Paul was unmarried and so many more prophets and early teachers. Would you not allow CHRIST in as a deacon? HE was never married. Would you not allow Paul who wrote majority of NT not in as a deacon? You sure would lose out some great men who GOD had chosen to serve.
No they are super human and it was an and will be an abomination for it is un-natural for them to do so but they did and their sentence is death by a consuming fire.
Chris do you not realize what you are saying...You are in essence saying that IF the Kingdom of God is gona be with in US AS our lord said....Then we are like satan desiring to be Gods...Does not Rev 21 : 2 tells us John saw the Holy city The Kingdom of God, That New Jerusalem as a Bride adorned for her husband....Oh but this woman is of the devil desiring to be God according to Chris.
.....Chris do you not understand that if the very Kingdom of God is gonna be with in us we will be Gods period...There is no way we cannot be Gods if the very Kingdom of God is gona be with in us...Can you not understand that we are gona be made 1 with God in a marriage of the lamb of God in Christ Jesus...Chris think b/f you make a statement like that...You are in essence fighting real salvation when ya make a false statement like that....All the evil rulers in the O.T. ARE LIKE THE BRIDE DESIRING TO BE God according to you Christ....but GBU
The dead in Is. 14:9 is the Rephaim the fallen that joined Satan at his fall and refused to be born of woman; the 7k already sentenced to die(Rev.11) because they refused to be born of women and take part in this age but instead left their 1st estate to seduce women just as Satan did starting with Eve. Nephilim=fallen ones; naphal=to fall = resulting in Giants- mix flesh women with fallen angels and the whole purpose of the flood of Noah for every flesh in the region, except Noah and his family were corrupted. Noah and his family were the only pure pedigree at time of flood. When fallen angels were here de facto their spiritual bodies (ruach) had mass and they also ate manna-angels food. They were able to seduce women where they had male organs to do so. They are locked in chains in darkness( Jud 1:6) awaiting judgement ( 2 Pet. 2:4) where they can no longer intermix and will be loosed again for 5 months picking up where they left off as in the days of Noah giving and taking in marriage at the 6th trump. Their spirits can still entice and possess people as can Satans but their true spirit bodies the Hebr. Ruach, the solid spirit can no longer come forth where they can seduce women and sire giants. For the purpose of this age man and woman were made and we are made in our own image; Born from above to populate this age in our own spiritual image. Once all souls are born from above then heaven will be rolled up until White throne judgement and kingdom set up in new Jerusalem. The angel of GOD wrestled with Abraham, 2 angels pulled Lot into his house for examples that they do have mass. Just a short narrative!!
I am a concerned mom, my daughter is over weight and I can't get her to see or understand the health risks she may face one day because of it. I have approached this matter with her in many ways ranging from us together doing a daily work-out, fasting 1/2 days occasionally and getting medical attention from her primary physician, all have failed. Well know I am taking a religious approach because we both have a great connection with God. I need a good scripture that relates to over eating or eating in excess etc.
Hi Barry. Taking a direct translation from the Hebrew, Genesis 9:4 would read as: 'But flesh with its life blood you shall not eat'. This was now the allowance given to the surviving humans from the flood that they were permitted to eat the flesh of animals but not to include its blood. The blood was to be first drained out & then the meat cooked, for the blood represented the life of the animal (the life that God alone gives), as it also applies to the shedding of human blood, i.e. taking of life ( Genesis 9:5,6). In many countries, animal blood is consumed, whether taken directly or cooked/turned into another form. We need to bear this in mind when contemplating such foods presented to us.
Spencer you do greatly err...Christ can only come into us by the new Birth,..Its that good Seed that forms Christ in us...And we are bornagain by that good seed, an intimacy...He has to know us..Thats y he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN ...MANKIND needs to be fruitful and Marry Christ and bring forth fruit unto God... Romans 7 : 4 kjv...Being bornagain of an incorruptible SEED etc...MY lil children of whom i travail in Birth till Christ is FORMED IN YOU... Gal 4 : 19...When Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the H.G. That Child of Promise that is Born in us via his good seed...THE LIVING WORD...Giving us a new innerman...Thats y Jesus is saying unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in NO WISE ENTER THERE IN...Thats y he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN...Simply b/c mankind needs to birth baby Christ which is the H.G the Child of Promise..
