Here is my understanding of Matthew 13:58. It says He did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. What I notice is that it does not say that He went in and did mighty works, and because of their lack of faith nothing happened. For me, that doesn't even apply!
What I see is that He didn't do anything there because of their unbelief. Why? Because the signs and the miracles Jesus performed were supposed be a sign to point them to Christ. But He saw that it would do no good. He saw the condition of their hearts.
There are people today that use this verse in the wrong context. They say that the Lord can't work in your life His mighty works because of your unbelief, or your lack of faith. But that's not what it says here.
In Luke Chapter 1, Zacharias had unbelief. In fact, the angel Gabriel said to him that because of your unbelief, because you do not believe my words which will happen at their appointed time, and please note this because it is very important to know that his unbelief couldn't stop God's will from being done. The angel says because of that, you will be mute and unable to speak until these things take place.
It seems to me that Zacharias dictated to God what God must do to get him to line up to believe. But it didn't stop God. It is impossible to stop God from working. God says this is going to happen to you Zacharias, but you do not believe that this will happen because you are looking at the human condition.
You and your wife are beyond the age of bearing children. So you will be mute and unable speak. You will just be a bystander. I want you to watch the work of God. And after nine months, his tongue was loosed, and he began to praise God, and he began to prophesy over that child. Now he is lined up. He didn't stop God from working because of his unbelief or lack of faith. "He did not do any mighty works there because of their unbelief."
Hello Zak...May i give ya my version of John 16 : 13 KJV....He cannot speak of himself is b/c he is a baby, a new born...Remember Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. that Child of PROMISE....Unless ya receive the Kingdom of GOD AS A LIL CHILD a New Born. ..You will in no wise enter there in.
Thus he cannot speak of himself....He is just a living baby Spirit an infant which is the H.G...When Paul mentions that NEW BORN desireing the sincere milk of the word thats the H.G. Emanuel God with us....A baby Christ..an infant .Simply b/c our new innerman has to be born in us via the seed of Christ Jesus which is the H.G. ...They don't refer to Jesus as the bridegoom for nothin...He wants to sow a seed in us initiating a birth of Christ in us...That New Born babe is the H.G. that cannot speak of himself....He is just an infant....I will give babes to rule over them and Children shall be their Princes.... Isaiah 3 : 4 kjv
......Thats y he always refers to himself as the son of man...She brought forth aman Child that is gonna rule all nations...Which
As one who lived after Christ and the preaching of the Gospel, I agree with your point of view in your post.
In my post on Exodus 19 I was commenting from a viewpoint of these people who lived prior to our Savior's coming and the preaching of the gospel. Paul also says that the Law itself is holy, just, and good. Romans 7:12. But our sinful nature opposes what is given to us in God's holy, just, and good decrees, leading us to break these commands. Our rebellious sin brings death because our disobedience to the law condemns us. Even so, I believe that we should view the Law as Paul did, as a good thing given by God for his perfect purposes. It does not save us, but it does instruct us in what God's moral character is like and how perfect He is.
In this account in Exodus YHWH displays His awesomeness to the Israelites. It results in terror among the people and they vow to follow what He asks of them. But we know that they will fail to do this again and again, just as we do the same. Through their time wandering in the desert and up to their captivity in Babylon and Assyria, the Israelites continued to turn away from God and return to Him repeatedly. Through this they could have learned of His love, mercy and forgiveness for them. But, as history reveals, the people became more focused on the requirements of law-keeping than on knowing and following God Who gave them the Law out of His goodness. Jesus addressed this issue often with the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes, and Priests. Their hearts were hardened and were unable to receive their promised Messiah and the salvation that He wrought for them.
This event on and around Sinai has many lessons for us to learn. The Law(Sinai) reveals our sinfulness and inability to be perfect as God is perfect. It reveals our need for Savior. The condemnation of the Law on our sin drives us to seek Grace (Zion) where we can receive salvation-forgiveness of sins, right standing before God, and eternal life.
It's not your place to assume that anyone on here finds Alex's interpretations problematic , maybe you do but you do not speak for any one on here other than yourself . You definately don't speak for me . Your assumptions betray your arrogance . I'm sorry to say that to you but I can't bear the thought that you assume you are speaking for others . Your words and feelings are all yours .
