Bible Questions Page 44

  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    2 Corinthians 6:14-18 - Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

    2 Timothy 3:5 - Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    Deuteronomy 7:3-4 - Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

    2 Thessalonians 3:6 - Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

    Ephesians 5:11 - And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

    3 John 1:11 - Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

    1 Corinthians 7:1-40 - Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

    Don't think older people in the Lord do not understand the rush of young love.

    Myself... I wish someone had told me it's not going to work out so long as the other is unsaved. Take her to church with you. You Pray for her to receive Jesus.

    God created sex. He also performed the first marriage. You are not Adam and Eve.

    You may have met the wrong woman. And the right one is praying for God to bring you to her.

    You may hate me for this: but Satan can tempt us with the wrong choice. It takes huge faith to trust in God in these matters.

    You should be praying for God to prepare her to receive salvation. Be meek and accept Gods leading and confirmation.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Isaiah 13:10
    Greg,

    No problem with the miscommunication. As I stated, when I first read where you said Kalos = child, I knew you had to accidentally put that there. I'm sure you already knew Kalos was not the word for child, even though a child can be Kalos (Good), sometimes!

    I agree with the King James that Judas "repented himself" but it was not the same repentance required for salvation. The word repent as was used for Judas was not the same word for repent in places where the bible says "Repent and be baptized." This word repent (Metanoeo) is true repentance and is the word that's used every time it is associated with salvation. So Judas repenting himself meant that he was only sorry for his actions.

    We don't get that from our English bibles. I think that's where we run into problems sometimes with our English texts. We see a word in English and we automatically attach our English understanding to not knowing the Greek uses a word that means something different than what we understand in English.

    I agree fully with the persecution issue. Jesus said we can expect that. But just like Paul, we should count it all joy when we are being persecuted. That's sounds odd, but the way I see it, they are not persecuting me, they are persecuting Christ who lives in me. That's how I know I can count it as joy. And that's why Jesus said, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?" Saul was persecuting Christians but Jesus said why are you persecuting me?

    And I understand the being zealous part. It never worked too well for me either. I've come to a point in my walk with the Lord where I just sit back and go along for the ride and whatever path He puts me on. I love sailboats (Pictures, models, you name it). They remind me of a time when I was "on fire" as they say, and my motor was running non-stop. But I've since turned off the motor, hoisted up the sail, and let the wind (God's Spirit) take me wherever He might take me.

    Anyways,

    I've also enjoyed talking with you. God Bless!!!
  • DOUBLE MINDEDNESS - in Reply on Isaiah 13:10
    Minded: means that is what you have purposed in your mind. Double minded means you have a conflict in your mind.

    Examples>

    James 1:8

    A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

    James 4:8

    Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

    Romans 8:6

    For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    Philippians 3:15

    Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

    2 Corinthians 1:15

    And in this confidence I was minded to come unto you before, that ye might have a second benefit;

    Titus 2:6

    Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.

    Matthew 1:19

    Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.

    Galatians 5:10

    I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.

    2 Corinthians 1:17

    When I therefore was thus minded, did I use lightness? or the things that I purpose, do I purpose accordingly.

    It's about getting the mind of Christ before we do or say anything.

    Be aware of who is speaking in your mind: the Holy Spirit? You? The flesh? Satan?

    The spirit of this world?

