Here we have those who wanted the Gentiles to be circumcised. A seal "Binding them to the law."
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Acts 15:7-11.
Did you catch what Peter said? He says we "Jews" shall be saved even as they "Gentiles" you would think it should be the other way around!! reminds you of Romans 11:25-26. Then James put it in sequence here in vs 16.
After this I WILL RETURN, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
This is all future.
Concerning Judas.
John 18:9.
That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.
Judas had done already betrayed Jesus, but yet Jesus I have lost none!
Judas was never chosen to sit on the twelve thrones, Every time he was mentioned we were reminded that he was going to betray Jesus. Jesus called him a devil and a their BEFORE he betrayed him. He was never saved.
Hi Rutendo. We're not told specifically why Zebedee didn't join his sons to follow Jesus, but I suspect that a good reason would be that Zebedee wasn't called by Jesus to join Him. Jesus knew which men were to be selected to be His disciples, even as He chose Judas Iscariot who would betray Him ( John 6:70,71), so even though there were many other disciples of Jesus (those who followed Him around), only 12 were specifically selected to be with Him continually & Zebedee wasn't one of them.
Others here might have other thoughts why Zebedee continued with repairing the nets & going about his business - though he probably felt the extra workload upon him, being short of helping hands. Anyway, he probably realized then, or soon after, that this call by Jesus upon his sons, was far more important than trying to prevent them from joining Jesus.
I understand Jeremiah easier when I've read the whole book.
Jeremiah 1:1-3, Jeremiah had been called by GOD while young, Jeremiah 1:6, to speak very difficult words of Judgement, Jeremiah 1:8-10, in opposition to other "prophetic" voices telling them lies. Jeremiah 5:31,
In Jeremiah 11:19-21 they plotted to kill him.
This seems like to us & most likely to Jeremiah much time in human perspective had passed & GOD had said in Jeremiah 1:12, He would hasten HIS Word to perform it. GOD had promised judgement, yet by Chapter 12, Jeremiah seems frustrated because of the evil. Jeremiah 5:3-4, asks them to repent: Jeremiah 7:5-11,, Jeremiah 3:22 even looks like they repented in Jeremiah 3:22-25,
Jeremiah 5:1,2,
Jeremiah 12:4, the land had been troubled since Jeremiah 2,
Several Prophets suffered much from the people they were sent to. Matthew 23,
Keep quoting scripture. Do not listen to anything they say. Confusion is normal. When you feel fear and confusion you can guarantee it is an evil spirit. In the NT they spoke often when they saw Jesus. Also look for anything in your life like unforgiveness and other rebellion in your heart. Repent immediately. We should be repenting regardless. However never forget Lucifer is created and still ultimately a servant of God as are his underlings.
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and giuen him a Name which is aboue euery name: 10That at the Name of Iesus euery knee should bow, of things in heauen, and things in earth, and things vnder the earth: 11And that euery tongue should confesse, that Iesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE LORD, AND ARE GONE FORTH OUT OF HIS LAND.
BUT I HAD PITY FOR MINE HOLY NAME, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I DO NOT THIS FOR YOUR SAKES,
( O HOUSE OF ISRAEL, )BUT FOR MINE HOLY NAME'S SAKE, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
AND I WILL SANCTIFY MY GREAT NAME, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
A NEW HEART ALSO WILL I GIVE YOU, AND A NEW SPIRIT WILL I PUT WITHIN YOU: and
(( I WILL TAKE AWAY THE STONY HEART OUT OF YOUR FLESH, AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN HEART OF FLESH.
AND I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
Ezekiel 36:19-28.
A new heart has been given to the Church, BUT NOT TO THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. That's the Nation, Paul's kinsman in the flesh.
Amos 9:-914.
and
And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
Amos 9:15.
They've been moved out of the land SINCE Joshua brought them in!!
But strong or solid meat belongs to them that are of full age, that is, mature. And then he describes what maturity is: even those who by reason of use, and that's the word habit, have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Here's what he's saying. A mature believer is someone who has had their inner senses exercised through the hearing of the word of God, to where their inner faculties and inner senses are sensitive to the spiritual things of Christ.
