Ezekiel 1-6 is prophecy about the third temple which being build by the people from the east 7 sonof man, the place of my throne,and the soles of my feet, where i will dwell in the midst of the children of israel forever and my holy name mshall the house of israel no more defile,neither they nor their kings by their whoredom,nor by the carcasses of their kings in their high places
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all prophecy was fulfilled first is the 2 temple then the destruction of israel and the 2nd temple by the roman empire.in 70 ad.
rome they are even proud of destruction of the temple, because they knew that they are destroying the legacy of jesus christ and god almighty. jerusalem will be desolate so prophecy trough the people from the east to build the 3rd temple.that's why he said in verse 1i remember you, and verse 7 israel total destruction
god almighty is giving all this wisdom look my input rev.11
Concerning the gospel, you said Gods gospel is I'M going to raise all the dead back to their flesh, here on EARTH, none of them KNOW ME, I need WORKERS for my vineyard. RIGHTEOUS JUDGES, to bring all the lost into my kingdom.
You said God's gospel is Come to MY TRUTH, and be a worker, a judge; INSTEAD OF being the ONE JUDGED.
I see no mention of the cross, or the death and resurrection of Christ! INFACT NO MENTION OF JESUS AT ALL!
And you call what we believe "is man's doctrine"!!
Earl, you said man's doctrine says, "believe and go to heaven, do not believe and go to hell". You gave it to us "LITERAL." You indicate that's man's doctrine, and you were once deceived also.
Jesus LITERALLY says the exact same thing here in Mark 16:16. "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
Note: Baptism is a result of one believing, that's why in the second part of that verse it says he who believe not shall be damned. It doesn't say who is not baptized shall be damned, or he believe not and is not baptized shall be damned. BELIEF HERE INITIATES EVERYTHING. (An argument for another day on baptism).
You call it deception if we believe what Jesus literally said! Who deceived us, Jesus?
I don't get your reasoning; you say we are deceived, but whether we believe or not we go to heaven. Show me anywhere in scripture where deception doesn't have consequences. What's the purpose on you working so hard on changing our beliefs when believing doesn't have no bearing on salvation?
You said I never answer your question about everyone going to heaven,
No one goes to heaven in the sense that the church believes.
Nowhere in the prophecies does it teach heaven is man's abode.
It teaches a Kingdom. This why the first children missed out. They were looking for the wrong kind of kingdom.
For sixty five years I believed exactly like you believe today.
I know, you know that the Holy Spirit works in each of as as HE sees fit.
Christ shut every door, and caused me to spend hundreds of hours studying mostly the Law and Prophets.
I come to understand that repentance has more to do with coming to truth than sins of the flesh; already forgiven.
I had to repent hundreds of times.
I though I had found truth; and then a scripture would contradict what I believed, I would repent of that belief.
Then over and over repenting, till the scriptures aligned together.
What make the difference in our beliefs is whether we are in the first resurrection of the second resurrection.
I can tell you from my experience in the Holy Spirit teaching me; until I repented of my belief in hell, and that all would be children of God, very little truth was revealed to me.
I don't see anything humorous about it. We're being warned we are about to fall into a ditch. I find Jesus's teachings, serious, on target and kinda fatherly. Not many people remember the old saying, "Little pitchers have big ears."
What does Mark 9:43 mean?
Jesus' words about a vague sin committed by a concrete body part parallels how scholars at that time spoke of concrete sins committed by an abstract body part, such as the heart. In Jesus' manner of speaking, the emphasis is placed on the choice, the action, and the responsibility of the perpetrator. The "hand" is a metaphor for the way in which the heart may lead the person to do something sinful. [like don't send your 5yr old into the house to get daddy another beer]
The transition from Jesus' warning about causing others to sin in verse 42 is not as abrupt as it appears. Just as our heart may cause our hand to commit a sinful act, so it may cause a child or a younger Christian to commit a sinful act. Both require that we take serious steps to prevent our hearts from sinning.
The term translated as "hell" in English is literally tn geennan. This is a reference to the Valley of Hinnom, the dump outside of Jerusalem where animal carcasses and other waste was burned. During the times of the worst idolatry in Israel, parents sacrificed their children to Molech by placing them in glowing-hot metal statues ( Jeremiah 7:31; 19:5; 32:35). Good king Josiah tore down the altars and dedicated the valley to the burning of offal ( 2 Kings 23:10).
To "enter life" doesn't refer to being born. As "hell" means eternal punishment, "life" means eternal paradise for those who are saved by Christ. Jesus isn't giving a detailed description of eternity, here. Like in Matthew 5, He's illustrating how impossible it is to keep from sinning. Our resurrected bodies will not reflect the hardships we experienced in this life. Paul describes our new bodies as imperishable, glorified, and empowered ( 1 Corinthians 15:42-49)
In 1 Corinthians 5 and to a lesser degree, 2 Thess. 3:6-7, references are made to those who are disorderly or rebellious in nature. within the body of Christ. Church discipline in the 21st century is, for the most part, avoided or willingly ignored. I teach a Bible study group at our church and have a woman who years ago forsook living with her then-boyfriend after feeling conviction from a sermon she heard. Her repentance was evidence to us of her willingness to follow Christ. Then, several years after that and a new preacher taking over the pulpit at our church, she got a new boyfriend and subsequently moved in with him. Today she attends church regularly and continues to come to my Bible study before the regular church service. I have had conversations with her about her current lifestyle and the truth that she is no longer following Jesus, just her desires. Her end will not be the kingdom of God. She has said she wants to marry, but he (boyfriend) hasn't felt the need to.