    Mishael
  • Dennis A Coley on Matthew 24:9
    Was there a door in jerusalem called the needle eye in st Luke 18 verse 8
  • Enoch Mani on 2 Thessalonians 2
    Paul clearly out-lined the chronology of events in that single verse! "Let no man deceive you" of what? Ans: WHEN Jesus will come again. A falling away by the Church first, second the "man of sin" Antichrist rules, then 3rd Christ returns! 2 Thess. Chapt. 1: 7-10 is very plain... THERE IS NO LEFT BEHIND...The righteous translated and go with Jesus! The wicked dead sleep on till the second resurrection after the millennium, Revelation 20:5,7. The wicked living "shall be slain" by Christ's glory! No one lives on earth after the second coming...Secret pretrib. Rapture? Not biblical....A doctrine of Satan..
  • Sheila Hedgepeth on Romans 8:21
    in ROMAN 8:30 what does predestine mean this chapter? in my King James Study Bible is says its meaning is not the same as what we think of predestined. help.
  • Joan Halkett on Isaiah 13:10
    What does it mean to be "double minded"?
  • Carleton - in Reply on Ephesians 5:26
    Hello Walter, I can remember being baptized (the mode was immersion) because I accepted Christ by faith. Folks clapped when my decision was made. Like you seem to be saying, I lacked power over changing my life from constant sins, I studied the Word and gained knowledge but not peace and not power. I could feel the presence of the Holy Spirit only it was outside of me instead of inside me. Life went on several years like this until I finally reached a point that I felt burdened with sin in such weight that I began crying out in my heart to Jesus for real. I was led to believers whom had power over willful sin. I could see their peace and I wanted it. I learned about repentance at any cost to me and again by faith (happened to be in the back of a box truck at a dock in the middle of the night) I kneeled down and cried my heart out to the Lord. In seconds I had the peace of the Holy Spirit comforting my soul on my inside. This comforter reproves me as I begin to error to this day. Do I want to lose my peace, do I want to return to such a sad position I once was found? The answer is no. Clearly the evil one would like me to stray and many traps have been set, but the Lord guides by His Holy Spirit. My Baptism by water (the mode was pouring) joined me to fellow believers that help by love to be witnesses of Truth that is in them. If I stray, if Satan takes me on a an unplanned trip (say in thoughts, or offense) the Life of the other witnesses speaks to me of my need to repent.

    Carleton
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Naya,

    Yes, I did read the scriptures you sent. However, those scriptures do not change my view to match with yours. Here's where we differ:

    I do not agree that "no one is in a conscious state after death." The story of the rich man and Lazarus would show me that both were in a conscious state after death.

    I do not agree that when we die (Physical death) "our body and soul dies and we're asleep until the appointed time." I believe this is a teaching held by the Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe the physical body (Flesh) will die and be in the grave, and one day we will receive our glorified bodies. But I believe the soul lives on forever. The soul of man will never die, or cease to exist. I don't believe in "Soul Sleep" either.

    I don't agree that "Jesus did not finish his ministry." Jesus Himself said, "It is finished right before He died on the cross." If His ministry and work were not complete, what would be our hope for salvation? I do believe Jesus finished His ministry here on earth. I do not believe that any human power could have stopped Him from finishing what He came for. To say that they killed Him halfway through His ministry doesn't make sense to me.

    No human power could have taken Him before He completed His work. There was a mob of about 1,000 men who came to take Him after Judas pointed Him out, but even that many men with clubs and swords could not have taken Him if His time to be taken was not then and there. Jesus blew that crowd of men backward on their behinds twice just by the power of His voice. You would have thought that by that time, they would have turned and ran. They couldn't have taken Him no matter how many men came to do it. Jesus surrendered Himself freely. If He was not finished with His ministry, He would not have freely surrendered Himself at that time.

    Thanks again for the conversation.
  • Albert on 2 Kings 5
    There is a valuable lesson to be learned from 2 Kings Chapter 5. Naaman, a might warrior, was full of pride. The little maid, possibly a young girl in her teens, was a very humble servant was willing to share her faith--even with the people who were oppressing her. Her testimony about the God of Israel brought healing and wholeness to the captain of the Syrians; Naaman, on the other hand, almost missed his blessing because the prophet told him to do something he did not want to do. He went away angry, upset that the man of God would dare tell him to dip himself in the dirty Jordan. How many times have we missed our blessing because God told us to do something we did not want to do? Humility is a key ingredient in approaching the God of the universe. Naaman discovered that when he obeyed the instructions of the prophet that God healed him. It is a very powerful lesson. Obedience and humility are the keys to our miracles.
  • Chukuemeka Mitchelle Ifunanya on Psalms 3
    What does God Do everyday.
  • Jeremy Byrd on Revelation 22:4
    Revelation 22:4 KJV says in their foreheads. What is the significance of "in" their foreheads instead of "on" their foreheads in other translations?

    4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
  • Tarry One Hour in the Prayer Room on John 6:38
    Matthew 26:38

    Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

    Mark 14:34

    And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.

