Bible Discussion PAGE 8

  • Andrea - in Reply on 2 Chronicles 10
    Not understanding this comment.
  • Leigh - in Reply on Acts 2:38
    Willie,

    Just stand on the scriptures, God will take care of the rest, He will honour Your stand on His Word.

    Acts 2:38 KJV

    [38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    Find someone who will baptise you in the name of the Jesus Christ, if you haven't already.

    Then you will not be tossed about by every ones opinions.

    John 16:13 KJV

    [13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

    He will guide you into all truth.

    1 John 2:27 KJV

    [27] But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

    ye need not that any man teach you

    There you go Willie, that's God's Word.

    Stand on it, He promised it. Praise the Lord.

    Faith leads to obedience.

    John 15:7 KJV

    [7] If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

    You want Him to settle this doubt, ask Him and believe Him when He said - it shall be done unto you.

    Matthew 24:35 KJV

    [35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    God bless you
  • Alex on Mark 5
    Comments by Alex on the man legion living in the tombs. Legion was MANY as there are many living in the tombs under the Law. The law said the soul that sinneth shall surly die thus we are in the tombs under the law. And legion was without clothing and so are we under the law simply b/c the law exposes our sinful nature. Legion means Many script. says that Many men tried to tame legion with chains and fetters but he broke the chains and fetters to pieces and was driven OF THE DEVIL into the wilderness . ( OUTSIDE THE HOLY CITY ) THE CHAINS AND FETTERS WERE OF IRON BUT THEY WERE WEAK TO LEGION .What the law cd not do in that it WEAK thru the flesh God had to send his son in the form on sinful flesh to condemn sin in the flesh. The laws and commandments are strong as iron but they are Weak to the flesh meaning mans carnal mind is satans head spirit .Carnal man breaks every law and commandment to pieces just like legion broke every chain and fetter to pieces. Many men try to tame their sinful adamic nature with laws and commannments ( chains and fetters ) but we break every law and commandments to pieces. What the law cd NOT do in that it was weak thru the flesh God had to send his son in the form of sinfull flesh to condemn sin in the flesh. simply b/c the law cd not do it. Only Christ cd tame legion by his living WORD, whom the son sets free is free indeed but the law cd not set mankind free. Jesus said whosoever sins is the servant of sin thus we are not free just yet till this corruptible puts on incorruption, and this mortal puts on immortality near future.nobody can tame the beasts that lives with n us as James said all the beasts in the world has been tamed by man but the tongue can no man tame the tongue is an extention of mans carnal mind mans carnal mind is the beast.That which is born of the flesh is the beast When they brought Josephs coat to Jacob he said a wild beast has done this and he was right the 10 born of the flesh was th beasts and still true. gb
  • Natalya - in Reply on John 19
    Mary Jane,

    The Scriptures - not tradition - puts Jesus crucified on Friday.

    Jesus represented a sacrificial lamb in the 1st Jewish Feast, Passover. The timing was as predicted in the Bible. Jesus knew that His time has come.

    Exodus 12:6 "And ye shall keep it [lamb] up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening."

    John 13:1 "Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that His hour was come that He should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own which were in the world, He loved them unto the end."

    1 Cor. 5:7 "For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us."
  • Robert DeHaan on Psalms 47
    Lord, set up Your Kingdom in my heart today. I need You to continue to teach me more of You O LORD Of All! May my soul thirst continually for You. Thank You for paying my sin debt at Calvary. Jesus is the sweetest Name I know. I will Praise You!
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on John 5:43
    Ann Hering, I have to disagree with you. There is no distinction in the Bible that would warrant belief in 2 separate Gospels. However:

    1. Do any of the writers of the New Testament support the allegations you have outlined? That is, do any of the writers of the NT say what you say you have been taught? Does Paul say that the Gospel he preaches is different than what Peter preaches?

    2. Does the teaching you point to, provide hard evidence, not conjecture or speculation? For example, Peter tells us to listen to Paul's teaching, because they are Scripture, 2 Peter 3:16:

    "Consider also that our Lord's patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever."