The Word of God is full of those who had to make very difficult decisions to obey and follow God, no matter what. My wife reminded me that I should not 'judge' her since I sin every day too. I reminded her that's true, but the difference is the fact that my daily sins/transgressions vary in nature and frequency. The sins of those described in Corinthians and Thessalonians involve a lifestyle choice and a flagrant disregard for the things (commands, ordinances) of God. Those others in the class know of her situation and are concerned also. I'm trying to contact our Pastoral staff and find out what they recommend. Personally, I think this calls for tough love. Matthew 13 refers to Christ's parable of the wheat and tares. Maybe this is the one that leaves an 'out' for those uncomfortable with the topic of church discipline. May God help us and enlighten us by His Holy Spirit to learn the differences and proper utilization of them within the church itself.
Saul's original name had been changed to paul . jesus christ chose paul to be our apostle for the church age. to to the jews and gentiles of whomever. jesus christ gave the apostle paul a revelation being the gospel of salvation that god will use ( 1 corinthians 15:1-4 ) to judge the church comprised of jews or gentiles or whoever who believes the cospel of salvation ( 1corinthians15:1-4 ) you must believe in your heart that jesus died for your sins by shedding his blood on the cross of calvary, was buried, and rose again on the third day according to the scripyure to be saved and have everlasting life. jesus christ manifested in the flesh ( 1 tim 3:16) loved you enough to die in your place for your sins. jesus christ had already died shedding his blood for our sins whereas the gospel for salvation john preached to the jews 2000 years ago ( john 3:16) preaching that god gave his son that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. what should they believe when john preached to the jews of israel john 3:16 ? ought they believe that christ was given to them that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,but have everlasting life. this is correct because jesus christ had not been crucified, but the church of the church age will be judged by the gospel of salvation ( 1 cor. 15:1-4) revealed to paul from a revelation from jesus christ for their salvation having everlasting life, whether you be a jew or a gentile. remember god will do the judging, otherwise if you do not trust in the shed blood of jesus christ on the cross of calvary then pay the penalty yourslf and burn in the lake of fire in torment for eternally! that will be your price you will have to pay for not trusting and believing your substitute jesus christ dying, shedding his blood on the cross of calvary .
john 3:16 was preached to the jews of israel. thid is correct because john was preaching to the jews of isreal 2000 years ago and jesus christ had not been crucified yet. these jews at that time demanded signs and wonders. that was the purpose john the baptist said what he preached in john 3:16. he was directing those jews to jesus 2000 years ago to believe and have faith in jesus to have salvation. At that time jesus christ had not died shedding his blood on the cross of calvary for man's sins. just like jesus chose John to be the apostle to teach and preach to the jews of that time 2000 years ago, jesus chose paul whose name was changed to paul to be our apostle of today to teach and preach to jews and gentiles, and the church and whosoever 1 corinthians 15: 1-4 (jessus christ had then died on the cross shedding his blood on the cross of calvary for the remissions of sin. yoy must trust jesus christ as your savior today by faith in shed blood. Jesus Christ manifested in the flesh (1 ti9m 3:16 loved you enough to die in your place for your sins.
Right now, were talking not sharing scripture. OK? We don't agree on scripture at all. I can respect a conversation with you if you desire to have it. Alex doesn't talk to me; he responds to me, but Hes actually is talking to the forum.
I believe you are responding after reading what I wrote to sister Gigi. "But I will read and perhaps engage if he or Earl gave an answer to what I've asked several times."
Again, here is what I'm asking.
"If a every sinner goes to heaven whether they believe or not, why is it that they work so hard to pitch their point of view. Why is it so important to them that their message is accepted when salvation is never at stake?
We believe what we preach is vital to salvation and one's salvation is at stake pending on one's belief.
Your belief is the complete opposite, (all will be saved no matter what.)
You stated. "God GOSPEL is, I'M going to raise all the dead back to their flesh, here on EARTH, none of them KNOW ME, I need WORKERS for my vineyard. RIGHTEOUS JUDGES, to bring all the lost into my kingdom.
God's gospel is Come to MY TRUTH, and be a worker, a judge; INSTEAD OF being the ONE JUDGED"
You also stated We " you and Alex" ALSO were ONCE DECEIVED.
You state this as if there is a condition to being saved when you say "INSTEAD OF being the ONE JUDGED" but you say all is going to be saved!
You are conscious of one being deceived. So what? according to you deception doesn't keep you out of Hell anyway. There's no need to believe anything, just live. Whether you kill or be killed, whether you worship and honor God or an Idol it makes no difference, we all suffer the same fate.
My question is WHY DOES YOU PREACH A MESSAGE THAT DOESNT MATTER?
And again, Earl no scriptures. We don't agree on scripture. just an explanation.
Wonderfully stated. I too commit myself today in the way you did. It is only with God's help and grace and power that we can do this. We are unable to do so on our own. That is why we come to Jesus first and then sanctification and determination to commit to God all of our ways comes because the Holy Spirit is now indwelling us and our ready help and creator of the new creation we now are in Jesus.