So here's what the writer of Hebrews is saying:
The same way a person would plan out a schedule for getting in shape, if you wanted to start running and get into shape, you start out slow. You might just walk because you're not ready to run yet.
After a couple of weeks you start running. This is something that you have to do every day. If you leave off for a while, you can't just pick right back up where you left off. You have to start slow and build yourself back up again.
I think it's interesting that the writer of Hebrews would spend this much time in detail for us sharing that if we understand what an athlete goes through, every day, exercise, exercise, exercise, building up the endurance, and building up the condition of the muscles so that we can handle larger amounts of distance.
So we build up our endurance, and we become what we reach as a place of being in shape. And we consider ourselves being conditioned.
What the writer is saying is that when you put yourself under the hearing of God's Spirit through His word, God's Spirit is exercising your inner senses to the spiritual things of God.
And the more consistent you hear the word, the more sensitive you become to the spiritual things of Christ. But if you leave off, the inner senses become dull, and we become more in tune with the world around us.
Whereas, as often as we would like to submit ourselves to the study of God's word, we become ready for the solid food, and for the in-depth detail of God Himself.
As I promised I would get back to you on your reply and questioning.
Let's start with the verses you gave as the promises that Israel forfeited over to the Church.
1. Genesis 12:1-3,
2. Genesis 12:7,
3. Genesis 13:14-17,
4. Genesis 15:5-7
5. Genesis 15:13-15,
6. Genesis 15:18-21,
7. Genesis 17:4-10,
8. Genesis 21:17-18
You stated, "Abraham and his seed pass to Jesus and His children. and you say according to
Galatians 3:16. Paul atributes these verses to Christ it is obvious that they are for Israel as well.
Let's look at Galatians 3:14-17.
If you notice in the link the promise/covenant was not a land covenant. Verses 2-8 you gave are all the land covenant.
Did you notice in Genesis 15:15-17. God told Abraham he would die before they would enter the land?
Look how Stephen put in Acts 7:4-5.
"and is is after God performed the covenant!!" So when will he inherit it? Hebrews11:8-10.
Now the 1st verse is a preview of both. The Promise his seed going to be given land. "Israel"
( and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. ) "Christ"
This is the only portion associated with Galatians 3:16.
Here is the covenant Paul is speaking of in Galatians.
( And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; AND THY SEED SHALL POSSESS THE GATE OF "HIS" ENEMIES;
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. )
Genesis 22:16-18.
The Gospel was preached even before there was a law to be broken.
Galatians 3:8.
" Important verse"
I removed "if it" because I believe it's in italics and shouldn't be there.
( Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet be confirmed, NO MAN DISANNULLETH, OR ADDETH THERETO.) Galatians 3:15.
When it come to prophecy being revealed it is after the rapture of the church
1 Thessalonians 4:17
(14) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
(15) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
(16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
(17) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
2 Thessalonians 2:7
4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5) Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10)And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Also what do you mean by "differently" ?
If, and if you think the church the body of Christ is what's Paul talking about thinking again .. also see this verse
Hebrews 11:22
"By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones."
There are more than one kind of seed and some seeds in the Bible are evil.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The mustard seed is very small but the mustard plant is a weed without branches, not a towering tree.
Birds can be clean or unclean and birds in the branches of a tree are not generally a depiction of some sort of ecumenicism approved of God. I already mentioned Pharaoh and his great tree the Lord cut down because of his pride. This is Nebuchadnezzar's tree full of birds that the Lord also cut down because of his pride ( Daniel 4):
20 The tree that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth;
21 Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation:
22 It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;
24 This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the most High, which is come upon my lord the king:
25 That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
Yep, we should focus on the main lesson of the text and not on such things as skin color of people in a time where we cannot know. And even if we did know, your right, it is not significant to give much consideration.