    Luke 24:29

    But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

    Mishael
  • Walter Rowell - in Reply on Ephesians 5:26
    I have been baptized twice, went under a sinner came up a sinner both times. (The sinner on the cross was saved by the spoken word of Jesus.) I still sin. If I were baptized again I dont think I would stop. I find no good thing in me except the word (the truth). We read that we must believe God exist (the devil believes and trembles) but also believe He is the rewarder of thoes that seek Him. I seek Him in the Word, The Word convicts, I repent," The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, A broken and a contrite heart- These, O God, You will not despise." I do not want to spend eturnity with out salvation. I would be like the ethiopian, just let me find a preacher and some water. I am not being argementive, truly seeking answers, the Truth! I read "Thy Word Is Truth" and "you shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free" I take that free from sin. Yet I find no good in me. (just sayin) Is there no hope for me?

    Do I need a foot wahsing every day? I go out in the world every day I sin, I come to Jesus and pledge forgivenes.

    thank you for your wittness still surching. You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    There is so much you can be doing :D

    Jesus will surely take notice of your obedience and love for His people:

    Bless yourself and find joy in the process.

    Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

    For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

    Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

    *****

    Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

    When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

    Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

    And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    You're like me. So many Relatives and family That have gone to heaven. I don't know if you're in an apartment or house; but there is someone close by who would love a ray of sunshine in their life. I was going by nursing homes to pray with people who are shut in and have no family. I don't know if nursing homes are closed there?

    It helped me to just sit and listen to their stories or to just read some happy Psalms to them.

    Before my Dad died, I went every day to take him food I had cooked; and I fed him his dinner.

    Consider befriending some neighbor that you know is shut in pretty much. They love cookies that we make :D. They're lonely too. I'd start looking forward to it.

    Actually you are doing what Jesus asks of us: to visit the sick, the prisoners of their lonely homes, cookies with a note that says

    "Come and taste the goodness of the Lord".



    Don't be afraid to follow Jesus.
  • Naya - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Jesse, well, on Rome you will have to research history, deep into history and encyclopedias and match it with Bible history. You're sure to find what I have said is true if you do. A lot has to do with the Ten horns and what they represent dating back to the defeat of the Herulians, Vandels, Ostrogoths, Justinian and even Napolion, and so forth. It's Revelation 13 stuff you have to use world history with to piece it together. I would be writing and replying until the coming of the Lord if I went further into it. But I guarantee it's Rome. So I say to you just keep studying everything. Pray for more understanding, etc.

    You said it's too hard to keep the 10 Commandments??? Those are the very commandments mentioned throughout the bible that will assure us eternal life if we "strive" to keep them. You see I say "strive" because we're human. We cannot give up and say they're too hard to keep. What's so hard about not stealing, lying, committing adultery, coveting, keeping the Sabbath day holy, not worshipping idols and other gods, etc.? The first 4 commandments show us how to love God, the last 6 commandments show us how to love our neighbor (the way God instructed us to love our neighbor). So the 10 commandments is the law of love. As long as we're trying to keep them, we are showing love to God and our neighbors spiritually and physically.



    Now, there are other ways outside of that...but those are our basics. I think the only one most Christians have a problem with is the 4th Commandment. But I'm not trying to go down that rabbit hole. I gotta work out my own salvation with fear and trembling.

    The goal is to do what's required to make the First resurrection.

    And I forgot, yes, I agree the second resurrection is for the Lake of Fire; however, they still must be judged at the Great white throne judgment.(Scary) I plan on and hope I'm a spirit being doing the judging by then.
  • Naya - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Jesse, I realize the spirit goes back to God who created us. Keeping in mind our "spirit" in us is "the breath of life" that keeps us alive. We are the souls, and we have fleshly bodies. The breath of life is the spirit God breathes into our nostrils. However, the scriptures I posted were to show that no one is in a conscious state after death.

    So it's like no individual person with a spiritual body is up in heaven right now.

    When God breathed into Adam's nostrils, Adam became a "living soul"...without the breath of life he was a "dead soul." So we die, our body and soul dies and we're asleep until the appointed time.

    I did not get the impression that you were implying that the body was in heaven at all. I was just making sure you understood that Paul himself, even as a spirit, conscious and alive, is not in heaven right now. Especially since everyone will get their spiritual bodies at the Resurrections. The soul dies, the body goes back to the dust, and the spirit/breath of life goes back to God. No consciousness until the Return. I think we're clear now.