    You cite a lot of verses that have nothing to do with the Bible message. But not only do you cite them, you change their meaning by adding words that don't belong.

    Tell me, Ann, who were Sylvanus and Marcus, that Peter writes about in 1 Peter 5:12f? Finally, tell me what the difference is between the Gospel Peter preached and what Paul preached?

    In Acts 16:4, we see Paul and Silas "And as they went through the cities, THEY DELIVERED THEM THE DECREES FOR TO KEEP, THAT WERE ORDAINED OF THE APOSTLES AND ELDERS WHICH WERE AT JERUSALEM. And so were the churches established in the faith."

    Paul proclaimed the Gospel the Apostles outlined for everyone in Jerusalem. It was one Gospel message.
  • Andrew Kingsly Raj on Joel 1
    In this chapter we see Joel is a prophet of God in the reign of King Joash some 800 years before Christ. His message is timeless pronouncing that sin brings God's judgement with a plague of locusts. In making application we see how sin devours our life just like the locust so when we choose to sin we are choosing to bring destruction our way. Today many believe their are no consequences to sin but the truth is sin always complicates and robs us of God's best for our lives. How about you? Do you see the consequences of sin? Let us learn from our text today and the words of Joel who reminds us that sin is like a locust in our life that will devour God's best for your life.
  • Ann Hering - in Reply on John 5:43
    Adam ...

    The Word of God is CLEAR!

    Salvation is by GRACE through FAITH in believing that Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and rose again!

    That's IT!

    Galatians 2:16

    Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

    Romans 11:6

    And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

    2 Timothy 1:9

    Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

    Romans 4:4

    Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

    Galatians 5:4

    Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

    I AM sticking with WHAT Paul SAYS!

    You SEE Salvation is just BELIEVING in what Jesus Christ DID for US!

    NO WORKS required!
  • Obbie Beal on Revelation 18
    3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    Note: all nations, the kings, the merchants, were partners in this fornication /sin, especially when we consider the lust of the flesh, eye, pride of life, seduced them and us. So this part of the wrath mention here shall come forth because Jehovah / GOD has declared it. Thank GOD for SALVATION through verses such as John 3;16-21 plus giving all time to prepare.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Timothy 2:4
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    "Also, if a sinner who did not follow Christ in this life, if he begs for forgiveness and mercy, do you think God has a limitation on his mercy? The picture God you paint is not All Love, and All Merciful, and All Powerful." I referred to this previously, in connection with predestination. But for a Loving, Merciful God casting all who reject Him & His Christ, into fire, then isn't that a Holy attribute of a Just & Lawful God? If we take out punishment from the equation, then what are we left with? And what are we to do with the abundance of Scripture that warns of an eternal damnation & for those Christ gave His Life for, the martyrs who were executed, & for the glorious worth of our salvation that gives us Heaven as our goal & not as those destined to join Satan & his followers in the Lake of Fire?

    So, I thank you John for your comments - you've exercised my mind & spirit superbly.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Timothy 2:4
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    4. "The Fire of God". Once again, the Scriptures cited are relevant in every detail. Then I get to: "if Jesus meant to save all men, and fails to fulfil that promise, he missed the mark, and that would make God a sinner. The whole world is in His hands, not mens hands." I ask, what was that promise that God made & maybe could fail to keep? Was it, that ALL men would be saved? Even if look at John 3:16, we see that as a result of God's Love, He sent His Son to be the Saviour for all, but not all would be saved (whoever believes would not perish). We are never told that the Gospel would mean the salvation of all people, but the means by which all would be saved. I could never see Ephesians 1:10 & Revelation 5:13 as applicable to the eventual salvation of all people. As well, then why the need for the preaching of the Gospel, why teach about leading sanctified lives, why give the promise of His Coming, when eventually all (saved & sinner) will be preserved to eternal life?

    5. Romans 14:11. If the criminal had to stand before an earthly judge, they will do anything to justify their actions & hopefully find respite from the severity of their sentence. But to stand before our Great & Holy Judge? Their only response would be to fall before Him in full submission to His Glory & full admission to their filthiness before Him, regardless of their eternal destination. No more excuses & no more hypocrisy - "all will stand 'bare' and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do" Hebrews 4:13.