Jeremiah 33:17-18, Jeremiah 33:19-22, Luke 1-2, note JESUS was cousin to Elizabeth whom was daughter to Aaron, Luke 1:5, making him heir also to priesthood after Aaron, it appears. Fulfillment of the law, not necessarily replacing: Matthew 5:17,18,
I don't think any one , would judge some one who was in constant pain every day , harshly for taking pain relief . Constant pain is extremely distressing . However I agree with Gigi , if your conscience is nibbling in your ear , maybe you should talk to your doctor about it . I hope you get yourself sorted soon , may God bless you .
Matthew 13:31 The kingdom of heaven IS LIKE (not actual) a grain of mustard SEED ...
Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The SEED is the WORD OF GOD (CHRIST).
..... which a man took (the man Jesus Christ), and sowed in his field.
Matthew 13:38 The field is the world.
Matthew 13:32 Which (the SEED) indeed is the least of all SEEDS: but when it (the SEED) is grown, it (the SEED) is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a TREE (of LIFE)....
The kingdom of God is THIS TREE (of LIFE).
..... so that the birds (fowls) of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
John 15:5 Ye are the branches ....
Luke 13:9 ....and the fowls of the air (the devil) lodged in the branches of it (the tree).
Luke 8:5 and some fell by the way side.... and the fowls of the air devoured it (the SEED)......
Luke 8:12 Those by the way side, are those that hear, then cometh the DEVIL (fowls of the air), and taketh away THE WORD (the SEED)....
Psalms 104:12 By them (the springs of water, living water) shall the fowls of heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches.
Ezekiel 17:23 In the mountain the height of Israel will I plant it (the SEED), and it (the SEED) shall bring forth boughs (branches), and bear fruit (SEED), and be a goodly cedar (tree), and UNDER IT (the tree) shall dwell every fowl of ever wing, in the shadow of the branches thereof shall they dwell.
The devil WILL BE SHAKEN out of the branches of the kingdom of God (the TREE OF LIFE).
Matthew 12:28 If I CAST OUT devils by the Spirit of God (LIFE and TRUTH) then the kingdom of GOD is come unto you.
Here we have those who wanted the Gentiles to be circumcised. A seal "Binding them to the law."
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Acts 15:7-11.
Did you catch what Peter said? He says we "Jews" shall be saved even as they "Gentiles" you would think it should be the other way around!! reminds you of Romans 11:25-26. Then James put it in sequence here in vs 16.
After this I WILL RETURN, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
This is all future.
Concerning Judas.
John 18:9.
That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.
Judas had done already betrayed Jesus, but yet Jesus I have lost none!
Judas was never chosen to sit on the twelve thrones, Every time he was mentioned we were reminded that he was going to betray Jesus. Jesus called him a devil and a their BEFORE he betrayed him. He was never saved.
God bless you Giannis
I will be talking to you tomorrow.
Others here might have other thoughts why Zebedee continued with repairing the nets & going about his business - though he probably felt the extra workload upon him, being short of helping hands. Anyway, he probably realized then, or soon after, that this call by Jesus upon his sons, was far more important than trying to prevent them from joining Jesus.
Well Spoken, There's many diverse heresies comes out of that belief!!
God bless.
I understand Jeremiah easier when I've read the whole book.
Jeremiah 1:1-3, Jeremiah had been called by GOD while young, Jeremiah 1:6, to speak very difficult words of Judgement, Jeremiah 1:8-10, in opposition to other "prophetic" voices telling them lies. Jeremiah 5:31,
In Jeremiah 11:19-21 they plotted to kill him.
This seems like to us & most likely to Jeremiah much time in human perspective had passed & GOD had said in Jeremiah 1:12, He would hasten HIS Word to perform it. GOD had promised judgement, yet by Chapter 12, Jeremiah seems frustrated because of the evil. Jeremiah 5:3-4, asks them to repent: Jeremiah 7:5-11,, Jeremiah 3:22 even looks like they repented in Jeremiah 3:22-25,
Jeremiah 5:1,2,
Jeremiah 12:4, the land had been troubled since Jeremiah 2,
Several Prophets suffered much from the people they were sent to. Matthew 23,
Hopefully this is helpful.
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and giuen him a Name which is aboue euery name: 10That at the Name of Iesus euery knee should bow, of things in heauen, and things in earth, and things vnder the earth: 11And that euery tongue should confesse, that Iesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Part 2.