I believe that Jesus was using hyperbole to emphasize the gravity and deadly nature of sin. Is it better to enter heaven without a body part that drug one into sin or enter hell with all of our body still intact? I do not think he meant this to be done literally anymore than he meant we should lose our life to gain it by committing suicide or have someone else slay us. He was value of eternal life in Him and the need to trusty in Him to raise us from the dead if we indeed should loose our life. So we should not fear dying as an excuse to not follow God's lead in our life. This is the attitude the apostles and other martyrs had when being severely persecuted for their faith and endured torturous deaths for the sake of not renouncing Christ. We have a sense of self-preservation built into us by God. It is a good thing. But when it comes to a choice between committing grave sin to spare our own life, we are to refuse to do so, thus overriding the self-preservation/survival mode of our being and body.
Paul said, "I die daily". He was not saying he physically died and was resurrected each day, but that he daily put to death the sinful nature by the power of Christ residing in him by the Holy Spirit. I pray to have this attitude like Paul, to be so intent on living a godly life set apart from sin that I access in every circumstance the power over sin that is ours in Christ. But He also knows that we will fail even as we are being further sanctified by the Holy Spirit. That is why John says in 1 John 1:9 that God wis faithful and just and will forgive us when we repent and confess our sins. It is encouraged in Scripture to examine ourselves daily with the "lens" of the Holy Spirit to expose our sins. Therefore, we die daily as we put to death our sinful nature daily through the grace of God that brings both repentance and forgiveness to us. How wonderful is that!
Only with God's power can we cannot overcome sin in our life.
Luke 17:21 ....Behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ......Christ in you .....
1 John 5:11 This is the record, that God hath GIVEN TO US ETERNAL LIFE, and THIS LIFE is his SON (the Holy Ghost).
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (Christ in you, eternal LIFE) that WORKETH IN YOU (you are his body and he is the LIFE, not you, him) both TO WILL and TO DO his (the LIFE's) good pleasure.
John 14:6 ....I am truth and life ....
Christ himself, in the form of the Holy Ghost, THE SEED of God, is the Life in YOU, causing you HIS BODY to Do his good pleasure.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God (truth and life) doth not commit sin, for HIS SEED remaineth in him (you, his body), and he (you, his body) cannot sin, because he (you, his body) is born of God.
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come (it's HERE, Christ in you), thy will be done.
Peace has arrived.
Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit (Christ's LIFE) in you, and CAUSE you (my body) to walk in my statutes, and to keep my commandments and DO THEM.
Hebrews 4:10 For he (the body of Christ) that has entered into MY REST (God's Kingdom, Christ's Life)) has CEASED from his OWN WORKS .....
Thank the Lord that He is the one who delivered me from my mother's womb. Today being in the mother's womb is one of the most dangerous places to be. I praise God that the Supreme Court is going to rule on Roe v. Wade and settle this issue once and for all. I pray the Lord will give them the wisdom to make the correct judgment and leave it up to the States to settle the issue. God will hold us accountable if we do not hold them up in prayer for this most important ruling.
I suppose so, and I suppose also that it means that one should put forth more creativity and effort into being good.
It says, dont tell me you dont have options, it says I can give you at least one theoretical solution.
It says, if you have trouble not sinning, you might have a way to do it, it just might be hard.
It does perhaps call on one to make a greater sacrifice.
But consider the implications.
I have a body part which likes to sin.
Should I cut it off yes or no?
You have already made your answer a clear yes, because as you have said Hell is very real literal Hell.
Is that sane?
So I do have another alternative, I can cut off the things which enter my mind instead of cutting off my hands - that's sane, that's normal, I can feel comfortable explaining to people that I practice that.
But why call it cutting off your hands if you only meant cut off the things which enter my mind?
Amen Bro. Earl GBU well said amen....When folks LIMIT God they don't know it but they just cut him out Completely.....We cannot limit God....He has no limitations....He fed approx. 20,000 in the wilderness with a Childs lunch...The Child was symbolic of the H.G...That Child of Promise that God is gonna use to feed this whole world...That bread from heaven is Spirit and LIFE.
.....She brought forth a man Child that is gonna rule ALL NATIONS....Which is the H.G...The spirit of truth the gift of God....ok lemme go...luv ya
O God, today I begin an experiment in seeking peace. You have so much to say about peace in the Bible that I know it is your will for all men to be at peace.
In knowing Your will, O God, I am encouraged to press through all opposition, so that your will might be fulfilled in me.
Help me, I pray, to stop excusing my attitudes and actions. I alone am responsible for what I do today.
Help me to forget the errors of yesterday while I live to the fullest today, to Your glory. Help me not to be anxious about tomorrow but to be assured that by living today within the will of God, tomorrow shall be even better than today.
I do now commit myself to You Lord, trusting You for the needs of today. In Jesus' name.
This isolation and repetition of a closed system of gene transmission would produce characteristics specific to each isolated people groups that distinguished them from other isolated groups. This would lead to different "races". But in reality, humans are all one race with consistent variations of characteristics that distinguish them as only human, just like the variations in horses are present but they are all horses, though different breeds created either through natural genetic transmission between an isolated group or manipulated by man.
We are all humans created by God possessing the His image in a way that is not well explained in Scripture. Knowing that we all have this quality placed in us by God we can understand that we are different than the animals in abilities and in intrinsic value. This is why God emphasizes to us to value and protect human life and to avoid ending anyone's life through murder or gross negligence. He says this to Noah ( Genesis 9:6) and through Moses ( Exodus 20:13) and through Jesus ( Matthew 5:21-22).
Jesus even expands this commandment by not actual murder, but by hating another or dehumanizing another person.
We are to love our neighbor as ourselves and do good to others, avoiding harming them. We are to be compassionate and caring towards others regardless of their "looks", ethnicity, or status. We are to be welcoming of those that are not from our "area", treating them justly.
