Bible Discussion PAGE 63

  • Joshua Tanner Hall on Acts 1
    i love the lord Jesus Christ my savor.
  • Richard - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Always enjoy reading your posts Mishael. Sharing truth about how you were in your life, and how the Lord changed you, shows a miracle. As many of us have great Testimonies of our lives. It really does help others through us sharing them. Showing how the Lord can use even the worst people. Save, and change, them/us to glorify His marvelous love for us all. God Bless you brother.
  • DCarden on Ephesians 2
    How does a Christian parent handle a "gay" child?
  • Lynn C Friend - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Hello Chris,

    Thank you for your interest in the comments you are hearing. I was very happy to hear that you have "come out from among them", the religious ones that keep the vast majority of folks stifled and in darkness.

    I went thru nearly every denomination known to mankind prior to finally ending all religion from this life relying upon God to teach me either by Himself within or using other members of the Body of the Christ to edify when times seemed rough.

    You are exactly right regarding what you are calling "sinless perfection".. That simply means one is now "righteous" in the eyes of God, in other words, sinfree.

    That does not mean that I will always be doing things other people like because the mast majority of folks that do not have this understanding will never like me no matter what I say or do. Trump is a good example of that.. No matter how much good he does, those that hate him will never ever give him one ounce of credit for anything good that he does.

    It is fine with me when you disagree with some of the words I say that you hear. I was the same way with others for a number of years. The important thing is, God is faithful to those that He knows have completely turned their lives over to Him

    The cross was far more than a payment for sins, as you are saying, in a nutshell.

    His resurrection made it possible for us to be resurrected from that old life while we are alive in the here and now in order to be servants of God and Jesus Christ.

    The vast majority of religious folks believe and are waiting for a future event to happen never understanding that future event is waiting for them at the cross..

    Have a great day Yours In Christ, Lynn
  • Lynn C Friend - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Hello Richard,

    You are mistaking what you see as prideful versus what I see as the power of Christ that dwells within me.

    This would be similar to Adam & Eve in the garden believing that from the moment their eyes were opened once eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, that their belief changed. Prior to eating they were never ashamed of being nude and never believed God saw anything wrong with their being nude. The moment they ate they saw themselves in a while different light and tried to hide from God believing he saw their nudity as evil. In other words they tried to project what they now were seeing as evil onto God and we know that is false.

    Same story still going on today. You see me as being prideful for the words that God has me speak, not understanding that via Christ in me God sees no sin. Why on earth would God send His Son to die the way He did unless He had a perfectly good plan for why He did it?

    Until you come to a full understanding of the fact that sin was not imputed in Adam's time because there was no Law for sin until the time of Moses and then get a full understanding of how it is that the Covenant Law God gave to Moses to give to the Israelites "defines" sin, you will never be able to fully understand the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    Being humble is knowing that God rules ALL His creation at all times. In other words, As a servant of God and Jesus Christ, I know, everything I say and do is exactly what God has me saying and doing. I rarely ever see anyone else with the belief that they are servants of God and Jesus Christ. The vast majority of folks I speak to are serving only themselves and that to me is sad

    Thank you for your response. Lynn
  • Rick Colombe on Genesis 41
    To Stanjett on Genesis 41 and your dream. Your comment is a year old in reference to your dream of winning 100 thousand dollars. Even so, I pray you did not follow through with giving your personal information to an entity that you could not prove. Sounds as though someone was attempting to scam you. We are to be wise in our walk with Jesus.
  • Stephen Botts - in Reply on Psalms 23:3
    In the Old Testament, when you see 'angel ( Angel) of the Lord', it is the preincarnate Christ, Jesus Himself. Unless otherwise named (as Gabriel in the book of Daniel).
  • Stephen Botts on Psalms 23
    When you are afraid, anxious, or uncertain, remember "The Lord is my Shepherd ".
  • Brother dan - in Reply on Mark 2:7
    It is very hard for us not to judge others. As Christians we should not "judge or condemn" anyone. This will be performed by Jesus at judgement.

    We should pray for all of our brothers and sisters in this life, including Catholics, and everyone else.

    Matthew 7:1

    "Judge not, that ye be not judged."