Dear Alex, you have just proved my point in my last point.
By the way, I have only been on this forum since November. Perhaps your dating is off or maybe stating that i have been persecuting you for a year is hyperbole. Again, I say, I am not persecuting you. Nor am I demonizing you nor am I harassing you.
I have taken to heart your request that I not respond to your posts, yet you have responded to mine. I think it goes both ways, Alex. And in most cases I do not respond to your posts. But this is an open forum and just as I expect and accept that people are free to respond to what I post, others should have the same attitude. I try to give a reasoned response to others, including you. I do think that you continue to repeatedly post ideas that are contrary to the intended meaning of the many Scriptures you cite. And I know I am not alone in my concern here.
Alex, I do love you and care for your feelings on here. I am not intending to insult you or aggravate you. I do not question the validity of your faith in Christ nor your standing before God, as you have done of me and others who object to your way of interpreting Scripture. I do not question whether you have the Holy Spirit in you, like you have done to me and others who have refuted your views and Scriptural interpretation methods. And I have not referred to you as Satan, as you have done in this post to me.
Alex, I can see that your feelings are hurt by the post that S.Spencer wrote about the way you and others interpret Scripture or you would not have responded to his post as you did. And your feelings are hurt that I responded to your post about this topic. This is a free forum and all on here are free to respond to any post that is submitted here. I don't think that picking and choosing who can respond to our posts and eliminating those we do not wish to do so reflects the spirit of this open forum.
Even so, I am glad to know how you feel on this matter however I will still exercise my freedom here.
It is somewhat perplexing to note that not many amongst billions of Christians of various denominations could discern the true meaning and interpretation of the verse John 16:13, among others, which Jesus Christ had prophesied and roughly interpreted by Bible translators as the "comforter/advocate/helper/friend, etc." in various books of the Bible. To allude the object of the prophecy only to the Holy Spirit is, to my mind, a crude attempt to ignore and by-pass the Truth. The phrase "for he shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak," already hint volumes of probability that the verse refers to a man and not to a Holy Spirit. It would be absurd to consider sending the Holy Spirit anew for such mission when all along it was already present even before Jesus began his ministry.
Moreover, the abovementioned phrase is confirmed in the Holy Qur'an's process of revelation. For being illiterate, Prophet Muhammad could not read what the "Holy Spirit" (Angel Gabriel) commanded him to. So, the whole Qur'an was dictated by the Angel Gabriel only for Muhammad to repeat what he hears being dictated to him. The few Christians (priests, ministers and church leaders) who had read and understood the Holy Qur'an, have all embraced Islam. Most, if not all, of the tasks referred to by Jesus to be undertaken by the one he would send through God Almighty, the Father, could not be handled by the Holy Spirit. It did not teach or bring anything new for the benefit of the disciples and lay Christians. All of the prophecies fitted hand-in-glove with the advent of Prophet Muhammad which not only glorified Jesus in the Qur'an, but including his mother, Mary.
Many people have tried to set dates on when Christ will return, and when the 7-year tribulation will begin. If your calculations are correct and this year passes by and the tribulation has not begun, then what? Do we set a different date? Many people in the past have set dates on the return of Christ, and those dates passed by with nothing happening. Are we even supposed to be setting dates on Christ's return?
If I may share this with you, in Matthew 24:34, it says, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." People have taken the word generation and some have said that a generation is 40 years, some say 70 years, and some say 120 years, and then they predict a date on when Christ will return, and those dates have come and gone. You have put 80 years from May 11, 1949 as the date Christ will return.
Well, the problem with that is that this word generation has no association with years at all. The word generation means race or kind of people. GENEA is the word, and it means a race or kind of people.
GENEA has nothing to do with years. It is a race or kind of people. Basically, what Jesus is saying here, is this kind or race of people, (the Jews), shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled. They are His elect. They are His protected people, His chosen people, and He will fulfill His promises to them.
I know that you and I disagree, but I also know this is of God.
Christ said I will set brother against brother, etc.
This has a PURPOSE.
NOTE: The notion that there is no Hell and no Satan comes from the same Evil source that told Eve she shall not surely die.
What was that source?
Who is this Satan?
In Genesis it says he is the most subtil of all the beast of the field.