"Notice the Highlights."
And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE LORD, AND ARE GONE FORTH OUT OF HIS LAND.
BUT I HAD PITY FOR MINE HOLY NAME, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I DO NOT THIS FOR YOUR SAKES,
( O HOUSE OF ISRAEL, )BUT FOR MINE HOLY NAME'S SAKE, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
AND I WILL SANCTIFY MY GREAT NAME, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
A NEW HEART ALSO WILL I GIVE YOU, AND A NEW SPIRIT WILL I PUT WITHIN YOU: and
(( I WILL TAKE AWAY THE STONY HEART OUT OF YOUR FLESH, AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN HEART OF FLESH.
AND I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
Ezekiel 36:19-28.
A new heart has been given to the Church, BUT NOT TO THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. That's the Nation, Paul's kinsman in the flesh.
Amos 9:-914.
and
And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
Amos 9:15.
They've been moved out of the land SINCE Joshua brought them in!!
See part 3.
Here's what he's saying. A mature believer is someone who has had their inner senses exercised through the hearing of the word of God, to where their inner faculties and inner senses are sensitive to the spiritual things of Christ.
So here's what the writer of Hebrews is saying:
The same way a person would plan out a schedule for getting in shape, if you wanted to start running and get into shape, you start out slow. You might just walk because you're not ready to run yet.
After a couple of weeks you start running. This is something that you have to do every day. If you leave off for a while, you can't just pick right back up where you left off. You have to start slow and build yourself back up again.
I think it's interesting that the writer of Hebrews would spend this much time in detail for us sharing that if we understand what an athlete goes through, every day, exercise, exercise, exercise, building up the endurance, and building up the condition of the muscles so that we can handle larger amounts of distance.
So we build up our endurance, and we become what we reach as a place of being in shape. And we consider ourselves being conditioned.
What the writer is saying is that when you put yourself under the hearing of God's Spirit through His word, God's Spirit is exercising your inner senses to the spiritual things of God.
And the more consistent you hear the word, the more sensitive you become to the spiritual things of Christ. But if you leave off, the inner senses become dull, and we become more in tune with the world around us.
Whereas, as often as we would like to submit ourselves to the study of God's word, we become ready for the solid food, and for the in-depth detail of God Himself.
I agree with you that most references to the birds of the air or the fowls of heaven are references to evil spirits or the devil.
Jeremiah 5:27
As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.
Part 1
As I promised I would get back to you on your reply and questioning.
Let's start with the verses you gave as the promises that Israel forfeited over to the Church.
1. Genesis 12:1-3,
2. Genesis 12:7,
3. Genesis 13:14-17,
4. Genesis 15:5-7
5. Genesis 15:13-15,
6. Genesis 15:18-21,
7. Genesis 17:4-10,
8. Genesis 21:17-18
You stated, "Abraham and his seed pass to Jesus and His children. and you say according to
Galatians 3:16. Paul atributes these verses to Christ it is obvious that they are for Israel as well.
Let's look at Galatians 3:14-17.
If you notice in the link the promise/covenant was not a land covenant. Verses 2-8 you gave are all the land covenant.
Did you notice in Genesis 15:15-17. God told Abraham he would die before they would enter the land?
Look how Stephen put in Acts 7:4-5.
"and is is after God performed the covenant!!" So when will he inherit it? Hebrews11:8-10.
Now the 1st verse is a preview of both. The Promise his seed going to be given land. "Israel"
( and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. ) "Christ"
This is the only portion associated with Galatians 3:16.
Here is the covenant Paul is speaking of in Galatians.
( And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; AND THY SEED SHALL POSSESS THE GATE OF "HIS" ENEMIES;
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. )
Genesis 22:16-18.
The Gospel was preached even before there was a law to be broken.
Galatians 3:8.
" Important verse"
I removed "if it" because I believe it's in italics and shouldn't be there.
( Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet be confirmed, NO MAN DISANNULLETH, OR ADDETH THERETO.) Galatians 3:15.
1 Thessalonians 4:17
(14) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
(15) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
(16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
(17) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
2 Thessalonians 2:7
4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5) Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10)And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Also what do you mean by "differently" ?