    Correct, Jesus did not finish his ministry because he was killed in the midst of the week.(a Wednesday) on the Passover which was in the midst of the week that year. He was in the grave 3 days and 3 nights which had him rising at the end of the Sabbath, just before it dawned towards Sunday. He was out of the grave before Sunday.

    When he returns, he will teach Israel in the wilderness 3 1/2 yrs and finish his ministry. This will be mortals (Israel). I explained Jesus came to testify of what was written in the Old Testament. Did you happen to read over the scriptures I replied with?

    I say "Israel" as opposed to Jews because Jews in the biblical term really meant someone was from the tribe of Juda. Israel encompasses all 12 tribes. But I guess you're saying Jews to mean all of the children of Israel?
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Judy,

    When you say you are not hearing God, what exactly do you mean? I would also like to help you but I'm unsure what you're asking?
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Naya,

    As soon I sent a reply I get a message saying you replied. I should have waited just another 5 minutes. I just read over your last post and it is interesting. I need to dig a little deeper I suppose. Right now I can't commit to believing without a doubt that the antichrist will come from Rome. I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm just not completely sure. It could very well be a Pope but I don't know that.

    You mention the basics as keeping the 10 Commandments and statutes. By statutes, are you referring to the Mishna? I gave up trying to keep the 10 Commandments. I found out early on that the harder I tried to keep them, the more I failed. I failed because I was trying to keep them the best way I knew how. But I couldn't do it. The reason I was failing was that I was trying to do these things in my own human effort. I don't think God thinks too much of anything I do in the human.

    I'll share this with you about the phrase "faith in Christ." There are places in my bible where I scratch through the word "in" and replace it with the word "of." Some might say that I'm adding to or taking away, but not so. Various places in scripture say faith in Christ, but the original text says faith of Christ.

    It's His faith. I come to know that there are two types of faith, human faith, and spiritual faith that the bible speaks of. We cannot produce spiritual faith. Spiritual faith is a fruit of God's Spirit. Without God's Spirit living in us, we could not have the type of faith the Bible speaks of. So I like to look at it as being the faith of Christ, not faith in Christ if that makes sense?

    As for "having a foot in the door," my foot in the door started the moment I began being receptive to God's Spirit drawing me to Christ. I had my foot in the door for a while until deciding to give my life to Christ. My foot's no longer in the door.

    As for writing novels, no worries there. I enjoy the conversation when it is respectful, even if we disagree. God Bless!
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Naya,

    Thank you for your clarification. Much of what you say here I am in agreement with. I know that no flesh can enter into heaven. And I also know that upon death, the physical body (flesh) will remain in the grave until the resurrection. With Christ as my Saviour, I will be part of the first resurrection. I believe those who are part of the second resurrection will be cast into the lake of fire. I do not believe that the flesh goes to be with the Lord. I do believe that upon death that our spirit leaves our body and will be present with the Lord. So if I gave the impression that I believed that both flesh and spirit ascend up to heaven upon death, I assure you that was not my intent. To be honest, I've never told anyone that my whole body, flesh and spirit will be in heaven because I know that's not true.

    Paul said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, so I take absent from the body to mean just that. It means that upon physical death, my spirit will depart my body (absent from it) and I will be present with the Lord. I hope we're in agreement with that.

    Also, I do understand that the 70th week is referring to a 7-year period. 69 weeks have passed. We are currently living in the times of the Gentiles. My understanding is that the 70th week is still yet to come.

    You mention natural born Israel in a place of safety during the Great Tribulation. I agree. These will be Jews. They will be protected during the last 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation known as the Great Tribulation. We know of at least 144,000 Jews who God will protect.

    I guess I just have a couple question from this so far. Are you saying that Jesus died on a Wednesday? And are you saying that Jesus did not finish His ministry while He was here?

    I look forward to the rest of your reply on the man from Rome that you say you will be sending soon. Until then, thanks for sharing your understanding with me.
  • Carleton on Isaiah 13:10
    "Oh, for a Closer Walk with God" William Cowper, 1731-1800

    Oh, for a closer walk with God, A calm and heavenly frame!

    A light to shine upon the road That leads me to the Lamb.

    Where is the blessedness I knew When first I saw the Lord?

    Where is the soul refreshing view Of Jesus and His Word?

    The dearest idol I have known, Whatever that idol be,

    Help me that idol to dethrone And worship only Thee.