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  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Timothy 2:4
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    3. On Predestination. "We don't have true 'Free will' to choose God". Again, I can't disagree with you on this count: after all, He drew us, He convicted us, & He saved us - nothing of ourselves there. That is why, when I hear someone say that he has 'considered many religions & then decided on Christianity', I tremble as to his actual spiritual condition.

    "So how can we say men will be subject to eternal damnation when God didn't allow them to believe in him?" So here we have the problem: put another way, a person wants to repent of his many sins & call upon Jesus, but just cannot be saved because God has not predestined him to be His child. Or, would a person who is NOT predestined to salvation, even want to repent & call upon His Name? So such a person, not predestined, by all accounts should not be punished in hell fire as that would be unjust & 'unloving' of God to do. However, could we say that this Omniscient God predestines some to eternal damnation because of their future lives of wilful disobedience & rejection of the Gospel? That is, predestination is contingent upon the response of that carnal nature, of which the Creator God could only know? Jeremiah 1:5; Psalms 139:13-16. Each one of us is still responsible for the quality of our lives (predestined or not). God doesn't judge us for what He already knows, but what we do. Our evil acts from reprobate minds then justify our eternal damnation.

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  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Timothy 2:4
    Page 1.

    John, thank you for your detailed reply & for taking the time to do so. It was very helpful to understand more fully your thoughts on the matters raised with the abundance of Scriptures you cited.

    1. I'm in full agreement with the 'two natures': I understand them as you do. The statement you made on your first page, "Not only (is) this a spiritual fire but this fire is essential to being saved, which I believe we are not saved until we have endured to the end", would be the one I would question. I believe that our perseverance till the end IS necessary & is proof of the reality of our salvation, however, we can know NOW that we are saved & that our salvation is not left in the balance until our last breath (e.g. 1 John 5:11-13; John 5:24, 6:53,54; Romans 6:23). These verses & others show that Eternal Life for those in Christ is their blessed possession NOW & not contingent till the end. However, of course, that we endure to the end is proof of the reality of that salvation. Having worked amongst Muslims, I'm well aware of their uncertainty of salvation until their final stand before Allah. They can do all their required acts & more, but there's no certainty as their works hang in the balance (i.e. with the two angels over each shoulder). For the believer, our salvation is made sure & secure through Christ's death alone & faith in that finished work: so we can be sure now, our joy can be full now & our fight against the dark forces always end in victory. And the final proof of all that is that we finish the course fully (2 Timothy 4:7).

    2. Meaning of 'aion'. I've checked your references & concur with the meaning there of 'eternal' (age lasting/age long). I see no problem with their use whether in 'punishment' or in 'life' in those verses.

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  • Mishael on lady preachers - in Reply on 1 Timothy 3
    I've done street ministry with women and men. Sometimes the women want a female street minister to talk to or be ministered to.

    As I am fond of saying: God will use a donkey to speak if there is no one else to speak for Him.

    There's this lady I met at church who has a real prophetic gift. Iverna Tompkins. You should have a listen on YouTube. I'm afraid she's passed on, but wow can she preach.
  • Mishael on WE39RE IN THEY39RE OUT on Job 1
    Remember that study I did called, THEY'RE OUT, and WE'RE IN now. Romans 3:29

    We're in till the fullness of the Gentiles is accomplished? Romans 11:25-26

    For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this MYSTERY, Lest you should be wise in your own conceits; that BLINDNESS in part, is HAPPENED to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in (finished).

    And so, all Israel Shall be Saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob (The Jews).

    That's why I say that Gentiles are IN now.

    The whole thing is DETAILED in Romans 11:7-11. Please read it!! Romans 10:2 and Romans 11:12, 15, 18-22 READ IT SLOW

    There are some warnings in there if you are a Gentile. No boasting, no judging, no smirking. Just leave it alone!!!! Keep your salvation secure. No hateful commenting.

    They are blinded. Their ears are closed up by God. Their eyes have scales on them. Why?? For us Christians!! " The Election"

    Romans 10:19. Deuteronomy 32:21. Our love for Jesus is supposed to make them envious. What a happy, cheerful, non- judgmental Jesus Loving Bunch we are?!?!