If, and if you think the church the body of Christ is what's Paul talking about thinking again .. also see this verse
Hebrews 11:22
"By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones."
My God bless
There are more than one kind of seed and some seeds in the Bible are evil.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The mustard seed is very small but the mustard plant is a weed without branches, not a towering tree.
Birds can be clean or unclean and birds in the branches of a tree are not generally a depiction of some sort of ecumenicism approved of God. I already mentioned Pharaoh and his great tree the Lord cut down because of his pride. This is Nebuchadnezzar's tree full of birds that the Lord also cut down because of his pride ( Daniel 4):
20 The tree that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth;
21 Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation:
22 It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;
24 This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the most High, which is come upon my lord the king:
25 That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
Pentecost was the Coming of the Holy Spirit .
Jesus said he had to go for the Holy Spirit to come . Interesting.
Sorry for such a delay in getting back to you.
I'm going to start another thread because this one seems to have been over ran.
See you on paige 1.
God bless.
To those that have known the truth , because they crucified Christ again , and Christ can not die for them again . So they have gone too far .
Those ignorant is another case .
By how people live that's how we see their fruit , not just words that sound good . The Pharisees where experts at that .
When people receive the mark of the Beast , that will be willful sin . They are for ever lost . How sad .
Conclusion, take sin deadly seriously. If you seek to over come God will help you all the way home . John 3.16
John 11:2,
This, Psalms 2, seems to me, to point to JESUS The MESSIAH, Promised one the one Savior to save all mankind, who will believe, Psalms 2:2
Psalms 2:7, look at JESUS during His baptism, Mark 1:11, Matthew 3:17, & Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5, Hebrews 5:5,
Psalms 2:8, JESUS when He was taken to the high place to be tempted, Matthew 4:8-10,
Psalms 2:2, when the rulers, the kings set themselves against Him, Acts 4:25-27, Luke 4:18,
JESUS coming to HIS own people, rejected by them Isaiah 53, Matthew 21:37-39,
Revelation 21:7
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The kingdom of God arrived 2000 years ago.
The kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.
Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery Christ in you ....
Christ's First Coming was in the flesh, a ministery of three and a half years.
Christ SECOND COMING was in SPIRIT (LIFE), in the form of the Holy Ghost, like a thief in the night.
You PASSOVER, death has passed over you and you have been given eternal LIFE and that LIFE IS CHRIST.
... This mystery... Christ in you ......
God Bless You!
Matthew 13:31 The kingdom of heaven IS LIKE (not actual) a grain of mustard SEED ...
Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The SEED is the WORD OF GOD (CHRIST).
..... which a man took (the man Jesus Christ), and sowed in his field.
Matthew 13:38 The field is the world.
Matthew 13:32 Which (the SEED) indeed is the least of all SEEDS: but when it (the SEED) is grown, it (the SEED) is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a TREE (of LIFE)....
The kingdom of God is THIS TREE (of LIFE).
..... so that the birds (fowls) of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
John 15:5 Ye are the branches ....
Luke 13:9 ....and the fowls of the air (the devil) lodged in the branches of it (the tree).
Luke 8:5 and some fell by the way side.... and the fowls of the air devoured it (the SEED)......
Luke 8:12 Those by the way side, are those that hear, then cometh the DEVIL (fowls of the air), and taketh away THE WORD (the SEED)....
Psalms 104:12 By them (the springs of water, living water) shall the fowls of heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches.
Ezekiel 17:23 In the mountain the height of Israel will I plant it (the SEED), and it (the SEED) shall bring forth boughs (branches), and bear fruit (SEED), and be a goodly cedar (tree), and UNDER IT (the tree) shall dwell every fowl of ever wing, in the shadow of the branches thereof shall they dwell.
The devil WILL BE SHAKEN out of the branches of the kingdom of God (the TREE OF LIFE).
Matthew 12:28 If I CAST OUT devils by the Spirit of God (LIFE and TRUTH) then the kingdom of GOD is come unto you.
God Bless You!
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Hebrews 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are par takers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.