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  • Edna - in Reply on Romans 8:9
    Hello, Chris. My name is Aaron. I'm responding on the behalf of my great grandmother, Edna, who posted the original comment.

    I think she was referring to the seal on the servants of God, mentioned in Revelation 7:3. She was asking what the difference between that seal and the "mark of the beast" was.

    Thank you for response! I never expected to get such a thorough response so quickly!

    I'll relay your comment to her.

    Thanks again!
  • Daphne M Hague on John 1
    who is Esaias in verse 23? Shouldn"t that be Isaiah?
  • Clif on Galatians 5
    St john and john the revelator the same person
  • Cynthia Nettles - in Reply on 1 Kings 13
    It surely does help me, Sir. I understand and am so thankful for your assistance. Your comments are so well appreciated.

  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Romans 8:9
    How true , what does it mean to receive the holy ghost ? Is it actually a "GHOST" that comes on you? Faith, an activity that takes place in the heart, that cannot be understood is when Jesus comes into your heart, you become a changed person, the "old man " is no longer who we were! There is thought, that as long as one has this knowledge, this is all one needs to be saved! This thinking is what Jesus spoke against and about. He said, knowing the history is not enough! Just because you are of the seed, does not give you salvation! So ,one could say old things are passed away and all things are new! That in fact these things are the work of the holy spirit!
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Romans 8:9
    Yes, that's all I meant by looking over the "Hebrew and Greek". The Thayers and Strongs definitions. The Masoretic Text and Textus Receptus. Sorry for miss implying.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Ephesians 2

    You say,"I am constantly told that my love for God is not going to save me

    from my sins." Your description of your love for God leaves out what knowing

    God produces in the mind and heart of believers, namely, his love for you.

    You say you know him as a guide and suddenly you confess wisdom to choose


    "This is my where my relationship with God began." The experience you describe

    is indeed awful, and in surviving it you could attribute that to the mercy of

    God, but it does not indicate/or merit eternal salvation. After all, as you

    said," I can turn back to it if i choose to." Maybe you've had what is

    recognized as a "foxhole confession", Oh God get me out of here and I'll

    believe in you. That's rational thinking, but it is the will of the flesh and

    not salvation. So now you profess two beginnings with God, both pre-Jesus.

    "I fear judgment. I live a life that I can proudly say is moral and kind.

    I am not without sin. But I trust God to guide me. Understand?"

    Yes I do and so do others on this site. It is no accident that you are here

    and talking about salvation. Salvation is traditional only because it is the

    same for everyone, only through trust in the death of Jesus for your sins.

    You can't earn it and nobody deserves it. When I said you don't mention his

    love for you, that is evident in that you "fear" judgement. You seem to

    prefer a "blind faith" that somehow things will just work out for you.

    God and his plan for salvation is understandable and that's what you are

    being pointed to by myself and others on this site.

    On the top of the opening page of this site is a menu selection called

    more. On that page is a selection called "How to become a Christian".

    There salvation is spelled out for you or anyone to understand.
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 8:9
    I do agree Charles that Tongues was a sign-Gift first for the Jews, so that they might be witnesses to the Power & Presence of God in a way that they've never seen before, but it seems clear that this Gift was never taken away & the early Church still had it & practised it, some for the edification of the Church, others who misused it (1 Corinthians chapter 14). The problem arises, whether the practise of that Gift today is the real deal & the insistence by some that it is the primary proof of the baptism by the Spirit.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Donna Vargas,

    "we are without a preacher right now and they are cinsidering an interm"

    The "we" and "they" have to talk things through. Never forget Christ himself is the spiritual head of any church, and he dwells in the heart and head of every believer. Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Genesis 2
    Lisa Armstrong,

    "Because the bible was written about the Israelites, from Adam and Eve"

    Adam and Eve were not Israelites, and the Bible is written about Almighty and Everlasting God. The history of all people of this world is a topic, as are matters like law, love of God, love of neighbors, government, nature, etc..
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Ephesians 2

    I had no part in the preparation of this site, however, I want to try and answer your question from an unbiased stance.