.....And Spencer you mention that we cannot be Gods...When the bible mentions several times we will be married to Christ...And a marriage is when 2 are made 1...That was our lord's prayer that God wd make them 1 as we are 1... John 17... Isaiah 62 : 5 As A Young man marries a virgin so shall thy Sons marry thee...As the Bridegroom rejoices over the bride So shall thy God rejoice over thee.
.....Remember when he spat on the ground and made CLAY OF THE SPITTLE... John 9 : 6 ...His spit was his Word and the ground was humanity...He made a Marriage of the ground and his Word...The Clay was a new Creature...part God and part man...If any man be in Christ Jesus he is a new Creature...Mankind and God are gonna be enjoined as in a Marriage....Thus we will share his Glory....We are gonna be made 1 with God Almighty BY HIS Word...I have said ye are Gods... Psalms 82 : 6...Thus the seed of the Sower which are the WORDS of God that are gonna make us Gods...As Jesus said to whom the word came( his seed ) it made them Gods...And the scripture cannot be broken..SAYS OUR LORD.
Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
We all brides of CHRIST if you want to go that far, but it is a spiritual analogy. All gender will be done away with in the Kingdom to come. There will be no giving or taking in marriage!!
As far as I am concerned my opinion is that it is clear that elders as well as deacons must be married. It is also written that they must be one wife's husband, that is not remarried. Also their children must be in faith as well. The scriptures is clear about them been able to govern their house so to be able to minister the church. There are other ministries given by God that do not require a person to be married, like apostles, evangelists, teachers... But for elders and deacons it is a must according to the written Will of God. As I see it ...
Hi Suze. You are correct, as you noted that Isaiah chapter 14 is written against the King of Babylon (just as Ezekiel chapter 28 pertains to the Prince/King of Tyre/Tyrus).
In both accounts, you will note that those monarchs were elevated to an incredibly high position, both in terms of their kingdoms (Babylonia & Phoenicia), their wealth & power, & also in their own eyes. Yet, we see some strange descriptions of them which simply cannot be applied to an earthly ruler (e.g. falling from Heaven, I will ascend into Heaven, exalt my throne above the stars of God. And to Tyre: having been in Eden, anointed cherub, perfect in all thy ways till iniquity was found in thee).
Some see that none other than earthly rulers are spoken of here, but others see the reason for their pride, belief in their invincibility, & eventual downfall of these kings as pertaining to the spirit that controlled them. It is as when Jesus spoke against Peter ( Matthew 16:23); Jesus was certainly looking at Peter, but heard Satan's voice coming through again (as in Matthew 4:3-10), a spirit pressing Peter to blurt out those words that were in opposition to Jesus' Words that the Cross was truly God's Plan. When one utters words that are contrary to God's Word, believing them to be true, those words are Satan-generated, for the enemy will always seek to distort the Truth (remember Eden?).
Even Jesus spoke about Satan's fall from Heaven in John 10:18, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven", though unsure whether Jesus specifically quoted the Isaiah passage. Yet, there was that occasion when Satan & his angels were cast out from Heaven ( Revelation 12:9; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6). Therefore, I too understand that those OT passages have references to both those rulers, but also to the satanic spirit that moved in them, hence the very specific references to Satan being cast out as well. And yet, Satan will once again manifest himself mightily in the person of Anti-Christ ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4).
Reply to Randy Lee Williamson. I don't agree with the assumption that the sons of God were angels who had sex with humans. Angels are not human. They are spirits and spirits cannot have sex with women.