S Steven let me remind you of Luke 4 : 24...And 2 nd COR 3 : 6....Which teaches us we cannot worship God in the literal with our carnal minds etc ...The letter is a killer, we must worship God in the Spirit as the Spirt is life that new Covenant.
.....God is spirit and them that worship him must worship him in SPIRIT and truth for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
.....He does not seek carnally minded ppl to worship him...Remember when he was in Jerusalem on the feast day many believed in his name when they saw the miracles he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them b/c he knew ALL men and needed not that any should testify of man....Which is mans Adamic nature his Carnal mind etc...mans literal understanding of the Scripture.....He has made us unto our God able ministers of the New COVENANT. Not of the letter ( the literal )..The letter is a killer but the spirit giveth life.
.....In the O.T. it was literal Moses's face was glorious...As the law was the written word...But the O.Covenant was done away with as far as the law....The law was replaced with a New Covenant that is by the blood of the lamb.....John the bap. was of the tribe of Levi but he was preaching behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world....Not the blood of bulls and goats etc....The O.C...Now the living word is written in our hearts which is in the Spirit, the in Dwelling of the H.G. via the his good seed the living word....
Hi Larry, I found a good explanation on a site that I cannot remember at the moment concerning DNA in Adam and Eve.
Part 1
For a certain trait like physical characteristics each parent has a combination genes that can be transmitted. So, the example i found illustrated it this way:
If both Adam AND Eve had AaBb for a specific trait then these combinations can be transmitted when an egg is fertilized by sperm to form a new person with a DNA genetic makeup that is a combination of the two parents.
So the DNA transmitted for a specific gene can be:
AABB AABb AAbb AaBB AaBb aaBB aaBb aabb
With every child and any child, the combination can be one of these, with each child having a different combination or even the same. In this way, the dominant trait (capital A and B) usually prevails, but not always. So, with the myriad of genes, there can be much variety in characteristics of offspring in subsequent generations as they intermarry with one another.
Genes that would determine characteristics that would lead to a certain race would emerge among the population. So, the entire population would not be homogenous. After the flood, Noah and family must have also possessed combinations similar to Adam and Eve. And the process would have been repeated as it was for Adam and Eve's descendants through Seth. The building of the tower of Babel was used by God to scatter people outward from the Mesopotamian plains to inhabit other areas of the earth as they continued to migrate outwards from this origin over time.
As peoples settled in isolated areas and intermarried with one another, the DNA for specific genetic traits of these people would be repeated more often in their offspring than an anomalous DNA from their predecessors from Mesopotamia.
The comparision statements make clear the very real literal place of hell; and therefore nothing in this life is worth holding onto that will send us there. We need first of all to understand that God formed man perfect in all his ways; but our sin nature and outward sins come from the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Those things which enter the mind therefore would constitute the eye; and the hand all things which we take action on in order to gratify the sin nature. Job was able to restrain the sin of lust by a covenant with his eyes as it were not to look at a woman with lust apart from his wife. We also need to consider the paralytic who Christ healed after many years of suffering; he was told to sin no more lest something worse happened to him which no doubt would indicate physical; and subsequent spiritual death. He didn't have functioning body parts; nonetheless whatever sin caused the state in his particular instance perpetuated through his sinful soul; mind and heart.
In another sense; we are not supposed to not let our left hand know what our right hand is doing ( Matthew 6:3). Just as we are to have open hands; not closed fists when it comes to our possessions; our body is the Temple of the Lord in a sense; and we are to submit our members to His Lordship ( Romans 6:13 loosely translated). We were bought with a price; not of our own.
Nonetheless; true repentance although given by God who puts the desire in our heart to turn to serving and worshipping Him; our part is to die to self. This separates the true believer from those who are not producing fruit but for a time part of the church (as a useless member of the vine). So; mortifying the deeds of the flesh involves a continuing sanctification process which starts at the day of our salvation; and is continued until our death or the rapture. Even saved people grow at different rates; and are subject to falling into sin. He chastises all He loves ( Heb. 12:6); but not the goats.
It's not mine nor Alex's message, it's God's message.
Man doctrine says believe and go to heaven, do not believe and go to hell.
God GOSPEL is, I'M going to raise all the dead back to their flesh, here on EARTH, none of them KNOW ME, I need WORKERS for my vineyard. RIGHTEOUS JUDGES, to bring all the lost into my kingdom.
God's gospel is; Come to MY TRUTH, and be a worker, a judge; INSTEAD OF being the ONE JUDGED.
You CANNOT be a Judge, if you don't believe that Christ IS GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD.
Jesus trusted us "to pray for the peace of Jerusalem."
They are surrounded on all sides by their enemies. We are all seeing the End Times fulfilled in our lifetime. At this moment in time, we Gentiles are the Elect.
( Galatians 3). We are being given time, to be grafted into the Vine.
As prophesy unfolds, we are going to see them attacked. Now, American media has seen fit to exclude daily reporting of unfolding events in Israel. That's why I let people know of a born again Jewish reporter, that gives daily reports on what is happening in Israel. His name is Erick Stackelbeck & he's on YouTube. Subscribe so you can be informed of daily events in Jerusalem and all over Israel.
Unfortunately the Palestinians have flooded YouTube with their teachings of a leader named Mahdi, that will appear to them and lead them against all (non-Palestinian) infidels. They're getting ready for war. Take a brief look at some of their videos. The hatred is shocking.