    First of all I do not see your perspective of "in light of" to have any bearing on the choice of passages used, rather, the two verses you bring to the question differ in their perspective. While both are excellent choices for someone who knows little or nothing of the Bible, the passage in Acts meets the "response" portion of the section header more clearly. About the only difference I can see is the understanding of the Lord's resurrection being important to the entire thought of what a person is to believe/trust about Jesus, as stated in 1Corinthians. Now that you mention the plan, I see it as regretful that it is slightly hidden in the index of the site, but I do understand that the site is all about the KJV and not the plan of salvation in particular. I have seen that the discussion section of the site is not without discussion about what salvation is and is not.
  • Charles R Peek on Ephesians 2
    Has anyone used 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" as the Gospel to believe to be born again?
  • Sacha on Psalms 75
    Adam ,you are resonably good at twisting peoples words in an agressive way in order to get a rise out of them but not good enough to ruffle my feathers ,its always the sign of a weak arguement ,i guess i am a bit older than you so i have a much thicker skin and im not easily wound up ,so as far as im concerned this conversation is over unless you have some thing very pertinent to say .
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 2:2
    In this very personal prison epistle by the Apostle Paul, he had much to commend the Philippian Church in their faith. But he knew that his time on Earth was soon to end, yet he always prayed for them with great joy for their fellowship with him & for their Christian life & witness.

    So Paul, in his final instructions encourages them in their walk & that the joy he had because of them, would be fulfilled (i.e. made complete & overflowing) as they make it a point to be of the same mind, of the same Christ-like love, of the same purpose, & of same humility that Christ showed by going to the Cross for them.

    In chapter 4:2, two ladies, Euodias & Syntyche, are specifically mentioned that they be of the same mind in the Lord (or, to be reconciled because of some division), so Paul may have been addressing this matter but also wanted the believers to grow further in Christ by his teaching. Yet Paul already great joy for them, but it would be truly abundant, if the Lord allowed him to visit them on his release, or at least hear about their growth if he was still kept in prison (1:25-27).
  • Charles R Peek - in Reply on Galatians 5
    Neither of the two Scripture tell you how to be saved, (born again) John 3:16, or Galatians 5. 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 tell us how to be saved during the age of grace. This is the Apostle Paul's Gospel, given to him by the Lord Jesus Christ to preach to the Gentiles.1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"
  • Charles R Peek - in Reply on Romans 8:9
    Remember Chris: tongues were for a sign unto the Jews bearing witness to the Gospel to the Jews (John 20:31) because the Jews require a sign, or they would not believe. Gentiles do not need a sign to believe.
  • Charles R Peek - in Reply on Romans 1
    The N I V leaves out 60,000 words, that the KJV has; and most of those word are about the Deity of Christ.
  • Charles R Peek - in Reply on Acts 2:38
    Acts 2:38, according to Matthew 10:5-7 is for the Lost sheep of the house of Israel; and first Corinthians 15: verse 3, and 4, are for the Gentiles. Take a look, and let me know what you think.
  • Ezekiel - in Reply on Philippians 2:2
    Joe Ann, I just came to your question when I was browsing comments. KJV sometimes have two or more verses making up one complete sentence. Here verses 1 and 2 are one sentence. Paul is telling Philippian church people that if they have charity (1 Corinthians 13:13) so to speak in verse 1, then they make him happy and he elaborates those characters for them to have, that make him happy in verse 2 like likeminded, same love, one accord, and one mind.

    "Fulfill ye my joy" is emphatic. Normally you would say, Ye fulfill my joy if or that.... Remember Isaiah 40:1, Comfort ye, comfort ye my people....? Isaiah repeated 'Comfort ye' for emphasis also. The more you read KJV, the more you will love its beautiful language. I heard that Shakespeare was influenced by KJV language. By the way, ye is plural of a single person you. I'm sure you knew about it.
  • Charles R Peek on Ephesians 2
    Charles Peek: In light of the fact that Jesus told His Disciples not to go to the Gentiles in Matthew Chapter 10; and then later on sent Paul to the Gentiles; why is Paul's Gospel (1st Corinthians 15: verses 3 and 4) not in your plan of Salvation instead of Acts 2;38?
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Genesis 2
    Greetings, Lisa.

    Genesis chapter 1 is the general account of the creation of the earth and its inhabitants, including a man and a woman.

    Chapter 2 focuses on the creation of that man and woman and it begins...

    "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,"Genesis 2:4.

    The phrase, "the generations of" is repeated 11 times in Genesis. Adam and Eve were the man and woman that God created and breathed the breath of life into.

    From Genesis 12 through Malachi, the last book in the Old Testament, is all concerning Abraham and his descendants, Israel or the Jewish people.

    The New Testament concerns the Jews and non-Jewish people referred to as Gentiles, the ministry of Jesus, The Son of God, His death, burial and Resurrection and how his disciples began spreading, The Gospel, the Good News that through trust in Jesus, anyone can be forgiven and have everlasting life, with the intent that God had for everyone.