Hi , isn't the Lucifer of Isaiah Ch 14 actually the king of Babylon ? In my KJV , the chapter heading over Ch 14 says : A triumph over Babylon . That's what the chapter is honestly called in my AV KJV. V 4 : Thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon...
Hi Terri, I concur with Chris and would like to add this verse that Paul was unmarried, wrote many books of the Bible, and was one of the most effective Christian evangelists in history. It certainly wasn't an obstacle for serving the Lord. 1 Corinthians 7:8
Hello Terri. The Scripture that speaks of what you're asking is in 1 Timothy 3:12: "Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well."
I understand that this verse does not necessarily imply that deacons (as with elders) must be married. Rather, that to hold such offices in the Church there should be no evidence of any polygamy or having been in a divorce, that his marriage & devotion must only be towards his wife & none else. Of course, marriage was the preferred state to be in (for various reasons in such a ministry), but being single should not disqualify a deacon from holding that office.
In Gen 6, the Word makes it clear that "fallen" (angels or men) had sex with women who bore them sons, which were giants, and the population of giants took off and became large. Why can't people simply believe what is written?
Genesis 9:4 refers to all animals. God is giving Adam a rule that if he wants to eat an animal, he is not to eat the animal's blood, because the blood is the life of the animal that sustains it.
God does communicate with us through his word in the Bible. his word is alive, he says "I am the way, the truth and the life." "He who believes in me shall not perish but have everlasting life." also, he states in John 14:15 If you love, me keep my commandments.
We only have to believe in his word then we will fully understand that he is talking to us. those that seek him, he is calling them. We have to keep his commandments in our hearts " Exodus 20," then repent of all our wrongdoing, then little by little he will talk to your heart and will prepare you to fully understand his wonderful love.
Yes! the Angels are present even though you may not see them when you believe in the Gospel. They are holy spirits who minister under God and are messengers and deliver God's people from danger just like how Psalm 91:11 says.
The Sabbath is a commandment of God. In the book of " Exodus 20" the 4th commandment. It says "remember to keep the Sabbath, six days you shall do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath, you shall keep it holy unto your God. Sunday is the first day of the week. the Sabbath starts from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday.
It helps if you describe briefly what kind of warfare you're going through. It can be physical, mental or emotional or spirits.
I went through the whole list. With Jesus inside of you, "they" know their time is over. Satan will accuse that you are not saved! That hurts but is not the Truth. I tell everyone to write the date of salvation in your Bible. "It is written!"
LUKE 11:24-26
Christ sends the evil spirits away. But if we neglect feeding on the Bible frequently; building up our most holy faith..
The spirits may return: Luke 11:24-26 (the stronger man is Jesus 11:21). You must furnish yourself with Bible, Praise, and Assembling with the church folk)
A reading list for you:
Ephesians 6
* Acts 19:19
Galatians 3:13
Luke 6:28
Matthew 5:44
Ephesians 2:13
The angels are sent by God, so we can ask in prayer for their presence in our homes. Act on the promises of the Lord. God wants us to go on from being milk fed baby Christians, to stand up and be warriors of FAITH in ahi's Word.
Commandments; if they were a NATURAL thing to do wouldn't need the Spirit of God to accomplish; merely our own efforts.
The meaning behind the commandments that Christ illustrates; such as that of lust and murder clearly point out the intentions of our heart as being part of what is within that produces BAD fruit in unregenerate men.
Cutting right to the chase; as Zechariah 3:3 and other verses state we have filthy garments when sin has contaminated us; and it seems clear even as believers this can happen. Our righteous deeds are as filthy rags ( Isaiah 64:6) and we need to understand that all of our love and affections also are self centered without Christ. Once we recognize our helpless state; then we can as Isaiah state "woe to me; I am undone." ( Isaiah 6:5). At that point then we can BEGIN to do the works of righteousness He has prepared for us from the foundation of the earth ( Eph. 2:10).