I don't know why our current leaders in Wash DC are funding the Palestinians now, and de-funding Israel? Since USA's inception in colonial times, now our leaders are acting anti-Israel. We must elect leaders that actually know Bible Prophesy. Follow Erick Stakelbeck on his channel. We are living in confusing times.
It's getting more dangerous to tour the Holylands. Their are disasters, landslides and quakes in Palestinian regions. I see it on Two Preachers youtube site. They do outreach to India and Pakistan.
Everyone have a blessed holiday. Life jackets for the little ones :D
Jesus' long list of reversals in chapter 5 concludes with this one. His listeners had grown up under a partly correct teaching. God's Word does, indeed, command us to love our neighbor as our self ( Leviticus 19:18). However, it seems that the religious leaders were also teaching that it was permissible-possibly even mandatory-to hate one's enemies ( Matthew 5:43). Jesus again declares that God's intent for the righteousness of His people goes beyond selfishness and legalism. It implies something much more difficult and more like God Himself.
Instead of only acting in love towards neighbors, Jesus tells His disciples to love their enemies and even to pray for those who persecute them. Though few people live this out, in a meaningful way, the idea is deeply ingrained in western culture. Many modern people have heard this teaching, or variations on it, all our lives. That makes it easy to forget how radical the claim was, especially for those who live with daily threats from dire enemies, as did the first-century Israelites.
Christ does nothing to take the edge off this command, either. This is not described as emotional love, or affection. This kind of love is meant to be expressed in action. Offering prayers to God for people who are actively hurting you, especially for being associated with Christ, requires looking at the world in a completely different way. Jesus will escalate the difficulty of His command in the following verses.
It's hard in this current world of media, to practice this teaching of Jesus. We have to disconnect from worldliness and live as Jesus desired us to do. We have to embrace His Cross in order to do this. He gave himself for us, so that through His sacrifice; we can live as He asks of us. It's best to avoid senseless conflicts when you can. I think of what Jesus would do.__
ezekiel 43;18__-
all prophecy was fulfilled first is the 2 temple then the destruction of israel and the 2nd temple by the roman empire.in 70 ad.
rome they are even proud of destruction of the temple, because they knew that they are destroying the legacy of jesus christ and god almighty. jerusalem will be desolate so prophecy trough the people from the east to build the 3rd temple.that's why he said in verse 1i remember you, and verse 7 israel total destruction
god almighty is giving all this wisdom look my input rev.11
Concerning the gospel, you said Gods gospel is I'M going to raise all the dead back to their flesh, here on EARTH, none of them KNOW ME, I need WORKERS for my vineyard. RIGHTEOUS JUDGES, to bring all the lost into my kingdom.
You said God's gospel is Come to MY TRUTH, and be a worker, a judge; INSTEAD OF being the ONE JUDGED.
I see no mention of the cross, or the death and resurrection of Christ! INFACT NO MENTION OF JESUS AT ALL!
And you call what we believe "is man's doctrine"!!
Another thing, when you are studying, be honest. and ask yourself, did I learn this from man, or did God teach me.
It's hard to admit that our parents, and pastors, and Sunday school teachers could have taught us wrong.
But they unknowingly were taught wrong, it becomes a chain reaction.
Just like the religions of the world teach their children from the cradle, their beliefs; these are very hard to overcome.
God Bless You!
Jesus LITERALLY says the exact same thing here in Mark 16:16. "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
Note: Baptism is a result of one believing, that's why in the second part of that verse it says he who believe not shall be damned. It doesn't say who is not baptized shall be damned, or he believe not and is not baptized shall be damned. BELIEF HERE INITIATES EVERYTHING. (An argument for another day on baptism).
You call it deception if we believe what Jesus literally said! Who deceived us, Jesus?
I don't get your reasoning; you say we are deceived, but whether we believe or not we go to heaven. Show me anywhere in scripture where deception doesn't have consequences. What's the purpose on you working so hard on changing our beliefs when believing doesn't have no bearing on salvation?
You said I never answer your question about everyone going to heaven,
No one goes to heaven in the sense that the church believes.
Nowhere in the prophecies does it teach heaven is man's abode.
It teaches a Kingdom. This why the first children missed out. They were looking for the wrong kind of kingdom.
For sixty five years I believed exactly like you believe today.
I know, you know that the Holy Spirit works in each of as as HE sees fit.
Christ shut every door, and caused me to spend hundreds of hours studying mostly the Law and Prophets.
I come to understand that repentance has more to do with coming to truth than sins of the flesh; already forgiven.
I had to repent hundreds of times.
I though I had found truth; and then a scripture would contradict what I believed, I would repent of that belief.
Then over and over repenting, till the scriptures aligned together.
What make the difference in our beliefs is whether we are in the first resurrection of the second resurrection.
I can tell you from my experience in the Holy Spirit teaching me; until I repented of my belief in hell, and that all would be children of God, very little truth was revealed to me.
This took two years.
All the answer to Revelation are in God's word.
We are Brothers.
God Bless YOU!
What does Mark 9:43 mean?
Jesus' words about a vague sin committed by a concrete body part parallels how scholars at that time spoke of concrete sins committed by an abstract body part, such as the heart. In Jesus' manner of speaking, the emphasis is placed on the choice, the action, and the responsibility of the perpetrator. The "hand" is a metaphor for the way in which the heart may lead the person to do something sinful. [like don't send your 5yr old into the house to get daddy another beer]
The transition from Jesus' warning about causing others to sin in verse 42 is not as abrupt as it appears. Just as our heart may cause our hand to commit a sinful act, so it may cause a child or a younger Christian to commit a sinful act. Both require that we take serious steps to prevent our hearts from sinning.