    Yes they are into all manner of idolatry and occultism mixed with Jewish ritualism. It has to have a lot of emptiness in it, if God is not speaking to you.

    IT could happen to us if we can't learn (from scriptures above) to keep our yaps closed. We are WARNED.

    If one person yaps, another person does; soon the whole neighborhood is barking and no one is listening to God!!

    I think God would love it if we would get over our self-righteous, judgmentalness. They probably don't even know they are OUT.

    I will not speak on this again. I'm dropping this ball... you pick it up.



    I made banana bread. Come get a handful.
  • Mishael - in Reply on John 5:43
    Just be careful disparaging on Gods chosen people. He has his plans. God has "yelled" at me for judging a few times. I'm cured.
  • Mishael on Psalms 70
    AND WHAT IS THE GOSPEL?

    Jesus Christ is the Son of God

    His Virgin birth

    His perfect sinless life

    His Death on the Cross

    Resurrected after 3 days

    Witnessed by his disciples and at least 500 people in town who SAW him with their own eyes and gave testimony of it.

    If anything is added on or taken away, then that is heresy.
  • Mishael to Willie - in Reply on Acts 2:38
    Sometimes you need to read a lot of scripture About the Holy Spirit to be CERTAIN about who He is and what He is all about. He is not a tongue.

    If you are nervous about who the Holy Spirit is... He already knows you are. He'll wait till you search the scriptures to be settled in your mind, that He is the 3rd person of the Godhead; He is the Spirit of Christ Jesus. Jesus went to the Cross partly so we all who believe on Jesus can receive the Holy Spirit without fears. Knowledge is strength.

    If your Bible has a dictionary OR a concordance; look up all those scriptures.

    When you ARE SURE you want the Holy Spirit ?? Then hold up your hands and say this out loud: " Holy Spirit I trust you and I want everything that you want me to have". I receive it now by faith. Thank you Jesus!!

    Amen! Praise God! So Be It! Hallelujah!
  • Mishael on James 217 on Psalms 70
    If someone is starving or about to lapse in a diabetic coma, and you stand on your vow not to feed bums... what good is your faith?

    Got some good faith verses in Galatians too.
  • Pray 4 the Holy Ghost on 1 Timothy 3
    Because the Bible has no contradictions, it must be accepted in its entirety. Problems arise when people begin to inject their "knowledge" and "beliefs" into Church doctrine. For instance, I have read people saying that Timothy's position was based on how women were treated at the time. "Why, that is down-right sexist!" you might say. And you may be right. But the truth be told, your position is irrelevant and something you could correct God on when you see Him.

    There is also another argument I have heard. And that is "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." - 1 Corinthians 12:23. That verse is used to justify equality between men and women and therefore allowing women to preach. If one truly has the Spirit, one would understand the relationship between men and women and inherently know that they are not called upon to teach in church.
  • Pray 4 the Holy Ghost on 1 Timothy 3
    Let us pray that the Holy Ghost gives us wisdom to address the issue of women preachers and keeping silent. God himself set the relationship model in Genesis 3:16 when unto the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." When would you then think that He would then allow women to preach to men? When Jesus chose the 12 Apostles, how many were women? Timothy, when laying out the structure of the Church was quite clear in the leadership roles. 3:1 - This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop. Likewise, in 3:12 " Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife". Timothy then expounds on these concepts by describing the personality characteristics of men and women in which he clearly identifies the role of each. Finally, Timothy writes in 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?). Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12 talks about the diversity of gifts. He specifically mentions men. He concludes in 12:28 that God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. No where does Paul mention women. He does mention women in Titus 2:3/4 - The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Psalms 133
    Every time you read the Book of Revelation, all the way through, you are blessed.
  • Sandi - in Reply on Hebrews 10
    Oh but of course, indeed!
  • S Lipton on Psalms 133
    When as God's child if we are in oneness Lord is giving a special blessing. Not a corporate blessing,but commanding a blessing upon us, as like God commanded ravens to feed Elijah which no body can change including Ahab (Power of darkness)
  • Adam - in Reply on John 5:43
    Please be respectful. The Bible already answered your question. You cited a verse in James, but have you read the whole book, specifically James 2? If someone disagrees with that then they're disagreeing with God's word. And if they disagree with God's word, who are they following exactly? If someone disagrees that Christianity requires action then they are disagreeing with Jesus himself. It's clear who wins that argument. The Bible is what matters, not what people want to believe.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Acts 2:38
    Willie,