Then; of course we have to heed to sins not just of commission but OMISSION. And also avoiding things that are grey areas that may offend a brother or if we know to do good and don't do it is sin ( James 4:17). We can therefore; never do the law perfectly; and it must be done with the Holy Spirit within us.
Without the Spirit; even those things which are specifically warned against will; as man becomes increasingly blind be succumbed to; as wickedness increases; consciousness becomes seared even Israel was seduced to follow foreign gods warned against and they sacrificed their children to Molech; and worshipped idols. The teachers of the law became hypocrites; "sons of hell" as Jesus referred them to. And we can't follow the 1st Commandment on our own strength; or love the law as Psalm 119 the longest psalm in scripture indicates in the whole passage. Yes; as Christians if we love Him we obey His commandments.
We also TRUST God that these are what is best for us; even if as with human fathers it is not enjoyable in the short term.
Adam is the father of Cain. He is the father of all humanity, read the book of Genesis in the Bible. God, the everlasting Father, made all things good for the purpose of man's happiness here on earth. Sin was first introduced to Adam and Eve by the devil, because of their disobedience to God, when God told them specifically not to eat a certain fruit in the garden of Eden. this was why the sin perpetrated to his son Cain.
.....Chris do you not understand that if the very Kingdom of God is gonna be with in us we will be Gods period...There is no way we cannot be Gods if the very Kingdom of God is gona be with in us...Can you not understand that we are gona be made 1 with God in a marriage of the lamb of God in Christ Jesus...Chris think b/f you make a statement like that...You are in essence fighting real salvation when ya make a false statement like that....All the evil rulers in the O.T. ARE LIKE THE BRIDE DESIRING TO BE God according to you Christ....but GBU
Thanks
Concerned Mom
.....And Spencer you mention that we cannot be Gods...When the bible mentions several times we will be married to Christ...And a marriage is when 2 are made 1...That was our lord's prayer that God wd make them 1 as we are 1... John 17... Isaiah 62 : 5 As A Young man marries a virgin so shall thy Sons marry thee...As the Bridegroom rejoices over the bride So shall thy God rejoice over thee.
.....Remember when he spat on the ground and made CLAY OF THE SPITTLE... John 9 : 6 ...His spit was his Word and the ground was humanity...He made a Marriage of the ground and his Word...The Clay was a new Creature...part God and part man...If any man be in Christ Jesus he is a new Creature...Mankind and God are gonna be enjoined as in a Marriage....Thus we will share his Glory....We are gonna be made 1 with God Almighty BY HIS Word...I have said ye are Gods... Psalms 82 : 6...Thus the seed of the Sower which are the WORDS of God that are gonna make us Gods...As Jesus said to whom the word came( his seed ) it made them Gods...And the scripture cannot be broken..SAYS OUR LORD.
Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
We all brides of CHRIST if you want to go that far, but it is a spiritual analogy. All gender will be done away with in the Kingdom to come. There will be no giving or taking in marriage!!
GBU
As far as I am concerned my opinion is that it is clear that elders as well as deacons must be married. It is also written that they must be one wife's husband, that is not remarried. Also their children must be in faith as well. The scriptures is clear about them been able to govern their house so to be able to minister the church. There are other ministries given by God that do not require a person to be married, like apostles, evangelists, teachers... But for elders and deacons it is a must according to the written Will of God. As I see it ...
GBU
In both accounts, you will note that those monarchs were elevated to an incredibly high position, both in terms of their kingdoms (Babylonia & Phoenicia), their wealth & power, & also in their own eyes. Yet, we see some strange descriptions of them which simply cannot be applied to an earthly ruler (e.g. falling from Heaven, I will ascend into Heaven, exalt my throne above the stars of God. And to Tyre: having been in Eden, anointed cherub, perfect in all thy ways till iniquity was found in thee).