Psalms says man differs not, than a beast of the field.
Man is the most SUBTIL, of the BEAST.
Job said Satan came in with man to present himself to God.
God ask Satan where he had been?
Satan said walking to and fro on the earth.
Satan is not a spirit, Satan is flesh.
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful (Satan the great deceiver) above all things, and desperately WICKED ...
2 Thessalonians 2:8 Then shall that WICKED be revealed ......and destroyed by God's words and God's coming, the indwelling of the Holy Ghost.
Revelation 12:8 And the earth helped the woman, and open her mouth (the Grave) and swallowed up the dragon ...
Revelation 20:1-2 Satan was bound in the GRAVE (pit) ...
Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expire (the age of grace) Satan shall be loosed out of his PRISON (the grave, the second resurrection). To deceive once more: these resurrected still have a heart of stone, the WICKED and deceived.
Then Judgement, and creation given a heart of flesh.
Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth (being raised back up) shall worship him, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LIFE of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world.
In Matthew and Luke, the Bible tells us that Jesus could not do many miracles in his home town because of their unbelief. Marks version is "could not do no mighty work" and Matthew is a little different it says "and he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief" A prosperity type preacher told me that we unleash the power of God. We bind things in heaven and earth and God can't do anything unless we let him. Kenneth Copeland also says this.
This preacher became angry with me because I disagreed with his interpretation of scripture. I told him Jesus said, when we ask God the Father for something and we doubt, he won't do it for us or he won't grant our request because we doubt or lack faith that he will do it. Its not that God can't but rather he won't because the person asking is doubting and that would be in violation of his word. If God says he won't if we doubt and we ask him doubting in our heart.....then he won't because he said he wouldn't!!!!! If he did anyway in spite or our doubt then he would be violating his own word!
My question to you is what is your interpretation? Jesus did not do many miracles because he couldn't because their lack of faith stripped him of his power or he would not because he already told us God the Father won't grant doubters their requests and if he did he would be violating his own word.
I was in the Romish church for 30 years of my life, but by God's grace, the power of His Spirit, and the finished work of Christ - He brought me out!
Over the years, as I have moved, traveled, or lived in various places, and found 'churches' to attend, I was sad to see so much talk about so many topics...but so little spoken about Jesus Himself! I was sad to see so many unnecessary activities promoted, instead of making true disciples of the Lamb. I saw so many churches winning people to the church itself, instead of winning souls to Jesus, as Paul did; Paul said he had espoused the Corinthian believers, not to himself or a belief system but to ONE, and that is, Jesus the Christ! HalleluJAH!
This morning, I was reading Luke 24 and the resurrection of Jesus. When Mary and the other women get to the tomb, the angel asked them, "Why do you seek the living among the dead?"
It is the same today; there ARE many good churches; I am NOT painting with an all-encompassing brush; but I tell you with a heavy heart, there are many "Sardis' churches out there who are dead or almost dead, and it is vain to seek the dead among the living!
WOW! And HALLELUJAH! I LOVED your last sentence, Gigi. That is a gem from on high. Praise God!
I remember a song we used to sing years nad years ago in a church I was in back then, and it is called, I believe, "Be Magnified, O Lord". One phrase laments, "I have made you too small in my eyes; O Lord, forgive me;..."
We tend to bring God down to our level in some ways. We want a God Who is 'manageable', Who we can completely understand, and Who will indulge our every whim and fancy.
We want a "Jesus' Who has a syrupy, greasy-graced kind of 'love', forgetting that God's threatenings are as much given to us in love as all of His gracious promises to us.
It indeed is a good thing to gaze at Sinai on our way to Zion.
God bless you dear sister....this was a great encouragement and wake-up...
Most catholics have manipulated Matthew 16:18 to define their "authority as the 'true' church." They claim that Jesus established a physical church (religion) in Peter and they also claim Peter became the first pope.
The truth:
Jesus renames his disciple Peter (Greek petros) and promises to found Messiah's church on "this rock" (Greek petra).We're all petra in a way because Jesus established the building of the body (the church...i.e. "all born again believers") on us because we looked at Christ an said, "You are Christ Jesus (which only the elect believe)."
