disciples of Jesus didn't even recognize Him when He appeared to them after the Resurrection. How different was He? He sat with them. He talked to them. He ate with them. And they had no clue.

    Paul tells us that our mortal bodies will put on immortality when Christ returns and calls us to be with Him for all eternity. Our bodies will be incorruptible. Our minds will be incorruptible. Out hearts will be incorruptible.

    We have been taught to believe that all Creation is about us; about our welfare, our joy, our delight in God, our enjoyment, our families. But is that was what our earthly creation was for? Where we created for us or for Christ? Where the Angels created for themselves or to serve God?

    It is also a fiction that Angels can assume all the biological functions of Humans and procreate with them. They can't.
    Joshua on Colossians 1:15 brought up an interesting question. Who is Jesus? Is He God Devine or a created being God promoted to a higher position? There is a related Central theme in Scripture we often don't pay a lot of attention to. Even Preachers seem to skip over it when referencing it. But if you don't fully understand it, the rest of Scripture becomes difficult.

    I am asking the following question for all who would like to respond, on Colossians 1:16,

    "For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and FOR Him."

    I have discussed this a little with others, but I would like to look at it on its own. From:



    Q: What does the word FOR mean? What does it mean that all things were created FOR Him?
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Colossians 1
    My 3rd Response, Joshua. In Isaiah 53 Jesus is called, "The Eternal Father, The Mighty God." Again, JW focus on "Mighty" as not equal to Almighty, making Jesus inferior. They won't deal with "Eternal Father". They don't know what to do with it. But Jesus is the Eternal Father, John 14:7-9:

    "If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us." Jesus replied, "Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?"

    Jesus is Human and Devine. Not angelic.
  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 66
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    And a side note: I don't understand what your 'Paul's theology' reference is. Paul (then Saul), was devout Pharisee, a Jew of the Jews, believing he obeyed every Law. He hated Jesus & His followers & put many to death. He received a revelation from Heaven that would shake his being to the core. (Acts 9:3-7). What was that revelation? That this Jesus Whom he persecuted (i.e. against his followers) was alive from the dead & speaking to him from Heaven. So Paul's letters to the Churches were not from his own private thoughts & interpretations; He was a strict Pharisee would couldn't divert from the Law - not until He met the risen Christ, the fulfilment of that Law.
  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 66
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    b. Matthew 5:17-19. Another clear Scripture showing that the Law was good but people, as sinners, could never keep it. So Jesus said that He came to fulfil the Law, not to destroy it. What do you make of that statement? Remembering that Jesus' coming was still in the period of the Old Covenant (i.e. of Law), so He could speak of the worth of the Law (v 19), but also to say (v 20), that "on top of it, your righteousness must exceed that of the Pharisees (who were known to be sticklers for the Law plus adding many of their own)". Was this possible? Jesus knew that man could never gain acceptance to Heaven based on the obedience of the Law; so He said that He came to fulfil the Law. So how did He fulfil the Law? I'll let you give me your answer.

    c. I will leave off quoting the Pauline epistles, as you have turned your ear against them & the other epistles. But you ask: "But is it really true that the death of Jesus on the cross is the only way of salvation?" Have a look at John 14:6; 10:11-18; Matthew 20:28; Mark 10:45; John 6:33. All these passages speak of Jesus laying down His Life. But I hear you say that they don't have the words "way of salvation". Then it would show that you do not really want to understand Jesus' prime purpose of coming; all these verses show that He came to die so that man might have a new life in Heaven & not go to Hell.

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  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 66
    Page 1.

    Yasser, your comments are interesting to the point that it has me guessing as to your religious position. If you are part of the other two monotheistic faiths, I can understand your questions. But if you are of a Christian background, then please say so, as you seem to have knowledge of the Scriptures, but you appear to contradict everything that God had planned & set in motion from beginning of time to the coming of His Christ.

    However, I will answer your last comment to me, but not quoting from the Epistles.

    a. Mark 10:17-19. The man obviously obeyed all the Ten Commandments & Jesus was pleased about that. However, Jesus knew that the man actually trusted in his wealth more than God (v 24). So what is Jesus telling him here? The bottom line was that he actually broke the first Commandment, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". This man probably didn't have idols in his house, but his love & trust in his wealth proved otherwise. One reason for giving the Law to Israel was to show them that they could never obey it fully. This is a reason why the Jewish leaders hated Jesus so much: He exposed their sin (i.e. outwardly they showed obedience & piety, but inwardly they were wicked - they could fool the people, but couldn't fool God with their hypocrisy).

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  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Colossians 1
    Following on my 1st response, Joshua. The JW also point out that Christ is a "a Son", John 3:16, 1 John 4:10. They see Him as a created being Hebrews 2:17. But they miss the point. Philippians 2:9 says Jesus was exalted, elevated to a higher position, promoted. But do these all miss the meaning of what is said? Is there a difference between Jesus the Son of Man, and Christ the Eternal Preexisting God, Creator of all things, Colossians 1:16.

    It is that distinction that many fail to see. The Coptic Manuscript should not be taken on its own. It might be the oldest, but that doesn't mean it is correct. Taken in context is is clear the import is The Word IS God, 2 Peter 1:3. He is Devine.
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Colossians 1
    This is a good discussion topic, Joshua. The Jehova's Witnesses use the oldest translation, which is from a piece of a Coptic Manuscript that says in John 1 that "the Word is A God". They also believe the reference in Colossians 1:15 that Christ is "the firstborn of all creation", means Christ was created by God, just like the Angels.

    There are statements in the Bible that cast doubt on the Deity of Christ as existing always as God. That is why a study of Systematic Theology is so important for our understanding of Scripture. Peter said that what Paul says is Scripture. But some people misunderstand it, 2 Peter 3:16. Proverbs 8 says, "He was the first of creation". So which is it?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 22
    Does your last name begin with Z ?
  • Yasser Davin - in Reply on Isaiah 66
    Bob Hilt, Peter is illiterate so how could he write a book?.....The most probable cause that Peter had a book is that Paul wrote those books to nullify his claim and serve as a badge of his apostleship.....Now, in Acts 22:9 Paul claims that when he spoke to Jesus, those traveling with him "saw the light," but "they heard not the voice." While in Acts 9:7 those who were with Paul are claimed to have "stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man."....Can you see his lies now?...

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