The term translated as "hell" in English is literally tn geennan. This is a reference to the Valley of Hinnom, the dump outside of Jerusalem where animal carcasses and other waste was burned. During the times of the worst idolatry in Israel, parents sacrificed their children to Molech by placing them in glowing-hot metal statues ( Jeremiah 7:31; 19:5; 32:35). Good king Josiah tore down the altars and dedicated the valley to the burning of offal ( 2 Kings 23:10).
To "enter life" doesn't refer to being born. As "hell" means eternal punishment, "life" means eternal paradise for those who are saved by Christ. Jesus isn't giving a detailed description of eternity, here. Like in Matthew 5, He's illustrating how impossible it is to keep from sinning. Our resurrected bodies will not reflect the hardships we experienced in this life. Paul describes our new bodies as imperishable, glorified, and empowered ( 1 Corinthians 15:42-49)
The Word of God is full of those who had to make very difficult decisions to obey and follow God, no matter what. My wife reminded me that I should not 'judge' her since I sin every day too. I reminded her that's true, but the difference is the fact that my daily sins/transgressions vary in nature and frequency. The sins of those described in Corinthians and Thessalonians involve a lifestyle choice and a flagrant disregard for the things (commands, ordinances) of God. Those others in the class know of her situation and are concerned also. I'm trying to contact our Pastoral staff and find out what they recommend. Personally, I think this calls for tough love. Matthew 13 refers to Christ's parable of the wheat and tares. Maybe this is the one that leaves an 'out' for those uncomfortable with the topic of church discipline. May God help us and enlighten us by His Holy Spirit to learn the differences and proper utilization of them within the church itself.
Thanks for your reply.
Right now, were talking not sharing scripture. OK? We don't agree on scripture at all. I can respect a conversation with you if you desire to have it. Alex doesn't talk to me; he responds to me, but Hes actually is talking to the forum.
I believe you are responding after reading what I wrote to sister Gigi. "But I will read and perhaps engage if he or Earl gave an answer to what I've asked several times."
Again, here is what I'm asking.
"If a every sinner goes to heaven whether they believe or not, why is it that they work so hard to pitch their point of view. Why is it so important to them that their message is accepted when salvation is never at stake?
We believe what we preach is vital to salvation and one's salvation is at stake pending on one's belief.
Your belief is the complete opposite, (all will be saved no matter what.)
You stated. "God GOSPEL is, I'M going to raise all the dead back to their flesh, here on EARTH, none of them KNOW ME, I need WORKERS for my vineyard. RIGHTEOUS JUDGES, to bring all the lost into my kingdom.
God's gospel is Come to MY TRUTH, and be a worker, a judge; INSTEAD OF being the ONE JUDGED"
You also stated We " you and Alex" ALSO were ONCE DECEIVED.
You state this as if there is a condition to being saved when you say "INSTEAD OF being the ONE JUDGED" but you say all is going to be saved!
You are conscious of one being deceived. So what? according to you deception doesn't keep you out of Hell anyway. There's no need to believe anything, just live. Whether you kill or be killed, whether you worship and honor God or an Idol it makes no difference, we all suffer the same fate.
My question is WHY DOES YOU PREACH A MESSAGE THAT DOESNT MATTER?
And again, Earl no scriptures. We don't agree on scripture. just an explanation.
I'm standing by.
Wonderfully stated. I too commit myself today in the way you did. It is only with God's help and grace and power that we can do this. We are unable to do so on our own. That is why we come to Jesus first and then sanctification and determination to commit to God all of our ways comes because the Holy Spirit is now indwelling us and our ready help and creator of the new creation we now are in Jesus.
I believe that Jesus was using hyperbole to emphasize the gravity and deadly nature of sin. Is it better to enter heaven without a body part that drug one into sin or enter hell with all of our body still intact? I do not think he meant this to be done literally anymore than he meant we should lose our life to gain it by committing suicide or have someone else slay us. He was value of eternal life in Him and the need to trusty in Him to raise us from the dead if we indeed should loose our life. So we should not fear dying as an excuse to not follow God's lead in our life. This is the attitude the apostles and other martyrs had when being severely persecuted for their faith and endured torturous deaths for the sake of not renouncing Christ. We have a sense of self-preservation built into us by God. It is a good thing. But when it comes to a choice between committing grave sin to spare our own life, we are to refuse to do so, thus overriding the self-preservation/survival mode of our being and body.
Paul said, "I die daily". He was not saying he physically died and was resurrected each day, but that he daily put to death the sinful nature by the power of Christ residing in him by the Holy Spirit. I pray to have this attitude like Paul, to be so intent on living a godly life set apart from sin that I access in every circumstance the power over sin that is ours in Christ. But He also knows that we will fail even as we are being further sanctified by the Holy Spirit. That is why John says in 1 John 1:9 that God wis faithful and just and will forgive us when we repent and confess our sins. It is encouraged in Scripture to examine ourselves daily with the "lens" of the Holy Spirit to expose our sins. Therefore, we die daily as we put to death our sinful nature daily through the grace of God that brings both repentance and forgiveness to us. How wonderful is that!
Only with God's power can we cannot overcome sin in our life.
Those things you SEEK.
Knowing the WILL of God answers what YOU SEEK.
Matthew 6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy WILL BE DONE.