Matthew 16:15 says "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Peter's response is the response of all born again and Christ acknowledges that and declares us as His the foundation for building His church here on Earth. Christ didn't come to build religion, he didn't come to build denominations but he came to establish His kingdom in us that are born again.
Another fallacy in the catholic teaching is that they state Peter was an equal rock to Christ and later became the first pope. Assuming the Roman's had accepted Peter this would sound true...but Peter was crucified upside down by the Romans on his final trip there. They never put Peter on a throne or honored him. As his name was Simon Peter -- there was another Peter in Rome during the time of Peter's matrydom. But that Simon was not a pope either. Most of catholicisms roots come from emperor Constantine. Their first pope would have actually been Linus (d. c. 67 - 80).
F.Y.I. -- I was raised in the rcc for 19-years and very involved. When I left the catholic church and became involved with ministries in non-denominational ministries...after many years and backbiting; I became born again and realized all the apostasy in catholicism.
It shows even in Exodus when the Law was ordained the outward cleansing couldn't get you into the presence of the LORD.
There was no new heart of flesh!
No rebirth, No death of the old man, Just symbolic cleansing and sacrifices that pointed forward to one coming and also even then highlighted the inability of man to cleanse himself from sin.
Our best efforts apart from Holyspirit cannot present us blameless, nor can it restore us!
We are cleansed, saved, sanctified and kept by the Spirit IN US.
This particular area of scripture is highlighted in Galatians 3:23-24. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
This is where the Law began.
Sometimes we loose sight that the Gospel was preached to Abraham 430 years before this point.
Galatians 3:17. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. So when we take in all of Galatians 3. with the giving of the law by Moses we see the purpose of the law and the reason why it is called the ministration of Death and Paul said when the Law was given it slew him.
Romans 7:7-11.
2 Corinthians 3:6-10.
The purpose of the law was in mind when it was first given and illustrated with the barriers in Exodus.
Those God GAVE to HIS Son Jesus, The CALLED and CHOSEN, were resurrected with Christ.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and Holy is he that hath PART in the first resurrection ....
Luke 20:34 Neither can they DIE ANYMORE: for they are equal unto the angels, and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.
Those not Called and not Chosen, will die and lay in the grave, along with those that have die from the beginning.
At the second resurrection EVERYONE in the graves will be resurrected back to their earthly flesh; AND JUDGED.
Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them (those at the second resurrection) the JUDGEMENT WRITTEN, this HONOUR hath all his SAINTS (those in the first resurrection).
Isaiah 26:9 .....when thy JUDGEMENTS are in the earth (second resurrection) the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature WAITETH (in the grave) for the MANIFESTATION of the Sons OF GOD (those in the first resurrection, that will be their JUDGES).
Romans 8:21 Because the creature ITSELF shall be DELIEVERED from the bondage of corruption (the grave) into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
1 Corinthians 15:28 ...that God may be ALL IN ALL.
"And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe."
These are those who do His will. The Angels of God!
The angels who bear the pruning shears until this time! Who do the will of the husbandman!
The vineyard is this place of growth, (the world) as Christ has said before, a place of the wheat and the tares!
We who know these things, understand who the messengers are ,and their purpose in the kingdom, for these are the workmanship of His will, for the sake of Christ ,who was made a little lower than these His Angels!
Profound is the message to those who are in the vine, who's confidence are in His words?
Are you listening, are you waiting, while the storms may come, as the lightening shines between us ,if only for a second and then go away, are you abiding still in the vine?
The times of restitution shall come as a thief in the night! If the Goodman of the house had known, He would have been ready!
Repent and be Baptized in the name of the Father ,and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Rev. 14;14
We have to keep in mind what Jesus said....I come not to destroy mens lives but to save mens lives...Its only our old adamic nature that man of sin...The tare....A type of Judas ...That is gonna be destroyed....Keep in mind that it is our God that is the Consuming fire which is his judgement...But his judgement is also his love for us....WHOM THE LORD LOVETH he chastens....Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire...Which is his baptism of the H.G and Fire...That Place of torment is only for satan and his angels and mans adamic nature which is in rank with satan....But Jesus has already chosen ALL OF US...You have not Chosen me but i have chosen you...@ THE CROSS VIA HIS BLOOD WE WERE ALL CHOSEN....Its just our old adamic nature that is in rank with satan that is not CHOSEN....God so loved the world...Every sinner has already been written in his blood...that BOOK that he wrote with his own blood....He washed everybody with his blood at Calvary.