    God Bless.
  • Jayman - in Reply on Mark 2:7
    Not entirely true not all Catholics are completely connected to the deceitful aspects of the Catholic church there may be pegan doctrine but not all are unsavedif they have faith in Jesus Christ to which we should pray for them and not determine they are going to hell , that is God's place
  • Rose on Psalms 23
    Is it wrong to remarry if you still have a living spouse
  • Rose on Psalms 23
    What does the Bible say about remarriage
  • Donald bloomfield on Colossians 1:8
    Readings col, 1,8 your important of walking in the spirit as believer
  • Alex on Job 33:15
    in the bible what is the meaning of dreams about snakes and dogs
  • Adam - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Dear Minou,

    May God bless you and keep you through this challenge. Will pray for you to persevere through this valley and that you will also do your part in staying in the Word, reflecting on the positive blessings you have Philippians 4:8, and also realizing that you have freedom in Christ and gifts in order to help others. People always feel better about themselves when they help others feel better, so what have you done lately or what can you do to help others? Have you been putting on the armor of God and keeping your shield up to protect against the enemy, against negative thoughts? If it's smokey where you are how hard would it be to go where there's no smoke for a little while? What is the opportunity in this situation that maybe you haven't recognized yet?

    Paul was shipwrecked, in prison, tortured, starving, persecuted, but he was content and filled with joy. Why? Our external circumstances don't dictate our joy, but our mental attitude and our interpretation of things. Have you watched the video of the man with no arms and legs who is a motivational speaker who travels the world? These are just some of the positive things that are beneficial to reflect on like Philippians 4:8 says. You face challenges but you are not alone, you have God. Pray.

    God bless!
  • Mishael on Ephesians 2
    I'm gonna testify a little here. However it happened, I grew into adulthood with great knowledge of all manner of occult subjects. I had plans to grow and expand an internet business to sell horoscopes. People that opposed me, I would think of them as...dead. My doctor would ask me how it's going (all cheerful-like); I'd say I kinda feel like killing my spouse, and the kid too sometimes. I'm not kidding: he'd encourage me to take up basket weaving classes, as he wrote out unlimited refills of Valium for me. I'd swap my pills with friends pills and I was a drugged mess. However my craft at making charts was well received. It lasted a long time. I managed to make a Christian angry for doing charts on his kids. He asked an entire church to pray and fast for me, ONE day.

    My life began to unravel like an onion. Every shred of security I had was cruelly taken away. I did a big study on karma. I was now divorced. All I had was drugs and alcohol to keep me numb to what was happening to me. NEVER think that fasting and prayer do not accomplish anything.

    If you have child-like faith, You can change The direction of people's lives. Hate and anger at them accomplishes nothing. Believing in God to do something, WILL. If you push your plate aside and pray for that somebody; God is going to act on your Faith and behalf. He loves you!!

    If you can't pray a Catholic Church into rubble, you CAN ask for Catholics to come in here to find truth they are yearning to hear. Have you got some Bible you can teach them? Railing at people just drives them away.

    We are all just a lot of hot air if we don't have some Bible truth on the inside of us. When I see that spirit of superiority rear it's head...it reminds me of me. Full of hatred and hell; but full of great NEED.

    Pray, Fast, for 1 day: get ready to see a miracle!! Do I love Jesus? I want to be the rug HE rests His Holy feet upon.

    Goodnight.
  • Chris - in Reply on Matthew 27
    I don't think there will ever be a consensus of the exact dates of our Lord's Birth & Death as it's not revealed in Scripture. I think most arrive at their findings from considering the start of Herod's rule, age of baby boys at that time, the start of John the Baptist's ministry, Jesus' age (30) at His Baptism/ministry (approx.), the Passover timing which was strictly adhered to by the Jews, etc. Some have even looked closely to past lunar eclipses, comets, earthquakes, etc. to establish a timeline. Even with all this, no one has come up with clear dates that can be agreed upon, which of course may be for a Divine reason. Who knows!
  • Chris - in Reply on Numbers 6:24
    That passage was known as the Priestly Blessing. Today, it's sometimes spoken as a Benediction at the end of a Church service.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Betty, there are a couple of Scriptures that I know of, that direct a Christian's manner of speaking:

    Ephesians 4:29, "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers." Even though 'corrupt communication' could be perceived to be too general, in Greek it actually refers to 'rotten, worthless, useless, depraved'. I would think that using swear/bad words would fall under this meaning as speech that has no value in it that rather places the person in a baser standing. You could look at Ephesians 5:4 as well, for a similar warning which includes foolish talking & jesting. I would think 'jesting' here is not just humour but with lewdness sprinkled within.