    The only gift that is promised to those who receive Christ is the gift of the Holy Spirit. He gives us His Spirit. No other gift is promised to us. You had nothing to be embarrassed about. There are some who teach that speaking in tongues is evidence that you have the Holy Spirit. Some will also say that your inability to speak in tongues is because of your "lack of faith." There's a theological term for that. It's called Baloney! There is no such thing as a person who has been born of God's Spirit lacking faith. I have never spoken in tongues but I have no doubt that God's Spirit is working in my life. The tongues that are being taught in the church today are not the tongues of the bible. As far as getting re-baptized (Water), there is nothing saying you can't do that. Water baptism is an outward testimony of an inward change. In other words, you are giving a public testimony that you have received Christ and you are identifying yourself with His death, burial, and resurrection. Water baptism is a physical human expression. Jesus baptizes people with His Spirit. That is the baptism that saves you!
  • Jesse - in Reply on Luke 14
    Jo, jo

    The word good in V. 34 means useful. In those days, salt was a preservative. They put salt on things to keep it from putrefying. But if salt does not contain the proper ingredients, what is it good for? Jesus talks about salt and light in Matthew 5:13-16. He says, "You are the salt of the earth." At this point and time in experiencing the fullness of God, He says, YOU ARE the salt of the earth. And then He says, "YOU ARE the light of the world." Salt was used for two things. It was used as a preservative. They used it to preserve food, especially meat and vegetables. They also used it for purification. In 2 Kings 2:19-23, salt was used to purify bad water.

    But to know why He used the term salt, we need to understand that God made a covenant of salt with Israel (Numbers 18:19), which God said would be upon David and his descendants. Paul in Romans Chapter 11 said all of the Jews of the Kingdom. In Matthew 5:14-16, Jesus says you are salt and you are light. He went on to say that you can't take a light and put it under a bushel.

    What He is saying is you can't snuff out the light of the Lord. The light amongst the Jews was the Messiah. You are salt. Christ in you is the light, and Christ in you is the purification and the preservative for the people around you and especially in your life.

    The command is let your light so shine. Did you ever sing that song "This little light of mine, not going to let anybody blow it out? It can't be blown out. Nobody can blow it out. The command itself, (let your light so shine) kind of sounds like an invitation. But literally, it is "Shine your light," which is a command of God. Shine your light! I don't have to worry about going out to my car to find the light because the Lord said for me to shine it. Israel was said to be the light of the world. Isaiah 42:6, Isaiah 49:6, and Isaiah 60:3 says that the Jews were to be the salt and the light of the world.
  • Ann Hering - in Reply on John 5:43
    Adam . . .

    Which ONE is IT?

    FAITH or WORKS???

    It CAN'T BE BOTH!

    Ephesians 2:8-9

    For by GRACE are ye saved through FAITH; and that NOT of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    NOT of WORKS, lest any man should boast.

    James 2:24

    Ye see them how that by WORKS a man is justified, and NOT by FAITH ONLY.

    You HAVE A DILEMMA!

    ANSWER:

    WHO is James written TO?

    James 1:1

    James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, TO THE TWELVE TRIBES which are scattered abroad, greeting.

    James was writing to ISRAEL!

    WHO is Paul writing TO?

    Ephesians 3:6

    That the GENTILES should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

    Pretty CLEAR, You Are A GENTILE!

    Paul is The Apostle Of The GENTILES!

    You had better listen to Paul, Romans to Philemon, to FIND out HOW to be SAVED!
  • Pearly on Psalms 37
    Inspite that there is a virus worldwide now that we are still reading his word let's just trust in the LORD as always.
  • Pearly - in Reply on Psalms 37
    Amen T Nelson


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