Here is my understanding of Matthew 13:58. It says He did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. What I notice is that it does not say that He went in and did mighty works, and because of their lack of faith nothing happened. For me, that doesn't even apply!
What I see is that He didn't do anything there because of their unbelief. Why? Because the signs and the miracles Jesus performed were supposed be a sign to point them to Christ. But He saw that it would do no good. He saw the condition of their hearts.
There are people today that use this verse in the wrong context. They say that the Lord can't work in your life His mighty works because of your unbelief, or your lack of faith. But that's not what it says here.
In Luke Chapter 1, Zacharias had unbelief. In fact, the angel Gabriel said to him that because of your unbelief, because you do not believe my words which will happen at their appointed time, and please note this because it is very important to know that his unbelief couldn't stop God's will from being done. The angel says because of that, you will be mute and unable to speak until these things take place.
It seems to me that Zacharias dictated to God what God must do to get him to line up to believe. But it didn't stop God. It is impossible to stop God from working. God says this is going to happen to you Zacharias, but you do not believe that this will happen because you are looking at the human condition.
You and your wife are beyond the age of bearing children. So you will be mute and unable speak. You will just be a bystander. I want you to watch the work of God. And after nine months, his tongue was loosed, and he began to praise God, and he began to prophesy over that child. Now he is lined up. He didn't stop God from working because of his unbelief or lack of faith. "He did not do any mighty works there because of their unbelief."
Anyway, that's my understanding.
Hopefully these are helpful
Thus he cannot speak of himself....He is just a living baby Spirit an infant which is the H.G...When Paul mentions that NEW BORN desireing the sincere milk of the word thats the H.G. Emanuel God with us....A baby Christ..an infant .Simply b/c our new innerman has to be born in us via the seed of Christ Jesus which is the H.G. ...They don't refer to Jesus as the bridegoom for nothin...He wants to sow a seed in us initiating a birth of Christ in us...That New Born babe is the H.G. that cannot speak of himself....He is just an infant....I will give babes to rule over them and Children shall be their Princes.... Isaiah 3 : 4 kjv
......Thats y he always refers to himself as the son of man...She brought forth aman Child that is gonna rule all nations...Which
is the H.G....That Child of Promise.
It appears your backed by scripture
Acts 4:12,
True believers believe Jesus CHRIST
It's funny you have given scriptures to be examined literally!
However.
You have given 6 scriptures and added or taken away from each and misapplied them! What you seem to often put in parentheses is errored!
When confronted you hide behind spiritualation.
I'm not going to deal with all of them but here is an example of your errors.
You say "Job said Satan came in "WITH MAN" to present himself to God."
When has man ever been able to go to and fro the Earth?
When has man ever been able to present himself to God?
Answer. Never!
John 1:18.
John 6:46.
Here's that account in scripture.
Job 1:6. Now there was a day when the SONS OF GOD came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Sons of God in this passage are Angels.
Your view is that Satan is mans flesh. "He doesn't exist"
So who's responsible for Jobs losses? And who is God interacting with in Job 1. ?
I'm sorry but I can't entertain that.
My point is taken in your reply!
If there is no Satan, No hell, and no consequences for sin, There's no Gospel/Good news in your message
why do you passionately bother?
according to you whether we receive or not we suffer the same fate. Why was Christ crucified?
That is not a message from God.
No response needed
God bless.
As one who lived after Christ and the preaching of the Gospel, I agree with your point of view in your post.
In my post on Exodus 19 I was commenting from a viewpoint of these people who lived prior to our Savior's coming and the preaching of the gospel. Paul also says that the Law itself is holy, just, and good. Romans 7:12. But our sinful nature opposes what is given to us in God's holy, just, and good decrees, leading us to break these commands. Our rebellious sin brings death because our disobedience to the law condemns us. Even so, I believe that we should view the Law as Paul did, as a good thing given by God for his perfect purposes. It does not save us, but it does instruct us in what God's moral character is like and how perfect He is.