Some see that none other than earthly rulers are spoken of here, but others see the reason for their pride, belief in their invincibility, & eventual downfall of these kings as pertaining to the spirit that controlled them. It is as when Jesus spoke against Peter ( Matthew 16:23); Jesus was certainly looking at Peter, but heard Satan's voice coming through again (as in Matthew 4:3-10), a spirit pressing Peter to blurt out those words that were in opposition to Jesus' Words that the Cross was truly God's Plan. When one utters words that are contrary to God's Word, believing them to be true, those words are Satan-generated, for the enemy will always seek to distort the Truth (remember Eden?).
Even Jesus spoke about Satan's fall from Heaven in John 10:18, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven", though unsure whether Jesus specifically quoted the Isaiah passage. Yet, there was that occasion when Satan & his angels were cast out from Heaven ( Revelation 12:9; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6). Therefore, I too understand that those OT passages have references to both those rulers, but also to the satanic spirit that moved in them, hence the very specific references to Satan being cast out as well. And yet, Satan will once again manifest himself mightily in the person of Anti-Christ ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4).
4. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat
I understand that this verse does not necessarily imply that deacons (as with elders) must be married. Rather, that to hold such offices in the Church there should be no evidence of any polygamy or having been in a divorce, that his marriage & devotion must only be towards his wife & none else. Of course, marriage was the preferred state to be in (for various reasons in such a ministry), but being single should not disqualify a deacon from holding that office.
We only have to believe in his word then we will fully understand that he is talking to us. those that seek him, he is calling them. We have to keep his commandments in our hearts " Exodus 20," then repent of all our wrongdoing, then little by little he will talk to your heart and will prepare you to fully understand his wonderful love.
I went through the whole list. With Jesus inside of you, "they" know their time is over. Satan will accuse that you are not saved! That hurts but is not the Truth. I tell everyone to write the date of salvation in your Bible. "It is written!"
LUKE 11:24-26
Christ sends the evil spirits away. But if we neglect feeding on the Bible frequently; building up our most holy faith..
The spirits may return: Luke 11:24-26 (the stronger man is Jesus 11:21). You must furnish yourself with Bible, Praise, and Assembling with the church folk)
A reading list for you:
Ephesians 6
* Acts 19:19
Galatians 3:13
Luke 6:28
Matthew 5:44
Ephesians 2:13
The angels are sent by God, so we can ask in prayer for their presence in our homes. Act on the promises of the Lord. God wants us to go on from being milk fed baby Christians, to stand up and be warriors of FAITH in ahi's Word.
The meaning behind the commandments that Christ illustrates; such as that of lust and murder clearly point out the intentions of our heart as being part of what is within that produces BAD fruit in unregenerate men.
Cutting right to the chase; as Zechariah 3:3 and other verses state we have filthy garments when sin has contaminated us; and it seems clear even as believers this can happen. Our righteous deeds are as filthy rags ( Isaiah 64:6) and we need to understand that all of our love and affections also are self centered without Christ. Once we recognize our helpless state; then we can as Isaiah state "woe to me; I am undone." ( Isaiah 6:5). At that point then we can BEGIN to do the works of righteousness He has prepared for us from the foundation of the earth ( Eph. 2:10).
Then; of course we have to heed to sins not just of commission but OMISSION. And also avoiding things that are grey areas that may offend a brother or if we know to do good and don't do it is sin ( James 4:17). We can therefore; never do the law perfectly; and it must be done with the Holy Spirit within us.
Without the Spirit; even those things which are specifically warned against will; as man becomes increasingly blind be succumbed to; as wickedness increases; consciousness becomes seared even Israel was seduced to follow foreign gods warned against and they sacrificed their children to Molech; and worshipped idols. The teachers of the law became hypocrites; "sons of hell" as Jesus referred them to. And we can't follow the 1st Commandment on our own strength; or love the law as Psalm 119 the longest psalm in scripture indicates in the whole passage. Yes; as Christians if we love Him we obey His commandments.
We also TRUST God that these are what is best for us; even if as with human fathers it is not enjoyable in the short term.
Agape.