    So shall my walk be close with God, Calm and serene my frame;

    So purer light shall mark the road That leads me to the Lamb.

    :)
  • Banned again - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Revelation Chapter 6 (REMEMBER THIS IS HEAVEN AND GOD'S THRONE)

    7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

    8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

    9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: ...I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:....not their resurrected bodies, just the souls

    10 And they (the souls under the altar) cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

    And they (the souls under the altar) cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? (they await their resurrected bodies and think about how a pre trib rapture would fit into this scenario) Hint: it can not.
  • Naya - in Reply on Revelation 21
    How do I know a man from Rome will sit in the temple? The roman empire has to fall and rise 10 times. Today we are in the 10th time and they're preparing to rise again. The roman head is now called the EU.

    This is all Revelation 13:1-7 prophecy and Daniel 7 and 8 prophecies. It's a lot to go into and can be confusing. But during the tribulation there has to be a religious ruler and a political ruler.

    Sorry we've written novels on here. But it was good talking with you about the Word. Yes, we differ on some things. But hopefully nothing that will get anyone cut off. The basics are keeping The Lord's 10 Commandments and statutes, having faith in Jesus Christ and that should get a person's foot in the door. Working out our own salvation with fear and trembling. Strive to make it in the first resurrection on such the second death has no power. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Without a shadow of a doubt, according to scriptures, no man (human) who has ever lived is in heaven right now except Jesus Christ himself.

    And the Lord isn't going to return until immediately the Great Tribulation.

    The only place of safety during the Great Tribulation for 3 1/2 years will be in the Wilderness...which the Lord will make sure his people get there safely just like he did in the days of old with the Children of Israel.

    I enjoyed the dialogue.
  • Naya - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Jesse, finishing where the dead goes and how Paul nor John nor any man who has ever lived could be in heaven presently.

    Job 14:1-2;10-13 Man dies and wastes away. Man dies and will not wake up until the heavens are no more. (We still have heavens so the dead are still dead)

    In Job 14:14 Job knew he had to wait until his appointed time to be resurrected.

    I Thessalonians 4:13-17 Those who are living will be changed...those in the grave will be raised at the coming of the Lord, which is the First Resurrection.

    Psalms 146:1-4 When we die, in that very day every though perishes. So how could Paul, who died, still be alive in heaven with thoughts?

    St. John 5:25; 28-29 All the dead will hear the voice of the Lord, some to everlasting life and some to eternal damnation.

    Daniel 12:1-2; 8-9; 13 This is referring to the Great Tribulation. Many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt. (Daniel was told this prophecy wasn't for him but it was for the people of the End times. The Lord sealed the words from Daniel.

    St. John 6:35; 38-40; 44; 54;63 The Lord will raise people up on the Last Day.

    A lot of people still believe the dead is in heaven or hell right now, but the truth according to many scriptures is every man, good or bad is still in the grave until the Lord's First and Second resurrection. If humans were in heaven right now, what need would there be for a resurrection? The only one who's not dead is Enoch...who was translated but not dead.

    I'm certain you know these scriptures. But I hope that you will go over them again and maybe see something you hadn't noticed before since I've pointed out some things.

    Paul died in Christ so he will be one of the dead in Christ who will be raised at the Lord's 2nd coming.

    How do I know for sure a man from Rome will sit in the temple? (I'll finish in the the last thread.)
  • Jacqueline Lars on Jude 1:1
    Was Simon the brother of Jesus Christ that helped him carry the cross to his own crucifixion
  • Ann on John 6:38
    Where can I find scripture ref the beauty of the sky with rainbow?
  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 13:10
    Adam. Yes, I would agree with you, in the sense that, since they followed Christ, they were technically Christians. However, when I think of being a Christian, I think of those who are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, as those who were called Christians from Pentecost & onwards. And this indwelling of the Spirit is what keeps the believer secure in Christ, receptive & responsive to sin's thrusts & given wholly to follow the Lord in spite of any circumstances coming against him in life.

    Sure, there will be doubts, fears, & even a major shaking of faith, but in the end, a full restoration spiritually & in his relationship to the Godhead. A nominal Christian can easily turn away or against the Lord, but the believer in Christ, filled with His Spirit, is incapable of doing such a thing. So, the question I ask myself daily, & I trust other believers would also do, is: "if I need to go through extreme hardship, a terminal illness, loss of my home or finances or even persecution, would I still remain faithful to my Saviour?" The Spirit-filled believer will persevere & endure to the end, being moved & empowered to do so by the Spirit.