In this account in Exodus YHWH displays His awesomeness to the Israelites. It results in terror among the people and they vow to follow what He asks of them. But we know that they will fail to do this again and again, just as we do the same. Through their time wandering in the desert and up to their captivity in Babylon and Assyria, the Israelites continued to turn away from God and return to Him repeatedly. Through this they could have learned of His love, mercy and forgiveness for them. But, as history reveals, the people became more focused on the requirements of law-keeping than on knowing and following God Who gave them the Law out of His goodness. Jesus addressed this issue often with the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes, and Priests. Their hearts were hardened and were unable to receive their promised Messiah and the salvation that He wrought for them.
This event on and around Sinai has many lessons for us to learn. The Law(Sinai) reveals our sinfulness and inability to be perfect as God is perfect. It reveals our need for Savior. The condemnation of the Law on our sin drives us to seek Grace (Zion) where we can receive salvation-forgiveness of sins, right standing before God, and eternal life.
By the way, I have only been on this forum since November. Perhaps your dating is off or maybe stating that i have been persecuting you for a year is hyperbole. Again, I say, I am not persecuting you. Nor am I demonizing you nor am I harassing you.
I have taken to heart your request that I not respond to your posts, yet you have responded to mine. I think it goes both ways, Alex. And in most cases I do not respond to your posts. But this is an open forum and just as I expect and accept that people are free to respond to what I post, others should have the same attitude. I try to give a reasoned response to others, including you. I do think that you continue to repeatedly post ideas that are contrary to the intended meaning of the many Scriptures you cite. And I know I am not alone in my concern here.
Alex, I do love you and care for your feelings on here. I am not intending to insult you or aggravate you. I do not question the validity of your faith in Christ nor your standing before God, as you have done of me and others who object to your way of interpreting Scripture. I do not question whether you have the Holy Spirit in you, like you have done to me and others who have refuted your views and Scriptural interpretation methods. And I have not referred to you as Satan, as you have done in this post to me.
Alex, I can see that your feelings are hurt by the post that S.Spencer wrote about the way you and others interpret Scripture or you would not have responded to his post as you did. And your feelings are hurt that I responded to your post about this topic. This is a free forum and all on here are free to respond to any post that is submitted here. I don't think that picking and choosing who can respond to our posts and eliminating those we do not wish to do so reflects the spirit of this open forum.
Even so, I am glad to know how you feel on this matter however I will still exercise my freedom here.
A more appropriate response to Your question that reveals and affirms the Sovereignty of the Almighty GOD:
Romans 9:15
For He says to Moses: "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
So just know that no one will enter Heaven without GOD'S Approval, just as no one leaves this Earth without GOD'S Permission.
It is somewhat perplexing to note that not many amongst billions of Christians of various denominations could discern the true meaning and interpretation of the verse John 16:13, among others, which Jesus Christ had prophesied and roughly interpreted by Bible translators as the "comforter/advocate/helper/friend, etc." in various books of the Bible. To allude the object of the prophecy only to the Holy Spirit is, to my mind, a crude attempt to ignore and by-pass the Truth. The phrase "for he shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak," already hint volumes of probability that the verse refers to a man and not to a Holy Spirit. It would be absurd to consider sending the Holy Spirit anew for such mission when all along it was already present even before Jesus began his ministry.
Moreover, the abovementioned phrase is confirmed in the Holy Qur'an's process of revelation. For being illiterate, Prophet Muhammad could not read what the "Holy Spirit" (Angel Gabriel) commanded him to. So, the whole Qur'an was dictated by the Angel Gabriel only for Muhammad to repeat what he hears being dictated to him. The few Christians (priests, ministers and church leaders) who had read and understood the Holy Qur'an, have all embraced Islam. Most, if not all, of the tasks referred to by Jesus to be undertaken by the one he would send through God Almighty, the Father, could not be handled by the Holy Spirit. It did not teach or bring anything new for the benefit of the disciples and lay Christians. All of the prophecies fitted hand-in-glove with the advent of Prophet Muhammad which not only glorified Jesus in the Qur'an, but including his mother, Mary.
Many people have tried to set dates on when Christ will return, and when the 7-year tribulation will begin. If your calculations are correct and this year passes by and the tribulation has not begun, then what? Do we set a different date? Many people in the past have set dates on the return of Christ, and those dates passed by with nothing happening. Are we even supposed to be setting dates on Christ's return?