    But to answer your question: "who decides which words are bad words and how do they decide, is it just somebody's opinion or is it scripture?" I think the criteria for that would be the source or history of the word used, its meaning & its manner of presentation, both in verbal expression & context. I certainly don't know the history of those words, nor do I wish to, but every now & then something comes up. For example, what some consider a 'mild bad word' such as the extended use of the word 'blood', has its origins in either the Cross or a woman's monthly cycle. But there are other words, such as used in the Bible for 'an illegitimate person' (Hebrews 12:8), which in itself is an appropriate English word, but when used today and against a person in an angry tone, amounts to swearing. I think you get what I'm saying without the need for further examples!

    But Colossians 4:6 says it well: "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man." I feel that this is the criterion we need to abide by: how do our words or manner of speaking affect the one hearing us - is it gentle, encouraging, uplifting, informative or 'spiced' up & devaluing us & our message?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Mark 2:7
    Matthew Chapter 12

    35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

    36 But I say unto you, That every IDLE WzORD that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

    37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Ecclesiasticus 26:11
    What the Commentary says of this verse.

    Wesley's Notes for Habakkuk 1:2

    1:1
    The burden - The prophet seems to speak of these grievous things, as a burden which he himself groaned under.

    1:4 Therefore - Because the wicked go on with impunity. The law - The whole law, moral, ceremonial, and judicial. Is slacked - Is slighted, and not observed. Go forth - From magistrates, judges, and public officers. Doth compass about - As it were besieges, with design to oppress and ruin.
  • Chris - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    True. Now if these men would humble themselves & come to the foot of the Cross thereby finding forgiveness & renewal of their minds & spirits, we might just see a peace & reconciliation through that wall broken down by Jesus. If men won't reason with with the Lord (Isaiah 1:18), they certainly won't reason with one another.
  • Ministry of the Holy Spirit - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Your heart is right before the Lord. Let him decide this. May the Holy Spirit surround you with Comfort.

    M.
  • Christians who sue other Christians on Genesis 1
    Comment:

    A whole day has been used up for this controversy. Sometimes you just have to leave it on the throne that Jesus is sitting on. He is the judge. We are to make righteous judgements and on the sinning after Grace has come: this is an issue to leave with Jesus. He will undertake. Live in the light you are given. Beware of teaching Jesus's lambs something else.

    2 Peter 2:1

    But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    1 Corinthians 11:19

    For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

    Galatians 5:20

    Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

    1 Timothy Chapter 1

    5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

    6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;

    7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

    8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

    1 Corinthians 14:33 - For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

    1 Corinthians 12:25

    That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.

    We are not to go to law with each other.

    Mishael
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Cheryl. Genesis 1:27 declares that God created man first & did so in His Own Image. That is, this new creation had all of God's attributes (holiness, love, joy, peace, etc.) yet someone who had flesh - unlike God, Who is Spirit. I'm not a Hebrew scholar by any means but from my research into this portion of the Bible, I see the following: The word for Mankind in Hebrew (the original writing of the Old Testament) is, Ha-Adam. So, the first man's name Adam, means 'mankind' (in general).

    Then in Genesis 2:22, God noticing that man was alone & wandering around aimlessly (2:18), decided to make another human to be his companion in life & a help to him (2:18). So from a part taken from Adam (his rib), God created another human being & Adam named her 'Woman'. In Hebrew, 'woman' is 'ishshah'.

    In Genesis 2:23, we read that Adam named this new creation, Woman, as she came out of man (i.e. made from his body). Now the Hebrew changes as it allows for not mankind, but for the dual genders. The Hebrew then for this man Adam becomes 'ish' and for 'out of man' is 'ishshah'. So we have 'ish' (man) & 'ishshah' (woman, or one coming out of man).

    Genesis 2:24: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." Adam could never fully enjoy or identify with the other of God's creation (animals) as they were unlike him. But once, Ishshah was made, he knew that this was special/different, one he could be at one with for procreation, companionship, care & dependency. Then in Genesis 3:20, Ish changes the name of Ishshah & now calls her 'Chavvah', which means 'Eve', because she would be the mother of all living.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 4:6
    Lois, the word 'shew' is simply an older spelling of 'show'. In respect of this Psalm, David asks those who were against him (men who loved being vain & lying = 'leasing') as to why they denigrated him (v 2, turning his glory into shame)? And these same useless men also further intimidate David by asking, "who can show David any good (or, help or encouragement)?"