    Yes, The Father, The Son and The Spirit cooperated in the creation events. They agreed, "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness." Then John wrote, "In the beginning was The Word and The Word was with God and The Word was God...And the Word was made flesh [Jesus], and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
  • Hughalfredhargrovesr on Isaiah 53
    It takes the blood of jesus to wash away your sins that when you are born again . St. John ch 3. This is the only way to heaven amen.
  • Joe Ann on Philippians 2:2
    What does it mean to fulfill his joy can you explain the whole verse
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 8:9
    I don't understand your meaning of "the mark on christians". Are you referring to something that some Christians supposedly put on the outside, e.g. a cross, Jesus pendant, etc.? Or, maybe you're referring to Ephesians 1:13,14: where we have been sealed (or, marked & secured) by the Holy Spirit as God's Own?

    However, the mark of the Beast, though we can't say for sure how it will be evident, seems to be an identifier on the skin or maybe under it, that reveals a person's decided position to follow & obey the rule of Anti-Christ. And this most will gladly do, so that they can still "buy & sell" & presumably lead somewhat normal lives, without being victimized or suffer hardship or even death.
  • Donna Vargas - in Reply on Galatians 3
    That is what I thought however we do not have a pastor at this time and the church is considering an interim pastor but is a woman. We are Baptist, church is Baptist but reads out of the NIV. We are a very small church and most of us are over 70. What do you suggest. They don't seem to be having a problem with a woman preaching. Thank you for taking time for me.

  • Peggy - in Reply on Psalms 75
    All will be revealed at the 7th trumpet.

    Revelation 10:7
  • Chris - in Reply on Hosea 8:4
    Marilyn, just another question for you (aside from the present discussion), since you mentioned a cross reference of Jeremiah 3:23 to Genesis 3:12. Since I'm still trying to place your understanding of the Bible with what is normally understood by others, & of course taking into account your earlier mention of the pastor who shared some things with you that greatly upset you, I therefore ask you:

    What is this Study Bible that you are reading from? Most Bibles will have another name, or at least mentioned within its early pages, give an indication of who has put it together. I mentioned earlier that mine is the KJV Ryrie Study Bible; anyone familiar with Bibles will immediately know the name as Charles C. Ryrie, a department Chairman, from the Dallas Theological Seminary. And if astute enough, they will probably know my theological position on a number of doctrines & teachings. But your interpretation of Scripture, it's cross references, & indeed your focus on perverted sin, tells me that your Bible is 'different' to what most of us read from. Would you care to oblige me this information? Thank you.
  • Rod - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Hi Connie, I just read your story, and had to read it a number of times and can only imagine some of the trauma you must have suffered as a child, what you call blind faith I would call faith, that of a child, by your own admission your love for God is first in your life, and this is what God asks of us. Thank you and God Bless

    Matthew 5:3-18 Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled."

    Matthew 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

    Matthew 22:36-39 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
  • SkipVought - in Reply on John 6:53
    Greetings, Tiffany.

    The Bible IS meant to be read, studied, meditated on, discussed, acted on and obeyed. And probably many other action verbs.

    It is The Word of God. Jesus said, "If ye love me, keep my commandments."Joh 14:15. How can you know what His commandments are unless you read the whole thing?

    The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul:

    the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

    The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart:

    the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.

    The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever:

    the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

    More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold:

    sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

    Moreover by them is thy servant warned:

    and in keeping of them there is great reward.

    Who can understand his errors?

    cleanse thou me from secret faults.

    Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins;

    let them not have dominion over me:

    then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

    Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

    Psalms 19:7-14

    If you got a love letter from your fianc, would you just open it up and randomly read a sentence and then put it away until you wanted another shot of love? No! I can tell that you're excited about becoming Mrs. Basile Johns III, and have devoured every bit of knowledge about what he likes and doesn't like and dozens, neigh scores if not hundreds of things about him that enchant you.

    What of The Love Letter, so to speak, from God, that tells of His love for us and the extent to which He has and is going and what He is preparing for us and how He wants you and me to be ambassadors for Him. Can you imagine that?!

    Read it every day not just going to where you are lead, using it like a ouija board.
  • Ezekiel - in Reply on Romans 8:9
    Brother Richard? Ezekiel again. It is waste of time to search Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic languages. You won't enhance your understanding of scripture and I heard about 5,000 Greek manuscript fragments, most of them corrupt. We have Strong's Hebrew and Greek words attached to every word in KJV. They are enough for me. I do not need to learn about them. In my Bible software, I can find how a Hebrew or Greek word was translated differently, and yes the same word was translated differently into different English words.

    I have studied KJV for the last 10 years, wrote complete Bible annotations (I don't call them Bible commentary anymore), came up with some new theologies, and ready to preach and start my own ministry--a conservative church, many old hymn singing with piano and/or organ (no drum or guitar), men wearing suits and women skirts, Sunday morning and evening, and midweek service. Sounds familiar? Can't find a church like it these days easily, huh, can we?

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