Luke 17:21 ....Behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ......Christ in you .....
1 John 5:11 This is the record, that God hath GIVEN TO US ETERNAL LIFE, and THIS LIFE is his SON (the Holy Ghost).
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (Christ in you, eternal LIFE) that WORKETH IN YOU (you are his body and he is the LIFE, not you, him) both TO WILL and TO DO his (the LIFE's) good pleasure.
John 14:6 ....I am truth and life ....
Christ himself, in the form of the Holy Ghost, THE SEED of God, is the Life in YOU, causing you HIS BODY to Do his good pleasure.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God (truth and life) doth not commit sin, for HIS SEED remaineth in him (you, his body), and he (you, his body) cannot sin, because he (you, his body) is born of God.
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come (it's HERE, Christ in you), thy will be done.
Peace has arrived.
Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit (Christ's LIFE) in you, and CAUSE you (my body) to walk in my statutes, and to keep my commandments and DO THEM.
Hebrews 4:10 For he (the body of Christ) that has entered into MY REST (God's Kingdom, Christ's Life)) has CEASED from his OWN WORKS .....
God Bless You.
It says, dont tell me you dont have options, it says I can give you at least one theoretical solution.
It says, if you have trouble not sinning, you might have a way to do it, it just might be hard.
It does perhaps call on one to make a greater sacrifice.
But consider the implications.
I have a body part which likes to sin.
Should I cut it off yes or no?
You have already made your answer a clear yes, because as you have said Hell is very real literal Hell.
Is that sane?
So I do have another alternative, I can cut off the things which enter my mind instead of cutting off my hands - that's sane, that's normal, I can feel comfortable explaining to people that I practice that.
But why call it cutting off your hands if you only meant cut off the things which enter my mind?
.....She brought forth a man Child that is gonna rule ALL NATIONS....Which is the H.G...The spirit of truth the gift of God....ok lemme go...luv ya
In knowing Your will, O God, I am encouraged to press through all opposition, so that your will might be fulfilled in me.
Help me, I pray, to stop excusing my attitudes and actions. I alone am responsible for what I do today.
Help me to forget the errors of yesterday while I live to the fullest today, to Your glory. Help me not to be anxious about tomorrow but to be assured that by living today within the will of God, tomorrow shall be even better than today.
I do now commit myself to You Lord, trusting You for the needs of today. In Jesus' name.
This isolation and repetition of a closed system of gene transmission would produce characteristics specific to each isolated people groups that distinguished them from other isolated groups. This would lead to different "races". But in reality, humans are all one race with consistent variations of characteristics that distinguish them as only human, just like the variations in horses are present but they are all horses, though different breeds created either through natural genetic transmission between an isolated group or manipulated by man.
We are all humans created by God possessing the His image in a way that is not well explained in Scripture. Knowing that we all have this quality placed in us by God we can understand that we are different than the animals in abilities and in intrinsic value. This is why God emphasizes to us to value and protect human life and to avoid ending anyone's life through murder or gross negligence. He says this to Noah ( Genesis 9:6) and through Moses ( Exodus 20:13) and through Jesus ( Matthew 5:21-22).
Jesus even expands this commandment by not actual murder, but by hating another or dehumanizing another person.
We are to love our neighbor as ourselves and do good to others, avoiding harming them. We are to be compassionate and caring towards others regardless of their "looks", ethnicity, or status. We are to be welcoming of those that are not from our "area", treating them justly.
.....God is spirit and them that worship him must worship him in SPIRIT and truth for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
.....He does not seek carnally minded ppl to worship him...Remember when he was in Jerusalem on the feast day many believed in his name when they saw the miracles he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them b/c he knew ALL men and needed not that any should testify of man....Which is mans Adamic nature his Carnal mind etc...mans literal understanding of the Scripture.....He has made us unto our God able ministers of the New COVENANT. Not of the letter ( the literal )..The letter is a killer but the spirit giveth life.
.....In the O.T. it was literal Moses's face was glorious...As the law was the written word...But the O.Covenant was done away with as far as the law....The law was replaced with a New Covenant that is by the blood of the lamb.....John the bap. was of the tribe of Levi but he was preaching behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world....Not the blood of bulls and goats etc....The O.C...Now the living word is written in our hearts which is in the Spirit, the in Dwelling of the H.G. via the his good seed the living word....
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For a certain trait like physical characteristics each parent has a combination genes that can be transmitted. So, the example i found illustrated it this way:
If both Adam AND Eve had AaBb for a specific trait then these combinations can be transmitted when an egg is fertilized by sperm to form a new person with a DNA genetic makeup that is a combination of the two parents.
So the DNA transmitted for a specific gene can be:
AABB AABb AAbb AaBB AaBb aaBB aaBb aabb
With every child and any child, the combination can be one of these, with each child having a different combination or even the same. In this way, the dominant trait (capital A and B) usually prevails, but not always. So, with the myriad of genes, there can be much variety in characteristics of offspring in subsequent generations as they intermarry with one another.
Genes that would determine characteristics that would lead to a certain race would emerge among the population. So, the entire population would not be homogenous. After the flood, Noah and family must have also possessed combinations similar to Adam and Eve. And the process would have been repeated as it was for Adam and Eve's descendants through Seth. The building of the tower of Babel was used by God to scatter people outward from the Mesopotamian plains to inhabit other areas of the earth as they continued to migrate outwards from this origin over time.
As peoples settled in isolated areas and intermarried with one another, the DNA for specific genetic traits of these people would be repeated more often in their offspring than an anomalous DNA from their predecessors from Mesopotamia.