    Studying the history of the saints who suffered terribly for their faith, reveals that spiritual fortitude in them that can't be found in those who are without salvation. Those who went to the stake strode forward valiantly, not seeing what would soon befall them, but the Face of the Blessed One waiting on the other side to receive them. If it was not for the Lord Jesus beside them, I wonder how many of Jesus' disciples would have faltered & fled at the face of danger, except for the one who saw his position in the group as one for material gain?
  • Robert Marino - in Reply on Genesis 10
    They will put antichrist into power & will continue to persecute the true remnant church. As far as the 70 weeks go, I mentioned this before.

    Jesus died in the middle of the 70th week or at 486 1/2 years because of the word AFTER in verse 26.

    That leaves 3 1/2 years to be fulfilled. Here are three possibilities. I hold to #2.

    1. The death of Stephen 3 1/2 years after Jesus died. This is a belief of the 7th Day ADventists but there is no way to prove his martyrdom historically or biblically on that time. But it is true the gospel really went to the Gentiles at that point so it might be true. Thta would ahve fulfilled the end of 70 weeks then.

    2. the 3 1/2 years of the Great Revolt War starting in spring of 66AD and ending in fall of 70 AD. I hold to this one because part of the Daniel 9 prophecy has to do with the destruction fo the temple and historically it did last 3 1/2 years.

    3. the 3 1/2 years mentioned in Revelation might be it but it doesn't make sense to me as there is nothing in the prophecy talking 2,000 years later & the temple being destroyed was part of the prophecy.

    I am open to the other two possibilities but it is interesting that the Great Revolt lasted 3 1/2 years, fits the prophecy perfectly & is exactly 40 years AFTER the death of Jesus and 40 is the number for testing, trials, etc. I see God granting grace of an extra 40 years since the crucifixion of Jesus even though they were causing many Jewish Christians to be killed by themselves and stirring up government against the Christians as they do to this very day in America with the ADL, ACLU, SPC, and many other organizations that have been taking away our rights for several decades now. We are the persecuted ones. They are hated by many because of what they do and say about Gentiles in their writings. Ever read the Talmud at all? Jesus is called a bastardd and burning in hell in excrement forever just to name one thing they say about Him. 1/3 of the world is SHEMitic. They make up words.
  • Naya - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Jesse, what I meant by "to be found worthy" is just having a good rapport, righteousness through faith in Jesus upon his return.

    When I say "natural born Israel" is physical Israelites by bloodline. Since the male carries the seed, whoever a person's father's father is down the line is the true nationality of that person according to God. Not discounting "mixed" with something else. I'm going strictly by the male's seed as it was done according to the Lord and the bible Descendants of the children of Israel are still here today, only God knows exactly who they are. That's the only way he can gather them from where he scattered them throughout the 4 corners of the earth upon his return.

    (You say Revelation 19 says we come back with him?) Read:Zechariah 14:1;3-5;9;16-17 (iThe day of the Lord's return, yes, he said he will bring all the saints w/him.

    See: I Thessalonians 3:12-13(This is the Lord saying he's coming w/all his saints.

    See: Zechariah 14:9; 16-17 (EVERYONE that is left of all nations. Ask yourself, where did Jesus get his saints from that he'll have w/him upon his return? See: I Thessalonians.

    I Thessalonians 4:13-17 (The Lord coming down. He said the saints will be "caught up in the clouds" to meet him in the air. This all takes place "after" the last trumpet, "after" the "Great Tribulation."

    See: Daniel 7:1-3; 13-14; 17-18; 27 (verse 13 Remember the Lord said he's coming meeting in the clouds?)

    4 Kings=4 Kingdoms. The saints of the most high will take the kingdom. "Under the heaven"=This is Jesus' Kingdom on earth. Notice verse 27 This is the last prophecy the angel Gabriel gave Mary.

    Ezekiel 20:32-39 The Lord is dealing w/Natural born Israel "after" his return on earth. These are mortal beings he will plead w/and purge out the rebels in the wilderness, then make his new covenant w/them. Part of this scripture deals w/the past;part of it deals w/future events.

    I'll answer your second part shortly.


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