If I may share this with you, in Matthew 24:34, it says, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." People have taken the word generation and some have said that a generation is 40 years, some say 70 years, and some say 120 years, and then they predict a date on when Christ will return, and those dates have come and gone. You have put 80 years from May 11, 1949 as the date Christ will return.
Well, the problem with that is that this word generation has no association with years at all. The word generation means race or kind of people. GENEA is the word, and it means a race or kind of people.
GENEA has nothing to do with years. It is a race or kind of people. Basically, what Jesus is saying here, is this kind or race of people, (the Jews), shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled. They are His elect. They are His protected people, His chosen people, and He will fulfill His promises to them.
Thanks for adding 2 Timothy 2:15.
That's a fitting verse for the thread.
God bless.
I know that you and I disagree, but I also know this is of God.
Christ said I will set brother against brother, etc.
This has a PURPOSE.
NOTE: The notion that there is no Hell and no Satan comes from the same Evil source that told Eve she shall not surely die.
What was that source?
Who is this Satan?
In Genesis it says he is the most subtil of all the beast of the field.
Psalms says man differs not, than a beast of the field.
Man is the most SUBTIL, of the BEAST.
Job said Satan came in with man to present himself to God.
God ask Satan where he had been?
Satan said walking to and fro on the earth.
Satan is not a spirit, Satan is flesh.
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful (Satan the great deceiver) above all things, and desperately WICKED ...
2 Thessalonians 2:8 Then shall that WICKED be revealed ......and destroyed by God's words and God's coming, the indwelling of the Holy Ghost.
Revelation 12:8 And the earth helped the woman, and open her mouth (the Grave) and swallowed up the dragon ...
Revelation 20:1-2 Satan was bound in the GRAVE (pit) ...
Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expire (the age of grace) Satan shall be loosed out of his PRISON (the grave, the second resurrection). To deceive once more: these resurrected still have a heart of stone, the WICKED and deceived.
Then Judgement, and creation given a heart of flesh.
Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth (being raised back up) shall worship him, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LIFE of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world.
God Bless YOU!
This preacher became angry with me because I disagreed with his interpretation of scripture. I told him Jesus said, when we ask God the Father for something and we doubt, he won't do it for us or he won't grant our request because we doubt or lack faith that he will do it. Its not that God can't but rather he won't because the person asking is doubting and that would be in violation of his word. If God says he won't if we doubt and we ask him doubting in our heart.....then he won't because he said he wouldn't!!!!! If he did anyway in spite or our doubt then he would be violating his own word!
My question to you is what is your interpretation? Jesus did not do many miracles because he couldn't because their lack of faith stripped him of his power or he would not because he already told us God the Father won't grant doubters their requests and if he did he would be violating his own word.
Over the years, as I have moved, traveled, or lived in various places, and found 'churches' to attend, I was sad to see so much talk about so many topics...but so little spoken about Jesus Himself! I was sad to see so many unnecessary activities promoted, instead of making true disciples of the Lamb. I saw so many churches winning people to the church itself, instead of winning souls to Jesus, as Paul did; Paul said he had espoused the Corinthian believers, not to himself or a belief system but to ONE, and that is, Jesus the Christ! HalleluJAH!
This morning, I was reading Luke 24 and the resurrection of Jesus. When Mary and the other women get to the tomb, the angel asked them, "Why do you seek the living among the dead?"
It is the same today; there ARE many good churches; I am NOT painting with an all-encompassing brush; but I tell you with a heavy heart, there are many "Sardis' churches out there who are dead or almost dead, and it is vain to seek the dead among the living!
Selah.
Grace and peace in Christ!
Grace and peace in Jesus, Spencer!
I remember a song we used to sing years nad years ago in a church I was in back then, and it is called, I believe, "Be Magnified, O Lord". One phrase laments, "I have made you too small in my eyes; O Lord, forgive me;..."
We tend to bring God down to our level in some ways. We want a God Who is 'manageable', Who we can completely understand, and Who will indulge our every whim and fancy.
We want a "Jesus' Who has a syrupy, greasy-graced kind of 'love', forgetting that God's threatenings are as much given to us in love as all of His gracious promises to us.
It indeed is a good thing to gaze at Sinai on our way to Zion.