In another sense; we are not supposed to not let our left hand know what our right hand is doing ( Matthew 6:3). Just as we are to have open hands; not closed fists when it comes to our possessions; our body is the Temple of the Lord in a sense; and we are to submit our members to His Lordship ( Romans 6:13 loosely translated). We were bought with a price; not of our own.
Nonetheless; true repentance although given by God who puts the desire in our heart to turn to serving and worshipping Him; our part is to die to self. This separates the true believer from those who are not producing fruit but for a time part of the church (as a useless member of the vine). So; mortifying the deeds of the flesh involves a continuing sanctification process which starts at the day of our salvation; and is continued until our death or the rapture. Even saved people grow at different rates; and are subject to falling into sin. He chastises all He loves ( Heb. 12:6); but not the goats.
and surely I could think of at least one other body part was worried about.
Others in my church might not be worried about their hands, because their hand is not causing
them to sin, but mine is.
First of all, I want to honor the Christian forum by first defending Jesus.
I believe Jesus has a sense of humor, I conclude based on what I have read,
that Jesus is merely teasing people who have asked him how they can stop sinning.
I understand there is also some very deep symbolism in all of this, as evidenced, by
Jesus talking about "offending" one of "these little ones". So, it is more than just a joke,
but it is humor in my opinion, I cant prove it, but I just dont see Jesus saying seriously to anyone
that they should literally remove parts of their body.
There is some question of what is meant by "offend". Other translations have said "if your hand causes you to sin",
rather than "if your hand offends you". There is surely some implication of hands, eyes, and potentially other
body parts, causing one to lust. If "offend" means something other than "causes you to sin", then in that case,
is that not exactly what the trans-gendered are doing - removing parts of their body which "offend" them?
In Matthew 19:12, Jesus seems to partially endorse the practice of becoming a eunuch.
All this is very scary to the young teenaged Christian such as I was at one time.
I recall also that it is not easy for Christian leaders to soothe such fear by dismissing it,
because, Jesus is saying this.
The joke I talked about is a great joke, it is very deep spiritually, I think we should reflect on this,
Jesus is really telling us not to hurt ourself, not to be hard on ourself. "Rabbi, how do I stop [shameful practice]".
"Cut your hand off".
Its so perfect. Its funny, it disarms the questioner of their fear, its deep, its totally flawless.
It's not mine nor Alex's message, it's God's message.
Man doctrine says believe and go to heaven, do not believe and go to hell.
God GOSPEL is, I'M going to raise all the dead back to their flesh, here on EARTH, none of them KNOW ME, I need WORKERS for my vineyard. RIGHTEOUS JUDGES, to bring all the lost into my kingdom.
God's gospel is; Come to MY TRUTH, and be a worker, a judge; INSTEAD OF being the ONE JUDGED.
You CANNOT be a Judge, if you don't believe that Christ IS GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD.
Amos 3:3 Can TWO walk together and NOT AGREE.
All the PROPHECIES are of a KINGDOM, not A PLACE.
Alex and I are NOT AGAINST YOU, we are FOR YOU.
We ALSO were ONCE DECEIVED.
God BLESS YOU!
They are surrounded on all sides by their enemies. We are all seeing the End Times fulfilled in our lifetime. At this moment in time, we Gentiles are the Elect.
( Galatians 3). We are being given time, to be grafted into the Vine.
As prophesy unfolds, we are going to see them attacked. Now, American media has seen fit to exclude daily reporting of unfolding events in Israel. That's why I let people know of a born again Jewish reporter, that gives daily reports on what is happening in Israel. His name is Erick Stackelbeck & he's on YouTube. Subscribe so you can be informed of daily events in Jerusalem and all over Israel.
Unfortunately the Palestinians have flooded YouTube with their teachings of a leader named Mahdi, that will appear to them and lead them against all (non-Palestinian) infidels. They're getting ready for war. Take a brief look at some of their videos. The hatred is shocking.
I don't know why our current leaders in Wash DC are funding the Palestinians now, and de-funding Israel? Since USA's inception in colonial times, now our leaders are acting anti-Israel. We must elect leaders that actually know Bible Prophesy. Follow Erick Stakelbeck on his channel. We are living in confusing times.
It's getting more dangerous to tour the Holylands. Their are disasters, landslides and quakes in Palestinian regions. I see it on Two Preachers youtube site. They do outreach to India and Pakistan.
Everyone have a blessed holiday. Life jackets for the little ones :D
Instead of only acting in love towards neighbors, Jesus tells His disciples to love their enemies and even to pray for those who persecute them. Though few people live this out, in a meaningful way, the idea is deeply ingrained in western culture. Many modern people have heard this teaching, or variations on it, all our lives. That makes it easy to forget how radical the claim was, especially for those who live with daily threats from dire enemies, as did the first-century Israelites.
Christ does nothing to take the edge off this command, either. This is not described as emotional love, or affection. This kind of love is meant to be expressed in action. Offering prayers to God for people who are actively hurting you, especially for being associated with Christ, requires looking at the world in a completely different way. Jesus will escalate the difficulty of His command in the following verses.
It's hard in this current world of media, to practice this teaching of Jesus. We have to disconnect from worldliness and live as Jesus desired us to do. We have to embrace His Cross in order to do this. He gave himself for us, so that through His sacrifice; we can live as He asks of us. It's best to avoid senseless conflicts when you can. I think of what Jesus would do.__