    So David resorts only to His LORD as he knows that men may fail him but God never will, "God will raise His countenance (= God's appearance, facial expression giving him love & support) upon me" (v6). "Put gladness in my heart, give me rest in You, for You are my safety & security" (verses 7, 8).
  • Xavier hayes on Ecclesiasticus 26:11
    Habakkuk 1:2 O Lord how long shall i crie, and thou wilt not heare! euen cry out vnto thee of violence, and thou wilt not saue?
  • Chris - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Page 3.

    Lastly, I'm pained to take hold of how a believer, who can no longer commit sin, can justify his/her daily 'errors' before God. I'm not referring to the Laws of the Land or the Old Covenant Law - just focusing on our daily life. Can you in all honesty believe & claim that you cannot sin now because of the new life you have in Christ? Even if it may not be evident in your actions, does it ever give birth in the mind?

    I know when I sin: I might harbour a momentary feeling of anger, pride or resentment, a misplaced word to someone, a desire to retaliate when falsely accused, & a host of other sins that prove not only its existence in my life but how carnal I am when measured up to the holiness of the Father & the Son. Why would Paul even suggest that we put on the whole armour of God (Ephesians 6:11) if Satan could never touch us with sin (since we're sinless). The only sensible reason for Satan to attack us is if he can get victory over us - there's no point in causing us to trip up, if we're unable to.

    I'll just leave all this with you as I fear that what you believe on this matter is actually what you have learned from some other source, since no natural reading of the Word can cause us to conclude that the sin nature in a true believer ceases to exist when both the Bible & our lives clearly show otherwise.
  • Chris - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Page 2.

    However, you may add that Jesus' Sacrifice also made the sinner spotless & unable to commit sin again. Again, to state that at the moment of repentance & receiving God's forgiveness based on Calvary, a believer receives God's Spirit to indwell him, to be God's guarantee & to give him a new life/a new nature. So every believer has to have the Holy Spirit in him, but does God then remove the old sinful nature, which is the very reason for committing sin? I do not see that the goal of the Cross was to ever remove that old nature - it was only for the basis of God's pardon, man's spiritual renewal, & power to live a consecrated life in Christ. (Galatians 5:16,17 speaks of the ongoing war between the flesh (our old nature) & the Spirit (our new nature)).

    I believe that the New Nature by God's Spirit can never sin (1 John 3:9) - maybe you are focusing on this aspect - as it's impossible for God to do or provoke us to evil. But please bear in mind that the incoming of His Nature in us does not annihilate or dispose of the Old nature. For that reason, in every letter of the apostles, the message to believers was to crucify the flesh (Romans 8:13: "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live", is but one example). Paul is not speaking to the unsaved - he's speaking to believers in Christ but some are entertaining sin - yes, SIN, & need teaching & encouragement to turn away from sin & live (be led) by the Spirit of God (v14).
  • Chris - in Reply on Ephesians 2
    Page 1.

    Hi Lynn, your persistence in keeping up with both Adam's & my comments is commendable & I can see your sincere belief in what you state as the reason for Jesus' coming & crucifixion. Rather than rehashing everything you've written & also noting your other comments to Adam, I hope to take it from there. As well, I don't follow any particular Church teaching or custom; I took some time away from work (soon after I was saved) to just spend it with the Lord & His Word & to develop a deeper understanding on what was written. For that reason, I will never 'fit' into any Church, but then who does, but I value what is taught so that it may be further contemplated & of course the fellowship with other believers is necessary. So the basis of my comments are solely on the Word according to the Light given.

    You've stated that the salvation that Jesus has offered has meant that you have not only been cleansed from past sins but that His Life in you now keeps you spotless & indeed unable to sin. I hope I've understood you correctly. I have heard of such a position: it's called a 'sinless perfection' & is based on the understanding of Scriptures as you have given. Of course you know that I will disagree with such a position as that is simply untenable from the correct reading of Scripture & evidence from real life that supports it.

    Why did Jesus come to die for sinners? His Coming, in fulfilment of the prophecies that spoke of Him, was simply, in a nutshell, to make payment for sin. It was both a redemptive & a substitutionary Work of Love by the Father through His Son. Nothing more. The Cross provided the means, the only means, by which a sinner could ever hope to receive forgiveness & connecting back to his Creator. What a sinner could never do, Jesus fully accomplished at Calvary: and not by the keeping of a new Law, but only by Faith could the guilty come & receive pardon. I'm sure you know all that, but stated here, to lay the foundation.


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