God bless you dear sister....this was a great encouragement and wake-up...
The truth:
Jesus renames his disciple Peter (Greek petros) and promises to found Messiah's church on "this rock" (Greek petra).We're all petra in a way because Jesus established the building of the body (the church...i.e. "all born again believers") on us because we looked at Christ an said, "You are Christ Jesus (which only the elect believe)."
Matthew 16:15 says "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Peter's response is the response of all born again and Christ acknowledges that and declares us as His the foundation for building His church here on Earth. Christ didn't come to build religion, he didn't come to build denominations but he came to establish His kingdom in us that are born again.
Another fallacy in the catholic teaching is that they state Peter was an equal rock to Christ and later became the first pope. Assuming the Roman's had accepted Peter this would sound true...but Peter was crucified upside down by the Romans on his final trip there. They never put Peter on a throne or honored him. As his name was Simon Peter -- there was another Peter in Rome during the time of Peter's matrydom. But that Simon was not a pope either. Most of catholicisms roots come from emperor Constantine. Their first pope would have actually been Linus (d. c. 67 - 80).
F.Y.I. -- I was raised in the rcc for 19-years and very involved. When I left the catholic church and became involved with ministries in non-denominational ministries...after many years and backbiting; I became born again and realized all the apostasy in catholicism.
It shows even in Exodus when the Law was ordained the outward cleansing couldn't get you into the presence of the LORD.
There was no new heart of flesh!
No rebirth, No death of the old man, Just symbolic cleansing and sacrifices that pointed forward to one coming and also even then highlighted the inability of man to cleanse himself from sin.
Our best efforts apart from Holyspirit cannot present us blameless, nor can it restore us!
We are cleansed, saved, sanctified and kept by the Spirit IN US.
This particular area of scripture is highlighted in Galatians 3:23-24. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
This is where the Law began.
Sometimes we loose sight that the Gospel was preached to Abraham 430 years before this point.
Galatians 3:17. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. So when we take in all of Galatians 3. with the giving of the law by Moses we see the purpose of the law and the reason why it is called the ministration of Death and Paul said when the Law was given it slew him.
Romans 7:7-11.
2 Corinthians 3:6-10.
The purpose of the law was in mind when it was first given and illustrated with the barriers in Exodus.
God bless.
There are TWO resurrections.
Those God GAVE to HIS Son Jesus, The CALLED and CHOSEN, were resurrected with Christ.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and Holy is he that hath PART in the first resurrection ....
Luke 20:34 Neither can they DIE ANYMORE: for they are equal unto the angels, and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.
Those not Called and not Chosen, will die and lay in the grave, along with those that have die from the beginning.
At the second resurrection EVERYONE in the graves will be resurrected back to their earthly flesh; AND JUDGED.
Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them (those at the second resurrection) the JUDGEMENT WRITTEN, this HONOUR hath all his SAINTS (those in the first resurrection).
Isaiah 26:9 .....when thy JUDGEMENTS are in the earth (second resurrection) the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature WAITETH (in the grave) for the MANIFESTATION of the Sons OF GOD (those in the first resurrection, that will be their JUDGES).
Romans 8:21 Because the creature ITSELF shall be DELIEVERED from the bondage of corruption (the grave) into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
1 Corinthians 15:28 ...that God may be ALL IN ALL.
God Bless YOU!
These are those who do His will. The Angels of God!
The angels who bear the pruning shears until this time! Who do the will of the husbandman!
The vineyard is this place of growth, (the world) as Christ has said before, a place of the wheat and the tares!
We who know these things, understand who the messengers are ,and their purpose in the kingdom, for these are the workmanship of His will, for the sake of Christ ,who was made a little lower than these His Angels!
Profound is the message to those who are in the vine, who's confidence are in His words?
Are you listening, are you waiting, while the storms may come, as the lightening shines between us ,if only for a second and then go away, are you abiding still in the vine?
The times of restitution shall come as a thief in the night! If the Goodman of the house had known, He would have been ready!
Repent and be Baptized in the name of the Father ,and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Rev. 14;14
Thanks, and so nice to hear from you, and the feeling is mutual, as I always look forward to reading your posts whenever I stop in here.
2 Peter 1:2
"Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,"
God Bless You!